worse than women with a low profile, but nothing, it was from this point that the fatal blow was dealt, like this, like this, if i had known that you were coming to poison cockroaches, i would have come in a limousine, you know, they have muslims, the child belongs to the father’s family, dad, but the fact that your real wife is in the car with her first husband, you know, well, this is exactly what the investigation has to establish, and in our yard the season is interrupted, on sunday , on the first one, why are there such legs, it’s already been 3 hours under the spotlights, here it’s plus 40, not less like it itches, you shouldn’t have put it on your naked body, are we royal or imperial attention? colleague, motor

, camera, the crowd has started, let's keep the penguin gait more fun, attention to the proguns, got ready, started, finally, one-on-one, the game, the extraordinary adventures of experts in the winter series of games, on sunday at the first. please sit down, will you ever be able to forgive me? anya,

anya, you are not to blame for anything. i myself should have left earlier,

this is tikhomirova, your offer is still valid, have you seen tikhomirova? she left and the locker did you release yours, the resident's? no, she left completely, refused her position, thank god, that would be strange, she is the boss.

good afternoon, good. and tikhomirova left an hour ago, and do you happen to know what time the moscow morning train leaves? i know, at 10:20, my niece lives in moscow, thank you, she promised for a long time, thank you.

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brush on the left, put two bags into one brush bag and cold water between the bags, okay? packages, anyone?

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there's a big game on the air, today we have a special analytical episode, and we will be talking with larry johnson, a former

famous cia analyst, then state department and for several years now a consultant who deals with international problems and especially terrorism, and today, of course, is an important day to talk about terrorism, because ibrahim raisi, the president of iran, is now in moscow. who is holding negotiations with president putin, and of course, an important topic of the negotiations is what is happening in gaza, the conflict between israel and hamas, and the topic of terrorism is more than relevant in this context, i welcome you to moscow. i know how busy you are, and we really appreciate it grateful that you found the opportunity , as far as i understand, you are leaving today , so, yes, unfortunately, because i

really liked moscow, a very beautiful city, to participate in a conference on a multipolar world, people from the usa and from russia , are trying to find some possibility of a peaceful solution, because the united states and russia should be friends. and it seemed to me that it was very well organized, and your performance was the first performance from the american country, and aroused great interest, but what i liked most what was amazing is that you had a very impressive group of journalists, bloggers , international relations experts who were not afraid to come to moscow,

maybe we are exaggerating here how difficult it is and what kind of negative reaction it might cause in the united states, well i haven’t returned to my place yet, so i don’t know what awaits me there, we’ll see, it will be interesting, i don’t know, maybe some interrogations, but in principle, this shouldn’t happen, we have the right to move freely , communicate with whom we want, but unfortunately, unlike russia, which is committed to friendly relations with the united states, the united states continues to insist that russia is the enemy, despite the fact that over the past 20 years, at least, between the united states and russia, say , there has been successful cooperation in the field of space. but the internal political situation now is such that the situation is very

toxic, so they are making an enemy out of russia, and all our own internal problems are being blamed on russia. the situation is toxic and, in general, the climate for conversation is poisoned. i remember how in 2002-2003, when the american invasion was being prepared, you repeatedly took part in discussions at the center for national interests, where i then worked, and you also expressed opinions that ran counter to the administration’s line and definitely to the invasion of iraq. the overthrow of saddam hussein, but i had the feeling that then such opinions could be expressed, well, in general, without fear of persecution, but what about today? no, of course, there was some kind of reaction one way or another, and then,

i spoke on television, but now, of course , everything is much worse, now people are truly afraid of criminal prosecution, some kind of threat, some kind of punishment, i have already said several times that i am an elderly person, i remember how it was in the days cold war, when it was soviet. when we saw the intimidation that took place in the soviet union, i am an old man, i remember all this, and now i see that the united states is turning into the soviet union before our eyes, political dissidents are being arrested, people are being thrown into prison, they don't allow lawyers to see them, they keep them in solitary confinement, people are arrested for telling jokes, they make fun of people like hillary clinton, that's why people

are put in prison, conservative websites are closed because the authorities don't like what they say these people, that is, in essence, russia is now a freer country than the united states, and you yourself know all this very well, although you know more than me, because i have not been to the united states. since the end of october last year, and when i was in the united states, i still worked until the last day, in the center of national interests, and of course , there was pressure on the center, and of course, some foundations were no longer ready to support the center, and of course, there were big problems with the appearance, let’s say it was all on television, but those very serious things, arrests, interrogations that you talked about, neither i nor my colleagues

had encountered this yet, but i... we can say that america is turning into a police state, remember, during the communist revolution, they persecuted the russian orthodox church, planted priests in prison, now in america it’s... the same thing: the fbi infiltrates its agents into the catholic church and persecutes the catholic church simply because these people are catholics, they say that they are carrying out subversive activities, but they are simply practicing their religion , they just say that they believe in jesus christ, in family

values, so the situation is very unpleasant, i'll change the topic a little, i think it's now widely... admitted that the ukrainian offensive was not successful, and that about this, ukraine , and her patrons, in in the united states, in europe, we need to think about some new tactics, about some new approaches to this war, but it seems to me that if we are talking about the governments of nato countries, then: in general, maybe with the exception of hungary and slovakia, almost no one said, we tried to win, it’s not working, let’s try to give diplomacy a chance, look for negotiated solutions, i have a feeling that the ukrainian defeat,

the defeat of the ukrainian offensive, did not lead to readiness for negotiations. and at least for now it has led, on the one hand, to tightening, on the other hand the other is to search for some new methods to fight russia. it is very important that the russian authorities and the russian people understand that the west cannot be trusted. it’s impossible , we saw what happened with the minsk-1sk and minsk-2 agreements, it was all used simply as an excuse to delay time, president putin believed the west, thought that these people could be trusted, but now it turns out that they cannot be trusted, remember, a year ago, certain progress was achieved

in negotiations between russia and ukraine and the united states, and specifically, i also had a hand in this, they disrupted the negotiations, they called on the ukrainians to abandon the negotiations and continue fighting, because the west sincerely believed that they could use the ukrainian army in their own interests, despite the fact that the ukrainian army. is not a nato army, but in fact ukraine was already a member of nato, and nato could use ukraine for its own purposes, in its own interests, this is essentially the second army in nato, after the us army and after turkey, the us, turkey, then ukraine, in numbers, so they hoped that

with the help of military pressure they could break russia, make sure putin is president. left his post, they wanted to divide russia into five separate states, they really thought so, because russia has a lot of natural resources, and the west, it’s like a soroncha, it devours everything in its path, they don’t think about people, and look what this happened, all this led to the death of 500,000 ukrainians, and i don’t know how many wounded, probably the total loss is 1,200,000 somewhere. but the west doesn’t care, they perceive ukrainians as meat. therefore, there is now talk about possible

negotiations, but this is all again, this is all an excuse to stall for time, this reminds me of the words of muhammad ali, he said that when you fight, you cannot spare the enemy, you need to fight until victory. and in the west. in my opinion, they confuse human qualities , weakness of compassion, they have confused these concepts with each other before, they do not understand russia, in my opinion, you said a very important thing, that the goal of american policy is not just to defeat russia, but to collapse russia into to pieces, and there are enough people in moscow, among journalists , political experts, who have the same

suspicion, but on the other hand, well, there is no certainty, this is a conscious goal of american policy, or they just think, well, we will achieve victory, and then whatever happens , at least consciously, look at the history of american foreign policy over the last 30 years, why nixon opened up to china agreed to the one china policy, because he wanted to drive a wedge between russia and china. said: we need to make sure that russia and china never united, never played together. then what happened in the eighties? the united states

supplied weapons to iran, provided weapons and technical assistance to iraq, and simultaneously to both sides of the conflict. why did they do this? because in this way they tried to weaken russia. it was a cynical policy. it didn’t matter what would happen to ordinary people in iran and iraq, all this was aimed at undermining the soviet union, so these kinds of techniques are used by the west constantly, completely recently we saw how the west fueled the military conflict in yemen, supporting the regime in the fight against the houthis, because they wanted to drive a wedge between saudi arabia and iran. so that this conflict continues as long as possible, thereby undermining russia's influence in the middle east. look at the course of events,

what is happening between china and russia, they have formed the alliance that the west was so afraid of, which the americans have always been afraid of. diplomatic work began to overcome this conflict, and this undermined foundations of american middle east policy. america is like a ship that lost its hull during the assault, the fact that the united states, especially in relation to china and russia, was guided by the principle of divide and conquer, it seems to me that this is obvious, and the architects of this policy, nixon and kissinger, did not hide their goals, but you said, and not only you, lately we have been hearing more and more authority... biden consciously sets the goals of american foreign policy.

russia is split into component parts. you we heard this from someone from the administration. how did you come to this conclusion? well, on the one hand, i read some materials. don’t communicate, i’m not a handshake person for them, i talk, they wouldn’t talk to me , but i read some materials, watch their speeches, and i see that they have no desire to seriously negotiate, no desire to stop the war in ukraine they don’t, yet they don’t consider themselves guilty of this whole situation, they don’t admit that it was they... who started it all, they believe that they have every right to do whatever they want with nato's help.

now, if the united states, before the fsa began, said: “we will stop the expansion of nato, but they didn’t do this, on the contrary, they are expanding nato all the time. now finland and sweden have been added to this alliance. all this is being done for this to continue to put pressure on russia. all this because they say that russia is an empire that wants to take over. i knew him too, frankly speaking, he was not a friend of russia, frankly speaking, he was very believed in the expansion of nato, nevertheless, in the last years of his life, he increasingly and publicly said that ukraine had no place in nato, that ukraine’s admission to nato would be

unacceptable. to russia, will end in a military conflict, and ukraine will be the worst from this, that is, the biden administration is going even further than brzyzinski recommended, why are they doing this, what motivates them? partly, it seems to me, this is explained by economic reasons. remember, at the beginning of boris yeltsen’s presidency, after the collapse of the soviet union. talked about what could maybe russia will join nato, but then this idea was rejected, maybe it was 1999 or 2000, vladimir putin also said then: listen, maybe we should join nato then? why doesn't the west want russia to join nato, because if russia joins nato, then nato will lose the reason for its existence, why does nato exist? in my opinion, this is in order

to. justify the work of the military-industrial complex, which receives profits due to the fact that they build expensive planes, expensive tanks, which then they break down, artillery , which is impossible to maintain in a real war, but private companies profit from this, and of course, generals receive new stars, so russia is like dartvader, a villain from star wars, there needs to be some kind of dartvader, then you can justify building all these crazy spaceships to fight this evil empire, so it seems to me that there are economic reasons, because, let's say, in the year ninety, america's military budget was much much smaller than it is now, it

has grown insanely. and now the martin company , for example, has created a new bomber, each such aircraft is being built for an astronomical amount, almost a billion dollars, this is madness, this is madness, the united states found itself in the grip of this madness, how else can i describe this situation, and reagan, frankly speaking, was a convinced anti-communist, but at the same time, as his assistant describes it... responsible in the white house for russia, for the soviet union, jack metlock, there was no task to change the political system in the soviet union, that is, we seem to have administration in washington, which goes further than ronald reagan in its hostility to russia, and here’s the paradox.

you remember, i remember, reagan called the soviet union a godless country, and now it turns out that russia is one of the most religious countries in the world, and yet, nevertheless, and russia demonstrates its readiness for the peaceful coexistence of different religions within russia, russia is a model, an example of what could be done in the usa, because in the usa there are constantly conflicts on religious grounds, during of the cold war they said that the problem was with the soviet union, that it had a communist ideology that seemed to want to change the whole world, then they said that the soviet union was against religion, then later they said that the soviet union was enslaving the countries of eastern

europe. well, then they said that the soviet union is a country that oppresses jews and encourages anti-semitism, there is nothing more. no one even blames russia for this anymore, but why then is the biden administration so hostile towards russia, is it just the economy or something else? no, not only economics, it all really started with hillary clinton. john podesta, who was managing her campaign, corresponded with a political consultant. who helped build the company , they talked in this correspondence about the need to make an enemy out of russia, in order to thus undermine trump’s position, and suddenly trump won the election, then

it will be possible to blame everything on russia, that this russia interfered in the american elections made trump president, even if we don’t take into account all these hypocritical ones now. that's just it a clear manifestation of what is happening in the usa, the organization in which i used to work, the cia, is also involved in such matters, you can ask ordinary people, in iran, in guatemala, in honduras, in italy, in greece, about how the usa constantly interfere in elections in other countries, but here. you can blame everything on russia , you can explain everything by russian intervention, if a person is an alcoholic or a drug addict, very often

instead of saying, yes, it’s all my fault, they begin to blame everything on others, they say: it’s because you i became a drug addict, because of you i became an alcoholic, so the usa now behaves exactly the same way, they blame everything on others instead... to admit their responsibility and say that yes, russia has changed, russia has become a different country, over the past 20 years, russia has come a very long way, it was an economically weak country in the nineties, but now it is a country with excellent infrastructure, clean streets, people have good jobs, people earn good money. this is a clear example of what can happen to a country when a country invests, the government invests in people , but the usa is the opposite, they spent trillions of dollars on afghanistan, on iraq, killed a lot

of people, as a result everything only got worse, in these countries, in our country there is continuous drug addiction, crime, unemployment, homeless people on the streets , this is not a very good example. a very important question is how to get out of this situation? if there are any opportunities to get out of this situation, through negotiations, compromises, or the only, only option to end this conflict, it is on the battlefield. i'm afraid, i'm afraid that unfortunately but the united states needs to come to its senses, this is the only possibility, and for this it is necessary for ukraine to suffer a complete defeat, because a complete defeat of ukraine will be a complete defeat for nato, it will weaken nato, but at the same time, at the same time

, i think that the russian orthodox church can play a very big role in this matter, american christians and russian christians are brothers and sisters, that we believe in one god, that we have a common faith, we need to find this common faith, feel for it and so way to build bridges, here it seems to me opportunities for cooperation are opening up, because america and russia actually have. what is common, in addition to joint programs in space, the fight against terrorism, we can agree here, the joint fight against drugs, the united states and russia could work together in this area, there are many

areas where we could cooperate, if we focus on these areas of potential cooperation, but of course, you need to understand that russia will defend its interests and defend itself. and will not believe the unfounded promises of the west. it was, let's say, not a very optimistic conversation, but i think you made your position very clear. and very, well, it seems to me, they specifically explained why russia has no other choice but victory in this case, and i wish you a good road home, so that you don’t have any problems anywhere, take care of yourself, once again thank you for coming to moscow, and of course for coming to us, thank you, thank you. thank you, we’re leaving for advertising,

we’ll be back in just a few minutes, dialogue with the whole country, dialogue with everyone, results of the year with vladimir putin on december 14 at 12:00 moscow time. old barrel cognac is a stellar product of the group, and the owner of the house went to work, so he’s on vacation, yeah, on vacation at his own expense, and you have everything at his expense, at his expense they receive titles, write out bonuses, hang orders for themselves , i wish you good health, apple, gru officer, wandering around the gardens, and i got caught. so those boys were suspended for training on vacation, on the day of heroes

of the fatherland, badober fortress, on saturday first, my wife tells me that i don’t love her, because i ride in these commanders, but he is the opposite, i love her so much that she alone is not enough for me, i love the grass under her feet, i love the sky on... her head , to the very stars , that’s why i’m here, god knows, where i’m protecting the world in which she’s the main one, when i’m scared, i think about her, i’m you, how much do you love your daughter, there’s a big game on the air, we’ll now have a conversation with vladimir alekseevichov, first deputy chairman of the committee of the soviet federation on defense and security, and before that, at

for many years, the russian ambassador to the european union, you have a lot of experience in europe, and you worked constructively, you repeatedly visited channel one and talked about this, what happened, how all these relations of ours fell apart, well, you know, this happened. .. if we say, as many people do today, they are trying to link this with the start of a special military operation in ukraine, and in general with the ukrainian crisis, i would say that the ukrainian crisis rather became a catalyst for this process, and not, not the root cause, and not.. .new current alas

negative trends in our relations with the collective west, including europe. this process, at first, took place , as they say, quietly, not too noticeably for the general public, but gradually, i would say that at some stage, such... about relations with the european union, was replaced, with the same gradual deterioration. and when this happened, you know, i would, of course, i will not try to determine the exact date, very approximately, well, it approximately happened somewhere in the year twelve to thirty, why? whole a number of reasons, obviously, what had been achieved in our

relations began to worry, some political forces, part of the political elite in european countries, well, obviously, the overseas, so to speak, older brother, the united states of america, this process also went downward until the collapse associated with the events of the fourteenth year, and when - as a result of the bloody coup d'etat in ukraine, the current forces, openly pro-nazi, came to power, and even more so now, and when on the territory - this in this

parts of europe are fighting as part of a special military operation, so this is the dynamic. although history , if you look, goes far back in history, even several centuries, i would say, russia has always been perceived in europe, but as a kind of challenge, by the very fact of its existence, by its enormity, as some wrote back in the 19th century of what we would call today: political analysts, abundance of natural resources, in a sense, unpredictability for the western way of thinking, because the image, thoughts, traditions, culture of russian

society, it in many ways did not coincide with the western version, no less, in general, russia managed to get along in europe, there was even once such a term as a concert of the great powers, but then i won’t reproduce the whole story now , of course, but russia probably was not an easy partner for its counterparties, just like those with whom... before returning to moscow last year , i dealt in brussels and other capitals, the european union was never an easy partner for my country. how he was not an easy partner for others both for china and for japan for the same united states. well, a few weeks

ago , your colleague ambassador anatoly anton was on this program via video from washington. from my point of view, the person is reasonable , constructively minded, and those who came to america clearly want to improve relations, and he is not allowed to work, the embassy is not allowed to work, journalists who want to come and cover america from russia are prevented from working, experts are no longer invited, that is most" united have several topics that interest the biden administration, but in general it is very difficult to develop them effectively in a situation of such total hostility towards russia, from your point of view, there is some

difference here between the united states and europe. somewhat different dynamics, we had a truly progressive development of cooperation, a strategic partnership, we rightfully called and used this term, we held two summits a year, and russia was the only country with which the european union applied this practice, and we had dialogues there, sectoral ones. fifteen and so on, but what i already drew attention to when comparing our relations with europe, with the european union and our relations with the united states, with europe we were connected by a much stronger fabric of trade and economic cooperation, in those

best years, as they say, the volume of trade turnover with the european union exceeded ours. and trade turnover with the united states is 11-12 times higher, we traded with the eu at the level of a billion euros per day, this is a very serious amount, this is a serious amount, and the european union was the largest our trading partner and the largest source of direct investment, and this obviously did not please the united states. and just as they naturally did not like the level of long-term cooperation that took place in the energy sector, in transport, in others, i will not talk in detail about all those pipelines that connected parts

of our common continent, this is a well- known story, so the same as their future fate, and so, as for my work, i wish, of course, success to my friend anatoly, by the way, a little earlier moment when he went as ambassador to washington, he was included by the european union in the sanctions stop list, and then at some point the leadership of the european union even said, what are you doing, man, the man went as ambassador to the united states, he... american the government is a maniac and he works there, well, the answer, i would say, i got the jesuits, but

what do they say, mr. ambassador, didn’t you always tell us that russia is interested in the european union making independent decisions, so this is the height of hypocrisy, this up hypocrisy, let me ask you slightly different thing. look, antonov - he came to fulfill his duties, yes, in general, it seems strange to me to put a professional diplomat under sanctions for this, but at least here i can understand some logic, he is a high-ranking official , he represents politics , which the european union does not accept, they wanted to show theirs. so i’m trying to understand why

thousands of people who do not work in government bodies, who do not occupy any significant positions, who do not belong to the armed forces, they don’t even sit in television studios, and... they say some critical things about the european union and ukraine, some people who, for example, in the export community, i ’m looking at who was included in the lists, included people who are not even truly ready, well, so to speak, in full force , to support the special operation, they calmly include lists, relatives are included in lists, ex-wives are included in lists, adult children who have no longer lived with their parents or in any way with them unrelated, include lists, in

what is the purpose of this? well, you know, firstly, i think there are probably several reasons, one of them is the frank, obvious lack of professionalism of those officials who compile these lists, if they are written on the basis of a telephone directory, or... as in the first stage forbes magazine, when it came to businessmen, otherwise don’t expect anything good, as they say, by the way, i looked at those rare processes when people filed appeals to the court of the european union, hoping that they could... prove that they were groundless included in these lists, well the situation was a rare, very rare

exception, that is, the real chance of falling out of this list is to die, in other cases, well, literally in a few, it was a presumption of guilt, a presumption of guilt , and moreover, when the person presented serious evidence in his favor, what did the european union do? he simply retroactively, as is done in well-known street games, retroactively changed the wording on the basis of which this person was included in the sanctions list. this is what the soviet courts were accused of when they tried dissidents. yes, and i i'll tell you what... today's west has adopted the worst of the soviet historical experience. i'll express it.

i’ll make a hypothesis, i may be too much, i’m trying to find logic where there may not be any, but i got the feeling that maybe there is logic in these total sanctions, logic, logic of a terrorist, logic to intimidate, show to a large number people, a mass of people who are... not only not guilty of anything, not suspected of anything, but they want to show them that as long as the current the leadership of russia, as long as the current political course of russia exists, not only the authorities will be punished, but they will also be punished, which is a collective responsibility, a collective guilt of the significant majority

of the population of russia, which. stops politics, does not stop politics , which the european union does not accept, and the logic is of course somewhat strange, because they simultaneously say that russia is an authoritarian country, that they do not inspire confidence in the russian elections, but if so, then why should ordinary people be for that punished, but i have a feeling that this is an attempt to terrorize and destabilize, where am i wrong? but i think that you are absolutely right, at the first stage, i would say, the first few years there, the first few packages of sanctions, such a formulation was always carried out, or rather, it framed these packages of sanctions, that they were directed against the leadership of russia, against the russian

economy, russian military machine and so on. but against the russian financial system, which finances the war machine, but this is not directed against ordinary people, this formulation gradually disappeared , now they don’t say that anymore, on the contrary, now the thesis about collective responsibility, collective guilt has come to the fore, what role did the ardent preacher of this approach, mr. zelsky, play here, i... i can only guess when they tried to to isolate, i don’t see that so far russia has had big breakthroughs in relations with western countries, although there are of course exceptions, hungary, now slovakia, a little with greece, but it

seems to me that a very big breakthrough has arisen. in russia's relations with what we call now with the new world majority, or with the global south. and yesterday, president putin made, it seems to me, a very successful trip to the united arab emirates in saudi arabia, and it was announced that the saudi crown prince, who is actually the head of state. that he accepted the invitation to visit moscow, and today iranian president ibrahim raissi is in moscow, and of course, russia had relations with iran, even when it had normal relations with the west, but frankly speaking, relations with tahran received a new impetus, as a result, if you like, of the separation of the west

and russia, now ibrahim raisi is in moscow. and let’s listen to what president putin said, i accept it, dear mr. president, dear friends, i’m very glad to see you in moscow, yesterday you know, i was in the neighboring region, i flew directly into the territory of your country, i wanted to land directly in tehran to meet , but they tell me that he is already the president of the assembly. flies to moscow, our relations are developing very well, please give your best regards wishes, thanks to his support, we have gained good momentum over the past year, last year trade turnover increased by 20%, achieved good results, somewhere over 5 billion we reached 5 billion. from october 4 to october 7 we

had an exhibition in moscow. the iranian exhibition, and we ourselves were surprised at the interest it aroused among the russian part; colleagues from the government say that there was a crowd of people wanting to visit, look, and talk. with colleagues there was a lot in the field of education, we have a significant number of iranian students studying, in general work is going on quite actively , in almost all directions, and of course, it is very important for us to exchange views on the situation in the region, especially with regard to the situation in palestine, of course, iran and russia do not have this - a situation of complete coincidence of positions, iran supported hamas, russia showed, as it seems to me, much more, greater caution in relations with hamas, but now in the conditions of, well

, if you like, that very inhumanistic military operation that israel is conducting in gaza, not only against hamas, but also against civilian population. do you think there is an opportunity for russia to simultaneously strengthen relations with iran, with arab countries, such as saudi arabia , which treat iran, well, let’s say with a certain distrust, i think that russia as a country is, as it were, deployed in one direction. in no other and this is the tradition of russia, but i think that russia, and russia itself, is a country that maintains normal

relations with all these countries, with arab countries, with almost all of them, with iran, with others, with those whom indeed, today they call it the world majority, i cannot say that i... would agree with the characterization of it as new, this is the world majority that has always existed, another thing is that it was in a largely oppressed state for hundreds of years, they did not manifest themselves, they did not manifest themselves as a single whole , that’s right, they have their own contradictions that have not gone away, and which will still manifest themselves on which the west will play, but nevertheless in today’s world, which is being formed, and multipolar world, which makes its way through , so to speak, layers of the past, through those, uh, through those

obstacles that were associated with - centuries-old colonialism and other a - elements of that old world in which today the collective west turns out to be a minority, therefore russia as a converted country to the west to the east, so i personally do not share the formula that russia is turning to the east, no, russia is turning around and becoming, well, what the symbol of what is the state coat of arms, well, if russia does not turn, unfolds, i agree with you here, the question immediately arises, what are the chances from your point of view that russia will be able

to somehow restore relations with europe. just before you on this program, we had a guest larry johnson, well-known in the united states, a military analyst, terrorism analyst, he was once a cia analyst, worked in the state department, i met him 20 years ago, he spoke then , against the american military operation in iraq, but then there were slightly different times, and it was possible to take such a position without having all the dogs put on you, and so mr. johnson said: just recently, at this program, he said that he did not see the possibility of, uh, a russian agreement with the united states on ukraine. he said

that, from his point of view, they would either refuse to negotiate or simply be deceived. and he said the only chance he sees is to finish this.