kaslab hockey is not football, my name is denis kazansky, are we playing football or hockey today? well, hockey attracts me, because i am still involved in hockey, i am the chairman of the council of veterans of the spartak hockey club, we are quite active in our beta, well, about 40 people, probably spartak veterans who played once. we have our own box at spartak hockey matches, it’s beautiful, our own box, the table is always set, besides this i’m also the chairman of the coaching council of the russian hockey federation, naturally i should be i am aware of hockey affairs, but i love football very much, i love it very much and... i still switch

to football, and not to hockey. well, here, denis , it’s hard to argue here, after all , despite the fact that ours, our domestic hockey has absolutely wonderful successes in the international arena, multiple olympic, world champions there and so on, football still remains the number one sport one, let's talk about these players, dmitry sychev.

boris sanovich, you once played on, well, actually, you played a lot of matches on in the open air of international competitions , and you played against the swedes when there was an audience of 50,000 people watching you, what kind of matches were they, back in the early sixties, the world championships were held in open areas, here is my first world championship in the sixty-first year - in two cities, lausanne and geneva - this is switzerland, i was in lausanne. an outdoor skating rink,

an indoor one in geneva, and we are very, and we had to play in lasagna and in geneva, and i will say that the transition from fresh air to indoors was very difficult, and if my memory serves me right, after this world championship, the international federation decided that they must... to hold the world championships , the skating rinks must be closed, in the year sixty-three - i remember now, we came to the world championships in sweden to stockholm, and i played there at the johannes hove, i played there in the open air, so we come to the world cup, the stadium is blocked, this would be

a championship match, the championship of the soviet union and the regular season, four periods of 15 minutes.

i think that this is an important person, first of all, a person who carries some ideas other than sports ones. some other uh who has good relationships with partners, who maybe he himself should also be a decent, good player, to put it mildly, yes, to put it mildly, yes, not that we should take an example from him there and so on, but so that he doesn’t spoil the picture, leonid ilyevich brezhnev, we all know very well that the leader of the soviet union loved hockey very much. but tell me, who did he root for, spartak or cska? for csk? behind cska, of course, but i had one unique case from this point of view, cska plays with the voskresensk chemist in moscow, and the voskresensk chemist just can’t leave

izhevsk, can’t fly out, the weather is terrible there and can’t fly out. calls in the morning this way and that, i say, that’s it, i ’ll be there in the evening, an hour and a half passes, and it continues this, wait, wait, another hour or three passes, the call again, we can’t fly out, i say, no, i can’t match cancel, what are the prospects there, well, it seems like they promised something there, so i say, okay, okay, i’ve already left for the stadium, suddenly this guy comes up to me - all shaved, combed, he took me and hugged me a little, boris aleksanovich, why are you worried, now they’re already coming

here, accompanied by me, that is under control - it was , well, not, probably not at the government, in the relevant units there - some kind of control - of the soviet union, so that he would not be late for the hockey match, indeed the chemist came to the game, the game took place and leonit ilyevich i saw the most scandalous match in the history of our championship, when tarasov took the team away, this also happened before brezhnev’s eyes, what consequences did it have in a general sporting sense, in a general sporting sense there were a lot of condemnations. there was quite a lot of behavior from the team, i don’t remember, well, probably the army community, of course, supported tarasov,

how could this be so ugly, not just refereeing, this is such an ugly case, i am deeply convinced that they could not have made a mistake, no referee when determining when to change goals, you remember to changed goals in the third period , but then this rule was canceled, well, let’s explain why this was, because then they played in the open air even before they moved it to the palaces, and so that there were equal conditions, then in the middle during the third period the whistle blew and the teams changed goals. absolutely right , in the air, the wind is in one direction, the wind is in the other, something else there, well, indoors all this was canceled, it was overgrown with myths, this myth was in the big cinema, legend number 17, about how the team leaves and the fact that this then affects tarasov’s career

, was it all true, well , it’s unlikely that it affected tarasov’s career, the only thing that it had a moral impact on tarasov was that he... was stripped of the title of honored master of sports, honored trainer of the soviet union , though they returned it six months later. cognac, old barrel, product of stellar group. let's talk a little more about the story, why do you think arkady ivanovich in...

they interacted with difficulty, i'll tell you one story, which suggests that there was contact at the beginning. was not in november or in in december of sixty-one, the ussr national team went to america, toured america, we usually played 8-10 games there, and on the eve of departure, arkady ivanovich ended up in the hospital with appendicitis, so only tarasov flew with us. a week later, arkady ivanovich arrived, well, the ampedicide was without complications, apparently,

everything, everything was fine, he arrived, and we moved from one city to another, waited to board the plane, somewhere around there - a place near the aisle settled down so that we could quickly get on the plane. and such a huge corridor, you've been to america, you know that there are huge corridors at airports, especially now, yes, and arkady ivanovich came up to me and said barefoot, he called me that, let's go , let's take a walk, i say, well, let's go, arkady ivanovich, he he hugged me a little , so we walked away... probably about 10 meters, when he said to me in a half-whisper, listen, well, just

between us, tell me what this guy is doing here, what he’s doing here, this is just an example, yeah, that there was no contact, then they worked in perfect harmony and found a common language, well, can you imagine working together for 10 years, this is very difficult in our business, especially since sometimes the second one disagrees with the first one, sometimes he brings it all to the team, like this, i couldn’t do anything, it was the first one who decided so . this has never happened, but there were cases when tarasov

tried to get into the team’s control during the game, here arkady ivanovich stopped him, sometimes quite rudely from my point of view, only then how they sorted it out, i don’t know, that is, a direct cycle on him , yes, well, one day he told him there, get out of here. nothing ourselves, let's talk about the player's popularity, we have already talked about the status of the captain of the soviet union national team, but this feeling, now we have status - these are good cars, this is a lot of money, this is a beautiful vacation, this is such a beautiful life. you have the feeling that you could very easily go to any restaurant on tverskaya or then on gorky street, your bill was paid 100%, because you are already a spartak legend, you are the captain of the soviet union national team. or somehow all this is also a small myth, everything was different, you on the seagull, this is a deep misconception

, so yes, there was a deep misconception that all restaurants are open with the top open, you are driving along gorky street in those years , getting to a restaurant in the evening is still a problem, there is a doorman, the door is locked, don’t knock, he doesn’t open it for you, you’re a major, how can he, why should i shout at the door? let me go, of course, no, but i had places where i could always spend time, well, for example, i worked in a restaurant in prague, a childhood friend in the yard together, we lived there for 20 years in sokolnye in wooden houses, and then i wasn't a big fan of these things. it’s just that this is probably the age when the formation of all these uh evil

adventures uh happens, i was busy, but i just didn’t have time, i ran from training to the institute, from the institute i ran to training - sometimes i didn’t even go to the periphery for match of the national championship, that's one thing. and then the second family, uh-huh, that means my mother , i don’t even remember her picking up a glass , i just don’t... i remember, my brother and i had a difficult childhood, there was a war, there was a father at the front, five children, three sisters, me and brother, my father came from the front , i didn’t remember him before the front, so he came from the front in 1945 in august, and

he was like that too... he was a sedate man, let’s get to today’s affairs, and the football team is looking for rivals of different scales and calibers, we understand why, there is cuba , there is cameroon, there is the egyptian olympic team there, and the hockey team generally has tension with this, but essentially there is only one tournament left, the channel one cup, what do you think, is it worth supporting at all team institute if there are no big international matches, i think so, because why - someday, but the doors will open for our national teams, we need to prepare for this and be ready to immediately prove ourselves, so the institution of national teams must be preserved, unfortunately,

the opportunities in hockey are much smaller than in football, except for belarusians and kazakhstan on...

the russian national team, well, this is an analogue of the team that in the spring in may traveled around the country and in kazakhstan, but was also in minsk and played friendly matches from kazakhstan with they played against belarus, and it was a series of matches that for some reason were called a super series, but that’s a different conversation, well, you can call it whatever you want, well, yes, well, just in our minds there is only one super series. yes, whatever, that means , today, they thought that there is no particular incentive for players over 25 years old, such main, i would say, players, for one simple reason: there is no prospect to fight for a place

then join the national team to participate in the world championship, yeah, others will go, that’s all. young people, what are they, they need to prove themselves, no matter how their future fate develops, they must prove themselves in order to gain a foothold in this orbit, and can you again open our eyes to the story of how roman borivich rtenberg became the head coach of this team? well, the fact is that there weren’t really any people willing , even so, today, in general, i think that when choosing a candidate for a national team coach, you need to be very careful and attentive, which means, going back to the spring

of this year, i can say that. .. games, i mean the calendar, that is, you count 68 - that’s a lot, that’s a lot, that’s a lot and it’s of no use to us, and it’s of no use to us, we still want to repeat the nhl. yes, let's remind you that there are 82 games, well, well, why do we need to repeat the nhl? we must always remember that the nhl is a commercial league, the best

hockey players from all over the world are gathered there, yeah, it doesn’t matter to the owners there, they look at the podium, it’s important that people go, from a financial point of view. everything was fine so that the league would receive income so that it could somehow influence the hockey economy, some new rules, well, don’t come up with them, due to circumstances they have some new rules, why do we need this, but we can’t be involved in the league, we’ll never be involved.

i am a big supporter of combinations, if not to say directly, i am against combining the position of coach of the club’s national team, i am

in favor of the team coach being released, well, for today, i just specifically analyzed it a few days ago, took the list all the coaches who work for... us in the league - and - i looked at the possibility of attracting them as a coach to the national team, well , some may simply refuse, because this system of 68 games, then there are playoffs, it completely exhausts you. there are probably no emotions left to work in the national team anymore, yeah, and there is one more circumstance that - probably,

not only pushes him, but also gives him the opportunity to calmly combine, we have grown so much coaching teams. well, i'm just surprised, i'm just surprised, chief coach, defensive coach, coach, striker, majority-minority coach, development coach, that’s what a development coach is, i don’t know, here’s a goalkeeper coach, and i always ask the question, what does the head coach do there, what does he do? . well, in this situation, it seems like i have the strength, i can, let’s see, we wish you success, let’s watch and root for our team, well

, i must say that we still need to separate, the russian national team and the national team of 25 , these are different, different things, uh-huh, why me i asked, how can i understand what?

csk, st. petersburg, kazan, the opinion is clear, the situation in magnitogorsk, yeah, that means they suddenly found themselves ahead, those who always had difficulty getting into the playoffs there, nizhny novgorod, spartak, lada, which just returned, lada, well, lada , lada, yes, lada sochi , well, sochito is now still arguing somewhere, beating someone somewhere, this has never happened there before, well , dynamo is probably performing at the same level as last year, in the year before last, well, who else, who can be singled out, ufa passed, yeah.

novosibirs passed from my point of view a motorist under good conditions will not in any way become a leader, and in these conditions there is more intrigue in hockey, that is, do you think that this year it is quite possible that spartak, torpeda, that on the other side of talya they can reach the final of the gagarin cup? well , hardly until the finals, especially. lada with her game, by the way, it so happened that spartak first played in moscow with a torpedo, and then with lada, and before that he also played in talati, with lada, a match that i watched on tv, and lost, and lost, well , spartak lost in shootouts.

the coach must take this into account when working with the team, but nizhny novgorod is pleasant to watch, as for the italian style, that is, one axiom derived by anatoly vladimirovich tarasov, it is impossible to educate a creative player in defensive hockey, these are not my words, this.

tarasov’s words, lada won’t go far with such defensive tactics, and as for football, well, here we have, i say, zenit, zenit, i always say that zenit is not the champion, a team of players from south america, well, that’s how it is.. .all this way and become a champion country, and it will be very difficult for krasnodar, i don’t really believe in it, huh, i don’t really believe it, well , let’s see, and especially the second half , i watched the match in st. petersburg, yes, but the first one was different, boris, our podcast is called hockey football, why hockey?

not football, let’s agree that there are a lot of problems in football, there are also a lot of problems in hockey, despite the success of hockey, and i always , as an official in the ussr sports committee, was indignant about what five football meetings are, and where sometimes at the level of the cpsu central committee, yeah , we were all driven there, which means old...

to argue with football in certain sections , now there will be a break in football, well, yes, where are the sports fans? let's hockey, winter sports, the province will promote biathlon , on television , yes, what he is already doing now, and so we simply cannot surpass football, but the palaces are packed, now look how it’s a pleasure to watch, how many people come to hockey, how sick they are, thank you very much for your time, boris sanich, and here we are. my name is denis kazansky, coming soon see you.

hello, dear friends, this is the podcast life of the remarkable, i’m with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov. and today we will talk about a wonderful writer, public figure, chingiz aitmatov. at first glance, it may seem that aitmatov has an extremely enviable fate. he lived a long, full life. he wrote many excellent hangings, stories, novels, which were made into films, plays staged, and translated into many foreign languages. he was a major public figure and a happy family man. women loved him, his friends respected him, in general, he was beautiful, complete, like a “life” novel. in fact, this life had its dark sides, it had its sad and tragic pages, and maybe that’s why the work of

chingiz aidmatov, if you read it carefully, is more sad than joyful. and that’s why this happened, we’ll try to figure it out today. so, chingiz... tarikulovich aitmatov was born in kyrgyzstan in 1928 in the family of a major party leader. his father tarikul was truly an outstanding man, was one of those people who believed in the revolution and in the revolution, went to serve it and achieved very great heights in this public service. he was the second secretary of the republican regional committee, i don’t know how to correctly formulate this authority, but. party, was even at one time a minister in kyrgyzstan, then he was sent to study in moscow, so the childhood of the future soviet classic, the childhood of chingez aetmatov, was a happy, fairly well-fed, very interesting childhood, especially since

he went to school in moscow, lived on chef's street, and what is also very important, from childhood he was actually belingual, he knew the kyrgyz language perfectly, he knew the russian language perfectly, then to this... the kazakh language will be added, this also determined a lot in the fate of chingiz aidmatov. but this happy time ended in the second half of the thirties, when clouds began to gather over tarykul aitmatov, realizing that a very sad fate awaited him, trykul managed to do the most important thing, he managed to save his family, realizing that death awaited both him and his wife, and his... children will face a grave fate, he managed to send them to their homeland in kyrgyzstan, away from moscow, away from fronze, to the village of vail, as they say in kyrgyzstan, the last thing eight

or nine-year-old chingi zaitmatov managed to remember was the figure of his father when they said goodbye at the kazansky station in moscow, the train started moving, the father ran after this train, they never saw each other again. after some time, trikul was actually arrested and the family did not know what happened to him. chingi zaitmatov’s mother managed, albeit not immediately, but managed to find a job as a reader on a distant collective farm, managed to get some kind of housing, and there in the distant kyrgyz aili , chingiz aetmatov’s formation, it seemed, was growing up, and there he already went to a kyrgyz school. which is also very important, first there was a moscow school, then there will be a kyrgyz school. he was very educated, very smart, very able to work, studied well, and what is also very important, during the years of his growing up there fell that difficult ordeal

that happened to the entire huge country, to the entire huge multinational soviet people, the great patriotic war, and of course, this war also left a huge mark on his fate. in his life, and of course, in his work. during the war, he worked as a secretary in the village council, because he was a literate, capable boy, sometimes he had to do very hard work. carry funerals home, so the war , of course, left this indelible mark, really a mark, even though the stamp says so, an indelible mark, but it really was a wound that ached in him, just like and the wound associated with the loss of his father, after graduating from school he chose a good, peaceful, useful profession, the profession of livestock specialist, then studied in the capital.

continued to get sick, continued to bleed, and

it is not for nothing that chengiz aitmatov will return to this topic so often, it is curious that he began as a translator, since he had a good command, excellent command of the kyrgyz and russian languages, one of his first literary experiences was translation of the story by valentin kotaev, son of the regiment, but when he came with this translation to the publishing house, he they said that the story had long been translated into the kyrgyz language, there was no need for its... translation, then he began to engage in his independent literary work, entered moscow, the literary institute, higher literary courses, which i am especially pleased to note, how much wonderful, diverse writers came out of the walls of this mansion on tver boulevard, and one of the very first stories of chingiz aitmatov, called dzhemelya, brought him not just an all-russian, not just an all-union, but brought him a worldwide glory. indeed it is. jamie liu

read in france the classic of french literature louise aragon, who, by the way, had a russian wife, elsa triola, and it can be assumed that it was she who pointed him to the debut of an unknown kyrgyz writer. oragon admired this story, said that this is romeo and juliet, paolo and francesco, and this story with a preface by aragon. according to some version translated by oragon, it was published in france, then it was translated into many other european and world languages, and aitmatov, one might say, in one day, in an instant, became such a famous writer and this was absolutely fair. it must be said that this story was read very differently in kyrgyzstan itself and in the soviet union as a whole, because it was truly a very bold step. this... the act of this girl was very ambiguously read

then, now, perhaps, we will look at it differently, but at least for the reader of that time it was unusual, and some critics of a more conservative persuasion believed that this the destruction of traditional foundations is the destruction of conservative values , but aitmatov looked at things that way, and here , of course, these facts had an impact and... according to his biography, it was that he did not grow up in a kyrgyz village like an ordinary kyrgyz, he was it was a boy, a teenager, a youth who lived in moscow, who received this, well , one might say, european moscow, soviet education, with this experience he came to the kyrgyz village, so his view of the village was precisely the view of a city dweller, the view of a metropolitan person . who was really outraged by these

customs, when a girl cannot control her destiny, when she has no freedom of choice, in fact atmatov in this story sang this female independence, female pride, female freedom, everyone, of course, remembers the wonderful picture of the daughter of kyrgyzstan, you can say , what about aitmatov’s heroines, here they are all the daughters of this new free kyrgyzstan, a soviet writer who sincerely believes in the soviet idea, and even the tragic story of his father, at these first times not could have eclipsed his own faith in the conviction that, in spite of everything, socialism is called upon to bring people goodness, light, enlightenment, in fact, in the republics

of central asia, not only in kyrgyzstan, but in other republics this is what happened, in fact this topic is like this civilization... for such a sharp development of kyrgyzstan, it can be even more poignant and sounds more dramatic in another wonderful work of our hero, in his story the first teacher, and if in dzhemel the action takes place during the great patriotic war, then in the first teacher aitmatov goes even further into the depths of history and there the time of action is the first soviet years and the post-revolutionary years. there you can even date the event of this story quite accurately, it is 1923, 1924, because the main character of this story, his name is duchesne, and he is an illiterate man who believed in the revolution, and who comes to a remote

kyrgyz village in order to carry this light of revolution, to bring enlightenment, to realize. this cultural revolution in the distant kyrgyz aili, all this happens in the year when lenin dies, it is very important that the portrait of lenin, as a portrait of an educator, as a portrait of a hero of his time, hangs in this school, which duchesne created in aili, created, despite to the opposition of the inhabitants of this ail, who do not understand at all why they, who for centuries... lived and did not know literacy, they did not need literacy for their traditional way of life, why do they need their children to be able to read, write, what exactly speaking, this is the point, but duchesne is a passionary, duchesne believes that it is necessary to free

these children from such centuries-old captivity from centuries-old slavery, from the old life by the method of this liberation. education is the means of this liberation, and although duchesne himself can hardly read and write, he nevertheless lights a fire in these children. another important geographical detail. atmatov is generally such a geographical writer. and the landscape, nature, mountains, these are all the heroes of his works. so here it is in this story, the most important hero is the cold river, such a fast, stormy stream through which children must...

and the world does not want to let these children go, in fact, the severity of this conflict between the old and the new, it is especially clearly felt in the image of the heroine of this story, girl, a fifteen-year-old girl whose name is altynai, she is an orphan, she grows up in a family of strangers who do not love her, whom she does not love, it is very difficult for her to live in this family and she, like no one else... understands that the teaching this is the new world that teacher duchesne promises, this dream is a way to escape from this slavery, this is her personal chance, so she studies, but the old world, as i already said, does not want to let her go, this is such an evil, greedy,

insidious aunt duchesne, at some point he decides to marry her to a rich kyrgyz who lives... in the mountains , in fact, the most dramatic moment in this story is when the girl altynai is kidnapped from school, duchesne does not want to give her up, but he is powerless against several strong men, who came to pick up altenai and altynai against her will they give her in marriage, that night i became a woman, she writes, because well, the story itself is structured somehow to ensure that altynai, as if disgraced, dishonored in the eyes of the village, but not in the eyes of duchesne, but not

in the eyes new government, but not.