into an empty bottle, this is a brilliant thing , absolutely, so chekhovian, and then suddenly it turns out that everyone is connected by a single chain with those times where the apostle peter denied christ three times, and that bad weather does not interfere with this connection of times, and this is ours good friday, suddenly we understand this, but this is such a day, he is not a student of the philology department, not the philology department, this is an amazing story, but... they say that it is not the most chekhovian, because there is light there, not everywhere chekhov has light, there are things where no one knows the real truth in a duel, or why cranes fly in typhus and so on, yulia ilinichina, do you have favorite things, you know, i can say that the jumping student, the gooseberry and in general many stories, it’s very difficult to choose a favorite, but the last ones several years, if you like, boris nikolaevich laughs.

you don’t want to talk to me, but the story makes me want to sleep, i won over everyone, because i so often want to sleep to such an extent that, in chekhovian style, yes, that’s when they ask me, well, now what, i say, now i want to sleep , yes, no, well there - he has something so poignant and bright and gentle and uh sublime, and some kind of, how can i tell you, he... something that makes a person feel real to him, you get to know the person, you get to know the character, so amazing in the characters are written in the stories in the plays, they can be changed this way and that, how many options, how many directors and so on, in whatever ways they didn’t do it, i was shocked when once a seagull , that each character is in love with the next one, yes, yes, yes , this is a chain, so a chain, a chain, unrealistic,

you know, the perception of everything, and this is a disease, and this discrepancy in his love, the knipper leaving all the time, this happiness, which , strictly speaking, does not exist at all, and in general , yes, he understood that he was leaving, he understood that he was dying, this is champagne, you know, this is has become a household name, so i think that this is their shterbe, as it were, there’s no need to explain anything, yeah. i also want to sleep, there are other phrases, well, for example, the famous phrase from a letter to olga leonardovna about carrots, yes, you ask what life is, he writes, i’m roughly paraphrasing, chekhov writes to his wife, well, it’s the same for you to ask what a carrot is, a carrot, it is a carrot, he says, you can’t say more precisely, yes, but what follows is the most important thing, and nothing else is known to anyone, well, that is, we are used to to think that a hand is

a limb - a sofa is furniture, a christmas tree is a tree, that is, we learn as if yes, generalizing, and he says that a tree is a tree, a carrot is a carrot, a hand is a hand, there is no need to put anything under anything, but in my opinion, there is still a paradox here, yulia, ilinishno, maybe you will not agree, but the light breaks through a lot of pessimism, yes, this is its value, because petya trafimov says that we will plant our garden, the university itself. they are very close to moscow , here’s an endless train from moscow to moscow and work, just get on the train, you know, at some point, when i was watching a play at pyotr naumnich’s, which was different, there were wonderful acting work, but in general i wanted to say. galya, ksyusha, kudepova, yes,

polina, get on the train. i heard this was in the reading by viktor rozhakov, the reading was like this, well, the first one with a corpse there. and i read this very quickly and the familiar text, well, just to get used to it, i thought the same thing, what was stopping me, what obstacles it had, despite all the beauty, sublimity, tragedy of masha and - this very vershinin, yes, at the same time the orchestra sounds, it everything goes away, yes, and at the same time there is still a feeling, wait, girls, everything is like this, why didn’t you take at least some step?

when the russian-japanese war began, and it was already clear that he would soon tell them to shterbe, after all, he is a doctor, he says: i will go to war as a military doctor, mother honest, just before i die, yes, and he, so to speak, perceives it this way, so it is very important that this is also a response to endless criticism, there is creativity out of nothing, the absence of an ideal, the lack of sympathy for the heroes, this is a common place in criticism, you know, they have an amazing relationship with rachmaninov, because they seem to not...

chekhov, i’ve already read two volumes, what a horror, when will i read the rest , my conversation and contact with him will end in horror, because he relied so much, for him chekhov was like...

we do one of three things with you: either we comment on the poem, or show an old book, or quote classics, prose and... in this case, an old book, it’s not very -it’s old, this is the eighties , this is a book in the twilight, this is a collection of chekhov’s stories, which in twelve-volume books is included in the fourth volume, usually these are not the most famous things, but a curious story alexander pal chekhov, his beloved brother, is overseeing the publication of this book then in 1887, this is generally a commercial project, alexey sergeevich suvorin, playwright, publisher of chekhov. picked up stories that were mostly published in the newspaper novoye vremya, which he also published, and offered to publish them, look, what an anecdotal story, chekhov sends a list of these sixteen stories and wants to dedicate them to grigorovich, and indeed

there is a dedication to grigorovich, but in his own spirit, he writes a comic dedication to a holder of russian and foreign orders, he writes to his brother, brother, for the sake of a joke - this... inserts it into the proof , sends something, then he becomes horrified, well can you imagine, a book comes out with this ironic dedication to grigorovich, the most respected author, alexander pavlovich dissuades him, but no, i was joking, in a word, there are many wonderful stories here, by the way, such a dialogue arises between them, in the twilight, the title did not appear immediately , this is such a dual name, as if on the one hand it is peace, when you can think about something. on the other hand, this is some kind of darkness or twilight, yes, this anticipates the next, one of his next collections, which are clearly called gloomy people, alexander chekhov writes, well, twilight is a bad name, not

many butterflies will fly to twilight, come up with a name for the railway, like the death of the executioner on the ashes of judas, or part of an aspen tree, on it . guys, that you keep pushing me back, so to speak, including the witch,

i want to sleep, it means that this works not only, let’s say, for people who are already adults, so to speak, but even today’s youth, something in these stories, specifically in the stories of the eighties, because we somehow neglect them a little, as if, well, we'll read this quickly, it's just so -so.

level, on the other hand, tragic on the one hand, wealth, some distance from moscow, from the theater, then yalta to the south, to the south, finally badenweiler, that place is not there, there is also his house in gurzufi, amazing. i haven’t visited what happened with rachmanin, with bunin, the stanislavskys and artists come there, such things happened there, just such a small house, everything there is imbued with this spirit of communication, and you see how chekhov influences people, well, tolstoy’s famous phrase that shakespeare, of course, is a barbarian, but your play is even worse, he says, yes, but it’s important that it’s leo tolstoy who says, three writers who were named, and tolstoy couldn’t stand chekhov, well , that was of course as a playwright, here it was,

well, not feigned, or perhaps irritating - tolstoy, because there is a famous phrase when lev nikolaevich says that he looked at uncle vanya, uh-huh, he got furious, he came to write a play, a living corpse, a living one , just hating, well, they hate too much, not just they don’t like it, of course, if we then he’s still there about uncle vanya, well, what is it, well, living in a village with a cricket is so, so wonderful, but if a professor is pestering his wife, it’s terrible, for this there are tanks and mankas in the village, so to speak, of course, the professor’s wife not a trosh, not a trosh, and of course, such a person cannot dine with a flaubert and a pasan to live in paris, this is our organic russian genius, which we talked about with vladimirov and. thick, we’ll talk more than once. i remind

you that today we are talking about anton pavlovich chekhov, with the wonderful interlocutors, with people's artist of russia, actress of the yevgeny vakhtangov theater, yulia ilyinishna rutberg, with boris nikolaevich lyubimov, theater critic, theater historian, rector of the higher theater school named after mikhail semenovich shchepkin. well, this is something not insane, i have to tell you that before that i had an amazing

meeting with chekhov, a very difficult, but fantastic one given to me by the lord god, this was grisha kozlov, when we left for bulgaria and there in 24 days, on stage for a second there were vanya latashev, seryozha bekhterev, well, that ’s actually something, sasha bargman and seryozha vlasov, my dream was to work with dodintsy, katsman.

everyone was changing, my god, in different directions, it was an amazing performance, and i remember that once, which means, a blanket was thrown backstage, and it landed on the tiles, a terrible stench began, and seryozha bekhterev asked in all seriousness what- it smells, to which vanya latashev answers him, what, what, heliatrope, yes, that is, we were so all and yes, it’s wonderful, you know, i think that chekhov was still favorable to us, because once vanka and i , i had a czech, this...

we need new forms, and we tried to fill these new forms, you can imagine, we all had two casts and tanechka drubich plays nina, she is at a high level - there is a high platform there, just like that her head and suddenly she throws off the rag, in her head it’s like a huge dress and people, lions, eagles, partridges, the nightingale came that day, she was terribly worried, it wasn’t me who played, natasha kolikanova, and you can introduce.

and to my divine st. petersburg boys, and bargman, and ladashev , and vlasov, the kingdom of heaven, bekhterev for this performance, you know, how to say, i dived into chekhov, when chekhov’s text, i start to vibrate, either me, yes, i, or suddenly i start to vibrate, i really want to go there continue, i know a lot, because chekhov became

close and dear not only with his eyes, but with his body, soul, gesture and most importantly his nervous system, so i would say this, read it to us, oh, well, now it will be the unified state exam, yes, i don’t i know i may not pass it, however, why are you saying, what? kissed the ground i walked on, i should be killed, i’m so tired, i should rest , rest, i’m a seagull, no, that’s not it, i’m an actress, well, yes, and he’s here, well, yes, nothing, yes, he didn’t believe in the theater kept laughing at my dreams, and little by little i also stopped believing , i lost heart, there was the care of love, jealousy, constant fear for the little one, i became petty, insignificant, i played senselessly, i didn’t know what to do with my hands, i didn’t know how stand on stage, didn’t have control over your voice, you don’t understand this

state when you feel like you’re playing, terrible, i’m a seagull, no, that’s not it, remember , you shot a seagull, a man came by chance , saw it, and, having nothing to do, ruined it, the plot for a short story, “that’s not what i’m talking about, but i’m talking about the scene, now i’m no longer like that, i’m already a real actress, i play with pleasure, with delight, i get drunk on stage and feel beautiful, and now while i live here, i keep walking, i keep walking and i think, i think and i feel how i’m growing every day my spiritual strength, i now know, “i understand, i understand, kostya, that in our business we still play on stage or write, the main thing is not fame,

not brilliance, not what i dreamed of, but the ability to endure, know how to bear your cross and believe, i believe, and it doesn’t hurt so much when i think about my..." from the title, then i’m not afraid of life, great, today we spoke in chekhov, and prose writers and playwrights, and people , thank you very much, dear friends, this was a podcast, let them not talk, let them read, hosted by dmitry bak. to fast or not to fast, and if you fast, then why and how ? hello, today we

have gathered our thoughts about the christmas post. ksenia alferova, tv presenter, actress, priest anthony borisov, associate professor or professor already? no, no, no, associate professor, associate professor, but seniors can, associate professor of the moscow theological academy, i am vladimir ligoida, hello, dear friends, hello, hello! but tell me, please, it seems to me that the first question that arises for a person , perhaps not very familiar with the church, at least i heard this: well , lent is understandable, why christmas? ancient church tradition suggests that for every significant holiday, a celebration, especially such as the holiday of the nativity of christ, which in its meaning, if inferior to some other church holiday, then only easter, well, to this celebration. then it’s probably worth preparing, in fact , traditional church preparation is fasting, as such, well, ascetic practice,

rooted in the depths of centuries, but it ’s completely different, it’s still the christmas fast, it’s especially, i honestly admit to you, until recently, as you just said, the majority don’t understand, that is, it’s not that i don’t understand, but i even especially i didn’t really think about it, i thought that somehow the christmas post was not so uh- huh.

yes, it’s clear, well, it’s clear that a person only values ​​what he gets with difficulty, so i was balanced in my understanding of this post by sazhuko, i read his book, and he writes there that well, that’s why exactly so many days, and he somehow, well, how can i say, he is more loyal, and he writes that in general it was different, it was for a week, it was, well, that is, yes, in tradition, and that i really liked it, i literally today this book looked through it and said that, well, even

if you ate porridge with this unfortunate milk , like a parable, you are all worried about milk, butter, oatmeal, but it is simple porridge, this is also a post, than if you have some very non-lenten menu, but it’s all so complicated and complicated to prepare , yes, that shish kebab made from etitlina is definitely not, that he writes well there, that fasting is modesty, here’s something else 2 s... something that modest is not modest, but accordingly fasting - this is modest, that is, everything that simple, it’s lean, but modest is just not lean, but look, that’s what i ’m saying, that is, not modest, that is, not lean, and i came to the conclusion that when you prepare for this, when you understand, what event awaits you ahead, well, like this wonderful magic of the birth of not just a child, well, the birth of any child, this is magic, christ himself, and why is this

necessary, because when you read how it was in russia. about what it was like and what it was for, can i just continue my thought about it’s still a cleansing, that is. because not the body, but the soul, yes, well, everything , in fact, the body, and the soul, and houses, well , it’s just that the external is also important, if it does not remain only external, and that is, people understood that before such events , but they simply cannot, well, that is, they cleaned every corner of their home and there were, well, sort of traditions, like separate icons, special brushes that were used to clean the corners there, which were given out before christmas and easter only.

and this is also a kind of action, which, well, that is m, how to say, what we have now , in my opinion, lost, that is, not from fear, not from punishment or fear, but when you are completely permeated with this and not because it is necessary, no, but with the premonition of this truly miracle big, and you are waiting for it all these days, and you are preparing, therefore, all these days, gifts, because you are like the wise men, their and... good deeds, that is, there are many components in addition to fasting, all this, which is also as part of this post or something, it’s all about goodness, so that, because you can’t before the eyes of the uh, savior to appear there, the house is dirty, even the poorest people were preparing a clean new shirt or something new skirt or something else, well, because well, how could it be otherwise, well, it’s impossible to do otherwise, that’s why for me somehow this is some kind of blasphemy that always, that is, as soon as you how to say?

content, because in the end , no matter how scandalous it may sound, christ was crucified by religiously sophisticated scoundrels who knew perfectly well all the traditions and carefully observed them, but for them their own religiosity turned out to be more important than god, yeah, their own religiosity was elevated to the pedistal of veneration, and god remained somewhere on the sidelines, i know, i would like to ask about this, because by and large, the nativity fast and lent, they last 40 days. yes, but the christmas one turns out to be longer, but this is already considered not a great fast, and in addition , it turns out to be longer, they are both connected with fasting, which is actually with the 40 days that christ was in the desert, yes, that is the tradition goes back to, well, great

primarily, predominantly, but nevertheless, it is also 40 days, why is the nativity fast 40 days now, because christ was in the desert for 40 days, and i actually wanted to ask you about this, here in in this story, christ is in the desert, and at the end of it... the devil comes, approaches him, begins to tempt him, that’s what is most important for you, father anthony, in this story? it seems to me that it is very important to emphasize here that it is not that christ starved for these 40 days in the desert or ate very, very meager in terms of what he could find there, here we are talking about the fact that a person who has decided for himself that he will fast in preparation for the holiday must understand the important thing that fasting is, of course , not a diet of any kind, that along with abstinence from food there should be prayer in his life, since christ did not just wander through the desert and, again, starve, but the gospel directly indicates that christ prayed all these days, the third component is

an attempt to overcome his selfishness, because those the temptations that the devil addresses to christ are an attempt precisely in christ to arouse this most selfish feeling, i am the best i can. practically, christ then turns these five loaves into some incredible amount, so that only 5,000 men were fed, women and children were not taken into account, but the devil asks, then show your pride, like this, then

throw yourself away from the roof of the temple and show that the angels will pick you up, i will demonstrate that you are the messiah, and the third is the entire kingdom of the world in front of you, and it’s interesting... that the logic of the devil is all the kingdoms of the world belong to me, says the devil, uh-huh, they all serve me, bow to me, everything will be yours. today we gathered our thoughts about the meaning of the nativity fast, ksenia alferova, priest anthony borisov, we continue, i know, i would like to ask about this, man is a creature, excuse me, psychosomatic, yes, it is clear that everything is connected with us, you already they said about it, but nevertheless , it’s true that there kebab

came from... food, they arose on the basis the following logic: this is how st. basil the great reasoned, thanks to which our ideas about what food is lenten and what is not lenten were largely formed, it was still very simple: lenten food should be, firstly, simple, and secondly, affordable , thirdly, cheap. yep, simple, simple, gall porridge with sauerkraut, my favorite food. the idea of ​​seafood and fish as lean food arose in a very specific historical cultural environment, when it was truly a waste product in the mediterranean, when, well, i went to the market and there it

was, actually, cheap fish and cheap seafood, which were generally given away almost for nothing, why because it was almost algae, sea grass, no one then, you know, admired the oysters, yes. this, by the way, was one of the items on the agenda of the pan-orthodox council that never took place, a revision of the idea that in the current conditions... buckwheat, buckwheat, buckwheat, buckwheat, i just remember, it was just buckwheat, there's squash caviar, i don't know what else you can eat with buckwheat, yes, yes, yes, ah then we came in, i went to visit our friends, who, he is a restaurateur, well , that is, he loves to feed, he eats deliciously, but they are such church-going people, which means they are like that, and they offered you lighted lopstas. no, and there were no lobsters there, there were more of me and me, which means my mother

accepted them, she says, i was waiting for them, she says, well, you must be hungry, i say , i’m hungry, she says, well, what do you want, do you want there are such pies, pancakes, something else, i think so quietly, well, what am i saying, it’s fasting, he says, so they’re fasting, that’s it there is such splendor, i say yes, then the owner came, i had the only phrase that was that it was possible, i said, and we eat buckwheat alone, and so he explained to me what’s what? so that we at least forget about our loved ones for a while and, having saved money on groceries , give this money to those who need it, that’s why the food is lean. should be simple, accessible and cheap, well, this, by the way,

is very important, i just wanted to talk about this, here are the works of mercy, yes, as an organic and obligatory part of fasting, i it seems that in general, well, let’s say, a wide circle of fasting people don’t always think about it, not everyone, that’s exactly what so many of us are talking about, that’s all, there is a separate genre, christmas stories, well, it’s like a separate genre, that’s all christmas stories are always about how you help. dickins's fairy tale, here are the changes of scrooge

, yes, well, yes, it all started with this, in fact, with this work, they are all about this, and it was a must, that you definitely had to, that is, you then bought food for christmas itself as for family, and for that is, the house was open , the kitchen was open to everyone, that is, you could go into any house, well, more or less wealthy, i am a person in need of water from the street to eat, go on, eat, go on, yes, it’s interesting that after all, not only during lent, but you do these good deeds,

food, that when the holiday comes,

many people just seem to lose their brakes, and yes, finally, finally, it turns out that this entire period before the holiday, it takes place in the format of not teaching, something good, waiting for when i will eat, when sausage will return to my life, yes, i even remember one person said, i say, i dream about cheese so much, i wanted to give him cheese. a saint closer to us in time, who lived in the 19th century, was forced by the great-great-grandfather of nikolai nikolaevich, yes, the saint was forced to attend all sorts of secular receptions, it must be said that we live in some illusion about the piety of our ancestors in the 19th century, it must be said, to know our i didn’t really fast,

i had to attend noble receptions , including fasting, so here it is, so that... well not to attract attention, he picked something on his plate with a fork, and sometimes he ate something, well, just so as not to look like a black sheep in this sense, yes, why does it happen more often, just not to offend people, well, that is, when you come and the hostess has prepared everything, but she’s not fasting, i’ve often encountered this, and if you suddenly, oh, and i’m fasting, she starts to get upset, yes, well, what’s your porridge, and she cooked, it seems to me, here,

longer, i just know from myself that if you either don’t do something or do something during lent, well, i don’t know, you start reading the gospel there, yes, then to the extent that it lasts more than 21 days, it really remains a good habit with you, from something that you don’t even really want to do after that , you kind of get out of the habit of it, this is absolutely understandable, but

if this is a post, then you then have several things in one bottle, well, that is, you are getting rid of a bad habit? yes, that a person is a habit, a person is a memory and a habit, but look, i still wanted to return to this temptation in desert, that’s why, since we’ve already had such a frank conversation, look, the gospel story, why the devil comes to the end of fasting, because he understands that a person must be exhausted, he’s tired, he fasted for 40 days, that is, he counts , that he

is at the weakest point, at the lowest point, and in the weakest state, and he is mistaken, because for christ these 40 days are just... such, well, gaining strength, and this is for us, well, it’s clear that we now that god and man are, so to speak, completely special history, and we are not talking about this here now, but about the fact that, in theory, this is also a model for us, that is, by the end of the post you should feel stronger, but it seems to me that i have a question for you and for you , father anthony, first of all, as a shepherd , but in your pastoral practice, do we succeed in this, because we usually crawl towards the end of lent, i can tell from myself, when is this chamfer there, when? not because of food, of course, that’s it, that is, it turns out that something is wrong, by the way, this is where it manifests itself it is precisely the christian specificity of fasting as a spiritual practice; the fact is that abstinence from food, bowing, well, praying, as it were, are in themselves.