well, here are the things that, in fact, many of the foreign guests, we are talking primarily about western ones, simply threw away, for example , tights with a hook, it all went into use, it was all sold, right down to some, i don’t know, boxes and uh, packages , something like that, relatively speaking , some kind of half-chewed chewing gum, well, i’m exaggerating, of course, but all this was used, well, i wanted, uh,

with which they were masquerading as people from the country in which they specialized, let's say the italians were called alera, they dressed like italians, because they they bought these things from the italians, moreover , large travel companies , and they sent tourists, there was no longer actually individual tourism, everyone went in groups, but when they went in groups, they were given some kind of hats with the symbols of a travel agency, or bags with the symbols of this agency, very recognizable things, and force officers, they bought these attributes and walked around with these bags, they were accepted, by the way, by operatives or whoever was hunting for them, there were all kinds of vigilantes there, they took them for foreigners because they looked, they could speak fluently enough...

which i remember from that couple, because all my student years i lived in the southwest, leninsky prospekt 156, the last one on leninsky prospekt, next to fireworks hotel on the one hand , on the other hand, there is ruden, the peoples' friendship university, where there are a lot of foreigners, and close to volkin street, where the pushkin institute was located, i don’t know how it is now, then at that time, where students from western countries studied russian countries,

therefore, there, as a young man , i met girls, i had a lot of italian acquaintances there, american women, by the way, my first trip abroad took place at the invitation of clara, after she had already finished her studies in the soviet union and went to hungary, she invited me to her hometown of kecskemét, hungary, and i arrived there and... she met me in the capital in budapest and you know where she took me first, she took me there, not to look at the bridges from across the danube at some architectural masterpieces, no, she took me to mcdonald's, because in budapest mcdonald's was opened earlier than in moscow, and it was, well, it was just wow, like come drink coca-cola, eat these fried potatoes, biggmagk, right here

i was impressed by their craft, although, to be honest, i was in my student years and this craft never seemed shameful, well, people, people work, people, just like that, they iron and bomb, iron - that means, because here they are spreading, and the process itself was called bombing

upon purchase of goods. the work, by the way, was risky only at the first stage, when people were really afraid of getting into... in sight of some base, because apparently the operatives had some kind of base, if a person came across, he was sent there entered into this database as a person who occupies a job, earns his living in something unworthy from the point of view of the system, although from the point of view of modern realities it’s just a business, a person chose this kind of occupation for himself, that’s how he earned money, when there was this fear overcome, then only later, actually, and what can they do to you if you don’t immerse yourself in...

uh, a figure in this business than his mentor, and uh, he cleared a clearing for his mentor, he turned him in, throwing him some currency, that is, he was imprisoned, he cleared it clearing, uh, then he came out and after serving time he killed his

comrade, or his sister killed him, i don’t remember these details now, but these stories were told as if, after all, this is a business...

take the background there... then, because these things are best to sell, and if we are talking about foreigners from the warsaw pact countries, then there are from eastern europe, then these brought exactly the same amount as they took away, because in the soviet union it was possible to buy many

things that were not sold, for example, well in poland, the poles specialize very much in this, they bought french perfume here. french perfumes, which were much cheaper in the soviet union than in france, even in terms of the official exchange rate, because they were so-called petrodollars. that is, it was a barter relationship, we sent oil, did not receive only the foreign exchange earnings of the state, but also partly in goods, and these goods from france are perfumes, from finland these are clothing products, they were sold in soviet stores, of course, everything was sold out instantly, that is , there were either some crazy queues where i had to sign up, or it would go under the radar. but in principle , the poles bought a lot of things here and

exported them to poland, because they kind of made money twice, they came here, sold something, made money here and from of the soviet union, they brought something to poland and sold it there and made money here and there, you can watch all episodes of the podcastlab project on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. this is a podcast chronicling the end of times and i, evgeniy dodolev, tell you about the subculture of soviet force workers. for sales, by the way, they were often used, in addition to stores, well, retail outlets, so-called, where they were thrown away, there was such a term: goods were thrown away, these goods were thrown away, there were also thrift stores. my classmate, whom i was married to first marriage, there were two of them - girlfriends , twins, they worked in thrift stores, one in one, the other in

another, that is, they did not work in the same store, i often bought something from them, what was the scheme, they were very integrated into this system of farsovka, because the blackmailers, many of those things that were - well, they didn’t sell like hot cakes, they handed them over to a thrift store, and there was a designated... that is, the farcester - received money, part from this money he gave as a fee

appraiser, and it was even much funnier when these two sisters, with the help of farcical acquaintances, generally set up this kind of business that - let's say, a specialist who came from abroad brought some thing to a thrift store, they gave him a price possible minimum assessment of this... these things, a call immediately rang out to a familiar iron, who came to the opening of this consignment store, officially bought this thing through the cashier, and immediately took it to his sister in the second store, where she bought the same thing i already set it at the maximum price, that is , in general it is a very, very dusty job, that is , literally 15-20 minutes of work and there you could earn well 100 rubles there. there and or even more. there were many of these schemes, from

the point of view, probably, of modern people, especially young people, they will not understand at all what we can talk about here, because this is what is called business: you bought it as cheaply as possible, sold it as expensively as possible , earned money, you spent time, some of your strength, earned money, but from the point of view soviet legislation, this could fall under article 154. speculation, that is, buying for the purpose of selling, for profit , that is, a person consciously bought things, understanding that he would sell it and sell it for more, and sold it for more, i not only bought jeans and not only sold things that clara asked me to sell , i was a music lover, with records it was the same story, that is, yes, the company released the melody.

or love songs, and this began to be blamed on the collection, although relatively speaking, nine out of ten were from this original albums, one added to the other, it went like a collection, these records, just like one of polo macartney’s records specially published in the soviet union, and many people brought it to the west, because it was such a joke, such this is a rarity,

this vinyl was a good gift, and all this was sold on the gum line farthest from red square, not far from the record department, there was a department where records were sold, there was such a black market, that is, young people hung out there, this vinyl was exchanged, bought, sold, and often you could get caught out of the blue, because let’s say a person came with a record that he had either listened to, had already recorded on... and the tape recorder, well , or even wanted to get rid of it, wanted some other record, was ready change, but the one who had the desired vinyl, he needed either money or something completely different, so the person sold the record in order to then buy another record, well, at the very moment of sale, when he received uh money, he was already

becoming, in general, an object of potential interest of the police, because this , in general... was illegal trade from hand, again, if it wasn’t, it was impossible to prove that this was speculation with the intention of doing it, that is , they couldn’t put you on trial, but you could get a headache to be wealthy, in general, somewhere i can say to myself that in my student years i was such a seller of the light category, because i sold records, bought records, helped my friend lari sell goods brought from hungary. all this came to naught when, in fact, firstly, currency exchange in the country was legalized, secondly, freedom appeared, travel began, this shuttle movement, they began to bring things here, it was already organized, in general, the end of times had come, it was a podcast chronicling the end of times, and i , evgeniy dodalev

told you about the subculture of soviet black marketeers. hello, i'm still dmitry bak, i still host a literary podcast called let them not talk, let them read. how much debate is there now about the classics, is it relevant, or is it forever outdated? of course, there are very different writers, but dostoevsky, fyodor. mikhailovich dostoevsky, among russian and world classics , occupies a very special place, so i think , let’s see what my guests think, today our guest is the director, people’s artist of russia, vladimir ivanovich khotyanenko, hello, vladimir ivanovich, thank you for coming, we are lenkom theater actor mark zakharova, anton shagen, and we will talk about

dostoevsky for a reason, this year it will be performed. years since the publication of a separate edition of the novel bes, taking advantage of this opportunity, we will talk about the novel besa, about dostoevsky, about creativity, and most importantly, about today. vladimir ivanovich, how did dostoevsky appear in your creative destiny, because you filmed the dostoevsky series in the eleventh year, and then the demons, partly the reason for this is the architectural institute, which i graduated from at one time, because we have everything there.

for everything again the tenth, this intrigued me, and this was perhaps the first seed sown, then fate turned out in such a way that i was offered to make a series about dostoevsky , and i suddenly recalled the impression, i re-read, first of all, i remembered, naturally, constantly, or rather i didn’t remember, i thought about nabokov about this internal polemic, but nabokov didn’t convince you, you seem to now think that he’s wrong, nabokov, i think he’s completely wrong, absolutely. that is, in his own way, that well, for this you need to know on his side, but he himself was still that kind of thing, he didn’t highlight the sides, you know, sometimes it’s very important to highlight with some unusual light, and through the enemy, through opponent, right?

wanted to go to tolstoy in clear glade and they dissuaded him, but dostoevsky on this, well, he, he is susceptible to such messages, he really wanted to get to know each other, he’s letters even in any case, i’m now, for example, i’m now, for example, suddenly terrified i imagine that fate would not give me such a gift, because i am today. without fyodor mikhailovich dastoevsky - this is not a beautiful word for the occasion, this is not a figure of speech, i cannot imagine my life, that’s why i have a heavenly reference book, i can do this

here, i enjoy, i used to read, i read, i revel in style, ideas, and style, in spite of absolutely. the thing is, what i had in common with nabokov, i also studied butterflies, but this is news, the architect and i too, an entomologist, i have urticaria, i had urticaria, such mutations, fantastic, i could run 5 km in a hurry urticaria, and most importantly, violating all the principles of these entomologists, i caught with my hands, and i put this manner of mine on stovogin, that’s how fate is, here, from these here...

you still can’t get enough of him, well is it really possible to get enough, i also tell students, there are volumes with notes for novels, for teenagers, for example, this is no less interesting than a novel for teenagers, a diary, there was no internet, a person wrote everything he thought, and this is a treasury once in st. petersburg i found dostoevsky’s notebooks in the second-hand bookstore, which he was preparing for the novel, idiot. pre-revolutionary edition, i became interested, found it somewhere at the very bottom, moreover, an uncut book, not yet cut, unread, i arrived with

rapture, under a light bulb at home, which means i started read this and was shocked by how much these notebooks, well, this can be said to be a separate work, only in the eighth notebook he wrote in calligraphic handwriting, dostoevsky writes the word “prince” at the beginning of the page, from this word everything begins to come together for him,

nothing is easier, and here , more interesting, i can say, well, for me the main criterion , perhaps, is creativity, yes, so to speak, the volume of this or that character who would not just live his life, yes, but would be in dialogue with her, in a collision, then it turns out this polyphony, then it turns out interesting. of course, it’s interesting to observe, as for the historical or modern , the main thing here is that there is a core, this flaming vertical, which you want to dissolve in, immerse yourself in, and then unfasten from yourself, because so that it doesn’t migrate to other roles when you you begin to encounter dostoevsky, and i played him in the theater in the cinema, when you begin

to encounter his text, it is so energetically very highly charged that it is impossible to immediately say so let’s say dacha learn, for example, he begins to put pressure on you, he sits down on you all, and you can completely dissolve as a performer, like tongue-tiedly repeating such a brilliant non-turgenev disharmony, an amazing text precisely of his disharmony, which, but the thought at the same time is extremely strong and not is lost, dostoevsky is strong, he is a block. meanings and thoughts, and not reasoning, well, i really love not a single turgenev, well, a wonderful russian writer, but imagine honoring the sun setting behind, well, it’s simply impossible, birds they began to sing, a landscape painting, although, although he wrote for money, as it were, yes, that is, his, well, not , his main idea was for money, yes, but he always needed money extremely, so he could have left himself well, he says to tolstoy turgenem, they have money

, but i need to finish, what do i mean, he could sit on these rails, as it were, and describe nature for 20 pages, but he doesn’t have this, he, he’s to the grain, he breaks through to meaning, although it’s certainly difficult to read, i’m vladim ivanovich, sorry, anton, i’m enjoying myself conversation so much that i just want to stop and give you the floor to talk to each other, but it’s very important for me to ask you everything that was in my head, that’s when you...

we look like a grotto, by the way, i wanted to say, we are similar in the grotto in the film, where she killed, the fact is that i read, but i read revolutionary publications in soviet times, they weren’t published, yes, but i, as i say, i was such a reader, inquisitive, smart, i’m just me i read a lot, ruined my eyesight, lost my dream of becoming an astronaut, you see, that’s why, but this everything seems to be just a statement, yes, dostoevsky, the great writer from pirov’s painting, like that like that.

katerga, i wouldn’t exist, says fyodor mikhailovich, if it weren’t for katerga, he only had one notebook, there are notes for the building, yes, i know, this publication is wonderful. hello, this is news from the first, maria vasilyeva studio and at the beginning of the issue, briefly about the main topics: the enemy is under the gun of night hunters, the strike group of our air aces is at the forefront, and throughout the country on round-the-clock duty, formidable yars, strategic troops missilemen hold impenetrable shields in their...