start, just like happy new year, my birthday is august 31st and september 1st, everything was always dedicated to this, yes, that is, something was bought, some new pants, new shoes, these new shoes were worn on september 1st, of course, when you put on new shoes on august 30, they should be clean and ideal, well, you see, this delayed life syndrome, it is formed absolutely unconsciously, you understand that almost everyone has it, of course. i don’t know

the statistics, but there are very few people who are happy here now, today i i woke up, thank god, and my children came into the kitchen just to have breakfast, what a blessing, uh-huh, just to be happy here now, on new year’s eve my mother called, god, thank you , well, because how many people roll their eyes, she’s calling again, why for us, this , in principle, has been very relevant for decades , because in the post-soviet space in the last century, the theme of scarcity, the theme of shortage, it is connected with old events, and the history of russia and the soviet union, it is very difficult, we have people in basically, we got a stick of sausage, hurray, well, you can’t eat sausage every day, we’ll put it aside, yes. well, for the new year, for some

holiday, birthday, now yes, but we have formed genetics, genetic memory, and we grow up in families, somewhere it’s like that, and i don’t know how old olesya is, but i so i guess, around thirty, well , let’s go to another generation, wait, another generation, 34 years old, this man was born in 89, yes, yes, yes, this is the most interesting thing, i was little, i’m still ninety, of course, of course , and let's take a look at what happened to olesya’s parents in the nineties, there was poverty - there was poverty , their task was to feed, the task was not to please here now to learn - to be happy here now, the task was to feed and send to school, where they could also be fed, that is, be be careful, be attentive, save for a rainy day, don’t be too happy, it’s unknown what will happen tomorrow, it will be collected, yes.

now you are absolutely responsible for what happens to you, so take this responsibility to yourself, say, yes, that’s my choice, so i came to the store, and today i’m an adult woman, i choose not to buy this dress, because it doesn’t suit me, it’s your responsibility, with young people, and if a young man meets right on new year’s eve, well, this is an ideal option and it seems to me,

that is, it’s about the boundaries in our heads for ourselves, of course, of course, so, dear friends, new year’s holidays, how not to rip your lower back? champagne for everyone, no matter how many, a battery from a children's toy, how to avoid trouble, a program to live healthy, will help everyone, tomorrow at first, i ’ll sing you a song about our recreation center, he’s sick of you. already for sure, but today everything will happen, and our concert will end, a new line will begin, but for now we are happy to welcome, kvn, major league,

final on december 30 at the first, and... cool belly dance, no, i was just coughing, who are you ? i'm russian, where are you going? to the end, this is a psyche podcast, where i, journalist natalya loseva and family psychologist katerina sivanova figure out together with our heroine olesya, what can she change in the approach to annual new year's resolutions, there is such a practice, we fantasizing about what awaits us in the coming... year, it is very useful if we do it by hand on paper, do it in the present tense, that is, we are not telling what i will have, so i really want a bathhouse, well in the sense of building, it is very useful to immerse yourself in a state when you say, i have a bathhouse, and the key

word here is state, that is, you don’t want to meet a young man, build a relationship with him, you want to be. a state of happiness, which is characterized for you by something of your own, yes, ah, a cozy fireplace, coziness, yes, coziness, a cozy fireplace, with some smells, your special ones, that’s the natal smell you have associated with christmas, shtolin, well, how it smells, well, it smells like a whole explosion of different spices, but well, i always have food it smells, really, this should be a separate program, like christmas, but no , of course, christmas is a lot of different delicious food, it’s the frost from which we came, it’s the night service, and i have coffee with cinnamon, mm, here exactly cinnamon, exactly the smell

of cinnamon, uh, i really love the smell of cinnamon, and uh, i really love the smell of baked pork, but for you, what about the smell of christmas? and next to him, you know, when i dreamed in my youth what kind of husband i would have, i dreamed that he would be very tall, slender, handsome, that’s what my dad was like, and my husband, he’s not tall, he so stocky, he is so dense,

well, that is, not at all, but next to him i feel a state of absolute happiness, and of course it happens in different ways, let’s not tell fairy tales, yes, but in general this state is like... reliability and confidence for me this is a state of happiness, and what do you want to feel with a man with whom you are ready to build a long-term relationship, calmness, security, it’s like behind a stone wall, so that i understand that if there is some kind of critical situation, i know that i can, that this man will protect me first of all, that ’s what this is my protector, you know, olesya, this is a very request to my father, yes, but what about my father?

so before it was completely unconscious, that is, as if i just now i, well, i connect these two events, yes, that is, as if after that, after he passed away, i began to analyze it. i began to somehow be aware of what was happening, that’s how our parents, even without being next to us in this life, help us to be happy or not, you had a close relationship with your dad, it was complicated, it was as if he was nearby, but i always missed him, was there an opportunity to ask my dad why we communicate so little or maybe...

very difficult, you know, i will allow myself to share my story here, and my dad, when i am with met him, said, we are again we haven’t talked to you about anything, and my dad has been gone for a long time, and i’m very sad that we never talked, i have this question, why didn’t we talk, dad, what is the answer to this? no, i don’t have an answer to this question, but based on this i know that i ’m talking to my children here now, i’m not putting it off. if i need to talk to them and clarify something, i do it here now, when i ask you the question

why dad was missing, maybe he also put it off, i thought about it now, that perhaps he put it off, but he never had time, yes, and this is a good reason to say, dad, thank you for the lesson, dad, and i won’t put it off, i’ll be happy here now. i will give birth to many children and i will talk to them all the time, without delaying even for a minute, yes, and my chosen one will be the one who will be the father who is enough for the children, yes ales, and you tried to find some similar signs in your relationship , when you left the relationship, every time it was absolutely different, absolutely, that is, it was as if everything always started differently and... from i had boyfriends and gentlemen from different spheres, but what

all my, let’s say, relationships always had in common was that when it came to understanding that we were going towards something serious, towards a family, towards, that is, a joint future, and i started to stop, that is, i stopped, i tried to interrupt this matter, sabotaged, well... the family, because suddenly something would happen, well, that is, my brain began to tell me stories about a large number of different fears, for example, i don’t know, he will get into an accident, there with him he will be gone, and i already have a child in my arms, and i cannot in any way raise this child, provide for him, and that is , this story dragged on, well, a thread developed. i was developing little by little and i understood that while i at least didn’t have some kind of support myself, yes, that i could

support myself if something happened and give something to the child, well, i can’t 100 %, let's say, trust the person with whom i am together, of course, our program format does not imply deep therapy, but you will notice attention to your general... faith in your father, because when you talk about the fact that something can happen to him, then the figure is male, it seems unreliable, but he can set him up at any moment, well, that is i can’t be confident in you, huh, and it’s as if you’re putting up this wall for yourself right here, that you will definitely betray me, you can die at any moment when i ’m not ready for this, and i think that here you find yourself in some kind of... your own story, and of course, you need to pay special attention here

on how the relationship between your parents would have been built, yeah, did mom and dad trust it, well , or rather, it’s not mom and dad, but the man and woman you grew up next to, yeah, and the behavior model that you absorbed with milk mother, that as they say, yes, so if alesya discovers that mom didn’t trust dad and then olesya will turn to... a good psychologist, and this is the place where you can, it won’t take much time, but allow yourself to trust a man, to be allowed to see the same person in him. like myself, i trust myself, i can trust you, yeah, at the same time, many psychologists believe that this feeling of trust is formed in a child up to a year old, so these can be some things that are not even obvious, by the way, if you look at other episodes of the psychics podcast on the channel one website, you will see more than once , how our childhood traumas are not at all

obvious to such external analysis.

50 years ago i came into the world, and of course i have to ask who you are, but i know your birthday is a thing of the past, regrets, this is a bouquet of russia, you could have come from here many times to leave, i know how many theaters invited you, but you stayed, because she kissed him so tenderly, somehow we parted ways.

on december 31, on the first, this is a psyche podcast , where i, journalist natalya loseva and family psychologist ekaterina sivanova figure out together with our heroine olesya, what can she change in her approach to annual new year’s resolutions, are there any correct methods, some correct ones? a promise to yourself, i don’t know, some kind of self-programming, self-hypnosis that you can advise us so that we can teach ourselves, i don’t know, take a walk every day, walk at least a certain number of steps there, but cook healthy food, buy yourself a new dress without waiting for us to lose weight, regularly, for example, about a new dress, and this

could be a solution, which i or you yes. implement in the coming or coming year, it doesn’t matter the birthday, in general, it doesn’t matter what period we chose, buy yourself a beautiful dress every month, listen, you can go broke every month, why , well, stop it, okay, every month they buy you a beautiful one, what's the problem, she now she’ll write to herself, you see, she’s a systematic girl, every year she makes new promises to you and also systematically doesn’t fulfill them, then you need to ask yourself the question, why don’t i buy myself a beautiful one... so i promised myself, so die, but do it when there is no person of interest , that promise sounded just like a threat, but the state of happiness that we are talking about is still very much about our emotions, about our

feelings, it is about how we feel from our unloved inner child , yes, that is, this is it... this is the very thing and, as it were, which is the paradox that it would seem that i really love to look beautiful, i really like to dress up, i really like beautiful dresses, but nevertheless i put them off for myself until i lose weight and put off losing weight, and when you look beautiful, what do you get , pleasure primarily from the reflection in the mirror, but that is, you... now you are talking about the fact that you forbid yourself to have pleasure, yes, olesya, who gets pleasure, why is she so bad, i don’t know, very fast answer. but you will feel it now, that is, it was somewhere, yes, you guessed it, but you don’t feel it, and it would be really good to feel it, why i forbid myself

to have pleasure, and why i forbid myself to be happy, as if, if this starts to happen now, you will become bad for someone, as if you were good a woman, she cannot rejoice, she must work all the time, well, yes, work and suffer. childhood, and what kind of person was my mother, always tense, why? well, it was a hard, poor time, but i understand correctly that

if you don’t stop straining, then you will be a bad daughter for your mother, not i know, i don’t know, but as a child you allowed yourself to just do nothing for 2 hours, well , you probably always had to do something, well, i loved it myself. in fact, clubs, music school, dancing, i went somewhere all the time, i was interested, that’s it, but i really don’t remember myself sitting straight on the couch and doing nothing, i don’t remember that, but how did your parents react if or would they react if they saw that you were sitting, sitting, doing nothing, well , they would say yes, that you are sitting idle, wash the dishes, go wash the dishes, you’ll be good, uh-huh, did you get to the bottom of it? yes , and here it is very important to pay attention that you cannot sit idle, because again this is the history of our country, and it is always very about high

anxiety, you get undeserved pleasure, yes, yes, yes, in honor of what did you go and buy yourself dress, they gave you a bonus, you worked at three rates, maybe how deep it all is, it turns out, yes, this happens to all of us. and the story about being happy here now and allowing yourself happiness next to a man, i think it there, that’s how it is, here, you know, it’s very useful to look at your mom and dad, thank them, yes, say, thank you, i ’ll take from you this, this and this, this, this and this, i’ll do it to another, then there will be life. continue, i also take this, but how to do it, how you don’t need to do it, yes, it’s better to do it the way you want, allow yourself to feel, allow yourself, today after our meeting,

to go and just please yourself, i’ll go buy this dress 100 %, today hurray, hurray, i would like to be with you, you know what else is in the final discuss, look, in theory everything is clear, yes, you are working through these childhood fears of yours, working through the ban on pleasure. you are working through the ban on the fact that a good life still needs to be earned, and preferably so with evidence, all this needs to be removed to remain so, you know, naked, clean in complete trust in the whole world, to accept everything that this world sends with gratitude, but you you will be very defenseless, because no one guarantees you that today, having become so trusting, having become so know, open and joyful, you won't get it. in the head, and not even from the back, you are guaranteed to get it, well, that’s why it is closing, of course,

life is not an easy thing, but listen, we told you here today that we are adults, yes, and we know , that we already have experience that we know how to cope, well, is there anything that we cannot cope with, and you also know, it seems to me that we... can teach each other this trust, this some kind of acceptance, unconditional, that is, when you are accepted, you can be who you are, you can even mess up, do something wrong, make a mistake somehow, well, you will understand, but you will know that you will be accepted, well, yes, because we, we are not flawless, giving, giving people the right to make mistakes is of course, but here you know, it’s very useful, as they say , to start with yourself, yeah, and so let’s start with the imperfect ones... accept those who, well, maybe haven’t lost enough weight yet, but maybe another one has appeared wrinkle, thank god, didn’t wash the dishes at

night. let's not wash the dishes at night, i intend, yes, to allow myself to live, that’s what ’s important. well, oles, how do you feel after our conversation? and there was an understanding of many things, why this happens, i generally came here with a request to understand why. and today, thank you very much, thanks to you, i now understand what the reason is. such definite steps have been outlined, for example, with the purchase of a dress, after all, yes, how to deal with this, because i think that this is still a definite path that will need to be taken, they have probably appeared some internal strength to try to realize, and to start living this task after all, today.

try to approve of yourself, yeah, just live , thank you, well, friends, this was the new year's episode of the psyche podcast, in which we talked about how to be happy unconditionally in the coming year, without any restrictions, without any claims to yourself, then definitely everything you have planned, if it is useful and good for you, will of course come true, in a year we will definitely be convinced of this. hello, i'm still dmitry bak, we are about to have another episode of a literary podcast, let them not talk, let them read, in our episodes , of course, we talk, we talk a lot, but only

so that... so that you, our respected interlocutors, read as much as possible, so that your reading was as diverse as possible, we speak with very different interlocutors, we have very different guests, these are writers, these are those who professionally judge literature and very often we call high professionals who work in areas that are more or less connected with literature, however, which in russia is not connected with literature, absolutely everything, including museum work, is our guest today... the director of the state museum of fine arts named after alexander sergeevich pushkin, elizaveta stanislovna likhacheva. hello lisa, hello! let’s be like we are in life, as it usually happens in our podcast, let’s start straight from the path to the profession. very often in your biography, in official or non-official ones , it is emphasized that you are an art critic, this is so, no one doubts it, but here art criticism or art history.

i have a passion for art, that is , i like something, i don’t like something , yeah, but usually, when i voice them, they tell me, well, how’s the director of the pushkinsky, well , i don’t like picasso, i have there are some things that i really like, architects there, whom i really love, or artists there , whom i really love, like fragonard or the same mathis, yeah, but there are things that i don’t like, that’s normal, but in general, for me art history is a conscious a choice made by an adult in adulthood is a choice that is largely contrary. academy of arts in st. petersburg and he said that you should study art as late as possible, preferably after thirty, because only then do you begin to understand at least something, yeah,

but i’m being honest. i must admit, i was convinced that he was right from personal experience, despite the fact that i actually grew up in an environment where my mother is an art critic, horror, my daughter, that’s why at the age of 17 everyone thought that you should, yes, everyone thought , that i spent a dynasty, but for me in general. i didn't want to at all. say please, now i’ll cling to this thought again, picasso , whom i love very much, and very different ones, but most of all the twenties, thirties, then after all, a little before, well, no, not so beautiful pink, there’s blue, but that’s all -the avennon maidens, then the metamorphosis of the bull, that’s all, that’s the most important thing for me. tell me, please, do you have such examples when i don’t love, but the great? picasso. picasso is wonderful. guernica is shining so brightly for me, guernica, yes, it’s a great thing, well, not only that, i’m in front of it, well unfortunately, i haven’t seen this particular one alive, i’ve seen guernica, and when i came to the reina sofia museum in madrid and i saw it, well, yes, it made

a strong impression on me, but of course, for example, what is the strongest impression, but i don’t love, when i love - what an impression it is, when i love, it’s not some kind of internal experience, first of all. after the middle ages michelangelo raden moore and from this from this line there is a wonderful parallel, but i don’t cast it, i perceive it as a discovery, but many are different to me they ask why bernini is left out, well , because gian loorenze bernini, with all his skill, did not

put anything new into culture, but michelangelo determined the path of development, michelangelo became the father of a new, new type of plastic language, raden translated this collation plastic language into a new one for its time, cupid. but showed the whole world that sculpture can be different, i always brought it together, i’m not a professional, of course, but i brought picasso and imura together, nevertheless, yes, the desire to see the volume, to see outline, free from meat, relatively speaking , what is in it, yes, but moore, i saw moore several times in different forms, i saw his drawings, and my first acquaintance with moore took place already at a fairly adult age, probably i was there for about 25 years when i first saw moore's work. what is called a sorel and not a casting, exactly what he made with his hands, uh-huh, it made some kind of colossal impression on me, i began to wonder who he was, i realized that this was probably a gap in my education, and after that i started digging, when

i got to the tate, there were three halls in the tate, mura, yes, yes, yes, i know and love it too, i understood why, why, he disembodies the material for the sculpture, he goes to. .. he clearly observes the volume, color and proportion of the sculpture, understanding very well at what moment something needs to be removed, at what moment it needs to be added, you formulate it perfectly, i didn’t think about it, indeed many things seem to be very massive, yes in appearance, but the fact that

they are light is very accurately said, that is , this whole sculpture of the 20th century, it is in many ways i owe it to moore, i remembered this line, which means michelangelo, who, by the way, also removed the unnecessary, in a different sense, of course, michelangelos with the material, but michelangelo is a fantastic artist, for me michelangelo is, i don’t know, like tchaikovsky’s music, probably yes, something that you can listen to endlessly, or some shakespeare, for example, yes, or aleksandrevich pushkin, now we’ve already gone straight to it, we’ve moved on, which you can endlessly re-read, but what do you like from pushkin? i love everything about pushkin , you love everything, everyone says there is no truth on earth, but there is no truth higher, for me all this is clear, like a simple scale, i was born with a love of art, well, it doesn’t matter.

pushkin still or already? this is a very subtle joke, i really liked it at the time, you know, this is the man he became for me. to those who formulated the culture

to which i consider myself, yeah, that’s exactly what alexander sergeevich pushkin did, this is the man who united everything, ancient russia, and the pride of antiquity, cherished traditions, yes, as another, no less great russian said poet, yes, yes, and therefore absolute modernity, and pushkin, and him, well, it’s as if it’s impossible to cancel the sun, you may not love him, nothing at all can be canceled, we understand, here’s alexander sergeevich, this is very accurate. a very clear definition, known to us all from childhood, the sun of russian poetry, i would say more broadly, the sun of russian culture, he formulated the russian man, formulated him in literary language, he gave more than just literary language, i just want to shut up, this is dostoevsky speaking pushkin’s speech that pushkin is the most russian, relatively speaking, he is russian as such, and pushkin himself, pushkin himself being an abesinian, himself, yes, the very figure of pushkin is the embodiment of what a russian person is, i recently found myself here.

into the kaleidoscope of the captain's daughter, the fact is that a very good friend of mine invited me to the premiere in vologda, to the premiere of the local theater, we watched them the captain's daughter, which means that before we went to the theater, we went to the local museum, and there was an exhibition of an orenburg down scarf, unexpectedly, i even know from which museum, but everything would have been fine, but exactly 3 days after these days i went to orenburg to open an exhibition , which, that is, for me... the circle is closed in orenburg, i’m a captain’s daughter, and completely unexpectedly, while i was driving back from vologda , the ticket was a very bad day train , while we were driving there, i re-read it in 2 hours when i read it, i thought, look, well, even if he had written the captain’s daughter in your history, i think so, and godunov’s barberry and proma there, you take any of his things , that’s already enough dude, and the stationmaster, wow, there’s just nothing more need him completely.

fantastic, of course, the language, i thought it would be much worse , you are the subject of my professional pride, what happened, you are different, of course, such a man, such a man who doesn’t want, everyone wants, but not everyone will get it, doctor preobrazhensky, tomorrow, after the program, besons are running among the pompas, where sunsets are like blood over the baobababs, after spring, will the dawn come earlier, and for two happy people for many, many years, we don’t care, we don’t care, let us be afraid of the wolf and of course, suddenly, like in a fairy tale, the door creaked, everything has become clear to me now, help me, help

me, it’s not bad to have swifts, but on the other hand, it’s very bad, the january wilga is swinging, or the elastic is flying in them, a film concert for the centenary of leonid gaidai. but it was said later that pushkin’s stories are somehow bare , that is, there are no decorations, everything is straight to the point, you know, i once had a story, i was with a friend, it means we were sitting in a bar, we were sitting in a bar and after such a monster in sollera, the dramatic denouement of one of the love stories, it means that we discussed that all men are assholes. and we, in the process of discussion , we began to discuss the evolution of the main character

of european literature of this moment in more detail, it means from dante to carual and so we walked there walked walked walked reached the evge between michelangelo and moore i understood the lyrical hero of dante the lyrical hero of petrarch so we missed almost 150 years we reached ... we discussed maliere with his endless menzelochkas, and then we kind of had a love affair, but lavse all this, all this or lavisha as. yes, but she got stuck in russian, russian, further, well, our seven-favorite , here i am on this, when we reached the cities, you heard this a long time ago, our dear friends, how can you not love, everyone all all 16 flew the city of prejudice, now we reached the point of pride, here i i thought, it’s interesting that alexander sergeevich read pride and

prejudice, because the plot of the novel is suspiciously reminiscent of the plot of his novel, suspiciously reminiscent of the plot of pride and prejudice. cared about this issue, he could, because the first edition of the city works - this is the ninety-fifth year, in my opinion, the second, this is the end of the 18th century, and it was probably in russian libraries, she was a popular writer and yes, most likely yes, in chisinau, he read it, i think pushkinists can take this is for service, everything went wrong for us, in fact, very much so, because i wanted to ask you, were there any special courses in literature at this legendary department? art history was in the history department but was not in the history department, well, you know, i’m a bookish child, i grew up in history, in a situation without tv, i simply didn’t have one, or rather, i did have one, but it worked more like furniture, i ’m a bookish child, i read avidly, i read everything , i read quickly, i remember, books should be at home for this, yes, yes i have there were books at home, i was also enrolled in all

the regional libraries, which gave me books to take home, plus at some point i signed up for the central children's library on oktyabrskaya, yeah, i read everything, i'm just sweet... oh well it is clear that there was a gentleman’s set of a soviet schoolchild, and kananda, agatha christie, dafoe, dumas, yes, yes, kavirin, mainrith, that means fennimer cooper, that’s all, but besides this, since all this literature, as a rule, is written in generally quite simple language, and is read very quickly, i read belkin’s stories for the first time, i was probably about 12 years old, then i discovered mikhailovich levmutov, poetry or not prose. “i learned poems by heart, i still have this stupid habit, i just learned or memorized, but remembered some immediately, i easily remember the elements, but something for me i liked it, i taught, i directly taught evgeny anegin, do you remember anything, well, at least i remember, i remember the first 13 stanzas, before the stanza, we all learned a little, something,

somehow, so education, thank god, that’s up to this stanza, yes, but negen, in the opinion of many of his own, decisively, there is the most important thing at the end of the first chapter, yes, holy is the love of the village , the idleness of the fields." devoted to you with my soul, i am always glad to notice the difference between anegin and me, this is it. i am his i read it several times and at some point i realized that it was easier for me to learn it. i learned it now, because i i haven’t re-read it for a long time, probably three years ago, because for me, uh, reading it is like not reading on the subway, i can’t read it, it’s also an absolute text, yes, just absolute, you don’t need anything else either, it’s absolutely a text , quite curious, i read an interview with chirac, who translated it into french, yeah. told me how difficult it was for him to follow the aneguen verse when translating into french, but this size is exactly the size and the size of 14 lines of abba, but that’s all, that was difficult, the second story, i’m on i actually recommend doing this, a few years ago a new translation of evgeny anegin

into english was published and stephen fry read it, even if you don’t speak english, but know the russian text,