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christmas trees appeared, you had to believe in a miracle, you had to, yes, yes, of course, that’s why this figure is not so simple, a lot has been written about this, but there is christ for the boy on dostoevsky’s christmas tree, but there is a very clear religious subtext, there is a cycle of christmas trees in leskov’s stories, there is no santa claus, he appears later, that’s what we’re talking about, what i like about the film is that very different contexts are picked up here.
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that baba frost helps when a person believes in her, and santa claus helps when children believe, children believe endlessly, adults need push, we need to help, because adults are leaving this world, they consider it wrong, where are the living heroes of fairy tales, in fact, the child’s world of a child is righteous, yes it is the most correct, but of course, we will be like children, the kingdom of heaven will fight, it is said in the sermon on the mount, you know , when you take a tangerine, i haven’t seen it.
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she appears, this is a very logical, clear continuation, but such a closure, the girl has no parents, no parents, yes, grandmothers, but nevertheless grandfather, they went to earn money somewhere, probably, probably, that’s all business, there the story begins from the fact that the grandfather did not see that his beloved was wasting away, that is, we all need to watch carefully, adults and children, yeah, then we...
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played this endless love, she played and with her faith lit up her older sister, mom loves us very much and does everything for us, she is a very good actress, it’s just that no one helps her, not even you, just don’t cry, but i gave up, well, because it’s bullshit, but it doesn’t happen that way, that i just took it and believed it, but what’s wrong? difficult if you...
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truly love baba frost, damn it, well go to your stupid party, just like that, okay, come on, what should you do there? but it is important that another grandmother also played a role here, yes, because she, this is a film, she was my wife, like this, yes, there is another grandmother, i am marina yakovleva in this film, who is yakovleva, marina yakovleva, marina yakovleva played my wife in one of the films, tatyana orlova played my ex-wife 13 years ago, that is, this continues some kind of your past story. otherwise, that is, you also
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think that this is probably a miracle, that you came together in this film, yes, it continues what happened before, of course, it was unexpected, no, it’s a miracle that everyone... just fell into this story, that’s exactly what i’m talking about, a miracle happened so that everyone ended up in this in this story, tell me, your heroine is happy in the end, yes, she gets what she wanted, yes, of course, of course, in the end everything glows, everything glows, yes, but for a given period of time, what is this , what is called, as they say now, the project with this is completed, that she successfully carried out this whole story, the power is melting, the power is, yes, yes, because it doesn’t go out...
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it came from somewhere out of space, through this man, the finale, the finale, there are amazing things there, when santa claus and baba frost are sitting, and there is a partnership, only in partnership will we be happy, and not that the woman will help you, and you are, as it were, in charge, or she is in charge, and he helps, only as a partner, that is, in essence, this is a film about equal rights, of course, yes, then your hero behaves very subtly, he cares about his wife.
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what a blessing it is to have such a sister, yes, look here, also family values, what guys, don’t break away, help each other , take care, i don’t know, i liked the film, no, i really liked it too, tatyana, well , this is probably also a film about female power, yes, after all - it’s free to fulfill the wishes of children who they believe so, to force adults or to encourage them to believe in miracles, this is the most difficult task, no, that is, the power comes through polina, of course, through the poly child, through the child, but the future woman, of course, if she is already so strong in childhood, then you can imagine what she will be like when she’s an adult, well, yes, polina, but here i’m like since i’m helping just all these changes, all these new images appearing next to
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the heroine, it’s just to help her a little, direct her to stebunov a little, how important it is for someone to help and push her a little , too. slightly imperceptibly, namely , so that they, and you know, i’m not a resident of moscow, yes, i am, yes, i’m from st. petersburg, well, you’re actually santa claus, yes, but i want to tell you, when in the film, uh, bogatyrev showed this colorful new year’s moscow, i suddenly thought, lord, why don’t i live here, you know, this is such beauty, this is suddenly someone will say, well, st. petersburg is no worse. yes, yes, yes, this happens quite rarely, they usually love st. petersburg, they say that it is the cultural capital, and you amaze moscow, it’s so nice, so nice, but the leningraders don’t or st. petersburg, why does he love it, but they modestly
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do it, and muscovites love bright colors, look at how she looks in the film, well, i’m telling the truth, when i saw it, in the finale, of course, it’s very beautiful there, it’s amazing, you could say a christmas tree was born in the forest, no, no, no, i don’t know anything i'm waiting for you, what are you, i'm just saying it right, it's a dark song, that's it this one is about santa claus, catchy , this is just such a movement, so, we have a literary podcast, let them not talk, let them read,
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today we are talking about a wonderful new year's film called baba frost and the secret of the new year, and we are talking with the actors, who are participating in this film, they even wrote it, well, for me, roughly speaking
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, all these stories with these new year trees, these corporate affairs, where the actors visit all kinds of houses, all kinds of families, i went through it, then for several years in a row we had all this with our partner, so this is how i celebrated the last holidays, well, for quite a long time, i just got out of this circle, that is, it took a movie, yes, that is , a movie, well, yes, apparently , this whole story somehow came full circle, i now i hope that i will meet him only with his family and close people, but where it doesn’t matter at all, even under a christmas tree in a snowdrift with tangerines, you know, it will be a big disappointment, but this outfit suits you so well, everything is so organic, i’ll think, okay, and you also prefer to step out of the role of santa claus and you, tatyana, from the role of baba frost, or should you still stay in it, she... did this role become yours or is it just a job, another job that ended with the movie? no, this
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is of course an important stage in life, of course, i’m just happy that we have baba frost, and i’m happy that i stood next to the wonderful actress tatyana orlova, it was fate that fell in there, we didn’t insist that we were a grandfather frost and baba frost, well, yes, we already said that it was a miracle, it happened that way, that’s what denis said, we didn’t play. at some point we were, well, probably the highest degree of skill, no , when you don’t have to play, when everything works out, they give you, this is trust, the trust of the same andrei bogatyrev, he had no questions, he came right away, love, we were filming, there was no snow there, i i think how he will film, he was filming poor, without snow, everything worked out when we came to the house, this is the house of father frost and woman frost. there, well, how can i say , they trusted you, be so kind, it’s clear, but you
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had something similar in your life before the movie, denis had it, and that is, you were also grandfathers frost, how many times, i once quarreled, i was in a social kindergarten, there came people who were rich, who wanted their own children, suddenly they took out some toys, and they gave the social ones a tangerine. chocolate, i cried , and i refused to give gifts, i was hysterical, and i said: bring one at a time and i will, because this should not be this social justice, everyone should receive the same gifts, if it’s a personal gift , somewhere at home, yes please, but if it is in society, everyone should getting a chocolate bar each from a tangerine is great, then everyone will be happy, tatyana, was it happiness for you, too, to still star in this film? yes, yes, what i said, yes, this , this is a miracle, of course, when i read the script,
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i came to the casting, i, and i left, and i didn’t think about it, because, but i liked the story and theme, but it worked out, so it turned out, i don’t know, it’s not for me to judge, and what, of course, was later approved, this, this was it, well, it’s just something, i have to, it’s coolly written, coolly invented, myself, not great. i really liked it, there was a very large casting, and i won’t name the number of actresses who were all worthy, but it seems to me that casting exists for this purpose, to choose the best, from this we conclude that tatyana was the best and is better will be better, well, this is certainly the best, no, incorrect formulation, it seems to me, not better, probably, individually falling into what was imagined. we don’t know what she is, of course, she appeared, and now, of course, it’s her, well, i
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it seems that baba frost has never happened , whether it will happen, we don’t know, but you definitely hit the target, but it’s thanks to the producers, director, screenwriters that here they are together, what they imagined, and what got into my personality , you know, if they had imagined someone else, then there would have been some other actress, but this is what i call, of course, this is a miracle, this is something altogether. fantastic, of course, i didn’t expect this, when all of a sudden, you are approved, i’m straight, it’s cool, and you were wonderful in this role. there is no doubt at all about you also had miracles in your life, i told you, in my life this is a miracle, this was when you wait, when you like it, but no, you don’t have to go there, think, worry, i did my job, i tried that’s it, and then here it is, there is this miracle, they suddenly claim that of course it wasn’t, this is a miracle, this is what happened in my life,
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that because this is how you celebrate the new year, usually everyone has already been told , that... it’s convenient and comfortable, you don’t have to cook anything at home, i went out and watched the performance, then i went to a restaurant, celebrated the new year and came home, excuse me, of the four of you, i... have been practicing this for several years, i stopped playing santa claus, i give up everything, and my wife, because well, she’s been there for 5 years after a stroke, i take her to the theater and we go , and then to a restaurant, we don’t go to a restaurant , at home, a minimum of food, a few salads, that’s all, tell me, did you have any cases when
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you played the role of the snow maiden or participated, no, what a snow maiden, well, take it. performances were like, what a snow maiden, what are these children, well, with my voice, with my, well of course, it’s possible, why , no one even suggested that i should ever be a snow maiden, what are you talking about, snow maiden, hello, children, i’m a snow maiden, what are you talking about, i mean, baba frost is a snow maiden - it’s still completely different, no, well, well, actually, between grandma and...
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i’m just, i’m sorry, proposals, this is a podcast of proposals, listen, dear interlocutors, we saw how many meanings this film has absorbed, how comprehensive it is, what he is important, how magical he is, we were inside the film, now we started talking about our life, our life continues, and as always at the end of our conversation, i tell you, read with pleasure, and today i am also adding this phrase with watch a movie, believe in miracles! hello! this is a podcast of witnesses from einstein, where we, film historians natalya ryabchikova and
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stanislav didinsky, talk about who and how created classic, cult, and beloved ones. little-known and forgotten soviet films, we reveal the secrets of film archives and tell you how to watch soviet cinema now, how to find new meanings in it and have even more fun. today we have an unusual episode, we will talk about new year's films, new year's films and cartoons, about how this tradition developed and what it means to us. let's try to start from the very beginning, what was at the beginning, when all this appeared? well, if we talk about... russia, about the russian empire, all this appeared, of course, almost simultaneously with the advent of cinema in russia, because the first cartoon, namely a cartoon, a three-dimensional puppet cartoon was released in 1912, more precisely, at the end of 1912, they watched it for quite a long time in the russian empire, this is a cartoon by vladislav starevich, the father of russian
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animation, and christmas, the inhabitants of the forest. the year 12 , 1912, is considered the year of the birth of russian animation, which recently celebrated its 100th anniversary, we have a fragment from this cartoon, we can watch it.
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of course, it’s hard to recognize santa claus here, yes, he’s some kind of old man, a doll of an old man with a beard in a jacket, but nevertheless, it’s him, and this cartoon continues the tradition christmas story, which were published every year in literary magazines. he transfers it to the cinema, but it should be noted that of course, this is not new year, this is christmas, this is father christmas, but he already comes to us with some familiar attributes, where there is father christmas or father frost, there is also a christmas tree, there are toys there, and there are some adventures there. and there is a christmas for the inhabitants of the forest, which consists of the fact that santa claus gets off the tree at christmas, and comes to the forest, then dancing begins with gifts of frogs, with insects
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with beetles, which were the main signature card of the storyteller, who was called the zhik trainer, because he so skillfully brought to life insect dolls on the screen that everyone thought that he was really training real insects, but this was, of course, the skill of the director - animator, we think... that animation is something for children, but at the very beginning animation is for everyone, and the same thing, some fantasy films, fairy tales that starevich shot using the technique of, well, an ordinary feature film with the living actors, indeed starevich is not only the founder of russian animation, but also the founder of feature films, on this topic, in particular, he made at least two films that have survived, about which we can definitely say that they probably have something to do with the new year, more precisely for christmas, this is the night before christmas , the snow maiden, that is, in one we have some fantastic events, this is also an important part of the new year's film, an adaptation
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of gogol, in the other we have the snow maiden, we have cold, winter and some drama, here same there are several, it seems to me, elements that later make up our familiar new year’s film, but what happens then, huh? in the twenties we don’t see anything about the new year and christmas, of course, what kind of christmas could there be in the twenties, when the soviet union was updating old rituals, abandoning the old ones, new ones had not yet been invented, but there are some elements, for example, cartoon soviet toys, there is also a christmas tree, this is a cartoon that was made in the early twenties by the degoverts, a future classic soviet documentaries, there is a connection between the city village, as they would say,
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the end of last year and the beginning of the next, somehow officially, in the third year, in fact, officially this new year’s celebration begins again, but the cinema at first does not fit into it, it fits in again animation, in the thirty-seventh year the first cartoon by the wonderful director-animator olga khadotaeva, called santa claus and the gray wolf, was released. the wolf will be the main antagonist in soviet animation.
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yet, of course, he doesn’t wear the ones we’re used to features, and of course, of course, it is not red and white, as in the foreign tradition, where it also acquires its canonical image of santa claus only with the advent of the popular carbonated drink. yes, in 1948 the first cartoon appeared, where santa claus was already in color in the form we are familiar with, starting in the late forties. a series of cartoons appears where the action takes place in one way or another - in winter, on new year's eve, around new year, around gifts, around the christmas tree, for example, a fairy tale of 12 months, well, there is no
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santa claus. yes, but there is winter there, there is brothers of the month, there are travels, there are adventures, there is some kind of problem that is being solved and well, you said that animation really appears only in the russian empire, it is not yet intended for children, in general it is intended somewhere in the world for children, this is a stunt film, in the soviet union in the late twenties they realized that they probably needed animation from the production of propaganda short videos or from advertising videos that were shown before the start of a film show. use it for some better cause, then we have to start filming it, targeting it for children, pull them out from under the influence of foreign cinema, from the influence of gary pill, douglas ferbgans and other stars of the foreign screen and start instilling in them a love for soviet animation and so gradually and to traditions, and the fairy tale is gradually returning on the screen, in the twenties she was expelled from literature, chukovsky was in an apali,
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about which she was indignant... comrade nadezhda krupskaya, well, in general, animation is gradually becoming children's again, quite a lot of films for children are appearing to remind them, that animation is something fabulous, something magical, always, of course, these basic elements, a miracle, hope for the best in the new year, all this appears there, and of course, this is not television yet, yes, this is all, of course , and repertory cinema, it is shown, as a rule, at special children's screenings, as... it was before the revolution, and filmmakers who deal with feature cinema, not animated, not drawn, not with puppetry, come to, maybe be, awareness, feeling that the audience i would like to see something so fabulous, phantasmagogorical and associated with the new year only in the mid-fifties, when our main classic actually came out, well, when it came out, it was not a classic naturally, one of, in general, an idea.
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director, debutant will later become big and nothing more, no one expected him to be the biggest in soviet directing, we don’t even call this film, it’s clear what kind of film we’re talking about, but 5 minutes, 5 minutes, of course, this is a carnival night that became well , simply incredible success and extremely unexpected success and also thanks to this song we have “i’ll sing you a song about 5 minutes, let them drown this song, let it fly to the light, i give you a song, this song about five minutes, 5 minutes, 5 minutes, the clock will sound soon, 5 minutes, 5 minutes, make peace with those who are in conflict. 5 minutes, 5 minutes,
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figure it out, strictly speaking, even in these 5 minutes you can do a lot, 5 minutes, 5 minutes, the clock will strike soon, have mercy on those who are in disarray, it’s 12:00 on the clock, the new year is probably already on its way, it will end with us in full in progress, we will soon say happy new year at 12:5,
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this is a comedy that has been awaited for a long time, because , as ivan piryev said, who in those years was the head of mosfilm, who was already a classic of soviet cinema, the author of numerous comedies that were released in the thirties, musical comedies, musical comedies, comedy is the most difficult, most fired upon genre, so he said at a meeting of the artistic council of musfilm, that we have always suffered for this genre, that we are already tired of being fired upon, that we're filming films for one or two people, yes... who watch this film on some kind for the authorities, yes, yes, of course, it was for we want, yes, and this was an attempt to make a truly universal film that the entire soviet audience would love and watch will be released towards the end of the year , on new year’s eve, and naturally, of course, a very conventional theme was chosen, well, what ’s going on on a carnival night, the boss goes on a business trip, and instead of him they appoint
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some... well, his deputy, who i just have to make sure everything is going well it’s good that the new year will be celebrated the way it was intended to be under a good boss, and he, due to his diligence, which he was accustomed to in the previous... decade, began to implement this quite literally, that is, to prohibit, suppress, bureaucratize it all , of course, and the new generation of soviet people, this is a thaw movie, in fact, in fact , the thaw era in the soviet union opened with a carnival night, and not with a film from the ilich marlin khutsyev outpost there, as it sometimes seems to us, this is all a new attitude to life, yes initiative, let's do something that has never happened, let's not have it. reports for the new year or some kind of strange quizzes, when in one of the first versions of the carnival night scenario, agurtsov offered a quiz, forfeits, political
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pans, it was called, let's pull out of the pan, out of the cap, pieces of paper with questions on pressing socio-political topics everything such things right away, my god, well, an endless fumbling, that’s all, of course then... these things left the script, it became more universal, less topical in some moments , so it fell in love with, in fact, all the viewers and became a comedy for all times, we recognize these types, cucumbers, played superbly by igor ilinsky, and partly reminds us of another character, the head of the collective farm, comrade byvalov, do you remember this , yes, but there was no new year there, there was no new year, but there was a type, yes, there was a type, and these cubes would be cut.
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theaters were already starting to sing about it, they wrote to the studio about it, they wrote about it in the state cinema, that is, we know that this is really a phenomenon people's love, but still, at the turn of the fifties and sixties , television appeared, which was quite widespread,
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blue lights appeared, so i wanted to say about this that what we see in a carnival night, we see a typical benzene scene of any soviet blue light, a hall, in which there are tables, between which people walk... a singer, a singer, performs some kind of song, well, that is, rather new year's and other blue lights on television, including turning to this film as a model, yes, but not others was, it’s interesting that the first new year’s light on television appeared in sixty-three and was made by a man who, a couple of years earlier, could have become our andrei torkovsky, it was a student, a former student in geekery, eduard obalov, who started the film ivanovo’s childhood, but ... he was an excellent student , a khakhmach, and very talented , he did not cope with this film, but he coped with the blue light, it begins - constant, wow, already accustoming the viewer to the fact that -
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december 31 - on the night of january 1 you have the opportunity to watch a concert, laugh, relax, see your favorite heroes, not only, of course, actors,

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