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how did this transition of sergei porajanov to a new aesthetics happen? well, it seems to me personally that - that he took some kind of path of his own, and walked along it, this is the most important thing, that in all these films he did not betray himself, this is the first, second, for some reason it seems to me, that he, like andrei arsenievich torkovsky, yes, they all went contrary to those patterns, those dogmas, which, accordingly, they ...
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for me these are parables, this is the first, second, he had a friend, a wonderful friend, a very famous architect in bilis, which built a wedding palace, so he said that he was afraid when he parajanov came to his house, because he changed all the furniture all the time, he not only did not allow this furniture to remain the same for at least one day, i it seems that the same thing happened in his films, in life he was simply an actor, all the people who came to his home, it was a theater, this theater was parajanov, we would have called it a salon before, but it was a theater, and accordingly, all the people who were present were actors, even the court, which was in tbilisi in 1982 , he turned it into a theater, he asked the people 's judges, who were sitting there, to dress differently, he gave them some roles and so on, and even the guards were offended that he did not give any role .
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as it were, which you can watch without knowing where it is happening, geographical reference, national connection and so on, so it seems to me that this is a universal cinema, a universal film language, film painting, which , in general, on the one hand, seems to not for everyone, but interests everyone, that’s the paradox arises, we can watch a fragment from the finale of the shadows of forgotten ancestors, just to see: how it could have looked then in the mid-sixties, not only in the soviet union, but let’s say in france.
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suddenly, in the mid-sixties , the film comes out abroad, the film is shown at various festivals, and isn’t it from there, isn’t it from this time that the interest of, say, tanin guera in parajano is already growing, or did it happen a little later, tanin guera actually turned out to be . in moscow, and accordingly, they generally learned about him, it all really started with his, since the parajanov arrests, the first arrest was in kiev, which took place, the second was already in tbilisia, with all these liberations, that ’s how guera was involved in this movement for the liberation of the parjanovs, but guera, of course, was interested in him, he understood that this is an artist who should not be behind bars, that was the main thing. what he
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convinced, accordingly, the leaders of our cinema, he convinced the leaders of the republics, in particular, he met with the same shivardnadze in eighty-two, and he convinced. how paradoxical it is, yes , so he helped out parajanov and, but they became close again, they became close on the basis of the fact that they were both artists, one seemed to be a famous screenwriter, the second a director, yes, but they became close precisely as artists, that’s the same apple , why an apple, because by the way taninagura made furniture, here is the furniture that even stands in his moscow apartment, when i talked with him, this furniture always contains the image of an apple. just as the image of a pomegranate accompanies, which means parajanov, this now it has become, well, i don’t know , a proverb and even a cliche, yes a cliche - this is the real thing, as they say, these people, they felt each other in the sense that they felt like, well, half a word,
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half a gesture, because they artists and they enriched each other, it seems to me personally; by the way, few people know that tanina guera wrote an entire novel dedicated to parojan. parajanov is depicted there, it turns out it was impossible, then in italy to name the names of soviet citizens, agadzhanyan, he was there, tannin aguera, he admired the fact that padzhanov preserved himself, despite these camp terms there, as an artist he preserved himself, and he was creatively charged until the end of his days, we developed the correct posture, a diagnosis of posture. chemistry of food, when , how much for whom, fiber, we read the analyses, what is dedimer, the program to live healthy, helps everyone, tomorrow is the first, ready, yes, i think
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that movies only show love stories, in war films, we are talking about love guy to arms, gangster. and the new wave brought love for cinema, without love there are no films, he is a child of the cinema, he himself says that he grew up in the cinema museum in paris, he knows the role of watching old films, films are not good enough for the audience, but the audience is often not good enough for the films, they say that people do not understand my films , so what about me?
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i am film historian stanislav didinsky and film historian my colleague natalya ryabchikova. today we are talking about the centenary of the director and artist sergei parajanov. why were you interested in the figure of parajanov in general and how did you get to the point where you wrote a separate book, not only about him, but also about guera? the idea is that by my profession i have no direct connection with cinema, i am exclusively a newspaper journalist, and what interested me most was his 15 years of silence; in fact, these 15 years were creative years. i can even tell you that in one of the camps a film was even shot at the request of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine, the film is simply a documentary, the script was written by parajanov , few people know about this, but the director of this film is alive and well, gave me an interview, and
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accordingly, he talked about parajanov’s experiences, which naturally he did not have the right to appear in front of the camera, namely the filming camera and... and it was felt that the person was bored, so there is one frame there , though, which you can see , as if it were there in the corner sergei iosivich, but this shows that even while in the camps, he remained a creative person, so to show this how it happened, i even found people who took his collages out of the camps, there are people whom he taught to draw. collages in in these camps, there are people who later became artists, in general, this is a very interesting topic, 15 years of silence, which in fact were not silence, but were years of creativity. for the soviet viewer, for filmmakers , of course, the name of tanin guera is associated with
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the name of federica felini, first of all, yes, and for parajano’s generation, the generation immediately after him, neorealism, where higuero and fellini began, is, well, one of those... impulses for thaw cinema, and then, it is clear that fellini’s cinema has gone far beyond, far beyond the limits of neorealism, this phantasmogoria of guer and fillini, it seems to me, is very close to parajanov, and fellini also recognized this, as if, yes, and this is a famous story, that when felline’s letters reached parajanov, and already on zone , they asked him who it was, and he, it seems to me, is very characteristic of apraggiano, of his humor, of his kind of uncontrollable fantasy, and this is my brother, fedya, our grandmother was an italian communist, so here we are separated, some kind of indian story, but very some kind of true in a psychological sense, really, absolutely, and
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it seems to me that this is no coincidence, brother, fellini, parajanov, you know, this is very interesting, because she once again proves to us that they are all, as it were, played on the same field, well, it was as if they were creating on the same field, i would add andrei arsenevich there after all, and guera was friends with him, and parajanov, and there is just intertwining, judging, starting with... i’m glad that in my hometown of tbilis, the street where parajanov lived began to bear
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his name, and on january 9, here on the twenty-fourth in the next year, a cultural center will finally open in tbilisi, but this will be a kind of, let’s say, prelude, probably to the opening of a museum, which functions remarkably well in yerevania, and where all of parajanov’s works, in fact, were transported during his lifetime and installed according to that plan. which parajanov himself approved, this is the famous person who saved parajanov for us, this is zaven sargsyan. viewers probably first of all associate the name parajanov; in fact, the color of pomegranate, pomegranate, pomegranate, is actually associated with the film ; in fact, it was more likely the name invented for distribution of this film in the soviet union, because its original name was sayat nava. nevertheless, in the film the word pomegranate is heard, pomegranate appears there.
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childhood, the world of childhood, that’s what got me drunk, yes, as a creator, that’s where everything comes from, that’s where the beginning is, but it’s really memorable, incredible, but that’s how, for example, in armenia, how the beli armenians accepted this film, how this the figure in her parajanov-like performance, that after all there were several films, yes, there are different versions of this film, there is actually a film, as... they write the original version of sayat nova, which was released in a very small print run
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, literally several copies, then this film was re-edited for the soviet union, this was done by the soviet director sergei yutkevich, and the result was a more or less adapted version, from which a certain amount of material was cut, i’m just familiar and communicated with the now living wonderful simply second director of the color garnet levon levon grigoryan, so it seems to me that... it is his merit that he remained, as it were, original, so which version, which is well outside of yutkevich , let’s say, the version that yutkevich made, is one film, and the one that, accordingly, is native, parajanovsky, thanks to levon grigoryan it was preserved, and for some reason it seems to me that regarding the reaction to this film, then it seems to me that out of enthusiasm,
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in general, in general, in such a state of near death, he began to shoot the film, they allowed him, not that they allowed him, they helped him with everything he asked, everything that georgia asked for the film, she prepared. he took off, started filming confession, this was the most brilliant , the script was published, i myself this script, it was published in the magazine literary armenia, i myself brought proofs of this script to parajanov, but he only managed, you know, to shoot 200, 200 m, he just managed to shoot, that’s it , that’s where it all ended, and such, you know
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, such an understatement, that’s what you said regarding... that, that parajanov left, now we can fantasize, yes, knowing the script, what kind of film parajanov could have made with this confession, and many actors, they are now beginning to tell their versions that participated in this film, as they say, i also wanted to say that it is paradoxical, but parajanov’s paintings are those in the zones in which he was, he managed to make 800 works and believe in this figure, but i know a real person who brought out these 800 works, and these many people who know parajan, they are not 800 works, they can be partially seen, respectively, in this museum, why am i saying this, he always said that i never he was as free as in these camps, this is
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a paradox, everyone is talking about 15 years of silence, in fact he was creating, he was creating all these 15 years. and took from there a huge number of scripts, he had a dacha near tbilisi, which he supposedly brought a suitcase with these scripts, he told everyone that these were 10 nobel prizes, one of the scripts, you know, he gave to yuri ilyenko, and he made the film ljubedinoe lake , zone, yes, he believes, parajanov believes that these scripts were stolen from him, well, 30-odd years have passed, but they still seem to be these people who
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season, on sunday on the first. do you eat buns? very rarely, and if my mother is kind, she can allow it once a week. let me remind you that this is a podcast of witnesses from einstein, i am natalya ryavchikova, a film historian, i am stanislav dzdinsky, and today we are talking about the films of sergei porodzhanov, whose birth is 100 years old, you spoke about acting and in general the genre of the film sayat nava -
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i think he said it, collages are compressed films, when you watch the same thing, the same thing, sat navam, to me for some reason it seems that these are just some not mise-en-scenes, but just separate collages, which we consider as a movement, let’s say, well, figuratively, so in this regard, i wanted to continue the thought regarding perpetuating the memory of parajanov’s themes that 30 years have already passed since his death, yes. and we are celebrating the centenary, but its collages, for some reason the number of collages is increasing and increasing. i even find it in very famous moscow houses.
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in general, after leaving the camp i was looking for stories, you probably know, yes, that he once even wrote a letter to kosygin, he wrote, who was the prime minister of the soviet union, he wrote a letter asking that he be allowed to move to live in iran, so, it ’s interesting that iran is in in this sense, when you watch parojanov’s films, they somehow kick up this east, the man was simply eastern,
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our country is huge, so it seems to me that the east attracted him solely not by ideology, precisely by its beauty, its beauties and its content , here it is i tried to reflect it in my films. one of the unrealized projects - parajanov is a demon, viktor shklopsky participated in writing the script, but this film was never produced and in general, if we talk about...
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talk about rip's mistakes or about the legend of the saramsky fortress, this is a step forward, or is this some kind of jump on the spot, if you like, is it
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like a development of those ideas, artistic principles that were already discovered in sayatnava, or is this some kind of new word in parajanov’s aesthetics? it seems to me that the aesthetics remained the same, yes, but just each one, it’s not the most lip-synching, no? no, it seems to me that it was not a repetition, it was a development. it’s just that when you watch these films more than once, yes, you notice some details that you feel, that he seems to be repeating himself, but moves on, he seems to develop, so it seems to me that all the films which he nevertheless brought to the end, relatively speaking, they reached the silver screen, they are all parodjanov’s, that’s why there is such a concept of porajaniada, and how can a director in general who with such a tragic biography, with so many... problems with the law, as it was formulated, described in the soviet union, with restrictions, did not become anti-soviet and did not get carried away, for example,
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with highly social cinema, like many of his colleagues, especially in the eighties on the eve of the extension, in the years extensions, you know what’s the matter, it seems to me personally that he did not become an anti-soviet in the sense that we generally assume why, because he understood that it was more important for him to remain an artist. in fact, he remained in our memory and now this is what we celebrate century, an artist with a capital a, and he was most interested in politics or ideology, let’s say, or politics from the point of view of art alone, in general, he quickly began to forget all these camps, prisons, he wanted to work quickly, the only thing for my question is why he himself... didn’t start making films about his experience, and gave this film the script to yuri ilyenko, yes, but it seems to me that he did the right thing, because
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he could have done it earlier. end his life, relive what he experienced in the camps, this was really impossible, but i also wanted to add that for him in general, he was interested in being in the spotlight, so the fact that he appeared among, let’s say, human rights activists, politicians, and so on, interested him only so that he was there first, he would have signed some letter
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that he would continue to make films until the end , also in georgian, in armenian, in all languages, you know, it seems to me that films about dzhanov can be watched like good hockey or football matches without sound, just like movies, you come to the exhibition, you don’t have to listen to the autogit, that’s right, well , the guide who tells you, that’s why it’s good.
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about the centenary of the soviet director and artist sergei parajanov, thank you very much, goodbye, goodbye. this is the easy money podcast, i am its host, mikhail khanov. today we will talk about what professions, competencies, specialties will be in demand in the near and not only in the near future, therefore, in demand - this means well paid. lately, we are increasingly we hear more often that artificial intelligence will leave people without jobs. millions of people on planet earth will be closed, entire industries, professions, specialties will be forgotten , is this true, what are really trends in the labor market, and what are just headlines to attract attention, today we will try
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to figure it out together with the director for human capital development, skolkovo school of management , sergei spasov. hello, sergey. hello, mikhail. well, let me start with this general question. right now. on labor market, a seller's market or a buyer's market, that is, what is more, those who are looking for work or those who are looking for workers in general? now it’s a seller’s market, and in general there are more vacancies than there are candidates, and this is amplified by various factors, including the departure of people in large numbers in recent years, the demographic hole in which we find ourselves , the rise of the economy there in the last year, all this leads to the fact that it is more difficult for companies to find people, this is in general, but it’s interesting if you look at specifics, yes, there is industries, there are areas in which it is very difficult to find candidates, these are blue-collar
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professions, these are sales, that is, those very blue collars where no one wanted to go, there is a seller’s market in our terminology specifically in general, and if you look at white collars, especially top management, then... the situation in recent years has not changed much from what it was before, there, yes, there are from 12 to 20 candidates for one vacancy, and the statistics there are very conditional, yes, but still less it shows the difference between white collar workers and blue collar workers , that is, the hands of drivers, yes, that is, those who drive, as i say, i am the driver with the hands, yes the leader, there are always more of them , that is, there are always many who want to drive, there is someone to choose from, this is the shortage of human capital.
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i think driverless cars will appear in widespread use there, yes, but it is unlikely that this will happen in the next five or even 10 years, my personal opinion, the same with artificial intelligence, it will certainly affect many specialties, and it already
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reflected, if i don’t know there yet, 5 years ago in almost all the call centers that you called or that called you, you spoke with people, but now it’s back. automation and artificial intelligence are already in such demand that they replace humans. it’s hard for me to say exactly what is being replaced, where people are reducing their efforts, reducing their efforts, that is, where they should have hired earlier than 10 what yes, that’s where else, for whom it will be more difficult to look for work in the near future, for people who.
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written and actually we are new neural networks we teach on these texts, then these statistics have proven that artificial intelligence is degrading, so in any case these people are needed, talented... designers, artists and screenwriters are also needed, but now we are talking specifically from an applied point of view, which people will it be difficult to find a job in the future, that is, where should i study now? it seems to me that in the future it will be more difficult for white collar workers than for blue collar workers, let’s clarify this for our audience, white collar workers are those who have employees, these are, well, in principle, these are office employees , so to speak, not only managers, these are, in principle, office office employees, and for some reason, where else are they?
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there will be tops there, the best of the best, and there will be tens of hundreds there, and not thousands, as now, from the point of view of managers, it seems to me that those who have rather narrow specializations will be in demand, now after the pandemic that trend , which i observe when searching for managers there, yes, let’s say you’re looking for a retail company financial retail sales, yes, let me explain, yes, yes, yes, and...
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for the tasks of the company, and - if earlier companies often looked for a specialist simply from a company similar in profile to their size, now the company has specific tasks, let’s say, entering a new region, or let’s say a merger there and the acquisition of another company, and the company is already looking, if we’re talking about top managers, not just a financial director, but a financial director who has experience in solving problems. these specific ones tasks, expansion into another region, acquisition,
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takeover of another company. accordingly , in order to be successful in the future, the candidate must have a portfolio of some completed tasks, experience in the past, who will best meet the needs of the company, and yes, and as the labor market changes, now the so-called zoomers, yes, that is, the generation of the 2000s, who graduated there, some of them for... graduated from institutes, some graduated from colleges, some are simply entrepreneurs there from 15 there from 17 years, but now it’s a fashionable topic in the information space to develop some projects, well, in general, this generation is somehow changing the labor market, that is, there are some requests for a shorter working week, for working remotely, for something else , because, well , in the next 10 years they will represent the main working mass, and in connection with this there are some changes, if you look at the generation, then zoomer... they are more flexible and
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more demanding of their employers, they are lighter make a decision to change jobs if generation x, there yes, to which we we relate to you, achievement is characteristic, ambition is characteristic there, perseverance is characteristic, one might say, then zoomers are more concerned about their life and work balance, they defend their boundaries more in terms of personal time and... working time, and therefore with them the employer it’s more difficult to work there, yes , if you gave a task to the previous generation a specific person, on how tasks are set there, well, my personal, my personal, from the leader, and well, from the person and from his leader, yes. but, by the way, when we talk about generations, for some reason
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everyone always says that generation y is now entering, generation z is entering the labor market, but the population of the country as a whole is growing up, and even if we look at the horizon 20-35, and i recently read a forecast there with trends and saw figures there that in 2035 . 40% of the country's population - this will be the generation who were before x, respectively 40% is a very large part, it is clear that this generation will partially retire there, but what does this mean , that since the start of my career there 20 years ago, companies have almost always tried to recruit young people, companies always wanted to recruit young people, they created internship programs, because it is believed
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that the younger generation is always more talented than the previous generation, well, you know, there is even a film, even an intern filmed in the states with robert denirok, but where is he... very clearly shows how not even hard skills, that is, not some specialized knowledge, but soft skills, that is, these are the skills of communication, communication, anticipating the desires of some consequences of decisions made or actions help a person who, well , how old is he 60 , even more yes, well, as an example i can say that my mother is 77 years old, she still even does some projects, she does calculations...
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not about this age, but a little younger, 60 plus, so this is generally a very, let’s say, experienced generation, if they have health, then these people, they can bring a lot of benefits to companies, is there a tendency to change this trend, that’s what i wanted to say, that one of the trends that i see is more hiring of people of mature age there , 50 plus, because, too, let’s remember there 15 years ago, if you are... 50 years old, then practically no one will take you to a leadership position, well, in my opinion, on the contrary , no, that is, the older you are, you still have to have experience, but still they won’t take it more difficult at all, in general there are 50 people there, oh 50 years, but it’s difficult to speak generally for everyone there, yes, but many companies there tried to attract young leaders, there yes, in the future there yes, due to
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the fact that there will be fewer young people , there will be more adults, and companies will more often hire people already. well, let’s leave this out of the picture, returning to the topic of managers, their potential demand, that now less and less of them are needed, but still, in your opinion, are hard or software in demand now? in principle, solve such problems due to his leadership qualities, charisma, ability to build teams, ability to maintain a team, ability motivate teams, but do you need specific ones? you started with the fact that
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specific customizations are needed, yes, that is , clear compliance with the requirements, tasks from the manager, his skills, or are these qualities still important? which is called soft skills all over the world - they are more important, they are more in demand, well, for success , and for success, soft skills are more in demand , they are more needed for success , and we should not forget about hard skills, hard skills are like a base, it goes without saying, because if you have hard skills these are here professional skills are insufficient there, yes, or if you don’t have them, then there may be a situation where, at the expense of there and your sof skills, you are going somewhere -
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allegedly , the whole world supports ukraine so much that sets of children’s construction sets dedicated to ukraine. any aggressive nationalism has the concept of centricity, they are the center of the universe, everything revolves around them. it’s humiliating for the country that the brand noticed us, it turns out that ukraine is just a trademark, purely technically, production-wise, it’s it’s just economic insanity, how a british pensioner came up with a heroic biography for himself, posing as... godparents and their godchildren, i’m a very responsible person, one of my goddaughters ’ mother died, and i immediately said that i’m taking you home to live with me , lenochka, i know
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that you are also a cross several times, the oldest is 16 years old, the youngest is 4 years old, we filmed together, alexander mikhailovich solemnly wrote on me at the time of the ceremony, he sprinkled you, they say this is a lucky sign, good omen for me a godson who was previously in the north military district, he... is now in the hospital, i am very proud of him, baptism, when you understand who you are, who you belong to, and don’t run around and ask, how to live? this is a day for the lord, we put off our everyday activities, we go to the temple, when a person has some kind of trouble, the soul begins to suffer, the temple, there is an answer to questions that are sometimes difficult to formulate, my son’s heart stopped, we lost him . and katya saved me, katya says to me: “be a godmother,” for me it was, it was such a gift, we have the best godmother
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in the world. on saturday, on the first. this is the easy money podcast, i am its host, mikhail khanov, and we continue to communicate with sergei spasov, director for human capital development, skolkovo school of management. going down a little into specifics, literally, let’s put it this way. calculated and is this a local deficit because people have left or there are simply not enough of them physically to solve problems? the number of tasks
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is growing, because we are talking about the shortage of it, i don’t know, it’s been there for 15 years already, yes or or how many there, well, in general, we talk a lot, excellently written down it developers second third yes, yes, yes, then people who work in product development , the so-called product managers there, yes , these are those who bring these products to... clients to the production stage, i just i’ll explain to our audience using an example , let’s say there’s a brilliant designer who created , i don’t know, coat trousers, yes, i in general, but there’s a person who will take it, draw a pattern, hire specialists who will sew it all, buy the fabric , will create a line, colors, sizes, negotiate with stores, all this will be distributed, and this product will appear on the shelf, yes, this is called a product manager, every company that... does anything has its own products and a product manager , that is, in fact, those who come up with these new products or those who sell them are in demand
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, because these are really different people, well, i ’m talking about those who sell, i’m talking about those who sell, so the third one, well, i i mean, this is everything related to technology in a broad sense, yes, there are people working with biotechnologies, with educational technologies, this is this prefix tech, you are still looking at such a foundation, but well... i look at ordinary sales will not be in demand due to the fact that we are saying that we need to somehow sell hr products, that is, people who deal with human capital, your people are always in demand there, yes, this is now, in my opinion, the time of sales, i would include them here in this top three, i agree , this is absolutely perfect, and sellers were always needed there, even if the company has products, money needs to be earned, customers need to be reached, and sellers are a must. there we’ll add ichar here, that is, working with people, actually, here’s hiring people, developing people, because -

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