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who conducted large-scale experiments with biological weapons, and not without reason, recently kirillov, the head of the radiation chemical-biological protection troops, held a very large press conference, where he showed who is now engaged, these are the americans, they have entangled the russian federation with their laboratories, in which, so to speak, they are carrying out their military-biological program in a completely undisguised way, so this nazism... i agree with leonid petrovich, this is not neo-nazism, this is the same nazism as it was, there will be, as long as such sentiments exist, and they are growing stronger in europe, i think that we will still have to face this to its fullest extent. it is this, in fact, revival of nazism, and not only in ukraine, but also more broadly in the collective west, that russia is fighting with the help of its special military operation and with the help of the policy that it pursues in general towards the west. in relation to
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the world majority, it was a great game, all the best, goodbye, i would like to wish our citizens of the russian federation everyone health and good health...
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and many realized that only in friendship and love can we live together. i love my country very much and am proud of our russia. then jesus comes from galilee to the jordan river.
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creators of the cultural art project male voice. dear friends, happy holiday. happy holiday. i want to know where to start our conversation. and today, naturally, we will talk about the different meanings, yes, cultural projections of the holiday and so on. but i want to say something personal, what does this feast of the epiphany mean to you personally? for me it it’s really not a simple holiday, because if you delve into the essence of the gospel events, it turns out that this is far from a celebration, in the sense that it’s something joyful, enchanting, because it’s actually baptism christ in jordan begins his path to calvary, and many orthodox theologians, speaking about the event of baptism, theophany, said that this event can actually be equated to the gethsemane prayer of christ the savior, because those. the waters
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into which the savior plunges are not waters joy, these are not the waters of some kind of happiness, but these are the waters of sin, the whole weight of that sinful burden that humanity, yes throughout history , has committed, uh-huh, alexey nikolaevich, what is your perception of this holiday, for some reason i have the same there is a line from the holy scripture that i baptize you with water, but the one who will baptize you with spirit is coming after me. attitude towards this holiday, not even an attitude, but an awareness of this holiday, that we need to seek, to acquire the holy spirit, this may be the purpose of our life, for some reason i can relate to this so much, it’s very interesting, let’s maybe start with a little reference material or something, because in the beginning there wasn’t such a separate holiday, but it appears.
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the first, actually historical manifestation of the nature of god, whom christianity professes, the god of the trinity. the son, the second person of the trinity, was immersed in the water of the jordan. at that moment , the voice of god the father sounded from heaven, as if from heaven, which, in fact
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, the gospel narrative here does not specify who exactly heard this voice, or heard i understood, in fact, what was said, in the three gospels there are slightly different ones, yes. but it can be stated with certainty that the prophet john the baptist, the baptist, heard exactly what was said, this is my beloved son, the voice of the first person of the holy trinity of god the father sounded, and the holy spirit, the third person in the form of a miraculous dove from heaven, did not enter christ, and after that disappeared, because it was not a physical dove, but a certain spiritual form that the holy spirit took, thus humanity... we have this icon baptism, yes, let's maybe read it, let's see what is main, important reflected here, yes, we see christ
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the savior standing in a stream of water, he is blessed by john, the parable, the prophet, yes, he is on the left, we must understand that the word that we... use to describe this event of baptism is not the same baptism that takes place in orthodox churches, but the fact is that the original greek is the word immersion, or the verb baptizu, yes, i immerse, yes , in fact, the rite that john the baptist performed is not a sacrament baptism, this washing as a sign of repentance for sins committed, moreover, the sins were not forgiven, because before the atoning sacrifice of christ the savior and the sacrament of repentance, there was no such thing, and therefore people came to john on the jordan, repented of their sins, of their mistakes, as a sign that this repentance was completed, but the sins were still not forgiven, but repentance was brought,
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regret was expressed, and john performed the ritual washing of these people, christ, the savior comes to the jordan, john sees him and.. . wonders: why did you come sinless, what should you regret, and i should be baptized from you, not you from me, but the savior says that stop, we need to fulfill the truth of god with you, and the truth of god was that christ, the son of god , the promised king of heaven, came to this world not to reign, not to be served, but to serve himself. and the sinless savior, plunging into the waters of the jordan, is not cleansed; on the contrary, he accepts all these sins for which people repented, and here, in fact, the symbolism of water, it is extremely is important, because water in the bible is also the water
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from which the entire creation seemed to come, this is the water originally over which the holy spirit, the spirit of god hovered, warmed it at the beginning of the creation of the world, but... here it’s still like experts tell us that there are two mythological creatures depicted below on the left and right , and these two streams merging, and this is actually an indication that water can be both life-giving and destructive, and there are angels and those present at this event. christ, after baptism, goes to the desert, where he meets face to face with the devil, but not only the dark side
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of spiritual forces, christ meets in the desert and angels also serve him in the desert. yes, that is , this is already a development, because in the very gospel story of baptism nothing is said about angels, but it’s also interesting that these are these plants, right? as a symbol of the fact that if the desert is something lifeless, yes, then the plant is a symbol of life, and naturally, yes, this is an indication of what is beginning to come true. prophecy, the desert is thriving, the desert begins to fill with plants, although it of course, a spiritual symbol, because the jordan desert continues to remain just as lifeless, but we are talking about the fact that the world is renewed in the event of theophany, the grace of god returns to the world in which we live. alexey nikolaevich, this very idea, a purely christian thing, god accepting the sins of the whole world, is this how you feel and experience it? you know, vladimirovich, when i received the invitation to the program, i’ll be honest, when i found out
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the topic, if it weren’t for me, i had not edited this program with my trip right now to front line, otherwise i probably wouldn’t have dared, but now i arrived, saw people there, a man, so we talked about the spirit, yes, not water as a material thing, but the spirit as something invisible, that was there... the repentant robber who accompanied him, he almost didn’t say a single word during the whole trip, but he had a look, he could burn through any person with this look, when we said goodbye, i read my poems there, uh-huh, and he tears off his chevron, so he gives it away to me it, this chevron is relatives, and i understand how much in this gesture, well , his life, his understanding, he simply said there are literally two words , he says, you read it: creation, i said, i remembered how i changed my life, i just came to god, he says, everything changed for me, and this
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is this, it was almost impossible, but this happened, i don’t know, maybe i can even answer this question in verse, easier than with prose, i’m not a theologian, from the mountain peaks to the lowlands of the earth, there are traces of our paws everywhere, lord, i’m a worthless son and a worthless slave, i don’t know how king david to sing... psalms for you, lord, my appearance is indecent, my thoughts are lame, i know your world, it’s fair and simple, i don’t think about another world, but when lent begins, friends come with wine, and we’ll rush into the whole crowd, we’re on the heavenly ladder, dad, i invited my friends to visit, we really quietly, dad, a wonderful poem, one of... my favorites from you, thank you, it’s interesting that your poem intersects with that very
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picture that we rarely associate, why with the event of theophany, a painting by alexander andreevich ivanov, there is already the appearance of christ to the people, the appearance christ to the people, there in in the center of the composition there is just a rap, you see, here in a blue tunic, interestingly, on the right, and many people pay attention, of course, first of all to the figure of the savior, to the figure of john the baptist. for those who stand next to the prophet john, to whom he announces the imminent coming of christ, it is the servant who occupies the central place. this, of course, is an amazing deconstruction of ivanov, placing a slave in the center of the composition, especially since, as it seems, at that time serfdom in russia had not yet been abolished. yes, he graduated in 1857, in 1858 she was shown for the first time. i met cool ones, yes , as far as i remember, such a reaction, well , it’s really an amazing thing, this
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is humanity at a crossroads, but just in case, i’ll say it again, you’re absolutely right that maybe not everyone associates this picture with the holiday, which we are discussing, but here is the savior coming to be baptized, here is john the baptist, here he says, yes, here is a lamb into the earth and the sins of the world, the god- man is coming, and this is humanity in general, these are these people, on the left, an old man and a young man, who have just received john’s baptism , yes? here they are with they come out with hope and see that there is still a teacher, whom john himself points out, from such an interesting one, as they say, this figure in a red tunic, yes, which is almost the closest to the cross, but with his back, that it was gogol, yes , that is, he wrote it from gogol, the spectrum of listeners, it is really very different, and next to gogol are, you see, elders, wise, yes.
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christ to john says, by and large, she is not needed and uninteresting, since she destroys their comfortable circle, yeah, mutual interests, she’s ready, i think the movie only shows love stories in war films are about a guy's love for weapons. in gangster films, about the love of guys, thefts, doing really rubbish, and the new wave brought love for cinema, without love there are no films. he is a child of the cinema , he himself says that he grew up in the cinema museum in paris, he knows the role of watching old films, films are not good enough for the audience, but the audience is often not good enough for the films, they say that people do not understand my films , so what, i don’t understand them myself, matodore, jean luc gadar, two
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or three things that i don’t know about him for... on the first rum castro product of stellor group, you are the only one with me, and we are husband and wife, and you? and we're good-bye, i'll take you to the carriage, don't, i don't like being seen off, why did you hide it from your sister for 3 years, i don't like the city and i won't play around in it, you're a quitter, that's what i'll tell you , i see that you are worried, well, really, zoechka, vegetable garden,
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let’s begin a professional and furious, i hope, discussion, this is a picture. which , on the one hand, continues the tradition, is embedded in our soviet cinema, for example, as in films love and doves, it is very difficult to make a decision, a feat of the heroine, to agree that she loves and that she is loved, from this coleito the question is where they will go astray, it was such a collegial decision of our filming group, on saturday on the first , we gathered our thoughts today. on the occasion of the feast of the baptism of the lord, priest anthony borisov, alexey shmilyov, i’m vladimir ligoida, we continue, alexey nikolovich, what emotions does this evoke in you, this is a grandiose painting, of course, well, it feels like it’s very dualistic, probably, because there really are a lot of rhymes here, old age and youth, how can there be an old world and a new
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world, then rap, if you say, this is rap, then there’s like a person above it, in my opinion. even in rich clothes, maybe there is someone even his owner standing there, this is also visible, well, it’s in rhymes, that’s my first impression, to be honest, i wasn’t very familiar with this picture, i probably saw it in tretyakov gallery, when it was yes, but never tried to penetrate deeply into it the bottom line is, now when you say that this is connected with baptism, it has enriched my knowledge, but you know, in fact, that’s why i decided, although father anthony had planned to give me such a scoring pass, so to speak. i read notes from our philologist gasparov, and he writes about how the daughter of the persian ambassador in 1947 ended up, well, she was brought to the trikovka, here she stands in front of this picture, you know what she said, she said: we always have this weather, you understand, because in order not to turn into people who, looking people will say about this picture, what
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interesting trees there are, the weather, the mountains, look, they’re wonderful, yes, it seems to me that odessa is really here for us... huge christian meanings and a fantastic story itself, well, it took him 20 years to write it, his moods changed, yes, he really was friends there with gogol, with hercyn, in general, in different ways , all this in the end, as i understand it, even as experts tell us, he lost interest in this picture, but in principle ivanov believed that this was the main plot of human history , and the main meeting for humanity, in general, it’s somehow difficult to argue with him, so... i’m very glad that we shared this, well, it seems to me that i apologize, this is also a good illustration of the same thought that tormented dostoevsky when he wrote his idiot, what would happen if christ were just a man, the fact is that ivanov, as far as i remember, was carried away by the ideas of german romanticism, and
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believed that a person could, by and large , become a messiah for... the service, his sermon did not cause such a revolution in people's souls as a sermon christ, and this idea, the romantic idea of ​​some kind of superhumanity. it ultimately showed its tragedy through the example of the life of ivanov himself, yes, the man died in a sense disappointed, died of cholera, which he may have contracted against the backdrop
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of extreme anxiety due to the fact that the public did not, by and large, appreciate his works , this is prince myshkin, also lost and died in such an absolutely lonely state, but maybe there is a completely different form of this nitchen superhumanity. and the 20th century showed there, yes, what can happen, if with a minus sign, yes, this is superhumanity, it touched a nerve , because of course, for me, this is an idiot who is not related to my favorite novels by fyodor mikhailovich, with all my great love for him, but look, because what dostoevsky is trying to do, show a perfect , wonderful person, but on there in the drafts, he writes in the margins, prince myshkin is equal to christ, yes, what happens, right? a man goes crazy, loves two women, one is killed, the second, in general, also ends very badly, and his end is sad and sad, and
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at the same time, well, an absolutely brilliant work, which, well, in my opinion, is actually the quintessence of brilliant art, if you like, the degree of paradox, yes, it means everything plays here, starting from the fact that a novel conceived about a wonderful person is called an idiot, but. .. but, but the question i have for you is this : this is how you think this idea and dostoevsky’s desire to depict such a positive person, yes, to what extent is it expressible by means of, excuse the bureaucratic art, in general, of course, expressible, it seems to me necessary only the old man missed, that no, why , it seems to me, he succeeded, he... something that, well, yes, it’s not what he intended, something that the artist does not conceive, but she is born - a work like a child , i didn’t have any, uh, contradictions, i read
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the novel the idiot in one go, i didn’t stop at all, i read it without a doubt, i didn’t have any allusions there - the mouse’s savior, it’s just, probably, there there he more times understood exactly...
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the task, because every time we find ourselves in the face of such a difficult thought about whether this is really god’s truth or just a mirage, a phantom that i created in order to please myself, after all, and not god? yes, i just remembered who it is with chesterton or lewis, they sometimes close, so to speak, although this is strange at first glance, starton still has such an idea that when people finally understand that it is useless to read only their bible and not to read other people's bibles, yes, well, in this sense, yes
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, karl barth wrote that a good theologian is that person who holds the bible in one hand, a newspaper in the other and reads them alternately, yes, because without the bible you can, of course, understand everything that is happening here now, but you will go crazy because... now maybe the guys there they will also hear him, the soldier was dying, as they say, without unnecessary phrases and copper pipes, and the drunken capital was walking,
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and went home...
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if you don’t have time, then everything is already, the second thing is that from the one who plunges into baptism, all the sins are washed off, thirdly, epiphany water is stored for a long time, because priests use silver they illuminate it with crosses, and fourthly, epiphany water is different waters, here on the evening of the eighteenth they also illuminate it on the nineteenth, no, the water is the same on epiphany eve, on the holiday itself, the rite is also the same, of the great sanctity.
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it is illuminated, it is illuminated through church prayer, through the immersion of the cross, in this sense the words of baptism, cross, they are single-crowned, and the word cross itself, as the fasmer dictionary specifically points out, refers us to the word christ, yes, our ancestors, the slavs, looking at the crucifix, at the cross crucified, they said, here is christ, christ, the cross, yes, hence baptism, that is, baptism both as a sacrament and as a holiday. this is a call to follow christ in his service, in the service of mercy , in the service of the truth of god, a miracle happens, but like any miracle of god, it does not exercise human freedom, so there is no need to think about the fact that immersion in baptismal water, acceptance of baptismal water , guaranteed yes, guaranteed to work, no, of course, no, of course, it all depends
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on what inner feeling... the person has this action is carried out, therefore , if a person took a five-liter glass of epiphany water, brought it home, and at home he knows what’s going on there for a year, then of course the grace of god will recede both from the water and from this person because of his own free actions, not there will be no benefit either from this water or from the labor that the person put himself through, leaving the queue to collect this very five-liter bottle. famous godparents and their godchildren met in our studio. i am a very responsible person one of my goddaughters’ mother died, and i immediately said that i was taking you to live at home. lenochka, i know that you are also crossed by five several times, the oldest is 16 years old, the youngest is 4 and a half years old. we made a movie together. alexander mikhailovich solemnly wrote on me, at the moment
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of the ceremony, he sprinkled you. they say this is a happy sign, a good omen, i have a godson who was wounded in the north military district, he is now in the hospital, i am very proud of him, baptism is when you understand who you are, to whom you belong, and you don’t run , and you don’t ask, but how to live, this is a day for the lord, we put off our everyday activities, we go to the temple, when a person has some kind of trouble, the soul begins to suffer, the temple, there is an answer to questions , which are sometimes difficult to formulate, my son’s heart stopped, we lost him, and katya saved me, katya tells me, be a godmother, for me this was such a gift, we have the best godmother in the world, on saturday on the first , veda vodka, product
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going to make sure you get everything from him? let's go, where? i'll tell you on the way, let's go! oh, oh, why are you looking at the folder, swearing, just don’t get attached to him, it's dangerous. the reputation of the clinic is very important to me personally. a child is more important than money. poet alexey shmilev, priest anthony borisov, i am vladimir ligoido, we have gathered our thoughts about the feast of the epiphany, we continue.
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but you often come across such an attitude, some kind of sacred rite of the church, like such a magical ritual. i had a case, i was standing in the monastery and... the priest stopped the service at some point, went out to the altar, came back, and said so heavily: the temple is half full of sorcerers and not a single one repents, not just one, they are noticeable, these are precisely those who treat the service as some kind of magical action, a magic formula, which yes, but you have to understand why you are there, your thoughts, as it were, therefore. by faith , yours is up to you, yes, and you plunge, well, not always, but i try , yes, that’s why this is important for you, it can be expressed somehow, it can, it can be in poetic form, first of all, i feel that what - this happens, i basically, if there is a font,
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there are often fonts at monasteries, if i have one, then i try not to miss opportunity to plunge, because some kind of lightness appears after this, and perhaps i would read another poem, all living, instantly. your subtle, but viscous desires, to bring a kitten to your house, give him something to drink, feed him, let him stay in your house, because in the end there will be nothing left of you except the frozen eyes of that kitten, the white angel will descend lower, then at the great judgment he he will say thoughtfully, they did not leave god in trouble, the tired eternal judges will dissolve in the cosmic darkness, new people will appear. to look for god earth, again you touched me very much, especially since my cat is terribly sick now, another amazing story, the cat himself came to us, we were looking for owners for a long time, a red cat, a scottish paddle-eared cat, in general, we
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are now experiencing everything, everything a family, including a dog, who is looking for a cat, the wife also opened the door and there is a kitten standing there and this story was born, just a month ago. i remember the words of the scripture: blessed izhi and cattle have mercy, have mercy, yes yes, this is such a topic, i ’m still talking about bathing, because there are also a lot of things, is it possible to talk about some correct attitude towards this, but in fact everything is simple here, like the apostle paul, everything is allowed to me, but not everything is useful, everything is allowed to me, but let nothing possess me in the sense that... no one forbids us to rejoice , to rejoice in life, to rejoice at the opportunity to plunge into illuminated water on the feast of the epiphany, but the most important thing is that this joy does not turn into some kind of revelry, that this joy is sanctified by prayer and that not with strong
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drinks and drinks, and so that you know, well at least some meaningfulness was present in this action, so that at least there was gratitude towards god. gratitude that this water has become holy, this will be quite enough, yes, for this bathing to truly have not only physical, but also spiritual benefits. we still have the end of christmastide, and this is also some kind of watershed, but we are moving on , well, in fact, soon, very soon to preparations for the great one, well, easter is later this year, so there is a so-called misaed, it will stretch out, but it happens like this, what's next sunday after the feast of baptism is already there and either resurrection. that is, we have not
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even had time to celebrate the epiphany, when the period of preparation for lent really begins at early easter, so you said today that the baptism of the lord is still a special event that has a special meaning, and with baptism itself, which so we accept people when they become christians, it seems to have no direct connection, but still, if you ask the question to what extent. he is competent, that we can understand about our baptism through the prism of this baptism of the lord , to what extent such reflection is appropriate, well, of course, our baptism is following christ, a promise to follow him, this is in some sense an oath of allegiance to the savior, this is a reference to very ancient cultural codes, archetypes, business the fact that christianity... filled many of the forms that existed at that time with its meaning,
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the threefold immersion of a person in water with the naming of a new name, this is the same form that was practiced there in ancient rome, when the owner bought himself a slave at the market, he he brought him home, washed him, first removing his old clothes, gave him a new name, the slave no longer had the right to respond to the old one, in this sense, of course, we were baptized. sends, among other things, to these very ancient ideas and ideas that were understandable at that time, now we don’t feel these things, but in ancient times everything was obvious that i am now not someone’s slave, including not the slave of the devil, yes, i am now a servant of god, but this slavery is slavery that does not imply the taking away of freedom, it is the voluntary acceptance of god’s law, i i submit myself to the commandments, and through this...
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everything is permitted, and freedom is i want to be like this, and not just anyone, and by following christ, we choose the path, this is freedom, when you choose the path, you have there a fork in the road and you go not here, but here, otherwise you are free, if you can choose free will, which god gave us, and now i’m just thinking about the whole program, about baptism, baptism, this is the poem that is most accurate here atmosphere. in my own perception,
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it is similar to this immersion in epiphany water, for some reason this poem came to mind: there is so much light around , don’t go blind out of habit, the dust of a beautiful star settles on your body, and all the horseflies die from this dust, everyone who drank your blood, drunk, circled above the rottenness how beautiful this light is, you too could become this light. but you are too heavy, but your sins are pulling you to the ground, you will open your eyes in the morning and you will not remember this, only the singing of birds, only a ray of sunshine on the table, how wonderful we have today, almost poetically the evening turns out, at the end, here’s what i would like to ask you, probably among those who will watch and listen to us, there are people who are thinking about whether you should be baptized or not. well, what would you tell them,
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nikolaevich? as an orthodox christian, i want to say that this path is not paved with carpet paths, but this path enlivens the heart, and to live according to the heart with faith, probably, what else is needed? thank you, father, but whatever you say, we have to carry it out. pre-baptismal conversations, the so-called, parents come for in order to baptize your children, and usually, yes, i ask, why do you need this? there are different answers, ranging from so that the child does not get sick and ending with some other answers, but ultimately, in the end, the answer can be formulated, in short , so that there is joy, so that there is happiness in life, because people understand , that this
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depth of being, the depth of life cannot be filled either with... smartphones, or canaries, or expensive foreign cars, because all this will ultimately be similar to how not i know that pouring gasoline on a fire, the more you pour it on, the more it flares up , the more it flares up, and the hunger for happiness only becomes greater, for real happiness, but only the grace of god, only a miracle, a true miracle of god, which is given to us in the sacraments, is capable. .. to fill this longing for happiness, and it seems to me that baptism, this very guarantee of happiness that should grow inside us, is what really has the real meaning, what is worth living for. you've touched upon the most important topic, father anthony, but i suspect that we will have to
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gather our thoughts on this matter again. today i thank you, alexey shmilyov, priest anthony borisov, i am vladimir ligoida, we were gathering... with thoughts about the holiday of the epiphany. happy holiday, dear friends. hello everyone, on the first channel of the podcast everyone wants to fly. and i am the host of this podcast, leonid yakubovich. today, my friends, you and i will not fly anywhere, we are in... in the debriefing area, we will talk today with the people who created an amazing film called air, the director of the film is alexey german, hello, the performer of one of the main roles is elena lyadova. hello, brothers. well, what can i say, unlike all the other films i
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have seen, uh, as far as i understand, the premiere will take place, it will be released on january 18, you tell me. we were surprised by this: i was somewhat wary when i started watching the film, because i thought that it would be another action movie with shooters, bullets, burning in the cockpit with wild screams and so on, you somehow moved away from this, you showed, perhaps, perhaps the most difficult part of this life on earth. lening blockade, girl pilots and girl technicians must show training, courage and self-sacrifice, not only breams, but also technicians, they need to give birth, braid their hair, but they are here, masha, why do you need war? what
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does it mean, why, how many of our people are slaughtered. you could fall in love with me, everything is fine, we attack, attack, but to love your homeland, it’s death to go, what is more important, like a person or a person,
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like you, isn’t it? girls, we beat the germans, i shot them down, you shot them down, you don’t believe in us at all, or do you feel sorry for me, please, my little one, please, fly, fly, fly, fly, airplane, fly, look how orderly they fly, it means everything is not in vain, come on. let's go somewhere and disappear. lena, with me. question for you: how did you feel in the cockpit during all these evolutions? despite the fact that this is all generally safe, this is filming, in
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general it wasn’t really still scary , they closed the cabin, it shook so that there were no cracks , everything was sealed, they closed it with screwdrivers, raised it to a height, probably meters 9-8 - on such a specialized crane, this simulator. let's call it that , the cabin of the plane, the wing was on fire, everything was shaking, the group was below, in fact i was scared, i understood that if something wrong happened, the guys wouldn't make it and i wouldn't be able to break out that window, definitely not i’ll jump out, it was scary , you’ve already shown the film in japan, yes, the japanese , how they watched a film about russian pilots, and about russians in general - at that time, well, in my opinion, it was wonderful, that is, they all empathized, watched without actually breathing ,
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the film was received very emotionally, and after the screening there were full halls when they asked questions, that is, it seems to me, very well, that is, very, don’t you think that behind all the events that happened since 1945... there were a huge number, the topic of the great patriotic war is somewhat erased from memory, but you took up this, why? well, for me it doesn’t get erased, for me it exists emotionally, i remember my deceased grandfather, my whole family fought, and my grandmother and my little mother crossed the front line, hid from the germans, that is, it lives in me and... empathy lives, and self-identification with the country, with the family, with the common destiny, it is in me, and i
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just often think about it, so for me it is absolutely such a crystal emotional, important component of life, there were three women’s regiments 586, 587, 588 aviation.
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and the fact that the story was written so simply, that’s probably why we took it on, i heard you say in one of the interviews that someone, one of the pilots suggested this story to you, or no, no, no , not pilots, they offered me, we thought for a very long time how to make, not just a film where there are photorealistic air battles, where there is physics, where there is gravity, but... how to make the film as if emotional, so that it, so that it does not let go of the viewer , and at the same time it was not empty, only when we groped for
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history, when we groped...

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