tv PODKAST 1TV January 26, 2024 11:55pm-12:41am MSK
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year we celebrated the anniversary of the theater, which has already turned 10 years old, in the film the air that is being released now, there are at least two moments in the film when a dialogue arises, what is more important, my personal condition or my homeland, this question is there twice it sounds, and it’s very bright, clear, and it seems to me that it’s just very relevant, because now this feeling of empathy, compassion, it’s very important, especially for the younger generation, and even more so for an actor, a future actor. because compassion, empathy is practically empathizing with your hero , whom you play, on the contrary, it helps you, if you are able to empathize, if tears arise from the situation, it would seem that this is not happening to you, this is happening to your hero, but you imagined this situation, this hero, cast yourself, and these tears become your tears, this is the moment of empathy, compassion, compassion, which, so to speak, on a global scale, very much helps the development of personality in general, so with... i
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recommend to students: look, delve into problems, delve into the pain of others, in order to experience the pain in the frame, the pain of the stage, be receptive to the pain of others, and this is what gives birth to the soul, the artist, the human soul in general. when i started watching the film air, the first thing i had was empathy for someone else’s pain, i didn’t watch it, well, in general, about this.
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why didn't you kill the german? well, i can't really. seventeen, what are you dreaming about? how do i dance, how do i go on stage alone? zhenya, do you still need love? could you fall in love with me? it's okay, let's attack! attack! but to love your homeland is death this? what is more important? is a person's homeland? homeland?
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isn't that the case with you? girls, we beat the germans, i shot them down, you shot them down, don’t you believe us at all, or do you feel sorry for me? please, my little one, please, lady, birdie, lady, birdie, fly the airplane, look how the buildings fly, it means everything is not in vain! let's fly somewhere and disappear. of course, this is a story that, with pain, such an unhealed wound, is still so serious. the meaning here is very important and now they are very important, of course. and those answers that...
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one way or another are still homeland, pain of my hero, there’s a wonderful female cast here, wonderful nastya talyzina, great work from lena lyadova here aglaya tarasovo, there’s such an amazing female cast here, they ’re like a female squadron, but the girls are wonderful, just great, great, i got to play the commander of a flight regiment, but it was a difficult task. on the one hand, don’t play the commander, lyosha said, don’t play the commander, but this is called externally playing the commander, and yet this is being tough on yourself when you don’t have the right humanly, you have no right to feel sorry, and this speaks from the inside, you are ready to regret, and those same rupees on the heart, they don’t heal, one scar, a second, a third, it’s because i’m constantly restraining myself, holding back, holding back. after this, you
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will begin to carry out combat missions to ensure the transport route, when you enter laduga, there will simply be no losses, there will be losses, but we will not retreat, leningrad is under siege, children, women, old people are being evacuated from the city, the city needs supplies and food, female pilots and girls technicians must show skill. courage and self-sacrifice, just don’t cry , otherwise i don’t like it when they cry, admit that the guys are dying, and the german is faster and that the engine is imperfect and what is expected from
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the designer, when will our engines be, because oil leaks when when, when, every time, every time, accept, accept what you cannot accept. the death of boys, girls, this is the most difficult test for him, as for a commander, a regiment, to see the death of young people completely, well, i won’t tell or anticipate, i advise watch, i was actually waiting for this film, because surprisingly, it came to the set of this film by accident, to see augmented reality, that is, special effects, technology, and i’m glad that in fact we were ahead of this. when we are proud of what technology is difficult to brag about, as they say, we were outdone a long time ago, but it turned out, it turned out that in principle you can outdo it, it turns out that we - made this led huge, that is, it is the height of a four-story house, you are 35 by 12 m, and there are
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ceiling screens, suspended, transportable screens, the real you in this fighter jet that rises to heights. just this four-story building in real combination with computer graphics, but there is no lame key, nothing is drawn here, this is a complete feeling of a real battle, and the angle of attack, everything is here, and with landings with smoke, that is, imagine what it is filming is impossible, because this is an absolutely real battle, that is, it is clear where the camera is, the reflection of light, the reflection of the sky, that is, this is not computer graphics.
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that in the cabin, yes, everything is absolutely natural, real, half-drawn, it’s all true, and of course it adds the effect of presence , we haven’t had anything like this before, of course, we continue the creative industry podcast and today we have sergei bezrukov in our studio, you know what i really wanted to ask when i watched this film is very atypical for us, for grown-up children. in the soviet years, for us, on the screen it was always heroes who uncompromisingly rushed on the plane, they were heroic, they were all steel, but here, and here we see on the screen a person who flies and is afraid, he is scared, the fact is that there are real emotions, yes, a novel, here, i remember the words of alexei,
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he said that war is about faces, when we say faces, it means they are people, no, it’s just detachment, and this is exactly what alexey emphasizes, people, faces, so here we see just real people with their experiences, commander, but his inner one is just there, there is a terrible world there, something with which he cannot agree, he has to, because that the order is not to take a step back, a very young girl, for the first time, what is it like to shoot at enemy, german, when you cannot, when my hero takes responsibility, responsibility, you must take this step , i take it from you responsibly, this is
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a terrible scene, of course, but the hero, realizing that i take this sin myself, i take it in order for you to do it, you must become a soldier, you must become a soldier, you must become a pilot, because if not you, then you, this is war, how do you take yourself, yes, you are a girl, absolutely, this is not her business, well... there is great love, love, yes, the feeling can be that very life, because for the hero there is order, there is a duty, his love, for example, from the heroine of the punished lyadova, these are two aces, two commanders, a female squadron and he is a regiment commander, these are two people who have known each other for a long time, who love each other, but i remembered how you i was a goat when i was young when i was landing, remember?
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guy, a pilot, has just died, i say, why should i live, there are more of your girls than these boys, here in the war there are no boys or girls, did you ever- then i dreamed that we there were boys, girls, now we have them, a terrible phrase, now we have a family, we have girls, there are boys, these are two loving people who are at war and... then he says: i dreamed about you, here this is some kind of tenderness, such a rather stern tenderness, because there is no sentimentality here , there is no time for sentimentality, there are problems, there are problems, the engine is not the same, and the engine is not ready yet, the planes are not yet, the planes are not yet the same, the enemy is ahead of us, because of this there is death, and yet this tenderness, which we don’t allow ourselves so much this tenderness, then further, well, i won’t say, because i read there that...
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for everyone who worked on it, so everyone would like to say thank you very much for the courage that they showed, this it’s like it’s not a film, it’s a real filming of the real conditions in which this film was filmed , so we see it on the screen, but the girls are filming there, how it was, how they endured such sports conditions, but i think that’s exactly what it’s like added just the effect of presence, because in general alexey’s handwriting absolutely...
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who played the main character, this is a new one, but what do you think, the main character, actress , movie star, she is a very resourceful artist, anastasia tolyzina, she, i have seen her in other roles, she has already played in many places, i think that for for her this is such a breakthrough, of course, of course, very talented, emotional, really lives everything, and accepting
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the story of her heroine as her personal drama, that is, she was really required... the very courage, both from her heroine and nastya needed the courage to survive all these the inhuman conditions that filming sometimes took place in. i came across one interview when you were not yet forty, and there you say, among other things, that you would really like to star in a real war movie, that’s how they fought for their homeland, there weren’t many war films, yes , and there were them in general, in june '41, and there was lieutenant burov, yes, actually. podolsk cadets, captain starchak, well, all these are small roles, ivanburkh, the central role, but still this - so, if you imagine, then this is of course very little, because for some reason everyone says that you have many military roles, and they say, well, no, if you don’t take general capel, but still there is a civil war, so there were not so many military men, but i’m waiting, i hope
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but the fact that the emphasis, like air in a film , is on a person, in addition to that very military detective story, which we already know in principle how it will end, is important for us now as who these people are, and this is this relationship between captain alyokhin, the main one in this group, counterintelligence, it’s clear that tamantsev and alekhin are adjacent, that’s how they are with each other, who they are, and i’m glad that nikita kologrev, who is now definitely... has become a star, and he will be there too, and he played tomantsev, and this role, of course, is one of the most interesting in his creative biography, because he is unusual there, this is serious. the work and his image of tomansky, of course, is impressive, simply because of the very difficult filming that took place and because of the character of this hero and what
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he experiences, his story with his mother, because, let's say in that work of august 44, there is nothing of this, there is a military detective, very powerful, superbly played, but here there is this emphasis, among other things and action, which is, of course, at a high technological level, people, people, people, and my hero , captain alyokhin, for whom, as it turned out, not everything is going well, and solving the problem that he has to give up internally, this inner world of the hero is very, very important, i’m glad that this is what the emphasis is on, like in the film, air, people, war - these are people, specific people, each individual person, heroes, yes, heroes, but behind each hero...
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he was able to say write, for this he was shot by the repressive, but my hero could not do this, despite the fact that two completely unique pilots , and my hero , indeed, is a very good pilot, but something is called, as they say, stepping on the throat of his own song, somewhere he was silent, when they burned there in the village, burned there, when he begins to remember from the past is what happened during the revolutionary years, that yes, they turned a blind eye to a lot , were silent, silent, but then he says:
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constantly, constantly, of course, you see your children in the film industry, then, i don’t promise, on the one hand you can’t say that no , i will never allow it, because we see magnificent dynasties, the wonderful yankovsky dynasty, when we look at the wonderful, amazing work of vanya yankovsky, and i was also an acquaintance, i acted with my grandfather, with alek ivanovich, i am so familiar with the dynasty, it turns out, with liza yankovskaya also starred together, and i told me this...
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and i see, i see empathy, for example, in styopa, for the sake of the feeling of empathy, just masha, an amazing dreamer, and i think that if the director, even the producer, the screenwriter, even very well, despite the fact that he will have the texture in anya, and this texture will of course be a very beautiful actress, if an actress, but how can i say, anya believes that after all the best director, screenwriter or producer, well , we’ll see, you can’t make any guesses here, this is, as they say, the way. the lord is inscrutable, well, who at what moment do we know, for example, or vasya, vasya has a very interesting character , he is a leo according to the horoscope, he is still more than two years old, but his character is a sense of rhythm, he drums,
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music, his hearing is wonderful, i don’t know how they play, how he also starts everything, well, everyone plays childhood, the performances are already in place in childhood, but still i notice that there is something special. i will take a closer look, if there is talent, if there are abilities, dad, the course leader, will help if there is talent and will take me to work, especially since my father worked with me, after all, he is mine the first, the most important teacher, then oleg pavlovich tabakov became involved, but the most important teacher, who taught me literally from the age of eight, even earlier, is my father, without a hand, god bless him, my father, who taught me everything, craft, but even he said, i remember his words, my dad even reminds me of this every time, even on the anniversary he reminded me, he says: if i hadn’t seen in you that you could
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empathize, i realized that... it’s necessary work further, then he began to work for me to enter the mkhat studio school, and then everything independent work at the studio school, my father did with me as a director, so all my work was professionally directed, and i carried out the will of my father’s director, and then oleg pavlovich tobakov got involved, who believed in me, he took me to the theater from the third year , i was already famous in the snuffbox, and further, further, further, further, but my father believed in me from the very beginning, so i also understand that when... i believe in my children, when i see this, then i i'll connect, you can understand that i she didn’t take the child because of the money , they somehow forgot that you are a murderer, and your daughter will visit you, well, i just heard that she had a young man there, it seems to me that she has no time for you at all, she’s not an adult , bro, you want to live a good life, chicks, clothes, cars, so, well , if you want, i’ll give you money so you can get away from her, which is serious, the amount is stuck, don’t yell, i’m saying, where did the grandmothers screw up the scheme...
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together, a common debt comes out, container, new episodes, on sunday on the first, here is everything you need to sign, and we go our separate ways, as you wanted, or i can destroy you, return you to where i picked you up, veda vodka, a product of the stellar group. we continue the conversation with sergei bezrukov, with you, the host of the creative industry podcast, elena kiper and roman harmanov, with which the theater approached its tenth anniversary, i think that firstly, it is its audience, because a theater without an audience is impossible, with us it can to be one of the most accessible theaters in moscow for spectators, because it is literally 15 minutes from taganka to
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kuzminki, and you leave kuzminki. in the theater for people who are blind or visually impaired, there is, of course, the running line, there are special screens for deaf and mute people and for people with disabilities in the musculoskeletal system, there is an elevator, there are ramps and there is a place where to place it in the hall, which also happens... moreover, this is how since the acting experience that the artist receives is very interesting work in my opinion, and thanks to the guest directors, what i came up with for them, because i also work in different genres so as not to get tired, drama, i have phantasmogoria, i have krauks
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a performance, let's say, energetic people, when the audience sings along with the artists, hits of the seventies, sashka ruchekov staged, here , by the way, i invite dogs to the fall, very interesting work, driving with excellent acting, because it is very important for me that after all, the director died in the artist, as konstantin sergeevich stanislavsky bequeathed, the director must die in the artist, not the director, here i am the director, the artist, in fact, the poor people there don’t know how to justify all this, and we come, yes, director’s work, no, director. after all, in the second place, of course, there is an unexpected production, an unexpected interpretation of the decision, but still, in the end, the actor comes out, and you have to be with the actors, so each director brings his own. what did you take with you - to your theater from your mentors, from your teachers? i think that this is just a family relationship, if oleg pavlovich was always a father to us in tabakerka , dad, and they call me in the province too.
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father, these artists are the same children, the same children who need to be taken care of, you need to think, i literally passed by there , i was on the phone in worries, i literally didn’t pay attention, that’s all, it’s a sleepless night, it’s the feeling that they didn’t look at me, they looked at me, it means something has changed, the attitude has changed , it means there will be no more roles, it means everything is not needed, they didn’t give me a certificate, let’s say, my god, certificates. got it, but for an actor , attention, if suddenly something is wrong, it’s a blow, it’s a very serious blow, an emotional blow, so this attention, care, always at the right moments is very important come up, say kind words , a year and a half ago, i think, i came to avgig, i got there completely by accident, sergei bezrukov was running around the first floor, worried that not all
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applicants who were worthy, they... somehow fit into this quota , which is always there, and it was clear that it was just, well, just pain and well, well, something needs to be done about it, in a geek - what else appeared? thanks to vladivich malyshev, thank you very much for what he offered me, i can say that i have matured, of course, because i worked in the theater already in the provincial one, as a director-teacher, they are all different, all theater schools are different, i am a moscow art theater student, karina andolenka, i also graduated from moscow art theater, all the other guys who graduated there, some graduated from yaroslavskaya, who else where, for example, anton khabarov, shchebkinskaya graduated, that is , they are all actors from other theater schools, but we work in the same team, that’s all.
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of residence, sincerely and truly, that’s why i was ready on the one hand, a year ago, when vich called and said, shouldn’t i take you on a course in vgik, i don’t think for long, i’m fast, quick, on the leg on the rise, he said , okay, i scored, but there is still such an opportunity, and i am glad that thanks to the sponsors and support, because all the guys study with me for free, i met somewhere with you that the most important thing now is - yes, in fact , at all times, this is the only thing left for us in general of the present, this sincerity, now i think that this is something that , thank god, we haven’t adopted from the nineties, how i’m fine
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over my shoulder, i don’t like it when they’re on the floor. or when the conversation was interrupted, i don’t like it when people shoot from behind, i’m also against shots. boron, i don’t like it when they shoot in the back, i hate gossip, sabotage, worms, doubts, sometimes needles, or when everything is against the grain, or when iron is on glass, i don’t like confidence. not well-fed, it’s better to let me turn off the brakes, it’s annoying to me
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, since the word honor is written down, since it’s in honor to slander behind the back , it’s annoying to me , since the word honor is written down, since it’s in honor to slander behind the back when i see. broken wings, there is no pity in me and i won’t forgive, i don’t like violence and without force, it’s just that. but the crucified christ,
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i don’t like myself when i’m a coward, but for the same reason they never drink innocent people, i don’t like it when i they get into the soul, especially when they spit in... i don’t like arenas and arenas, millions are exchanged for rubles in them, even if there are big changes ahead, i will never love it. hello, dear tv viewers, the podcast is live.
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first of all, probably, maggie, let’s start with you, a song was played, this is your music, yes, tell me what vasovsky means to you, first of all i want to say that i accept him for every manifestation of him in his work, i can’t somehow separate, there is poetry, music, theater, for me it’s all a whole, and as for this songs, in childhood, my father, the kingdom of heaven , he is not alive now, but i should listen to kony’s song and i don’t like it, i heard it, that’s exactly what i don’t
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like, for me everything was accepted, i accepted it all, for an eight-year-old child - this is such a very complex composition, but i accepted it straight away, and how this melody of yours was born, and the melody in my head was spinning for a long time, spinning for a long time, because i reviewed everything, then... the performance and so on, i thought , if i make it, i want this melody, in my own way i do it i did it according to my vision, according to my feelings, as if i had said this after so many years, and visotsky himself is a very dear soul to me, and somehow i revived him with this melody.
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we always open the podcast melody of my life with a song from childhood, it seems to me that the most prominent representatives here in vysotsky’s repertoire are a conversation on tv, when a married couple watches the circus on television, and morning exercises, let's listen together and watch morning exercises performed by vladimir vysotsky, who has deep arms. hurry 3-4 vigor of two playing plastic restorative in the morning sobering, if you are still alive, gymnastics , if you are in your apartment lying on the floor three or four times, perform the movements correctly,
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avoid outside influences, get used to the outside, in the deepest sense, smearing is a question. the beaked giraffe that was given to us was called zhora, guess where i am, the stumpy one, well yes, we had a giraffe, here’s a song, in the yellow heat of africa, which is called a large giraffe, so i and i was sure that this
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song was about him, about this giraffe of ours, yellow hot africa, in its central part, something suddenly happened out of schedule. my relatives will not be happy with her, don’t blame me, i’ll leave the herd, there was a lot of barking and barking, only an old parrot shouted loudly from the witches, big yesterday, he knows better, because my brother arkady and i, that’s him , here is
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arkady, and that is, we were jumping on the bed big, they threw this giraffe at the ceiling, my father played and... we were, that is, we were absolutely happy, that’s why, probably this is it, but, but in fact i heard other things, i repeat, and somehow it was, it wasn’t and i generally took it calmly, you know, when when a big one is seen from a distance, yes, face to face, you can’t see the face, and uh, well, he sings, he sings, yes , i saw that people love, or what, even as a child, the nannies in kindergarten asked me to sing something like that, did they want something like that? here but i am this and suddenly i i heard some songs in the pioneer camp there, i was probably eight years old and i say dad, you wrote it, he says that and i say ships came into our harbor , so he says you’re crazy, this is a classic, you should and he’s coming, that means and seva abdulov is sitting behind his friend playing the guitar and he is driving
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