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i was careful when i started watching the film , because i thought that it would be another action movie with shooting games, bullets, burning in the cockpit, with wild screams and so on, you somehow moved away from this and showed, perhaps, perhaps the most difficult part of this life on the ground. leningrad is under siege, female pilots and female technicians must show training , courage and self-sacrifice, not only pilots, but also technicians, they need to give birth, braid their hair, but they are here, masha, why do you need war, you lived richly, what do you mean why? , how many of our people are gibnik, why are you are you sending the girls, are they not ready yet?
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“i would give them time to master, give me an order, protect the road, anyone with me, why didn’t you kill the german, well, i can’t survive, i’m going into the clouds, the seventeenth, what do you dream about, how i dance, how i go out on stage alone, zhenya , love is all needed, you could fall in love with me, everything is fine, we attack, attack, but to love the homeland, this is death, what is more important is whether a person has been passed through, it has been passed through, isn’t it so with you, girls, we beat the germans, i shot down, you shot down.
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don’t you believe us at all, or do you feel sorry for me? please, my little one, please fly, fly, fly, fly, airplane, fly, look at how the building is flying, it means everything is not in vain, let’s fly somewhere and disappear. lena, i have a question for you: how did you feel in the cockpit during all these evolutions? despite the fact that this is all generally safe, this is filming, in general it was still scary, they closed the cabin, it shook, so that there were no cracks, everything was sealed, they closed it with screwdrivers. lifted to a height of probably
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nine to eight meters, on such a specialized crane, this one the simulator, let's call it that, the cabin of the plane, the wing was on fire, everything was shaking, the group was below, in fact i was scared, i understood that if something wrong happened, the guys wouldn’t make it and i wouldn’t be able to break out that window for sure i won’t jump out, it was scary. you have already shown the film in japan, yes , the japanese, how they watched a film about russian pilots, and about russians in general, at that time, well, in my opinion, it was wonderful, that is, they all empathized, watched, without actually breathing, but very emotionally the film were accepted, and after the show the halls were full when they asked questions, that is, it seems to me that... very
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good, that is, very, don’t you think that for all the events that have occurred since 1945, there have been a huge number of them, the topic of the great patriotic war is somewhat erased from memory, and you took up this, why? well, for me it doesn’t get erased, for me it exists emotionally, i remember my deceased grandfather, i have everything...
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the component of life was three women’s regiments 586, 587, 588 - fighter aviation, bomber and... light night bombers, you chose 586, this is the regiment - fighter pilots who worked on the yak-1b, then there was the yak-3, yak-7, but why was this fighter regiment taken as the basis for the plot of the film, well, you know, well, firstly, the script turned out that way, secondly, we had wonderful paintings about night witches, there were. we all know it, we’ve seen everything, thirdly, the yak itself is a legendary plane, absolutely, and the plane is also in its own way the hero of the film, so in combination with the plane, in my opinion,
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there are insufficiently told stories about women fighters, and what's here so... the story has been written , that’s probably why we got involved, in one of the interviews i heard you say that someone, one of the pilots told you this story, or no, no, no, no , not one of the pilots , they offered me, we thought for a very long time how to make not, not just a film, where there are photorealistic air battles, where there is physics, where there is gravity, but also how to make the film as if emotionally? so that he, so that he does not let the viewer go, and at the same time it is not empty, only when we have found the history, when we have found the technology, then we agreed very slowly , we started working, we spent a very long time restoring, and
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building the planes, because we don’t have any living yak-1bs, we have one, which had modifications at that time, now, in my opinion , another one has been restored, and we built 12b. because we created airfields, created this regiment, very close to the original, as far as possible, and it was like a whole, whole life that we lived, i was completely dumbfounded by your preparatory period, how long did it last? well for quite a long time i think that for probably a year and a half, we were preparing, well, we first started preparing in a small group, there were about seven or eight people there, we started. e look for airplanes flying on the wing, we began to come up with a technology for filming in detail , we began to design how we would build these models of airplanes, we looked at a lot of regions of russia regarding where we would film, we were looking for
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artists for a long time, because in addition to wonderful actresses known throughout the country, our film also stars cadets. academy precisely because we needed people with poise and understanding that it’s like discipline with faces, you know, it always frightens me very much in films about war when women appear who have recently cheated themselves, so to speak, of everything, that you can cheat, who have teeth whiter than white, and skin of some kind of incredible softness, it seems to me that this is, well, not... no, not very, not very good, and then we looked all over the country for actors for small roles , and for one of the main roles - we found the wonderful kristina lopshina in omsk, here in general, so there was a long, long, long preparation, i mean by the words,
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i was completely dumbfounded, this is what you set up, i'm not convinced that anything like that exists anywhere in the world. this screen is the size of a four-story building, as far as i’m concerned, plus everything, this whole apparatus that rotates the plane, we did some engineering, that is, a rather complex structure, invented specifically for the film, lifted and a plane weighing a ton, and this is the most our simple gimble to a height and further untwisted and...
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make some efforts that weren’t required, in general, it really helped
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when your wing is on fire, everything is screwed up, oil in your face, also smoke, there are fires, yes, of course, well, there were moments when i think you those who were sitting in the cockpit didn’t really like it, but yes, if i may say so, they went out of character, we could, we had such technology that we could do quite a lot. when it seemed to us that there was, no, this never happened with lenna, in no case was it always lazy, but when it seemed to us that there was some kind of tune, i say, we shake the plane, in fact, this is physics, this is overload, it’s kind of quite difficult to control, and well, we tried to build a story about the efforts of concentration, so to speak. in general, we had a lot of technology, we had a whole scene
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of a fire, a henkel bomber inside, it didn’t go in there for various reasons, and of course we filled it with smoke, there was a fire, but the whole, well, kind of a whole, whole thing, the minister of foreign affairs of poland and radoslaw sekorski simply have laziness in their blood; the russian is initially vicious and uneducated. the plan is a confrontation between the collective west and russia, which has never stopped. sekorsky unexpectedly
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says that it is necessary to transfer the economy to a war footing. this is a corrupt skin that is ready to surrender its sovereignty. radoslaw sekorski, not a helicopter, but also american. dolls of the heir tutti. on monday on the first. old barrel cognac is a product of stellar group. we are now, dear friends, present on a podcast, everyone wants to fly, which is on channel one, and we are talking about the film air, which, fortunately, i saw, and you will see on january 18th. i assure you, this film is a must see, and i envy in advance those who have not seen it yet, because you will get the mood, the feelings that i already did. experienced, today we have here, the director of the film alexey german, the performer of one of
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the main roles elena lyadova. yes, we continue , but it’s just hard physical work, where you were filming, i understand the sensations, especially when it shakes, pumps, twists, turns, gradually, psychophysically, you find yourself in that situation, you can see it in your eyes, it was not played, i saw how the shoulder... went away, i understood where your hand was, but the reflexive movements of the head, i was convinced that you were in the cockpit, well, we rehearsed this, we had consultants, we had consultants, we roughly understood what kind of load it could be, i imagined that i had lifted the heaviest thing in my life, oh, what a pity that you didn’t have a twin so that someone could lift you up, oh, what a pity , you know, the book may not work very well, we considered the option... we came to the conclusion that
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there are more production disadvantages, why? because when we were filming this story, i can set an actor on fire, for example, and blow smoke, blow oil, this, this, this, this, this is important. plus, so to speak, i can spin an artist, say an armless one, at a fairly high speed, i think her pressure was 200. he came out, but he held on very courageously, but he had a moment that i understand that i can lower this structure, it seems that eyes will burst, and at the same time i , the artist, can rest, and we can repeat the same story again, probably the most the hard thing was to make sure that all these air battles were photorealistic,
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so that there was no feeling of computer graphics, we have... a lot, including in the material and filming of real planes, and excuse me, in general you are against computer graphics, you you know, i spent several years of life and analysis on the history of aerial photography, and i came to an amazing result, which is that graphics are more expensive than filming. high-quality aircraft models than filming real airplanes and so on, not only that, unfortunately, graphics, not always, even in very expensive american films with budgets of 100 million, sometimes you look and think, well, this is a cartoon, damn it, this is visible, and so
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to speak, in fact, we came up with a rather interesting technology , when we have... there are air battles, then first we have former air force pilots, that’s all, it all took place on yaks 52, yeah, at maximum speed, so to speak, in line with the behavior of pilots of the great patriotic war, then on their space one on one we inserted 3d models of aircraft so that there would be no the sensations when the plane goes on rails, it doesn’t go on rails, but how... there is, there is turbulence, there is a kind of inertia, there is a sensory weight of the plane, it’s almost impossible to catch, but the problem with many films is that including, unfortunately, ours, when computer graphics are made, latently we do not feel the weight, and
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accordingly, we went in this way, this is a very multi-component picture. plus when we had bombings, we launched yakh 52, which then slightly we modified it with a computer, but when filming is going on and the artists are supposedly in a trench or somewhere else, a real plane is passing low over you, yeah, then you behave more authentically, because first of all it ’s more scary, just scary, but -secondly , you don’t need to depict... this is where we’ll launch a drawn plane, no, here it is , it’s coming at you, it’s rushing towards you, at the same time something explodes, and this gives some kind of authenticity, and if this is an amazing thing that i discovered for myself, simply from the point of view of production economics, launching real planes is many times cheaper
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than drawing the same thing, just many times cheaper, i understand that this is a profession, but... nevertheless, have you ever regretted taking on this? now i’m asking about this block that you made? well, i had moments, and not that i was afraid, but you know, sometimes you come to filming, you are flooded there or something else, and you...
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because in troubled times it’s all somewhere, somewhere- then it disappeared, so some units remained, or a remake remained, this remake is visible -
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we built the models correctly , did everything correctly, this is the caspian sea, we will play a dagestan wedding, this is our wedding
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suit imitation circassian mountain tuxedo, thin and delicate organza that will cover the bride, shuana and akhmed are avars, we will play the wedding according to customs one of the most ancient settlements of dagestan, aul, czech, and here there will be our photo zone made from a dagestan carpet. carpet, only instead of a wall we will have mountains, well, the sausage already needs to be cooked, a matchmaker without sausage as it happens, there is a special czech lizginka, there is a step, a step, i imagined, hands like this, once, so cheerful, we need to prepare the wedding, our premiere, we are playing the wedding, tomorrow is the first one. borborsman, a product of the stelar group, we are now
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on the first channel in the podcast, everyone wants to fly, in the debriefing area, we have the director of the film air, alexey german, i perform one of the main roles, elena lyadova, and i am the presenter. leonid yakubovich the preparatory period was about 3 years, yes, we told somewhere, no, well, we, well, how to count, from the date, as it were, as we we started working, before the script, during the script, i think that if we accumulate everything for 2 and a half years, probably, and the construction of this entire huge set, well, that would be, well, yes, well, we designed it in advance for a very long time. this is interesting, in fact, we set up a workshop for creating models, models of yakov and mister shmitov, and this
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story took a year, because there were several unsuccessful prototypes, because when we first started recreating the yak, the first the plane was made with a mistake, it was just in short, and lena is the artist of the painting, she saw it. then we called this plane good, and we set it up, we turned it around specially so that i could see it, we set it at the farthest edge of the airfield, which means that then we put the aircraft on the production line, then it took a very long time to fine-tune them, technological holes, hatches, texture , blowing, scratches on the screw. and it was like an endless, endless, endless story, so to speak, there were screws from that time, so that not... so that
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no, the screws that sometimes fastened something were not visible, and i still see in the picture two or three screws that i missed, i understand that no one sees them, i understand that they are small, small self-tapping screws, only i know that they are there, but every time i reproach myself that i was passing by and didn’t notice, it was a very complicated story, how to simulate the acceleration of a plane so that it would take off, because because.
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production designer, well, they really did, they did a colossal job in all the details, in everything - starting from the creation a reliable trench, and a reliable suit, and uh, in all its dirt and what really happened, ending with the creation, the creation of a rather large airfield. you are right, because one way or another the eye glides over the little things and these little truths create the general truth of this whole story, and this can be seen, well, i can tell you that in fact there are many secrets that we tried to understand, we thought a lot , when you make a model of an airplane, when you are building it, it is clear that centimeter centimeter, everything is where it is needed and so on
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next, the question is how to paint? that it was so, that is, simply even from the point of view of the amount of varnish, the choice of paint, the choice, the choice of the degree of glossiness, not glossiness, then the feeling of authenticity depends, there were a lot of options for painting airplanes, just a huge research work, well, can i put in my 3 cents, in fact, well, in the filming of other films, of course , the director is always important and the main one, and he commands when
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to start... he talked about how he built airplanes, didn’t want graphics, lena created threads, fabrics, and we, as artists, were simply witnesses to the fact that some special, well, of course artistic, fictional, well, some especially artistically fictional, truthful documentary world was being created, it was difficult for us to lie there, it was just, you know, it’s amazing
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how... the topic you touched on hurts me, well, not only am i crazy, i’m in love with the sky, once and for all, that’s for sure, but when we were filming a film about the girls of the 588th regiment, however, this biplane of the legendary aircraft designer nikolai polikarpov was not intended for combat actions, an open cabin without armored backs, with a low-power engine, what did they call it? its disadvantages will turn into an advantage, i flew on it for three days, as you know, the maximum number of combat sorties per shift they had was about 18, about twenty, i was completely exhausted on the sixth, in the summer the open cockpit, the oncoming jet from the engine, from the propeller , i'm freezing. and at
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-25, the lack of communication in general of any era of technology mechanics with bare hands conveyed this feeling of human existence in inhuman conditions, which i have directly i have a lump in my throat, thank you very much , because i believed it, but you also put incredible work on yourself, you started filming in the winter, lena won’t let you assemble it, we wanted to make
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an ice airfield, since the film is connected with the siege of leningrad, including the road of life , and we built a sled, which means we were prepared. roads of life, we developed heating points, which means there was a huge decoration work, we developed an airfield and this year the ice did not freeze at all, then we built our airfield on the shore and in the winter monstrous storms began, all our planes it was blowing away, and we built a runway, it was flooded, not only that we have more than just yaks. in the film, in addition to mr. shmitov , there are 2, there is a piece of 2, there is an i16 and a huge three-ton model - that means silt 2 in the wind his wing was torn off and the
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guys were lying there, 10 people just piled on, 10 people each held the wing, because then we didn’t if they could restore this plane, we had shift cancellations, i remember, in my opinion, lena arrived without any hands. arrived, we are flooded, yes, we ran along the logs, it comes to the gulf of finland, they literally grabbed the cameras , they dismantled the tent with the monitors right before our eyes, they ran, the water came right in minutes, there in one of the frames that i saw, there are stills from the filming period, when you shouted very loudly, stop, it’s filmed, the shift is over.
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that the relationship in the group was probably wonderful, everyone just wanted to star in this film, but it seems to me that everyone somehow partially understood that they were some kind of link, paint in some very important matter, and despite the cold , some possibly uncomfortable conditions, well, how for actors, yours...
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that, among other things, i would just like to lie down, well, because there is a lot, a lot of hard work, a lot of hard work, i want to tell you that from our entire conversation, without lying, i can say that i am overwhelmed with the desire to wish everyone to watch this film, because god knows, it’s worth it, once again, we are on the first channel in the podcast, everyone wants... together with the director of the film air alexei german with one of the main performers elena ilyadova, brother, thank you so much for coming, secondly, and firstly, for the fact that you gave
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me the opportunity to spend a very good almost one and a half hours there, i watched it with pleasure, well, maybe because for me, i repeat once again, as well as for... the sore subject of war, plus everything that happens with the air, in general, i got pleasure, and i sincerely tell you guys, thank you, i have it sitting here, i’ll probably watch it once again, all the best, thank you very much for being with us, everyone on the podcast wants to fly, i hope you get exactly the same pleasure, as i do, from watching the film air, although any recommendations in all likelihood are not worth a penny lumanny, but nevertheless i recommend that you go to the cinema.
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dear friends, the creative industry podcast is on air on channel one, with you, as always, its host elena kiper, producer and video director, and roman karmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and media manager, our guest today is people’s artist russia. artistic director of the moscow provincial theater sergei bezrukov. hello hello. hello. let's start, perhaps, with glorious anniversaries, well , firstly, the anniversary occurred at the end of last year, this is a personal 50th anniversary, this is a glorious milestone, of course, a glorious 100 years, and 50 is still half a century, how do you generally feel about your anniversary, firstly, in work, in work, i think that an anniversary is for... for 100 years or 80, let’s say, well, 80 is possible, although it’s better at
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90, if you live, you have to work at 50, if you’re still capable working at 50 is better than work and i celebrated at work, and as for the anniversary in theater itself, they congratulated me, the artists still couldn’t stand it, they congratulated me, although i said that i wouldn’t celebrate, but they asked me to still come to the theater on this, not on this day, but later, they just anyway they gathered, they congratulated me, and they did a skit, everything was very touching, sweet, because for them i... who thinks of us absolutely as a dear person, i also created the provincial theater, in any case, this is the attitude towards artists, like my own father, and for me, of course , it’s an anniversary, i say, let’s still be to celebrate the theater’s anniversary, okay, and then the theater’s anniversary happened, the theater’s anniversary, but here we are on the 12th of january.
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especially because compassion, empathy - this is practically empathy for your hero whom you play, on the contrary, it helps you if you are able to empathize, if tears arise from the situation, it would seem that this is not happening to you, this is happening to your hero, but you imagined this situation, this hero, imposed yourself, and these tears become your tears, this is the moment empathy, compassion, compassion, which , so to speak, on a global scale, greatly helps the development of personality, in general, so i recommend this to my students:
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look, delve into the problems, delve into the pain of others, in order to experience the pain in the frame , the pain of the stage, be receptive to the pain of others, and this is what gives birth to the soul, the artist, the human soul in general, when i started watching the film, the first thing i had was empathy for someone else’s pain, i didn’t watch it at all.
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why didn’t he kill the german, i can’t live, what do you dream about, how i dance, how i go on stage alone? you need love, you could fall in love with me, everything is fine, we attack, attack, but to love your homeland is mortal, what is more important is whether a person is wired, you are wired, isn’t
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it? girls, we whitewashed the germans, i shot down, you shot down, don’t believe in us at all, or do you feel sorry for me, please, my little one, please, fly, fly, fly, fly, airplane, fly, look how slender they fly, that’s all not in vain, let's fly somewhere and disappear. of course, this is a story that is so painful, an unhealed wound, all the same so serious, the meaning here is very important, now they are very important, of course, and those answers that one way or another still exist, the homeland, the pain of my hero, there is
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a wonderful female cast here, wonderful. it was a difficult task, but on the one hand, not to play the commander, lyosha said, not to play the commander, but this is called the external role of playing the commander, and yet there is this harshness towards yourself when you don’t have the right.
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after this, you will begin to carry out combat missions to ensure the transport route when entering laduga, simply not there will be, there will be losses, but we will not retreat, leningrad is under siege , children, women, old people are being evacuated from the city, the city needs supplies and food, female pilots and female technicians must...
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you can’t let the guys and girls die, this is the hardest test for for him, as for a commander, a regiment, to see the death of young people completely, well, tell me and i won’t anticipate, i advise you to watch, i was actually waiting for this film, because surprisingly, it ended up on the set of this film by chance to watch augmented reality, that is, special effects, technology.

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