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this idea, but now we continue about pushkin’s rings, which means we still have them, but again a ring that doesn’t exist, which is well known, because after pushkin passed away, his widow allowed us to take it as a souvenir some things of alexander sergeevich and different people got different things, including a ring with turquoise from pushkin, which went to konstantin danza.
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this means that it was actually ordered by pavel voenovich nashchekin, the closest moscow friend of alexander sergeevich pushkin, ordered it was in the spring of 1836, when pushkin was in moscow for the last time, and pushkin really appreciated this gift, so, of course, it was a very valuable thing, and yes danzas was very upset when this happened, he understood when he lost it , he paid the cab driver in the winter, and he had a ring with...
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this stone was considered a stone that protected against violent death, and as konstantin danzas claimed, on the day of the duel, just on january 27, pushkin went to the duel without wearing this ring, we continue podcast precious history, today we are talking about the rings of alexander sergeevich pushkin, ekaterina is with you today. the author of books on this topic, and i, the director of the all-russian museum of alexander sergeevich pushkin, sergei nekrasov. we have, to our great joy , unlost rings, two unlost rings, which are again kept in the collections of your museum, and one of them, of absolutely extraordinary beauty with an emerald, this ring, therefore, is depicted in tropinin’s portrait of the year twenty-seven. here are two
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rings on his right hand, on his big one finger of the right hand, this is just the ring with the emerald that we just saw, the second ring, as contemporaries, so to speak, contemporaries recognized vorontsova ’s lost ring in it, but then we’ll talk about it separately, well, the ring with the emerald, what if i may say two more words, i want to say a ring with an emerald, it really was one of pushkin’s favorite objects, it went to vladimir ivanovich dahl, he said this ring was pushkinskaya, he already wrote about it at the end of 1837. that when he looks at him, then sparks run from his heels to his head, and he wants, dali wrote, to get down to something decent, that is, this pushkin ring, it did good and encouraged him to
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do good deeds, which dali wrote very well about, well, in general it is considered, that the emerald, according to... the calendar of stones , should belong to people who were born in may, so pushkin was born on may 26, and we know that when he ended up in exile in mikhailovskoye, it means that he wrote to his brother the lion all the time, asked to send this particular ring, nothing, it means my brother didn’t sent, and that is, we understand that this is a ring, we don’t know where pushkin got it from, maybe he bought it, ordered it, someone gave it to him, but the ring... that this ring is broken, but it’s clear that
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so to speak , no one will give it as a gift or buy it, so to speak, it’s good that it’s acquired in the process of wearing life , there are such things, and i keep thinking, in fact, where this chip could have come from. maybe pushkin, he was a temperamental man, he would bang on the doorframe in a bad mood, maybe he would give fatherly punishment for his servant, i don’t know, but i like the hooligan version, on the right hand, on the thumb, yes, this ring was, well , not only did they open the champagne with sabers , they opened it with rings, perhaps this chip just happened from opening the champagne, which pushkin revered and loved. one thing is indisputable, that pushkin really loved this ring, one of his favorites, yes, and that means i was twice able to be in this precious storeroom, in his museum, and see, which means this ring, yes, but it was absolutely necessary in that period when you they wrote a book about these rings, it was necessary
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, this is absolutely an impression, because you can’t touch it, but when you can look up close, yes, it’s completely different, and i measured it with a ruler, which means the size of this... diameter, i turned out to be 19.5, i went to the jewelry store, literally around the corner, they gave me a handful like grapes, where these rings hang, well, with different sizes, and they chose 19.5, i decided to figure out what size there was a ring, i just saw it, and this ring is 19.5, here it is, here is the same ring as on my finger, that is, we understand that the size of pushkin’s hand was the same as mine, that is, this is a very small hand, i have a small hand, but... for a man this is completely small, now we can tell you, the second ring , which means we still have pushkin’s, is also in sergei mikhailovich’s funds, it is the so-called raevskaya volkonskaya ring, although initially it, therefore,
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belonged to alexander sergeevich, and is unknown, where did it come from, when did it appear, most likely during a trip to crimea in the caucasus when he was sent. a business trip from st. petersburg in the twentieth year, glory , yes, here it is, he met his friends raevsky, with them he continued the trip, the excursion, in principle , then there were also black diggers and divers for ampharas, because in fact, marya nikolaevna raevskaya then , because this stone, that is, i also looked at it quite closely, it is very similar to the ancient one, there are three cupids that sit down in...
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they fight, we know, so to speak, they are trying to guess, so to speak, the solution to the relationship maria nikolaevna and pushkin, whether they had love, did not, well, in fact, raevskaya herself has already said so. and pushkin gave this ring to the lottery, and maria nikolaevna won it, this is such a completely unromantic story. well, just like that, anyone, so to speak, who was there, could win, but at the same time, she soon
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married prince volkonsky, sergei gerovich, and, who participated in the performance on senate square in the year twenty-fifth, then dared, one of first, went to siberia for him, with this ring, this ring passed through siberia, returned from there, inherited it to his son, mikhail sergeevich , then to his grandson, the grandson passed it on... and adding that he received this ring as a gift, by the time he graduated from high school, that is, there was still such a detail, well, in general, carnelian is considered as if from the russian word rejoicing from the heart and a stone of love, and many lovers, it means , preferred this stone, but as, so to speak, such a significant gift, and in fact , we have a third ring... it may also be the first in life of pushkin, second, i don’t know here, vrontsov’s ring, so
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called, again, it is called that, it is also carnelian, yes, that is, from the heart love, according to the general version, it means that pushkin was given a ring by elizaveta varantsov, the spouse, the governor of novorossiysk little russia, yes, so supposedly they had some- then your relationship. as a sign, so to speak , of some kind of true sympathy, she gave this ring, and pushkin also called it a talisman, even dedicated poems, poems, he made a drawing of this ring, which is also , so to speak, such a drawing is rare, ring vorontsov, on the finger, on the index finger, just like that, here we have a drawing, on the index finger... and two poems talisman, one was written immediately as soon as he received it as a gift, and the other is
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a memory after some time , in general , pushkin wrote in his love face, he wrote to elizaveta ksaverina vorontsova, more than all 14 poems, so of course there was undoubtedly a romantic relationship here, pay attention, for memory there is a print with a plaster copy. that very genuine ring we are talking about now speech, here is the date 1899, and shlyapent, one of the employees, one of the teachers of the imperial alexander lyceum, who especially told us about this here, we have several prints of this ring, but unfortunately there is no ring, but we have sergei mikhailovich image on the portrait.
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uh, then it already belonged to other people, finally it ended up in a museum, the first pushkin museum of russia, a museum under the imperial alexander, and you can read that in 1917, during the revolutionary events, it disappeared, since there really was a corresponding incident, this is not entirely true, because it was stolen, it was like this...
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we assume that this ring is there, there is also an image of zhukovsky, one with a ring, and there is a posthumous image of pushkin, also presumably with this ring, this is a portrait of pushkin, which was created by the artist mather in 1839, that is, 2 years after the death of alexander
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sergeevich pushkin, and it was pavelich nashchokin who posed for the artist mather, but... here very it is important to emphasize that he posed in this very pushkin archoluk, with the very ring that is presented here, it must be said that ivan sergeevich turgenev, when before him it was dash lokoltsa, he was going to make it such, well, a passing prize for great russian writers, which is why ivan sergeevich turgenev wanted the ring to pass to the lion nikola after his death.
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for some reason, don’t give the ring, but give it to the museum, well, that’s also good, i didn’t leave it in the museum, but in any case, so to say, turgenev’s will was violated, this is what happens when a non-russian person tries to understand the russian soul, as a result the ring took revenge, it disappeared, because it was left without the hand of the next one, called fat, well, a genius or a talented person in the opinion of levan... nikolaevich. you are watching the precious stories podcast and my host, director of the all-russian pushkin museum sergei mikhailovich nekrasov and i am ekaterina varkan. well, after all, pushkin is still with us in crimea with vorontsova and is waiting his expulsion from the spouse of the governor-general.
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well, the governor-general herself is
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... evil, that means, well, since she’s the boss, that means she’s evil, yes, she expelled him for an epigram, for atheism and for wanting to beat off his wife, well, for no reason at all, yes, as a matter of fact, that’s , but there are also such interesting documents , letters from vorontsov to his friend antonovich fonton, and i really want to read these letters, not letters, but fragments, we, unfortunately, have very little time, but some fragments, but i think this is very interesting. precisely from the point of view of understanding vrontsov’s attitude towards pushkin and, in general, his kind of inner deep dignity of respect for the mind. in general, vrontsov writes to fonton: the legacy of our good inzov continues to cause me a lot of trouble, each of us must pay his tribute to youth, but
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pushkin is extending his youth too much, and he, of course, has talent, besides, we must give justice to pushkin, he speaks russian perfectly, our language sounds positively beautiful, and it will continue to be great, who knows, maybe we’ll start soon correspond in russian, but this... regarding such simply interesting remarks, here is one letter dedicated to a very famous story, when pushkin was very irritated by this story, when he was sent on a business trip to count sorancha, he considered it beneath his dignity, although he was an ordinary private an official, all officials served and followed instructions, so to speak, and pushkin was listed as an official, he himself wrote that i never lifted a finger, i did nothing, i perceive this salary as... a scholarship for the fact that i cannot engage in trading in moscow in st. petersburg, this is known, so, that means, vorontsov’s thoughts on this matter in a letter to his friend,
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he cannot become an official, but they made all sorts of concessions to him and did not bother him with work , but the prince, however, wanted to keep pushkin busy with something, well, because complete idleness is also not good, well, he wanted to borrow him for business trips on various assignments within the viceroyalty, for a test pushkin... was sent to sorancha. and what came of it? let's read. the colonel came with a report. colonel, quote. he came to me with a report , extremely indignant, and showed me pushkin’s report. about my business trip. my dear fonton, you will never guess what was there. poetry. report in verse. pushkin wrote: soroncha flew, flew and landed. she sat and sat, ate everything and flew away again. the colonel threw thunder and lightning and began to say: “about discipline and violation of laws, bring me a law that prohibits submitting reports in verse, i besieged him, it seems there is no such thing, prince suvorov sent not only to the governor, but
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to the empress herself a report in verse, thank god, thank you, turtuk, i was taken there, when the surprised colonel came out, i began to think what to do with pushkin, so i decided the next morning to call pushkin to be scolded, or rather to shame him and put him under arrest on... nothing came of it. in the evening i started reading other reports on soroncha. this time it’s serious, detailed and long , there are plans, tables and calculations. i got through about 30 pages and thought, what is the conclusion? she sat, sat, ate everything and flew away again, no other conclusion can be drawn i could not. i read the second note again, ate it all and flew away again. i felt funny, and my anger at pushkin subsided; at least he spared my time. pushkin, i... didn’t call, but i got raevsky to reprimand him to soap his head, from everything i’ve said, it’s clear that pushkin’s place is not in odessa, and that any other city, excluding, of course,
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kishinev, will turn out to be more suitable for him, and asked fonton to advise him on how to act, and, by the way, we can probably add to this that there is also - evidence of how pushkin met with the peasants, after all, in the fields affected by soroncha, having gathered this very gathering of christians, he turned to them with the question: what do you think, what is soroncha? was it necessary to somehow fight further with this circumstance? well, at first there was complete silence, finally one of the peasants timidly proclaimed that soroncha is god’s punishment, but, pushkin said, how can we fight god’s punishment, go home, and he dismissed them, there is such evidence too, but in general relationship.
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generals of the russian army during the patriotic war of 1812, he was undoubtedly a man of honor, and a heightened sense of honor , therefore, just like pushkin, so, of course, it was sometimes difficult for them together, so varantsov undoubtedly breathed a sigh of relief when pushkin was sent further to mikhailovskoye under the supervision of local authorities...
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i still like the version better, which means varantsov’s good attitude towards pushkin, this is the letter that we, in general, it seems to me , presented to the general public for the first time today, yes, this is interesting, yes, for the first time, she is somehow closer to my heart, and in this way pushkin, in fact, according to leprandi’s remark, which means that this is what he wrote, the count did after this letter, the count made contact with petersburg in in the simplest terms and to pushkin.
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you understand what a thing is happening, boris alexandrovich, your generation, you came from russian hockey, from bandy, but now this species is gradually fading away, well, let’s be honest , do you think it’s possible to give it a new life, well, it’s very difficult, it’s unlikely will ever bandy be shown. will be a participant in the olympic games and will be shown on television, well , imagine a huge field, a football field, roughly speaking, 110 by 60 meters, a small ball that is absolutely invisible, although i am not only a good friend, my colleague on
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the sports committee. somehow treated his requests - loyally , yes, yes, yes, yes, of course, we will consider, well, this was about 20 years ago, the matter has not moved forward, today, as far as i understand, there is no interest at all, except sweden and russia are not in the same country, well, maybe there is still a little
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warmth in finland. interest in this sport, people get used to the comfort, everything is transferred to the halls , they even play football indoors in large palaces, there are no serious prospects for this sport on the international stage, i think that in russia this sport . will be alive, but to hold championships between, world championships, the so-called, if it can be called a world championship, where sweden and russia will participate, well, this is ridiculous. this is a podcast lab, hockey football, my name is denis kazansky, our guest today is two-time olympic champion, six-time world champion, legend of our sport, boris aleksandrovich mayorov. boris aleksanovich, are you more interested in modern football or hockey now? well, hockey. attracts, because i
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am still involved in hockey, i am the chairman of the council of veterans of the spartak hockey club, we... are quite active in our arbitration, well, about 40 people, probably spartak veterans, who once played, we have our own box at spartak hockey matches, it’s beautiful, our own box, the table is always set, besides that, i’m also the chairman of the coaching council of the russian hockey federation, naturally, i should... be aware of hockey affairs, but i love football very much, i love it very much , and sometimes, if there are two events at the same time, football and hockey, switching
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to football and not hockey, but here denis, it’s hard to argue, after all, despite the fact that ours, our domestic... hockey has absolutely remarkable successes in the international arena multiple olympic and world champions there and so on, football still remains the number one sport, let 's talk about these intersections, because the continental hockey league is holding an all-star game, this year they decided to make football players alexander mostovoy, andrei arshavin, assistant head coaches, you know very well,
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in open air international competitions and you played against the swedes, when there was an audience of 50,000 people watching you, what kind of matches were they? back in the early sixties, world championships were held in open areas, here is my
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first world championship in the sixty-first year, in two cities, lazana and geneva - this is switzerland, in lausanne there was an outdoor skating rink, in geneva a closed one, and we very ... and we had to play in lasagna and in geneva, and i will say that the transition from fresh air to indoors was very difficult, and if my memory serves me correctly, after this world championship the international federation decided that the world championships must necessarily be closed. skating rinks, in '63, here i am now i remember, we came to the world championship in sweden, in stockholm, and i played there at the johannes hove, i played there in
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the open air, so we arrive at the world cup, the stadium is blocked off, this was the first world cup that was entirely held in indoors. i see, how did you insulate yourself then? this is now thermal underwear , everything is clear, very comfortable, then if it’s cold for about 20 minutes, i was in severe frost for the only time in my life, it was sixty-three, probably sixty- four, perm, yeah, -32, and a championship match, championship of the soviet union, yes, regular championship, four periods of 15 minutes each, well then the shifts were long, they played for one and a half to two minutes, the pace was not the same as now one five plays, and two sit in the locker room, then they say change, they run to...

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