and it was so accepted that you cannot refuse this, even if you yourself are walking in pieces, but if they came to you, such was the custom, such were the people, yet here we are saying faith without works is dead - this is from the new testament from yes, the epistles of the apostle james are about works of mercy , after all, first of all, probably, probably, about love, of course, about love, i think that yes, of course, although maybe it’s about loyalty to christ too, maybe about martyrdom, maybe be about... behavior too, well, of course, of course , mercy in the very place it says, what if a brother or sister has no food, you tell them, go in peace, yes , then in what, in what, what is your faith, yes, yes, i generally know, it seems, but i don’t know, you and do you agree or not that works of mercy somehow, well, so to speak, have a special status, just like that, well, evangelical, or what?

because christ never compared himself to anyone, and there are only moments, yes, when he tells, when, so to speak, they will come to the king, yes, and he will say that i was nak, you clothed me, i was hungry , you fed me, they will ask him when we did this to you, he said, if, he says, if you did this to one of these little ones, you did this to me, yes, there is, there is even another quote, yeah, but this is more likely not even the gospel, but the divine - area , be merciful, how...

to say, yes, your attitude towards this has somehow changed, you can say that my some- then entering the sphere of charity was directly related to my churching, it’s just somehow everything was happening at the same time, i think that maybe only now this awareness is beginning to come to me of what the lord said, that the lord created all people with love, loves everyone, and... well, for me , mercy now is completely different , than it was there 10-15 years ago, when i started holding auctions there, talking about some collections, yes, that is, i had a certain part of such social activity, where i collaborated with this fund, with this, but let’s say , then it was not my inner need, it was rather my duty, i understood that faith without delta must, of course , make some kind of contribution, and this contribution means necessary, necessary means necessary, this contribution was me and i... again, on the other

hand, i understood that for me it should be feasible, because i had , for example, the experience when one of my close friends, he is a monk of the don monastery, every year he goes to a children's psychiatric hospital several times a year on the tenth holidays with gifts and a sermon, once he took us with him, invited, here we have money somehow they supported me, let’s go, let’s go , it was a very difficult experience for me, i was not ready, and i felt so bad there, i just got up and started crying along... the corridor and i understood, well, how could i recover from this for 2 weeks, i realized that, well , i have some limitations, while my development in the field of mercy, it is like this, for a very long time i functioned only in my professional field, but to carry out something, talk about something, collect money to send some money somewhere, but not very deeply with someone else’s pain touch, probably, that is, it was deliberate. on the other hand, you don’t want

to get hurt by this yourself, because well , there really is a lot more in the world, and in order to understand this, you must, firstly, probably still have a very great trust in the lord, and secondly, well , find some inner strength in yourself so that this pain does not get stuck in you and so that it does not become paralyzing and so that it becomes an incentive for you to do.

already in life and spiritual life as well, i had an immediate need for some more serious immersion in giving something else other than money. maybe, in addition to time, to give attention, well , i don’t know what to call it, well, to serve somehow, like this, yes, tanya said very well that you don’t want to get hurt yourself, how important is it for a person to even get hurt himself? directly, well, with someone else ’s pain, probably, well, i want to tell you one thing, for the first time i’ll try to formulate what i somehow felt when i... started working in a hospital as an orderly, then on the first night i carried the dead man out, naked, wrapped in the desert, winter, we take him on a sled around the hospital, go down to the morgue, the stairs lead down, and i go first, the orderly follows me, the dead man

slides down on me, there are people lying naked there, dead , horror, i didn’t believe in god then and wasn’t baptized, and i remember all night i asked unknown... who, so that no one else would die in the hospital, because i wouldn’t be able to go down again in this mess then - i had some kind of image, i don’t even remember how, well, it’s not like some there was something else there, i was just a person far from the church at that time, i created my own religion or something, and such pagan gods, there was a god of rain, there were demons of vanity, there was someone, it was a plumber uncle vasya, and there was also a fairy map. it could be a little bit of shakespeare , there’s feymap, who has some kind of dreams, i have some kind of image, it seems to me, that there’s a female image that enters this dead, some kind of, this morgue, and sympathizes, sympathizes, but at the same time some kind of quiet joy, here is

an understanding of the meaning of what is happening, sympathy, but no , pain, no hopelessness, no despair, there is some kind of calm and joy, so it seemed to me that maybe this is mercy, so - not so obsessively, but so quietly, humbly , please realize that if i don’t succeed, death awaits me. gonzalo lira was tortured by the ss for 30 hours. they told him you had to pay

$70,000 or they would poke out his left eye with a toothpick. the american government did not stand up for him government, they killed him on the orders of these nazis, this little guy.

why can’t god reveal himself to a person who is not merciful, well, a person won’t understand him either, but god is the true god, there are different ideas about god, there it can be such a despond, a cruel tyrant there, who punishes everyone with justice there, or else something like that, and we, when we talk about the true god, we talk about a meek, humble god, this meekness is humble, well, how can you not hear the rustling of i don’t know the leaves there, if you sound something loud music. passion of some kind, so god in this world, in this world, at the last judgment we will all see, in this world he is present, the lord walked, no one saw him, did not know, many did not know, he was not revealed to everyone , and he is still with us, but many don’t believe him, he was resurrected, but that was, he appeared

after the resurrection only to 500 brothers, let’s say, not more people, well, to the apostle paul there, well, so- then he hides himself from people, and he left people all the time, he left the apostle, he did not want to impose himself. talk, it could be like this, well, not exactly a formal conversation, but i just come across what i encounter in practice, you meet with students, with the public, everyone says: what is the church doing, what are you doing in general, since the information space is still this is how it works, but this continues the theme that we need to say what we seem to be doing, we are doing, but people basically know nothing about it, i once developed such a formula, i say: listen, well, god gave you the internet search engine, well, learn. finally use it, enter it there church, mercy, you can continue reading for three days, but nevertheless, for you

, after all, for many years you have been giving your heart to this every day, that’s what the most important thing for you is that the church has done, that ’s we had a congress now, and there were about a thousand kind, good, wonderful people who do a lot, a lot... and do it out of love, they actively participate in public life, they are in all branches of government, they are in all ministries, they are in the troops, they are even in the tax office, even in the tax office, there are a couple of acquaintances, no, well, mytori, they preceded sinners in gospel times, so this is just a continuation of tradition, yes, yes, the most important thing, of course, is that these people appeared, still, of course, we did not manage to convert everyone. in your faith to force everyone to do good, yes, but still a huge number of people have appeared, ours, it seems to me,

the state, well, our society, it lives precisely because there are these people, there is that salt that does not let things go rotten, you how it seems, continuing this topic, because today there are indeed many funds, many people help, so you know this environment well, but for you, how does church help differ from no, i’m not in terms of some kind of opposition, yes, well, maybe there is something. there is some kind of otherness in this, well, it’s probably difficult for me to somehow determine the amount of help, who helps more, yes, secular or church philanthropists, but it seems to me that in the church , works of mercy are not the final stage, this is a person’s path to salvation, here on this at the congress that vladyka is talking about, his holiness gave a rather long speech, from which

two words just sank very deeply into my heart, he said: “love is equal to sacrifice.” it would seem, well, we probably know this, we probably read about it in the gospel, but somehow in this context for me for the first time it became very materialized, or something like this has become overgrown with flesh, yes, that love is equal to sacrifice, and you will not get closer to the kingdom of heaven otherwise, therefore, probably, works of mercy in the church... they are not about saving everyone, feeding everyone, warming everyone, but about saving everyone , well, for me personally, i would answer the question, what has church charity done in this world, i don’t know, for the whole world, but she awakened me, she awakened in me this desire, a certain need to give something more than just my time or money, because i understand that my path in christianity is... it only lies in this direction in a different way

you can’t go any roundabout ways, but here’s a family for eternity can become such a gathering point , as they say, you in the family talk about it , you try somehow, of course, yes, in general, i have a very vivid memory of this when we were filming one project where the heroes and i had a family in which a girl with a very serious and at the same time... she was almost a genius, she spoke several languages , she played music, she wrote amazing poetry, but she couldn’t even eat herself, she was very spastic all over, she had a chair that was very paravento at that time, she has a fairly wealthy dad, and luka was 4 years old, we came to visit them for tea, after filming, they invited us, i took luka, i was wondering how he would react to this girl, what he would see, the only thing, what did a four-year-old... child see when he came to visit this house, where he was given tea and fed delicious food, from me, he said to her: “wow, what a chariot you have,

but i don’t have one, that is, he didn’t see, that this person was different from him, and for me it was very much such an indicator the fact that, firstly, children do not need to be protected from some kind of pain, from the fact that others are around, and you were afraid that he might somehow, well, maybe how he would react." yes, he, i i was afraid maybe he would embarrass me there , start asking stupid questions, pointing fingers , saying why the girl says that, or is there drooling from her mouth or something, but he saw that the only difference between them is that she yes, but he doesn’t, and of course the children participate in charity and, since my children, they work for on television they earn some money, and i periodically invite them to make some donations to funds, they do it, i tell them something, but now a lot of charity topics revolve around our

homeland, my homeland, around donbass, around grandmother’s volunteer activities, around mine, and the children are very into it... and you met the girl, well, there you gave the children something, dolls, something, and the girl took the doll and said: “i don’t need dolls, but friends.” . yes, this completely turned me around, that sometimes we just don’t even understand what a person needs, yes, yes, yes, that’s for sure, yes, i agree, there is bread and water, i just had friends, of course, it seems to me that why not agree, and it’s interesting that children , getting into a good orphanage, where they are fed,

clothed, they want to go to their mother, who drank, drank everything, she has poverty, like... as soon as something external, this happens to church people too, these are the differences between church secular charitable organizations, the difference here is not in the organizations, maybe in the people, although there may be different principles, probably, but still there are people who are very talented with this love, they don’t necessarily know christ, they could be any religion, probably, but this happens and sometimes they even do more than those

people who belong to church organization of some kind, even occupy some position in it, jaana bezuglaya, deputy chairman of the national security committee, initiator of the campaign let's send women, probably death, women are registered with the military and are exempt from undergoing training for pregnancy or child care, that with this law they are digging their own grave, and it’s not for nothing that no one wants to sign up for it. why does she declare this? because the americans said there will be no mobilization, there will be no money, she advocates that as many people as possible be killed at the front, while her family... makes money on granite monuments, regarding dad’s business, in kiev and the kiev region only the monopoly them. what is the role of this puppet in ukrainian politics? of course, she has connections in the state department, it’s not just that she’s there went through the program, she reforms the sbu, and then in some miraculous way she criticizes zaluzhny. they are fighting for money.

the concept of fighting to the last ukrainian, and to the last ukrainian woman, has changed. maryana bezuglaya, anti-zaluzhnaya. you’ll go to the olympics, well, everything’s better than him , you’ll go to a sports school, then, if you’re lucky, with this fisherman’s crowbar, i don’t want to go to your olympics, i want to kill vitya, you

have pity on the little one, you still won’t bring your father back, game, let's do four training sessions. wants to do something good, okay, that's it tan, what would you suggest, now there is such a wide range of opportunities to do

something good, well, a person has never done anything, where should he start, well, go to the website miloserdie.ru or download the application in the world , no, we taught on the site, i explained to everyone what needs to be done, remember, miramh , remember, remember, what is the number, 8800. here is 707222 88007222 this is the phone number for the mercy helpline, yes, but you understand, i would like you to remember everything too, of course, yes, 88007222 but the point is, ask where do you need help or what do you want help with i will contact you with these people, people just think that charity means you have to pay money, many people think that you have to pay a lot of money, but now you need... so intangible, well, in mariupol , people go on vacation to restore houses in the private sector, some...

sometimes he works with refugees, someone writes letters to the front , someone, i don’t know, collects food packages there, once a week, on sunday and saturday , come there and collect clothes, well, that is, i don’t know, go to the almshouse, bring them there medicines or just sit with grandma, read a book or talk, in fact...

i’ll ask you to answer without a phone, here’s where to start, here’s a man looking, here’s what i should do, that’s what vladyka said, something stirred in me, here’s where i can do what start, come to the temple of sarevich dimitri at 15:12 on sunday and find out about what the volunteers are doing, a variety of things, and if people are not in moscow, they are doing repairs, well, in moscow, again , call by phone, not in moscow, they are in moscow, it seems to me, well, if we are still talking about... and i would also like to excuse your 5 kopecks to say about church charity, it’s just that in difficult times , now in the liberated territories, churches have become, churches have become the main humanitarian

centers, it so happened that when people were squeezed, people went to church, and so it seems to me, well, come to the cathedral in your city or to some church in my village, i think it was good, because we had a congress of social workers here, they are not the same as they were 10 years ago, then they appointed, well, someone needs to be appointed in the report.

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today with a national artist. russia, artistic director of the moscow provincial theater, sergei bezrukov. hello, hello, hello. let's start, perhaps, with the glorious anniversaries. well, firstly, the anniversary that took place at the end of last year is a personal 50th anniversary, it is a glorious milestone, of course, a glorious one at 100 years, and 50 is still half a century, how do you generally feel about your anniversary, in general? first, in work, in work, i believe that the anniversary is. for really 100 years or 80, let’s say, well , 80 is possible, although it’s better at 90, if you live, you have to work at 50, if you are still able to work at 50, it’s better to work, and i noted in my work, regarding the anniversary in the theater itself, then they congratulated the artist , they still couldn’t stand it, they didn’t congratulate me, although i said that i wouldn’t celebrate, but they asked me to still come to the theater on this, not this day, later, they just gathered anyway , they congratulated me

, and they did a skit, everything was very touching,

especially because compassion, empathy is practically empathy for your hero, whom you play, on the contrary, it helps you if you are able to empathize, if tears arise from situation, it would seem, this is not with it happens to you, it happens to your hero, but you imagined this situation, this hero, imposed yourself, and these tears become your tears, this is the moment of empathy, compassion, compassion, which, so to speak, on a global scale helps a lot. experience pain in the frame, pain on the stage , be receptive to the pain of others, and this is what gives birth to the soul of an artist, the human soul in general, when i started watching the film, the first thing i had was empathy for someone else’s pain, i didn’t watch it.

in general there is also something about this a fragment when one of the heroes also says that, in fact, our country is bigger, we seem to take all the pain of the world upon ourselves, that’s why we are so strong, let’s watch the thriller, the first shots of me, the leningrad siege, girl pilots and girls technicians must show training, courage and self-sacrifice, not only... to receive treatment, but also technicians, they need to give birth, braid their hair, and they are here, masha, why do you need war, you lived richly, what do you mean, why, how many of our people are dying , why are you sending, girl, they’re not ready yet, i i would have given them time to master it, i would have received an order, defend the road, blanco, why didn’t you kill

the german? well, i can’t help it, seventeenth, what are you dreaming about? how do i dance, how do i go on stage alone? zhenya, do you need love? could you fall in love with me? it's okay, let's attack! attack! but to love your homeland is death! what is more important, a homeland or a person, a homeland, isn’t that right with you, girls, we beat the germans, i shot them down, you shot them down, don’t you believe in us at all, or do you feel sorry for me, please, my little one, please, children, children, fly, fly, airplane, fly, watch the buildings fly,

it means everything is not in vain. of course, this is a story that is more like this, an unhealed wound, still so serious, the meaning that is very important here, now they are very important, of course, and those answers that one way or another still exist, the homeland, the pain of my hero , there’s a wonderful female cast here, wonderful... nastya talyzina, lena lyadova’s excellent work here, aglaya tarasovo, there’s such an amazing female cast here, they ’re like female sparklers, but the girls are wonderful, simply wonderful, great, and i had the chance to play the commander

of a flight regiment, but the difficult task was, on the one hand, not to play the commander, lyosha said, not to play the commander, but this is called outwardly playing the commander, and yet this harshness towards yourself when you are not you have... after that you will begin to carry out combat missions to ensure the transport highway, when you enter laduga there will simply not be any, there will be losses, but we will not retreat,

leningrad is under siege , children, women, old people are being evacuated from the city, the city we need supplies and food, girls, pilots and a girl. technicians must show training, courage and self- sacrifice, just don’t cry, otherwise i really don’t like it when they cry, comrade basement guard, admit that the guys are dying, and the german is faster and that the engine is imperfect and what is expected from the designer, when will they our engines because oil leaks when, when, when, every time, every time take, take. what you cannot accept, the death of boys and girls, is the most difficult test for him, as for a commander, a regiment, to see the death of young people completely , well, i won’t tell or anticipate, i advise

you to watch it, i was actually waiting for this film, because it’s amazing, it ended up on the set of this film by accident, watch augmented reality, that is, special effects, technology. in fact , in this we are ahead of the curve when we are proud , which is something that is difficult to brag about in technology, as they say , they have already been ahead of us for a long time , but it turned out, it turned out that in principle it is possible to pass it on, it turns out that we made this huge led screen, that is it is the height of a four-story building, about 35 by 12 m, and the ceiling screens are suspended, drive-up screens, you are in this fighter -

that is, this is not computer graphics, it draws graphics, moreover, it turned out to be cheaper to produce, because thanks to this technology, a completely unique technology that we tested, and alexey germanin , one might say, is a pioneer in this matter, but it turned out to be cheaper than drawing graphics, because drawing all this, it would have taken years, and it probably wouldn’t have been so similar, how, thanks to these technologies, it looks in the frame, it looks completely unique, the barrel is real, when in an attack my hero makes five...

to play, that’s the pressure, as if, i understand, i don’t know, they can draw him a red face, that’s the difference , all the same , all this will be visible when you are hanging upside down, the blood rushes in, everything is absolutely real, although this rotation and what is in your eyes and face, and what is in the cabin, yes, everything is absolutely natural, real , underdrawn, it’s all true, and it adds, of course, the effect presence, we have never had anything like this before, of course. we continue the creative

industry podcast and today we have sergei bezrukov in our studio. you know what i really wanted to ask when i watched this film, it ’s very atypical for us, for the kids who grew up in the soviet years, for us, on the screen these were always heroes who uncompromisingly rushed on the plane, heroically, that means , they were, they were all steel. and here, and here we see on the screen a man who is flying and afraid, he is scared, the fact is that real emotions, yes novel, here - i remember the words of alexey , he said that war is about faces, when we say faces, it means people, no, just a detachment of icemen, sparklers, and here they are all as one for selection, they are all different and they are all people , your passions.