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tv   PODKAST  1TV  January 31, 2024 1:00am-1:46am MSK

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war is faces, when we say faces, it means they are people, no, just a squad of icemen , come from an iceman, they are all as one, they are all different and they are all people, with their passions, their experiences, with their fears, this very important, war is people, people, faces, and this is exactly what alexey emphasizes, people are faces, so here we see just real people with their experiences, the commander has... the inner one is just there, there is a terrible world, then, what he cannot agree with, he has to, because the order does not take a step back, still a very young girl, for the first time , what is it like to shoot at an enemy, a german, when you can’t, when my hero takes responsibility, responsibility, you must take this step, i take responsibility for you, this scene is of course scary, but the hero understands that i take this sin myself.
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i take myself so that you can do it, you have to become a soldier, you have to become a warrior, you have to become a pilot, because if not you, then you, this is war, how is it psychologically to take yourself, yes you are the same for girls, this none of her business, but he has great love, love, yes, the feeling can be that very life, because for the hero there is an order, there is a duty, his love, let’s say with... with the heroine of the carp lyadova, these are two aces, two commanders, of a women’s squadron, and he regiment commander, these are two people who have known each other for a long time, who love each other, but i remembered how you were an asshole in your youth when you were landing, remember, in a few years, there won’t be a corpse to rot again, let’s take everything back, without you honestly,
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maybe we can take the child from home, now they are there’s a lot left, if things didn’t work out for us, uh, come on, tell your guys, please, so that they don’t bully them like girls, okay, the second army is surrounded, right? our offensive was blown away, this feeling when they don’t have that very life, a peaceful life, a real life, that’s a terrible phrase, when we got into a fight there, about the fact that you’re letting the girls out, they haven’t learned to fly yet, and i there i was just leaving the operating room, a young guy, a pilot, had just died, i said, why should i marry your girls? more? than these boys, here
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in the war there are neither boys nor girls, you once dreamed that we would have boys, girls, now we have them, we have a terrible phrase: now we have a family, we have girls, we have boys, these are two loving people who are at war and when he says: i dreamed about you, this is some kind of tenderness, a rather harsh tenderness, because there is no sentimentality here, no time for sentimentality. there are problems, there are problems, the engine is not the same, the engine is not ready yet, the planes are not yet the same, the enemy is us ahead, because of this there is death, nevertheless, this tenderness, which we do not allow ourselves so much, this tenderness, then further, well, i won’t say, because even the situation there, the film has collected all the difficulties that can meet from some natural surprises to technical ones when filming. of course, they were very difficult
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, they were very difficult, on the bay, when the wind was terrible, when the planes were blown away, when the whole group practically held them with their hands, because the cables broke, and it was necessary to hold the planes, this, of course , was truly a serious test for the film, in general for everyone who worked on it, so i would like to say thank you to everyone for the courage that they showed, but this is not a film, this is a real shooting.
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i don’t know, the tank was brought up, refueling, this is a separate life, moreover, i want to say, the directors of photography, among them two women, are in this in this movie. she, i have seen her in other roles, she has already played in many places, i think that for her this is such a breakthrough, of course, of course, very talented, emotional, really living everything and accepting the story of her heroine as her personal drama, that is, she
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was really required to have the same courage, just like her heroine, and nastya was required to have the courage to survive all these inhuman conditions that sometimes occurred during the filming , i met... one interview when you were not yet forty, and there you say, among other things, that you would really like to star in a real war movie, that’s how they fought for their homeland, there wasn’t that much military paintings, yes, but there were them, in general, on the 41st, yes, there is lieutenant burov, yes, in fact, podolsk cadets, captain starchak, well, all this is a small role, ivan burov, the central role, but still this, so, if you imagine, then this of course... very few, because for some reason everyone says that you have many military roles, i say, no, if you don’t take general capel, but still there is a civil war, so there weren’t that many military men, but i’m waiting, i hope, next year there will be the next work, the moment of truth, interesting work, this
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the film that you were waiting for military, i think yes, of course, definitely air, because working with alexei german was of course a dream, i did not expect it. i didn’t know, they just invited me to audition, but then they didn’t call, i thought, probably not, and so i thought with despair, well, there was an opportunity, unfortunately , probably not, then they called and approved it, i was happy, endlessly, because that it’s a completely unique acting experience to work with such a director, everyone, every work with a new director is an experience, and despite the fact that you may have already acted a lot, nevertheless, each...
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amazing film adaptation, the film ak 44 with excellent performance, evgeny mironov, zhenya was played amazingly by captain lyegkin, this is one of such iconic roles in his biography and of course , i also played, it’s said that i was lucky enough to also play captain alyokhin, of course, of course, there are possible comparisons ahead, but i would still advise not to compare, these are different projects. because the moment of truth is, of course, modern cinema, the modern scale of filming, and what’s most for me, the main thing was, perhaps , what i didn’t see in that film, despite the fact that i also love it very much, like many of us fans of this book, and that film, the story
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of the personal drama of the hero captain alekhine, because there, his family drama is very serious , and just at the moments of truth of this version, cinema, there is a great emphasis on human stories, and tamantsev, captain alekhine and blinov, they have their own destiny in the frame, there is a past that they still live, there is the present and what is possible, probably some an assumption of their future, but this is their, so to speak, background for each of them, there is a very serious emphasis on this, in addition to the complex staged scenes.
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how they are with each other, who they are, and i’m glad that nikita kologrev, who has now certainly become a star, and he will be there too, and he played tomantsev, and this role, of course, is one of such interesting ones in his creative biography. because he is unusual there, this is serious work, and his image of tomantsev, of course, is impressive, just based on the very difficult filming that took place and the character of this hero and what... he is going through, his story with his mother, because , let’s say, in the work of that august 4, there
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is nothing of that, there is a military detective, very powerful, superbly played, and here is this accent , among other things, and action, which is at a high, of course, technological level, people, people, people, and my hero, captain lyokhin, who, as it turned out, is not doing well, and solving the problem. that he has to give birth to internally, this inner world of the hero is very, very important, i i’m glad that this is exactly what the emphasis is on, as in the film the air, people, war are people, specific people, each individual person, heroes, yes, heroes, but behind each hero is his family, parents, children, his comrades in the end, behind each of them, my hero in the film has a very serious air. problem, because at one time he, as the father of the heroine, this wife belova, could not tell
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the truth, he remained silent, but the imperfection of the plane, the imperfection, the father of this girl zhenya belova, he was able to say write, for this he was repressively shot , but my hero could not do this, despite the fact that two are completely ...
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i’m looking, because we see magnificent dynasties, the wonderful yankovsky dynasty, when we look at the wonderful amazing work of vanya yankovsky, and i i also had an acquaintance, he acted with his grandfather, with oleg ivanovich , he is very familiar with the dynasty, it turns out that he also acted with liza yankovskaya, and to be honest, i am pleased with this, i am glad that these generations and actors are magnificent and even the younger generation inherited this talent. well, somewhere you said in an interview that this is a terrible profession, it’s terrible, of course , here you know, you wouldn’t wish it on your own child, this is
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a serious test, of course, you need to look at the presence of talent, if there is talent, then i will help, what is the diagnosis you, well , it’s still in between, now he’s interested, and i see, i see empathy, let’s say, styopa has a sense of empathy, just like masha, an amazing dreamer, i think that...
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“if i hadn’t seen in you that you can empathize, i realized that i needed to work further, then he began to work for me i entered the mkhat studio school, and then
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my father did all the independent work at the studio school with me as a director, so all my work was professional directing. done, and i carried out the will of my father’s director , and then oleg pavlovich tabakov got involved , who believed in me, he took me to the theater from the third year, i was already famous in the snuffbox and further, further, further, further, but my father believed in me from the very beginning, so i also look to understand that when i believe in my children, when i see this, then i will join in, to the centenary of the masfilm film studios, the engine has begun... how many acting destinies, dreams, sufferings, hundreds of people, thousands, here comes torkovsky, shukshin, bandarchuk, masfilm - this is generally a place where there is a lot of humor, it has always been , it remained the same, this is my version of the script, how
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long have i been looking for you, i already wrote this, having a card on masfilm was equivalent to... we continue the conversation with sergei bezrukov, with you the host of the creative industry podcast, elena kiper and roman harmanov, what he came up with theater for a ten-year-old, i think that firstly, it has its own spectator, because theater without a spectator is impossible, we can have one of the most accessible theaters for spectators in
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moscow, because it is literally 15 minutes from taganka to kuzmin.
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a performance, let's say, energetic people, when the audience sings along with the artists, hits of the seventies, sasha ruchekov staged, we, by the way, invite dogs, very interesting work, driving with excellent acting, because it is very important for me that after all, the director died in artist, as konstantin sergeevich stanislavsky bequeathed, the director must die in the artist, not the director, here i am the director, the artist, in fact, the poor guy there doesn’t know how to justify all this, and we come to the director. to your theater from your mentors , from your teachers, i think that this is exactly
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what family relationships are, if oleg pavlovich was always a father figure for us in tabakerka, dad and... and in the provincial government they also call me the provincial dad, so artists are the same children, the same children who need to be taken care of to care, i need to think, i literally passed by there, i was on the phone in worries, i literally didn’t pay attention, that’s all, this is a sleepless night, this is the feeling that they didn’t look at me, they looked at me, it means something has changed, the attitude has changed , it means there will be no more roles, it means everything is not needed, they didn’t give me a certificate, let’s say, my god, i didn’t get a certificate, but for an actor , pay attention, if suddenly something is wrong, it’s a blow, it’s a very serious blow, emotional blow. so this is attention, care it’s always very important to come up at the right moments to say kind words, a year and a half ago, i think, i came to avgig, i got there completely by accident
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, sergei bezrukov was running around the first floor, worried that not all applicants who were worthy, they somehow fit in into this quota, which is always there, and it was clear that it was just, well, just pain and well, well, something needs to be done about it, in a gig. but we work in the same team, these are all my artists, that’s right, my guys, my guys, i, of course, i work with the guys exactly in the pomkhatovian way, but i say
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, we have an advantage, we are already preparing to be film artists, to play in the theater in the cinema, this is what i took, selected all over the country , i looked at 400 applicants, moreover, when i missed moscow, i i also traveled around cities and villages. with the tour, at the same time i’m also saying, so i arrived in the evening for a performance, can i still organize it in advance, let’s say i sent out an announcement that i would like to see more applicants, and they organized it for me, let’s say in yekoterenburg they organized me at a film studio, they organized me screening there in arkhangelsk, we were with the echo festival of a large children's festival, we also organized a screening and i specifically looked at the children on purpose. from all over the country, and so, uniting all the artists, after all, under the guidance of makhatovskaya, i have already worked with my artists as a teacher,
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so the artist of the moscow provincial theater, this can already be said, is our common school, residence, sincere and for real, that’s why i was ready, on the one hand, a year ago, when vich called, he said: not should i get a course in vgik, i... thought for a long time, i’m fast, fast, on my feet, okay, i got it, but there is still such an opportunity, and i’m glad that thanks to the sponsors and support, because i have everything guys study for free, i met somewhere with you that the most important thing now is, yes, actually at all times, this is the only thing that remains in us in general, this is sincerity, now i think that this is what thank god we haven’t adopted it from the nineties.
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you see, stanislav, you once said that a hockey museum is necessary, but
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criticized him for the way he looks and what has come of him now, why? hmm, an unexpected start, but you know, for some reason we think about museums in two formats, but usually, or these are the kind of old gray-haired grandmothers who collect. the same old dusty pieces of paper that no one needs, or this is some kind of expensive multimedia space, where they come mainly, i don’t know, children, but there’s a dad with children, but in fact it could be both of these things true, but a museum is museum work, yes, this is actually the work of restoring history, reliable history, and this is the main function of the museum, exposing myths, and collecting collections, collecting materials. publication of these materials , it probably sounds very boring, yes, but in my opinion, well, look, we have already had many hockey anniversaries lately, yes, and events, yes, there, there and the super series, which
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actually not supersea. instead of serious and interesting historical works, historical studies, it is customary for us to publish expensive gift albums, so that there are many, many color photographs, so that there are 100 copies to give to the right, good, necessary people and that’s all, but so that it’s bad when and no, nothing, no, if it replaces everything else, yes, if it replaces interesting stories, new stories about the history of soviet hockey, which is really like... strange, we have studied very little, well, let's talk about it, this is a podcast on the first channel hockey football, my name is denis kazansky, today's guest is stanislav gridasov , journalist and sports historian, and stanislav, 1935, yes, the newspaper krasny sport calls for playing canadian hockey, yes, but somehow it didn’t work out until after the war, why? yes, it was such a large newspaper company, red sports is an organ, so, well, i will
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speak in a modern way, but there is a ministry of sports. and that is, this is a very influential press, which is read both en masse throughout the country and by the entire leadership of the country, this call arises: let's play canadian hockey, and this call is made there by a fairly large figure of those years, this konstantin kvashnin, captain of the moscow bandy team, coach of the moscow football dynamo at the same time, and he explains, since we are now at a new stage in the development of soviet sports and physical education.
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such an almost new story, literally the story of this year, before that, in my opinion, no one published this, suddenly in 1935 it turned out that in the ussr, despite the fact that there is no puck hockey, and never has been, there are already many good hockey players, puck players, like this, where, yes, where from, these were all former residents of harbin, that is, they were either former workers of the kvzh railway, yes, which we had already ceded at that moment, or the children of these employees who moved to the soviet union. who already knew the rules , who had sticks, who already had experience playing in various competitions, say: we are ready, we are ready to support this initiative, look, we already have it all over the country, but there are two dozen hockey players there, that is, this influence it turns out that china is like that, well, now it can be tied directly to kunlu so very boldly, but what kind of horbin is this, after all, although there were guys who played in beijing , including, of course, in university teams, and there were, of course, americans, and there were some canadians, there were white migrants
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. since it is clear that many of them were simply shot as japanese spies during the great terror in 1937-38. interestingly, latvia as an independent country, even before the soviet union began playing puck hockey, as far as i know, i understand correctly that without this influence in the soviet union pucks same. would have appeared, well, it would have appeared, of course, it would have appeared anyway, much later than it happened, no, no, it would have appeared in any case before the war, before the forty -first year, and if we are talking about winter, about gaming sports, the whole country plays bandy, russian hockey, no one calls it bandy yet, men, women, children play, a huge number of teams, this is a very popular sport, there is no ice hockey, that is, these rare publications in the press are actually rare there, well, students at the institute of physical education
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there were several... owls, they simply explained to them that there is such a game, they play it there, there are the olympics, canada, something like that, but there is no ice hockey, in fact, why after the war, suddenly, where did it come from, canadian hockey, in general the word sport even appeared, began to be used in the name of our main sports department only in the year thirty-six, yes, we have physical education, yeah, we have physical education, we must develop mass participation, but in very rude words, no, but moreover, we already have olympic champions in figure skating, well this is this is the olympic royal time. we did not participate in the olympics, we did not participate in the world champions in any sport, we competed only with work teams, and we competed so successfully that already in the second half of the thirties we were not interested in them, we beat them, if we talk about football, the scores there were 10:0, well, more.
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cubans right now and here it is 10:00 11:1, there were new tasks to reach the international level, but at that time they were not politically approved, because it was our sport, yes soviet. proletarian gto, mass physical education, and the permission of this political decision , there was no permission to enter the international arena then, there were timid attempts, but after the war, what, we are winning the war, yes, we made a contribution, a decisive contribution, then no one denied it, in victory over fascism, we entered the international arena, these new tasks, our new international status, our allied relations between the usa and england during the war, they... gave birth to the idea that now we are not playing around, we are not confining ourselves exclusively to working confrontation, and we must slowly move towards joining the olympic family of nations, then naturally
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analytical and managerial work was carried out, in fact, what sports are included in the winter olympics, summer olympics, what is prestigious, a very important parameter of the medal capacity, yeah, skates , for example, right? hockey is understandable, only one gold medal, but a prestigious one, because many countries play hockey, canada plays, the usa plays , our closest neighbors, so to speak, play, in many ways czechoslovakia's partners are playing scandinavia and so on, but a political decision was made, let's try, let's try, introduce, see what it is, it's not final yet, it will work, it won't work, because the first championship, it lasted 34 days, uh-huh, just... just who is vladimir egorov? and why is his name, yes , actually not so, known to wide circles, that is, those who go deep into hockey know his first and last name very well, but still it’s somehow forgotten, yes, forgotten, well,
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naturally, the man was such a worker , modest, did not write books, did not give interviews , although he died very late and there, throughout the eighties, you could still communicate with him, listen, you know, a little to the side, where did he come from? well, we kind of know that there is only one father, well, in general, in principle, biologically, but he is a father , maybe, well, one, and there are british scientists and wikipedia there, well , somehow the general public knows everything, that the father of soviet hockey is anatoly vladimirovich tarasov, yes, of course, you know, i have some number of years ago they gave a fresh american book for such an internal review, which describes how hockey was born in the ussr, and there is such a wonderful scene there, and the tyrant joseph stalin, this is an american book, yes, he summons anatoly tarasov, well, apparently to the kremlin, yes and says: “anatoly, we need to create soviet hockey.” well, anatoly says, yes, he leaves, taking russian hockey as a base, that is, bendy,
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chess in the tradition of russian and soviet ballet, creates original soviet hockey, wait, again, that means a cocktail, ballet, chess, and russian hockey. so it’s just three, well, well, russian hockey , obviously, so usually this story is actually seen, but in fact, they took chess because we all seemed to be russians , almost all the football players at the same time in the winter season did not intersect, but they also played russian hockey, but why did they take ballet and chess from the americans in their book, in general, well , because ballet is ahead of the rest of the planet, yes , it’s naturally clear, and chess -
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tarasova, yes, but nevertheless, she says: guys, we need to start a new sport from scratch, you don’t have rules translated into russian, you don’t have anything to play with, that is, the soviet industry doesn’t produce clubs, no pucks, no clubs, no, no, no, no , there is no gate of the required size, there is nothing , yes, but at the same time, yes, there are no, practically no people who even know how to do this with the rarest exceptions, no video tutorials, no books, no nothing, and...
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add up - in hockey there is no puck, yeah, but again, you need money, you know, hockey sticks you need to make it, you need a drawing, but there, well , there is a planned economy, it requires money, there were several such... people, yes , in fact, arkady ivanovich chernyshov, a dynamo, and tarasov, who at that time was a hockey player, a coward, a football player, who is already close to such a veteran age , here is vladimir kuzmich egorov, one of the very few athletes who has a higher physical education education, who knows how to draw up physical training plans, and there, who went through a generally good double school with various coaches, specialists in football, hockey, puck, he led the king's council team. yeah, here they are, these three people
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, in a sense it’s even difficult to separate them, because it was such a dense cauldron, boiling, exchange, finds, ideas, yes, they trained on the same ice, in the end , very often, because there was no other ice in moscow, what influence did vasily stalin have on the development of the game? well, listen, it is believed that sometimes it was not joseph stalin who called tarasov, but vasily stalin, yes, but in fact, vasya stalin in 1946, he was still not even in the ussr, he still continues to serve, he is a military general. and he returned to moscow only when he was transferred from germany, back here, in the summer of forty-seven to the moscow military district, that is , one championship had already passed, while one championship had passed, yes, the first thing he did was fire tarasov, anatoly vladimirovich, who at that was currently the coach of the air force football team. tarasov himself recalled this, that he and stalin vasily had an insurmountable conflict, they argued with him.
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after all, if you just look at the calendar and look at the dates when stalin returned to moscow and how the air force played football with whom , you can reconstruct it, vasily stalin comes, yes, it’s summer, he goes to football, the soviet union football championship, group a, air force outsider, stalin comes, he’s probably went to the dynamo stadium, before his eyes the air force lost two matches in a row, 1:5 from the bilisky dynamo at home, 1.6 from the stalingrad tractor, this was the career of anatoly vladimirovich tarasov in football. the sodyka match ended and the next one
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came out with a completely different coach, kappelkin. joe biden, the apostle of moracobesia, where is he pulling the rest of the world? because of this, guys, the third world war will begin. from the point of view of globalists, all countries should disappear, wanting to destroy the whole world, they could not save their country, texas, protests, uprisings. why did they rebel? america is led by a sect of satanists.
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moment red becomes the color of our team, well, we had and there were several sets of blue and red then, in fact , well , no one focused on the term red red jersey at all, there on in friendly matches, there were generally different combinations of jerseys, but that same famous match with the canadians 7:2, this is bobrov’s blue jersey, it hangs in toronto in the hall, in the hall in the hall of fame, but little by little, and now for the fifty-fifth year, fifty-sixth we've already switched mostly to red, but then uh-huh. after all, it was not the color of the t-shirt very
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often, but it came to us from north america, let’s talk about it, where did this term come from in general, cool red communists red communists bolsheviks red army and the car is a red car and the car, well, at first they were just red just retz yeah yeah initially but the car again is kind of like that. this is marketing, this is the western press, these are completely different times, this is the seventy- first year, centenati retz, an american club, which was nicknamed for its coherence of actions. for the pedantry of the red car, just some canadian journalist, in the seventy -first year, watching the soviet union national hockey team in switzerland, decided to use this image and transferred it, and it was not just called a bik, yes, a big red one machine, that’s how the whole seventies went , but how did they treat this nickname in the soviet union,
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because a little later, as far as we know, viktor tikhonov said that we are living people, we are not a machine at all, well, this is generally the eighties, listen, but they didn’t treat it at all , well, who cared, it’s already the eighties, you already know that. a completely , completely, completely different era, when we suddenly had a national team in football, suddenly we had some kind of official nicknames, a nickname, but there was nothing like this in the soviet union, and there won’t be could. okay, please tell me, the toronto maple leavs could have come to the soviet union in the 50s, how could it have been, well , actually, the fifty-fourth year, that’s when the first 8 years of soviet hockey passed, we first went to the beginning of the world and europe hundred and won, in fact, against the canadians with a score of 7:2, and so on... that's how it was called in the canadian press , well, we now have such a tendency in recent years, we look at it with some contempt and think about it, we beat there the team is not even yet a national team from
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second division of the province of ontario, well, such a suburb of toronto east york, some kind of semi-amateurs who work there at some kind. plays at a car dealer's car show on weekends, some kind of bullshit, but it's kind of frivolous, well listen, first of all, then not only we took it very seriously, but it was them, it was an insult to canadians, and then let's remember, yes look, what is the second division of the province of ontario, the province of ontario has been playing hockey officially since 1890, that is, 64 years at that time, we play eight, the number skating rinks, as now, as then... we have it in 1954 , we haven’t even built luzhniki yet, we have nothing, there are only six teams in the nhl, that’s 150 people, that’s the canadian elite, yes, the rest of the crowd where they play , of course, the first, second division, all the lower leagues, this is actually quite a decent level, especially for us then as amateurs, but the canadians were generally raging
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about this, some komi reds came and it was not just hockey, it there was an insult, yes there it was.
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the transfer we made is the first a super series is when the clubs played, this is a series of matches between clubs, the nhl and our visiting cska, dynamo, korolesovetov , spartak, and they called it a summit,
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that is, a summit meeting, like politicians, yes there.

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