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to his grandfather’s village, but they politely answered him like this, you know, may, moscow, sunshine, may moscow, the stars are shining brightly, like the kremlin, yes, there is no ice there, the game, we don’t have artificial ice at all, not yet so to speak, so stay with yours there, i’ll bring mine, guys , i’ll come with mine, i’ll mount everything, everything, everything at my own expense, though i’ll take it away later, this is serious, you ’re saying now, absolutely, that is, he was ready bring the map, absolutely, seriously, yes, yes, absolutely, the transfer we made, the first a super series is when the clubs played, it is a series of matches between clubs, the nhl and our visitors there, cska, dynamo, korolesovetov, spartak.
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in different ways, but they all won anyway , they and we, they learned from us, we, from them, and, we played there more often, an important factor, everyone forgets that we almost always played there, the district is behind this there is an explanation, but these are all commercial stories, someone had to pay for all these banquets, yeah, in fact, there was money there, there was money there, but again, why do they ask, why in 1972 did you play only in moscow, and where? and you have a sports palace, in fact moscow, leningrad, kiev, but
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do you have hotels in all of them to bring them, i don’t know, to chelyabinsk, yekaterinburg, sverdlovsk, but do you have hotels, and where will you accommodate 3,000 canadian tourists, but do you have planes, that is, flights in the required quantity to translate all this, and if you have so many secret service officers and police officers to sing for this whole gang, do you have enough whiskey for all of them? well, there are a lot of logistical tasks that in the soviet union it was not so easy to decide in the seventies. forget that moscow is in many ways, here is modern moscow, hotel complexes, roads, airports, this is already a product in many ways of preparation for the olympics of 80, in the seventy-second year, forgive me, foreign coaches, when they came to study in the ussr in the seventy-third year, including freda shiro, stanley cup winners, they were put up in some departmental hotel, like a waterman, a river worker, i don’t remember, somewhere in the izmailovo area, you know, i never i didn’t think about it, but how many fans came to the matches in the soviet union in that super series and how many of ours were there?
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well, in the eighties it’s clear, that’s all, it’s already 1972, yeah, something is known about them that they forgot about here, because the olympics, it’s all written down there, about the canadian fans at the matches of the national team of the soviet union, canada practically no one has ever written, well, no, why, well , the best classic book about hockey published in our soviet union in the seventies is candriden, hockey at the highest level, like it was translated, he describes life and customs in great detail. and the canadian fans, what were they doing here? and they walked along red square , marched, shouted to say, chants , bought somewhere some kind of hats with cockades, so to speak, where they managed, so to speak , vaentorg, well, there was no cart yet, but in the modern sense, yes they drank, since the currency bars were still there for them; they lived mostly, well, as a foreign tourist, at a tver hotel, which doesn’t exist, that is, i don’t know yet, 300 obviously wouldn’t fit into a foreign tourist, yes. well somehow
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they were generally stationed - around moscow, they were organizing a showdown, our fans were in canada, but as for me, well , someone could come to montreal or only representatives of the embassy could come to the game , well, some kind of benefits, well listen, even in the eighty-first year , a small delegation came to the canada cup - sort of tourists, yes, in which, oh, god bless the memory, but there was definitely a film director, an actor-director, yes, well, there was some kind of person there 7-10, there was some. there were directors, oh, one of the singers, now i don’t remember who wasn’t kobzon, but there was one strange woman in the whole delegation, who was either a production leader, or a weaver, or someone, and roland bykov constantly writes about her in his diaries i scolded him for the company’s inadequacy, that’s all, strictly speaking, no, but how come we didn’t have tourism as such , the year 1980, a miracle on ice for the us team, a victory for the soviet union team in the olympics, but what? can be called a miracle on ice
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for the soviet union team, was there such a thing in our history? of course, well, look, it’s 1954 - the first soviet team comes to the first championship. some believe that it was tarasov, let’s not resist there , let’s spoil them, and we go out and win 7:2, well, of course, this is an absolute miracle on ice, and it’s 1956, the first olympic games, when the canadians are already sending a much stronger team than in fifty -four, and we win 2:0 and become
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olympic champions from the first run, and forgive 7:3 in 72 in montreal, isn’t that a miracle, an absolute miracle, wonderful enough. understandable in the soviet union, for example , it is difficult to explain some of these things , such as the plympic cycle, that is, a four-year period , yes, this year we are olympic champions in grenoble, the hockey team , the seventy-second year the olympic cycle ends, and usually, what is the olympic cycle, this is a new training plan, this is an update, a new addition, a renewal of the national team, how...
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by this moment they have spent such a huge life in hockey, they have won absolutely everything in amateur hockey, firstly, they, of course they could simply be tired, they could simply want to rest a little, there was a very difficult world championship ahead in prague, which was not easy for us, in
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1972, literally 3 months after the olympics, when the hockey players were already emasculated, you understand, yes, the main goal of the season was achieved, through it takes 3 months to regroup and play in prague. in prague, a contract was signed for a match with canada, and bobrov was deliberately prepared to become a head coach within a year, within 2 years, again in soviet style, within the framework of soviet planning decision-making, bobrova, he already had mayorov,
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boris sanich, uh-huh, puchkov, the coach of leningrad ska, already ready to be included in his headquarters, when they say tarasov chernyshov wanted to make an attempt to return, well, it was already too late, but there are also more evil versions, for example . here are the people who still worked in that hockey in the seventy-second year told me that tarasov chernyshev had such a tradition, after another victory he would come to the sports committee to see the minister of sports pavlov, the famous legendary pavlov , sighing and saying, well, we’re tired, that’s how well, usually it ended with some kind of persuasion, you understand, yes, in fact , the stakes were not very high, i mean financial, but it still ended with persuasion. and it’s like an extension there, in this case, well, we’re tired, well, it’ll probably take a week to drive here, by car you can do all of two, vladivostok, the city of bridges, water, lighthouses, delicious seafood, it won’t catch fire, no, it won’t catch fire, but only if
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it tastes, there were also welders asking for help below, this is the amur tiger, the biggest kitty in the world, and even... they love, we can send you there, is it possible to press somewhere now, naturally, if you press something, something may change, we don’t need this now, we almost survived. this is literally the edge of the world, look how beautiful it is! go! premiere on saturday on the first! why is the name of chernyshov forgotten in our minds? we talk about tarasov all the time. tarasov is the founder of hockey. today we remember egorov. chernyshova, you are definitely in touch. senior coach, in general, yes,
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in general, he is a four-time olympic champion , by the way, by the way, yes, this is generally a unique story, yes, that is, 56, 64, 68, 72, yes, and at the same time look, the show is almost forgotten, why did this happen, why tarasov remains like a real hockey icon, well, listen, tarasov really was incredible, incredible. soviet union, because he adored the camera, adored the spotlight, the press, publicity in general, he knew how to work for the camera, the camera loved him, he loved the camera, because again, journalists who worked for central television in the sixties. they were filming, and tarasov, they said that he was simply transformed,
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that is, the training plan immediately changed, that is, everything was under the camera, everything was under a beautiful picture, and there, if it was like that before, well, the normal training process is going on, once the camera is turned on, an eagle a look, a voice, it means the weights on the barbells are increasing, it’s more fun, yes, everything goes , yes, but television loves such a picture, he was one of the first, even a future novice coach, back in the early fifties, he let to the locker room. was an active coach, he didn’t write books , he, well, spoke in the press, but in general , quite formally, was less friendly with
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the press, appeared less on tv, in fact there are a lot of nuances that influence all this, for example, with chernyshov had a bad back, well, in the second half of the sixties he could not work on the ice , so he was more of a fence in the shade, and tarasov worked on the ice, again, either in the spotlights or in the chamber, of course, the person who ice, yes, this is it little by little a shift... towards tarasov, it began to occur in the sixties, and was already established with the help of our canadian friends, partners, who in the seventies, since they did not really understand what and how was happening here, they called it like this, the father of soviet hockey is officially , now, when we talk about hockey , we are talking about his salary, he is a millionaire whose life has already been successful, who provides not only for himself, his family, but probably also his grandchildren , he can quite easily provide for him if he is a top player , in those days, stars... what kind of people were these, these were incredibly wealthy citizens, well , in those forties and sixties, when
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the era of soviet hockey began, well, listen , you probably still can’t call them incredibly wealthy, yes it is clear that he is a professional football player and hockey player in the soviet union, that in the thirties, well, in general , in any years, yes, and he lives better than the average there, much better than... this is his father, plus overseas, plus some bonuses, and so on and so forth, the
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circle runs around. the next term is important factor - this is the opportunity to somehow buy something with this money, yes, that is, without overpaying, that is, to gain access to certain benefits, such as a hat, a refrigerator, a sheepskin coat, a car, or the classic scheme, but there in the season is given to a team, let’s say there are two volgas, you buy it at the state price, well, roughly 10.00 rubles, yeah, you immediately resell it, well, depending on... in the seventh year he moved from saratov to moscow becoming the head coach of moscow spartak , he told me this personally, i say i was in i’m shocked that spartak hockey players live worse than
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crystal, that is, this material support, the salary is lower, maybe about... we’ll get you into college, you’ll study, an apartment, living conditions if you’re a family member, and so on and so forth, that is, of course - nothing changes, but who were the best friends of the hockey players with the exception of the cosmonauts vladimir vysotsky, the market director,
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the store director are always the best friend of either a soviet hockey player or a georgian football player. the podcast is called hockey football, why is there hockey in our country? football, hockey football, and for you personally? listen, since childhood i am a person who played well in the summer, well, childishly, and amateurishly, played football in the summer, hockey in the winter, and on the same grounds, and at the same time i also read the weekly magazine, which was called football-hockey, and for it makes no difference to me, listen, for me what for... thank you very much, thank you, thank you,
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hello, this is the kotre podcast.
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everywhere in the press, from computer screens, television screens, from mobile phone screens, yes, in this sense, yes, is it necessary to explain now to a wide audience, what is a neural network and how does it work? it seems to me that no, oddly enough, because we all use those very same mobile phones and to begin to explain now, what is called from adam, there is such a big science, quantum solid state physics, thanks to it, it arose. conductors, thanks to the advent of semiconductors, what previously, with the help of large electric lamps, radio tubes, could be assembled electronics that were placed there in cabinets, it turned out to be possible to miniaturize to the level of a device in your pocket and at the same time there can be billions of transistors, unlike lamps, well, who really cares about this, people don’t have radio waves, and even
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radio waves, and what is wi-fi, how does it differ from gps, really? old, including russian fairy tales, well , ivanushka rode around the village on a stove, well, now there’s a different form factor, well, in general, the problem. unmanned transport was solved on a slightly different hardware base, not with the help of a furnace, with the help of something familiar, four basics, but they went through, well, well, it was solved in general
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approximately the same way, then again in these fairy tales there was a pike, it’s also a problem to talk with some creature, with some kind of entity, i’ll even say this, and at the same time get some information, perhaps something... then change in the world around us, well... i can talk to a smart speaker, and the lights in my house will turn on, a fairy tale, which just thanks to these digital technologies has slowly become an everyday reality, but a fairy tale always has villains, can it dispel artificial intelligence become these villains, will they take over the neural network world, will they kill us, won’t they capture us, won’t they kill us, but what is it, where do you get such optimism from, for some reason you are now avoiding using a word that is also almost well... maybe a phrase from the year twenty-three, artificial intelligence, and with all the claims to this word, which i can expound for a long time for the whole program, with all the claims to this word there is one
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important thing, it’s really about intelligence, it’s about the fact that we taught computers, there are smart speakers, it doesn’t matter, we taught some devices around us to solve those problems, which traditionally related to human intellectual activity , but for some reason... while everyone is talking about tasks, these are intellectual tasks, i don’t know, chess, chess, writing an essay, this is all an intellectual activity, taking over the world is it’s not intellectual activity, it’s goal-setting, it’s personality, it’s about presence, yes, yes, yes, it’s about goal-setting, it ’s about ethics, it’s about morality, it’s about motivation, all these things are not about some kind of intellectual actions, they about other characteristics human personality, this shift that... is sometimes done, well, for example, in fiction, and this is correct, the terminator is not just an intelligent, very powerful mechanical robot, he is also a very unique personality,
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so he wants someone then to take revenge, to conquer someone, to punish someone, and so on, but these are characteristics of his personality, not his intellect, so far we have no idea whether we can create an artificial personality at all, well, we don’t know how to approach. how to create copies, how to create procedures that reproduce our intellectual actions, chess is a vivid example, or there is translation from one language to another, we know this, we can do this, we can do it better every day, personality, motivation, morality, is it possible for the emergence of artificial , emotional intelligence , artificial social intelligence, i would prefer not to look simply because... that i, despite all my gray mane, have not yet sclerotized to forget what they talked about 35 years ago, just when internet,
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modem, my computer is connected to some computer in another city altogether, wonderful, wonderful, at that time, of course, there were a lot of forecasts, and how many forecasts were there at the turn of the century in 2000, because all of humanity, here we are entering a new era, not just, in the new millennium, how will it be?
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which steam engine is still warming up there, but no, it will be centralized energy generation, it will be power plants, it will be wires, this was not even close to being foreseen, but it may happen that 5 years will pass and people will say, well, she’s russian, well, yes, she can do something, well, she does essays well, well, she translates text, well, what else can she do, then she will occupy her niche , something else will appear, completely new, no less amazing , well, i think so, maybe not in five. maybe there after some time, we saw this again with the example of those very smartphones that we now have in every pocket, because when they just started appearing, there really was such an aura, here is the reality control panel, here i can do anything , i can grandma from the forest call, i can watch my favorite tv show while sitting on the train, and it’s
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perceived. like a miracle, but it’s normal that we stop perceiving all these things as a miracle literally after a few years, and a miracle is something new that we haven’t thought about before, so i think that if this is not the word of the year in the twenty-third year , then in thirty-three, well, a neural network so that neurochildren are not seen, well, still returning to the future and the world of the profession, okay, we agreed that for now neural networks will not kill us, the world will not take over and army of neuroorots.
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they didn’t succeed, because in the end, well, the first operating systems there , especially for older people, it was difficult or some kind of windows, the courses were expensive, windows users, because without this a person, well, without going through such courses , i couldn’t just continue to do my work, because he had, well, i don’t know, instead of a typewriter, he actually had it before...
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and like many previous years, i took part there in the preparation of a large international conference, which was mainly online, which is important, it is still important, this year for the first time, unlike all previous years, we did not have a budget for synchronizers, we had, as in previous years, international speakers, but now we could afford to launch a neural network service translation. which yes , with a delay of a few seconds, but when it’s an online conference, it’s technically very easy to shift the entire broadcast by a few seconds, then you actually have everything, even so to speak, the synchronization of smiles from what the person says goes perfectly great, so the story is that the translator profession will, again, not die, but it will be very much transformed, and current copywriters will probably also remain unemployed, and you
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know who? without work, it’s true that it’s not that there’s such a very official labor market, but all over the world there is a huge, i don’t know, gray shadow market, this is writing various essays on order from term papers, well , listen, well, we still know that there is some the number of people who and they are all over the world who study to it’s just that they really have no desire or any other motivation to get this piece of paper themselves. to submit all these works in written form, and this is a huge market that has served them all their lives, it is collapsing before our eyes, because the algorithm can now write the same work only for free, and the conditional taxi driver will be left without work, here is a new city, there i don’t know when it’s very small, the new vynopolis there, for example, in russia’s vanapolis there are already unmanned taxis running and actually carrying people, but
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it’s tiny. more stories begin there, for example, just about replacing cars , the number of autonomous cars that will replace taxi drivers, well, there are 3 and a half of them in the whole country, but legal problems, financial problems, they are wildly expensive, there are a lot of unresolved ones, that is, even when these problems are already will be resolved, all the same , those same 25-30 years will pass for us, for now, really. mass unmanned taxis, so this means that no one will leave the current taxi driver without work, spelling errors, smastic, punctuation and factual errors are striking, in the far east they allegedly started issuing
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summonses for further dispatch to the northern military district zone, and they manage to spell vladivostok incorrectly, mix up the name of the street, this protest russia is financed superbly from all sorts of soros funds, they have a huge system of tsips working for them, a dystopia from... agents in berdyansk allegedly surveillance of residents has been stepped up to recognize the faces of ukrainians. if this were true, how good it would be, so that one could figure out by the face who wrote this blizzard. antifake premiere tomorrow on the first. what worries you, your majesty? why is all of europe up in arms against me? your majesty. the fact is that my orders are not being carried out, replacing barge labor with the achievement of science is a great idea, viva, taking the throne is not enough, you still need to hold it, it seems, no, i
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have no personal hobbies, i have time for they don’t exist, and don’t torment me with your stupid jealousy, great, golden age, big premiere from february 5, on the first. this is schrödinger's podcast, my guest andrey sebrant, and we are talking about artificial intelligence, about neural networks and how they will change our world. but if we take such professions as a taxi driver, a policeman, that is , those that are connected with people, does the question arise?
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a working , sound recording, sound reproducing device of good quality, and what was much worse for musicians was the appearance of a sound track in films, and before that musicians, en masse, for example, sitting in cinemas and providing what we now call the soundtrack to a film, here they are worked with live sound, a powerful movement arose against something that was called very well with such a good evil word, preserve.
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recording on your smartphone, or you can go to the concert hall and listen to live music as before, that is, it will be about the same story, not that everything will be crowded out, but moral problems will force you to refuse, solutions will be found in some situations, yes there will definitely be a person, well, for example, the simplest frontal decision, that in any case, when some decision concerning a person is made by an algorithm, the appeal must be considered only by... a person, yeah, well, for example, this is the simplest logical move, for example, well, if we are talking about the legal system, about the police, not only, not only, look, there are a lot of complaints that oh, but what about loans, more and more in the financial sector decisions are made by complex
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algorithms, but this algorithm, either it is simply poorly written, or it was tortured for the wrong reasons, it can begin, well, for example, to deprive some group of people of these very financial benefits, those same loans, like a person , then suddenly it turns out that the algorithm fulfilled its function, because in fact they are starting to give out more loans, these are the things where before people, well, were kind of cautious, didn’t want to let the bank down, well, it’s somehow unclear, suddenly it turns out that the algorithm says okay, okay, actually he is a completely reliable borrower, so a huge number of newly approved loans will benefit the bank; those people who previously considered the entire flow will now consider the flow. those who were dissatisfied that he was not given a loan, and what
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will happen to the teachers, they will also a critical profession is rare, but no, here the teacher is actually about something else, the teacher is not about the transfer of knowledge, the teacher is about, if we are to transfer something, then life experience, this is, first of all, really, forgive the big words, school of life, here i am completely in favor of introducing stories with all sorts of algorithms as much as possible, because it... it sounds nice that the teacher should think about every textbook, and the teacher sits, fills out endless forms and checks homework , this is exactly the algorithm can make a better teacher, freeing him up for a much more human, more emotional, deeper interaction with students. often a teacher is like a person who can once again share his personal human experience, and this is fundamentally different from any artificial one.
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your emotions, absolutely right, that is, all these technologies, they are not so much killers of the profession, but they are very interesting modifiers, and as we know, well, from the experience of even previous computerization, digital transformation, not everyone will survive this, however, someone will learn and become a much stronger teacher, a manager there , someone else, someone will be forced to look for another profession about...
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it won’t change, someone just wants to come, i don’t know, to that the same bar on
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friday and wait until his heart skips a beat, looking at this other person, someone will say, well, the computer can do it better than me, many people still think that the computer will find me better, because at least he has a richer choice, then i, let him give me an option, then i’ll figure out the wipes there, which one options will be useful, but if neural network technologies develop here, is it possible that... you are ivan ivanov, we analyzed your entire past, all your thoughts, and you need jessica johnson from such and such a state in the usa or will they trust this .
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and you say, guys, stop, let’s correct the recording, because you have it wrong, that’s why you’re doing it wrong , the person brings out and looks up at you, aunty of such , here’s a video in person, it’s written like this on my computer, you understand everything for her, here’s the computer - this some kind of higher power, higher knowledge, it’s written there, don’t tell me where you really live, everything is written on the computer, still interpersonal.
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that i am on the seashore, and we, holding hands, will leave this shore and live happily ever after, those people who believe so, they still will not go to the most ideal algorithm, well, it has different principles. pyotr nikolaevich, master of sports, member of our country’s olympic biathlon team, why
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bother singing, but i’m bored, we’ll fix the house, we’ll find students. and the header is an athlete a loser found a champion in the taiga. you will go to a sports school. then, if you’re lucky enough to go to the olympics , eat. and they do everything well. what is it? broken by these fishermen? i don't want to go to your olympics. i want to kill vitya. have a little pity. you still won't bring your father back. let's train four times a week, three running, one shooting, then i'm in, i mean, well, let's kill him together, fakes, a thriller built on the collision of two realities, two people, there are crimes, and love, and most importantly ethnography which one of them is a hero? boy or adult, there is also a big question and
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the rite of passage that takes place there, this story could have happened to anyone on saturday at the first. with you is the popular science podcast foot schrödinger, i am its host grigory tarasevich , our guest andrey sebrant, and we are talking about neural networks, about artificial intelligence and about how important it is in the era of progress of robots and artificial intelligence, to be emotional, to understand oneself, to understand others, to sympathize with others, to be human, another human thing is true and lies, it is clear that truth and lies... have dominated the fake, well, here, by the way, this very story arises, which is very closely connected
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with the use of all these mere networks, algorithms in jurisprudence, because there is another concept of justice, which very close to the question of truth and lies, abstract justice doesn’t seem to exist very much, after all, there is always... justice in this specific situation and it turns out that there can, of course, be algorithms, such experiments have been carried out a little, more objective, than a person but people will still prefer a biased decision, the opportunity to talk with a judge, there with a person making some kind of fateful decision for them, looking into his eyes, because they... deeply believe that they do not need an absolutely fair, an absolutely ideal solution, they need a decision from a person who understands how to fit into their
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position, that is, again empathy, again emotional intelligence, well, after all, will some neural network mechanisms for filtering out fakes from reliable information appear? here's the story about the fact that people for various reasons want to be manipulated by other people, this is a story. pre-technological, of course, technology helps to do this, but only helps, just another powerful tool, and a tool in this case for lazy people, that is, here is a story about how you can show a fake picture and convince a person so, it differs from the story that as if it was documented many times in the last century, when it is from the right angle...
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in this way to convey your point of view, now you are just making a fake, using it in this quality, but in general to promote, i
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’m talking about this, that this is a powerful tool, all these modern technological fakes, on the one hand, are a powerful tool, on the other hand, there is, maybe i have a naive hope that it is precisely because of its accessibility and now the prevalence will develop some kind of immunity, what...

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