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as is customary now, from fet, the tyutchev bloc, their iconostasis consisted of, when they were fooled with their heads, have a conscience, they said, their voices were bitter and quiet, they did not go to the party meeting, there were no party members among them, their books were cut by censorship. they were spared by a fool’s bullet, and some of them went through arrest, they looked gloomily from distant places, returning, like wild flowers, they knew how to please any, snowdrop, buttercup, the light was on, and i, the young ones were drawn to them, was warmed by their attention, there was ... modesty in them, a superfluous word -
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spirituality, i don’t remember in restrained speeches, death, well death, there was a readiness for it and silence, not fear, we are talking about my older friends, here is ldiginsburg, berkovsky, maksimov and so on, so i feel bliss.
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finished, only nekrasov is left, and we know that this is not so, and tyuchev is wonderful, we read the ifet, inokintiansky, a wonderful poet, and so on, so maybe it seems to us, it is quite possible, that in some trash, a young man is now writing wonderful poetry, how do we know, i am sure that there are such people, russia needs poetry, i will read a comic poem, small, the one who doesn’t dance dances, davlatov loved him, the one who doesn’t dance dances, taps a glass with a knife, the one who doesn’t proudly dances, shouts from the podium, who really dances and... so we heard
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about attempts to cancel russian culture. how do you feel about these attempts? is it possible to cancel russian culture? no, of course, how will you cancel it, excuse me, will you hide cheikovsky, or remove shestakovovich, or the artists sterov, where will you put coroilin, and how is that possible, in rubil, but no, of course, but tolstoy. and chekhov, what are you talking about? it was created forever, where do you get your energy , and how to make life around you consist of swallows and not of hawks, to be honest, i don’t know, i don’t know, maybe
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it somehow depends on the character of the person, some people are gloomy, yes, i myself can be gloomy - it all depends on my mood, but i’ll still say, you can’t write poetry - in the darkness, poetry is joy, poetry is a gift from god, so to speak, it’s a gift of fate, that’s when you write them, you are happy, and i am sure that pushkin was a happy man. and this despite all the troubles of his life, well , who knows, the same thing can be said about artists, the same can be said about composers, i recently read
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berberova’s book about tchaikovsky, it was very difficult, i didn’t think about life at all. that it is so difficult, i will not go into details , but his music is amazing, really , just remember the queen of spades, yes, wonderful, i sing to her, it would seem, the queen of spades, a gloomy plot, every period in life has its own charms , youth has some, maturity has others,... do they have some, some joys in old age? i’ll tell you the truth, old age is a hard time, i won’t lie, all sorts of troubles appear, illnesses,
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here and there, but now i’ll try to remember my poems, punishments. for a long life it is called old age, but fate tells the old man, you are punished, live, and live with admiration, excitement, hope and joy, who did not live to old age, does not know everything, but or and so on, thundered on social networks during the pandemic poem. you don’t choose times, they live and die in them, why did people find this poem again made it terribly popular, but they liked something there, i’m not against this poem, only it was written earlier,
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has nothing to do with the pandemic, well, that means it says something that people need, they don’t choose times, they live and... “ there is no more vulgarity in the world than to beg and blame, as if you can exchange them for these, like in the market , what is not a century is an iron age, but a wonderful garden smokes, a cloud shines, at the age of 5 i had to "scorlatina die, live in an innocent age in which there is grief." no, you're lucky you ask, but you don’t want to live with menacing people, you don’t dream of the plague, the florentine and leprosy, you want to ride in first class, and not in the trium, twilight, what is not a century, is an iron age, but
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a wonderful thing is given, a cloud fades, i will embrace my century , my fate, goodbye, time is a test, don’t envy anyone, tight hugs, time is skin, not a dress, its deep seal, as if... fingerprints from us, its folds, if you look closely you can take it. you are watching the precious stories podcast. we welcome you all, we are the hosts of the podcast. sergei mikhailovich nikrasov, director of the all-russian pushkin museum. ekaterina
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varkan, author of the most interesting books that i read with pleasure, including those about jewelry. before bedtime. before bedtime. today we decided to remember the decembrists. on december 14, 1925, taking advantage of the dual power, a group of nobles went to senate square to express the government’s bewilderment at the state of the empire. so to speak, to put it mildly, then they were arrested, tried, deprived of ranks, titles, demoted and exiled, in the twenty-sixth year along the vladimirov highway, the first strong ones had already gone to siberia, and their women, wives, sisters and brides followed them, usually they only talk about wives, but there were sisters’ brides, this is also a very, so to speak, important moment, it was not customary in russia women to leave... their men, and there were quite a lot of cases when in siberia, even before this famous women’s campaign of 26-27 and
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subsequent years in siberia, there were quite a lot of cases, quite interesting, for example, in the 18th century, the first beauty and the first rich woman, say, russia, shermetieva natalya borisovna, for her husband, ivan dolgoruky, also went to bereza in 1730, where his serene highness was not found. with the help of the long-armed ones hidden there, but she married him when he was already in great apalia and then wrote in her memoirs that yes, i showed that in all life situations, in love, in difficult trials, i was my friend man, there were other quite well-known stories to sergei mikhailovich, well , of course, yes, if you remember the end of the 18th century and alexander nikolaevich radishchev, who was convicted and was sent to siberia for a ten -year hopeless stay there, it
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was not his wife who went after him, his wife had already, unfortunately, died, but his wife’s sister, his sister-in-law, went, and this was not at all welcomed, children appeared in siberia, and despite the fact that on the way back, upon returning, when paul was the first to cancel this sentence, the cruel sentence of radishchev on the way back, they returned to the radishchevskoye estate, then radishchev’s father refused to even recognize children born in siberia, not from his wife, but from this sister-in-law , which also accomplished a feat, and it was doubly difficult, because such a direct family relationship, namely the wife, was not here, the sister-in-law, this also happened in russian history, in general, women...
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famous people, nikolai alexandrovich bestuzhev, who in st. petersburg he invented the bestuzhev boat , a rescue boat, he used the bestuzhev economical stove so that , here he is, a handsome man with sideburns, and in order to use less, so to speak , all sorts of firewood and coal, and then he made some kind of clock, who walked there. studied astronomy, astrology, seismology, built an observatory, and
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then they were in exile in a settlement with his brother mikhail, the third brother alexander was in yakutsk, it was they who came up with the idea of ​​forging rings from shackles, this idea mikhail recalls that when the valleys were removed by order of the emperor. then they gave some small gifts to the guards, the soldiers, and they gave these shackles, these two brothers, mostly did not forge nicholas, but mikhail, here we see him, forged the rings. and of course, they forged the first rings ourselves, but we don’t have these rings, they are lost , but we can see the ring, because it means there was a story that the decembrists lived in siberia and quite often met with local women and children also appeared, bistuzhev also had one, so to say, such an illegitimate child, who after
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his death was raised in the family of the merchant startseva, therefore had the surname startsev. so the child’s name was alexey dmitrievich startsev, and he was a russian merchant of the first guild, then he became an industrialist, commercial adviser, owner of the parokhodov newspaper factories in including the putyatin islands in the far east, and so, according to legend , according to recollections, he always wore his father’s ring on the little finger of his right hand from scandals, and we can actually see, that means... also look at this ring, but there are rings for to our joy we always say which ones have actually been preserved, preserved, not lost, and one of them, in general , which is kept by you, sergei mikhailovich, in the collections of your museum, the ring of our first friend, ivan ivanovich’s pushchina, this
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ring, yes, this is the ring, moreover, there the date indicated corresponds to his birthday. therefore, this is especially interesting for us, it is known that ivan ivanovich pushkin was really the closest friend of alexander sergeevich pushkin, and pushkin’s poems, my first friend, my priceless friend, and i was blessed by fate when my yard, secluded by the sad snow, was announced by your bell , pushkin recalls here the story that ivan ivanovich described in detail, pushkin in his memoirs, when he was in the winter of twenty-five at the beginning of twenty- five. visited pushkin in the village mikhailovsky, they spent two wonderful days, he brought two bottles of french champagne, three bottles of french champagne, and the clicco they drank, first two, and then one more, this last one, as he writes, they drank sadly, because it seemed we felt that we were drinking for eternal
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separation, then ivan ivanovich’s absolutely amazing phrase: pushkin was the first who met me in siberia, and this was really so, because on the very day when he arrived in siberia, alexandra grigorievna muravyova, née countess chernyshova, alexander sergeevich pushkin’s second cousin, just brought him the poem “my first friend, my priceless friend,” and it was truly a priceless gift for ivan ivanovich pushchin. but, for example, i really like the story connected with...
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putting an end to his entire career, having learned about the events of december 14, he comes to pushchin on the morning of december 15, brings him a foreign passport, he did all this literally at night, so that so that he can go abroad and thereby escape from some inevitable, which means
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there are repressions and punishments here, but pushchin, as you know, answered him that he had other ideas. at that moment people came to arrest him when he was there with a false passport in his pocket? a state crime, yes, showing courage, so he was not afraid, one of the few again. in mikhailovsky to meet with yes, and this, of course, suggests that the lyceum brotherhood is not empty words, they were really connected by an amazing relationship of some kind of closeness, kinship, and
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even pushkin, dying in his last minutes, said: “what a pity that neither pushchin nor malinovsky are here, it would be easier for me to die.” and he repeated: “ask for danzas, for his second, he is my brother.” this is extraordinary. important circumstances, we continue our story about the decembrists, and today with you are ekaterina varkan and sergei nekrasov, director of the all-russian pushkin museum. the historical museum houses the ring of prince alexander ivanovich adoevsky, even two shackle rings, these are them, and this is also, in general, such an amazing person, which means he was a fairly wealthy young man, and...
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they lived together, and alexander ivanovich also took part in this performance, then he did such a cunning thing, such a disguise, it means he was on the shore of ekateringka, which means he imitated his heating near the ice hole, which means that a sword, a cloak, a hat remained there , his servant, everyone recognized these things and he was recognized, so to speak, dead, committed suicide, well, probably something like that, but his vigilant uncle gave it away, so...
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a flame will ignite from a spark above the kings, and we know that in '37 he was transferred to the caucasus as a private, and there was such
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the option to curry favor with some kind of lower rank of officer, ask for resignation and live , so to speak, as ordinary people, and somewhere they were not allowed to curry favor for some strange reasons, but there he met mikhailomievich lermantov and became very friendly with him. now read, try, there is a quiet flame in him, the feeling has not gone out, he has preserved the sparkle of his azure eyes, and the sonorous laughter of children, his lively speech and proud faith in people and life,
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then in irkutsk we have the rings of the balkonskys, and sergei grigorievich and maria nikolaevna, the former raevskaya, these rings, it’s interesting, this is her fate, she came out. married not out of some, so to speak , high sensual impulses, she left for siberia, leaving a small child, yes, he died soon after all, it was alexander sergeevich pushkin who wrote the parasitic four lines, in radiance and joyful peace, at the throne of the eternal creator, with with a smile he looks into his earthly exile, blesses his mother and prays... for his father, well, in general, they started making rings, then they started, i have a feeling, they started making them in on some kind of industrial scale, because it was necessary to send - to relatives, friends,
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that is, to remind. we made a necklace, we made a necklace, we poured out crosses , we have one such lady’s ring, we’ll show you, it’s stunningly beautiful, so i would get one for myself, well, bypassing siberia, of course, because it’s two diamonds, a ruby, that’s what it’s like already fashionable ladies' jewelry, which may have been worn in siberia, or perhaps sent to the middle zone, so to speak, in moscow and st. petersburg, and of course it would be chic wear something so wonderful. ring, can i add one very interesting thing, the thing is that we have already mentioned that some rings were made from shackles, this is true, but in our museum there is a gift from the benkendor family, and this is a very interesting gift, this is a tray , a small tray, forged from shackles in the same place in siberia, and if we have underglaze painting there, and if we...
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look at it, that means from the back side, then we will see that it says greetings from the decembrists from siberia, and the date is: 1856 year, that is, this is the year of the amnesty of alexander i , the return of the decembrists, and although this is not a jewel, in its own way, it is a very valuable exhibit not only of ours, who benkendor was, alexandrovich benkendor, the brave general of 1812, he had a big one. a comrade-in-arms of emperor nicholas i actively participated in the trial of the decembrists and then
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headed the third department. bestuzhev, for whom, so to speak, he forged the rings, these are truly amazing things, a memory, and a reason to remember, to talk, we are still grateful to him for portrait gallery that he created, he was a very good artist, he took lessons, and he sketched the decembrists there, and also sketched the surrounding areas where they lived, so now we can
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see all these portraits,
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a spoonful of russian authors, and unexpected thus , alexander alexandrovich bestuzhev ended up there, who was officially no longer alive at that time, although there are many versions unofficially, maybe we will also talk about this someday, in one minute, in one day , the manager of the third loses his place department alexander nikolaevich mordvinov for making such a mistake, and bestuzhev’s portrait is cut out from this collection.
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the story of all this is as follows: a certain alexander devignon came from france, some lithographer or i don’t know an entrepreneur, who he was in 1943, 843 and somehow quickly established a studio in st. petersburg in moscow, opened an atelier and his services enjoyed great success, for some reason - then... this year he went to siberia, which means that the authorities apparently suspected that he wanted to remove the decembrists, the criminals, i think no, he just maybe wanted broaden his horizons, somehow the chukchi , there were supposedly a lot of local residents there, as no one knew exactly
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who lived there, but he really filmed several decembrists, and they took him for a pencil, it ended for he feels pretty bad, because when he arrived in st. petersburg, he was arrested, then they really released him, because he so to speak. gave receipts there that he didn’t even know about the criminals, well, it ended - just like that, which means that all these dorotypes were confiscated and done correctly, if only the pacifier service was not interested in this, then they would have sunk somewhere into the summer, which means they lay in the archives of the special services until a certain time, then they were opened, they ended up in different museums, now they are kept in good hands, so now we will show a few photographs that ...
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they didn’t do that, they went out into the square, look, what an expressive face, what a great photograph, yes, then we have joseph poggio too, so to speak, such a yes poggio, he was a wonderful man, of course, then we have a photograph of our still a favorite, pushchina ivan ivanovich, yes, it’s so interesting , we have several photographs in the museum, but there is no such photograph, so we found it, look, i noticed at podzhu near pushchina, they have chibouks, they have chibouks,
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the best, in fact, here we have it,
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he had a beautiful vegetable garden, one of them, again, thanks to nikolai bestuzhev, which means a watercolor, the courtyard of the petrovsky prison with a vegetable garden, it’s possible that this means we have this vegetable garden, in fact... the decembrists really had a colossal influence on the development of siberia in general in terms of education in terms of introducing many siberian residents to the sciences, their
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stay in many ways ennobled siberian society , so their mission in siberia was perhaps even more significant when they were already in the settlement, it was even more significant than itself... introduction, this is such it was a powerful thought, i usually say that this is the second conquest of siberia after the conquest of ermak, yes, but educational, i usually formulate it that way. we continue our conversation, the precious stories podcast and with you its hosts sergei mikhailovich nekrasov and ekaterina varkan. you can watch all episodes of the podcast lab project on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. i have such a suspicion, again, having studied a certain amount of materials, that a certain number of, well, nobles, who later began to be called decembrists. december performance, they were in
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some kind of strange exaltation, griboyedov calls the exaltation of the twenty -fifth year, but love exaltation, they had some very crazy experiences, some kind of love passions, maybe they were susceptible to this romantic some impulse, including, this was the catalyst for their speech, from griboedov’s correspondence we know that prince alexander ivanovich adoevsky was very much in love with... with a lady who was even older than him, married and he sat there in the evenings; griboyedov was very worried for this strange passion, this feeling, apparently comparing with myself, because i burned out from such a feeling, like griboyedov wrote coal, then i worried, well, what kind of novel griboedov had, it’s not interesting, from which he burned out like coal, that would also be funny i find out, in any case, it was the era of romanticism, so there was a lot of romanticism in relationships.
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big scientific discussions, here, but
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she looked like this, everyone who in the context recognizes her, a magnificent pole, a smart girl from connections with the russian government, in principle roleev, he’s an average poet, but we had one, he was more of a citizen, suddenly i absolutely can’t believe my eyes when i open love lyrics from just that time, twenty- fourth-twenty-fifth year, dedicated to this woman of the elements, bestuzhev writes that these the poems are dedicated to her, i’m just a small piece. it means i read it, i ca n’t, with your kindness, the dangerous, magical sweetness of your speeches, you reminded my soul of a distant land, a beautiful land, and also, i’m carried away by my fate, i myself am running to destruction, i’m afraid to meet you, and not to meet, not i can, but he reaches a completely different height, and how does this correspond to the portrait that is currently in effect, yes, and these are simply amazing miracles, ruleev had a whirlwind romance. then we have mikhail sergeevich lunin, we know from pushkin, there is lunin
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boldly proposed his decisive measures, this was in his youth in his youth, but then he moved away from such, so to speak, harsh rules, and he lived in warsaw in the twenty-fifth year, was the favorite adjutant of konstantin pavlovich, who was the governor of the kingdom of poland , so he had an affair with the beautiful natalya. pototskaya, when all these troubles happened on senate square, for some reason they wanted, so to speak , to get to russia in st. petersburg, konstantin pavlovich resisted very strongly and even suggested that he go hunting to go to germany, but this, too, by the way, to lunin’s honor, he said that no, he went on a trip and returned, ended up in st. petersburg, so he was sitting in vyborg castle, and here, too, there is such an interesting story, the governor-general of finland zakrevsky.
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and she died in the thirtieth year, he didn’t know about it, after that he still wrote, which means he wrote and was sad, that’s the story, and at the same time he began to write anti-ruler treatises.
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very few people know anything at all, just if you go over it briefly, for example, in 1919, at the age of 13, he was already released from the naval cadet corps at the age of 17, was a teacher of astronomy, higher mathematics and mechanics, in the years 18-21, 22 to 25 , he traveled around the world, then the commander, commander of the cruiser was mikhail lazarev, later an admiral, in general he is so very... strange there was a man, he was very short and behaved very strangely, he had very strange comments, he walked around in strange capes, in some kind of caps with veils, in general he made some strange remarks, well, what can you do, in the events, when they took place on senate square, he was not in st. petersburg, but
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he somehow came under attack and was released, because he was in no way, well, he was only familiar with relay, because during his trip around the world there... just one of the tasks was, that means, work in the russian-american company in which irileev also worked, he was released, but he, therefore, achieved that he was arrested a second time and wanted to be in the center of events, the participant is 21 years old, in general with crazy, we are very grateful to him for what he he left the most extensive memories, absolutely stunning memories, he left, it ’s amazing to read it, i just advise everyone to read it, a lot, not even impartial about our friends the decembrists, a lot of funny stuff, but he scolded them for... they didn’t take care of the soldiers, then he noticed, that in general, the serfs who came with their wives , no one exiled them to siberia, so let’s say, yes , he told how the decembrists went to work, that means everyone took out the samovar, played lotto, so whoever wanted, that means with with a shovel, if then this is, well, to maintain physical fitness
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, some wonderful party was described, when everyone was in tuxedos, and also a string orchestra played, a string... quartet, because the soundboard was already for the settlement, for the settlement everyone played music well, that’s actually speaking, as a result, when in the fifty-sixth year everyone was released , the majority returned, and to russia, he remained there, continued his educational activities, in general fought with the authorities in every possible way, wrote treatises, the authorities considered his stay in transbaikalia dangerous and sent him to moscow for bad behavior.
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