officer to ask for resignation and live , so to speak, as ordinary people, and somewhere they were not allowed to curry favor for some strange reasons, but there he met mikhailomovich lermantov, became very friendly with him, this is surprising for lermontov, because he was very complex a man of character, he didn’t get along very well with the decembrists, so to speak, but here suddenly such an extraordinary friendship and love was born, they went there, walked, read poetry.

there are rings of the balkonskys, and of sergei grigorievich and maria nikolaevna, the former raevskaya, these rings, it’s interesting, this is her fate, she didn’t get married out of some, so to speak, high sensual impulses, she went to siberia, leaving a small child, yes, he died soon after all, exactly...

we have one such ladies’ ring, we’ll show you, it’s stunningly beautiful, so i would get one for myself, well, bypassing siberia, of course, because it’s two diamonds, a ruby, this is the kind of fashionable ladies’ jewelry that might have been worn in siberia, or maybe they were already sent, so to speak, to the middle zone in moscow-petersburg, and of course, it would be chic to wear such a wonderful ring. can i add one

very interesting thing: the thing is that we have already mentioned that some rings were made from shackles, this is true, but in our museum there is a gift from the benkendor family, and this is a very interesting gift, this is a tray, a small tray forged from shackles in the same place in siberia, and if we have underglaze painting there, and if we look at it... that means, on the back side, we will see that it says hello from decembrists from siberia, and the date is 1856 , that is, this is the year of the amnesty of alexander i, the return of the decembrists, and although this is not a jewel, in its own way, it is a very valuable exhibit not only of ours, who is benkendor, alexander kristoforovich benkendorf, brave general 1812 year, he had a great friend, divided the year 1825,

because sergei grigorievich volkonsky was one of the leaders of the decembrist uprising, and alexander khristoforovich benkendor, the closest comrade-in-arms of emperor nicholas i, was actively participated in the trial of the decembrists, then headed the third department.

for the fact that, so to speak, he forged the rings, uh, these are really amazing things, a memory, a reason to remember, talk, we are also grateful to him for the portrait gallery. which he created, he was a very good artist, he took lessons, and he sketched the decembrists there, and also sketched the surrounding areas where they lived, so now we can see all these portraits, there are more, more than 100 portraits, well firstly his self-portrait, which is at the very beginning we are here they could see, they just showed, a portrait of his brother, portraits of other decembrists, but here’s an interesting story:

let’s talk about this, in one minute, in one day , the manager of the third department, alexander nikolaevich mordvinov, loses his place for making such a mistake, and from this collection a portrait is cut out without a tight one, i don’t even understand where they even got it from to put it there, and they say that in some honest collections there are several copies where there is a portrait of bestuzhev, then i, for example, don’t know . which one is there the portrait could be located, to be honest, i don’t know either, but we have photographs of the decembrists in siberia, and the story of all this is this: a certain alexander devenion came from france, some kind of lithographer or i don’t know,

an entrepreneur, who he is, in 43, 843 and somehow quickly established a business in st. petersburg in moscow, opened an atelier and his services enjoyed great success, for some reason in 1945 he... writes that he didn’t even know about the criminals, well that’s over , in this way, it means that all these degeratypes were removed and they did the right thing, if the nipple service had not been interested in this, then they would have sunk into oblivion somewhere, but that means they lay in the archives of the special services until a certain time,

then they were opened, they ended up in different museums, and are now kept in good hands , now we will show a few photographs that we have, this... on the square, look, what an expressive face, what a great photograph, yes, then we have joseph poju, also, so to speak, the same, he was a wonderful person , of course, then we have a photo of ours after all pushchin’s favorite, ivan ivanovich , that’s so interesting, we have several

photographs in the museum, but there is no such photograph, so we found it, look, i noticed at the foot of pushchin, they have chibouks, they have chibouks, it’s so chic. separate, in general, at that time, as far as i understood, studying a large amount of material, it seemed to me, at least, that smoking tobacco was considered some kind of sign.

we continue our conversation, the precious history podcast, with you its host

sergei mikhailovich nikrasov and ekaterina varkan. you can watch all episodes of the podcast lab project on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. i have this suspicion, again, having studied a certain amount of materials, that a certain number of, well, nobles, who later began to be called decembrists, before the december speech. they were in some kind of strange exaltation, griboyedov calls the exaltation of the twenty -fifth year, but a love exaltation, they had some very crazy experiences, some kind of love passions, maybe subject to this romantic some impulse, including, this was the catalyst for their speech, from griboyedov’s correspondence, we know that prince alexander ivanovich adoevsky was very much in love with a lady... who was even older than him, married , and he sat there in the evenings, griboyedov was very

worried about this strange passion, this feeling, apparently comparing with myself, because from such a feeling i burned out like coal, i wrote griboyedov, so i worried, well, what kind of novel did griboyedov have, it’s not interesting, from which he burned out like coal, it would also be it’s funny for me to know, in any case, it was the era of romanticism, so there was a lot of romanticism in relationships

, not a poet, but we had one, he was more of a citizen, suddenly i don’t believe my eyes at all when i open love lyrics, just like that of that time, twenty-fourth-twenty-fifth year , dedicated to this woman of the elements, bestuzhev writes that these poems are dedicated to her, i’m just a small piece, which means i can’t read it, with my kindness, the dangerous, magical sweetness of speeches, you are a distant land, beautiful, to the soul

reminded me of mine, and i’m also carried away by my fate, i myself died... or i’m running , i’m afraid to meet you, but i can’t meet you , but he reaches a completely different height, and how does this correspond to the portrait that now here on the screen, and these are just amazing miracles, ruleev had a whirlwind romance, then we have mikhail sergeevich lunin, we know from pushkin, there lunin boldly proposed his decisive measures, this was in his youth in his youth, but then he moved away from such... so to speak, harsh rules, and he lived in warsaw in the twenty-fifth year, was the favorite adjutant of konstantin pavlovich, who was the governor, that is , of the kingdom of poland, so he had an affair with the beautiful natalya pototskaya, when these troubles happened on senate square, for some reason they wanted, so to speak, to get to russia in st. petersburg, konstantin pavlovich

resisted very strongly and even suggested that he go hunting and go to germany. but this, too, by the way, to lunin’s honor, he said that no, he went hunting and returned, ended up in st. petersburg, and so he was sitting in vyborg castle, and here, too, such an interesting story, the governor-general of finland zakrevsky, arseny andreevich came, well, with a commission, yes, that means, to check the inmates, they were such, well, serious people, there was such a prison building there, four-story, on the fourth floor there was a cell and from the ceiling, year, he didn’t know about it, after that he still wrote, which means he wrote and was sad, that

’s the story, and at the same time he began to write anti-government treatises and thought that... he knows, just if you run through it briefly, for example, in nineteen at 13 years old he was already released from the naval cadet corps at the age of 17 and was a teacher of astronomy, higher mathematics and mechanics, at the age of 18-21, twenty-second to twenty-fifth, he made a trip around the world, then the commander, commander of the cruiser was mikhail

lazarev, later an admiral, in general he was such a very strange person, he... was very short in stature , behaved very strangely, there were very strange comments from him, he walked around in strange capes, in some kind of hats with veils, in general he made some strange remarks, well what can you do here? events, when they took place on senate square, he was not in st. petersburg, so, but he somehow fell under the distribution and was released, because he had no way, well, he was only familiar with rayleigh, because during his trip around the world there as once one of the tasks was. it means that he worked in a russian-american company , where irileev also worked, he was released, but it means that he got himself arrested a second time and wanted to be in the center of events, the participant is 21 years old, generally going crazy, we are very grateful to him for the fact that he left the most extensive memories, absolutely amazing memories he left, it’s amazing to read, i just advise everyone, there’s a lot of,

not even impartial, things about our friends the decembrists, a lot of hilarious stuff, but he scolded them for not taking care of the soldiers. then he noticed that in general , the serfs who came with their wives , no one sent them to siberia, so to speak, yes , he told how the decembrists went to work, that means everyone took out the samovar, played lotto, so whoever wanted, that means , with a shovel, if so, then this is for maintaining physical fitness, some kind of wonderful party was described , when everyone was in tuxedos, and also a string orchestra played a string quartet, because - at the settlement everyone played music well, in fact, as a result, when in 56 everyone was released, the majority returned to russia.

yes, we said today, yes, they became a symbol of faith, faith in some kind of freedom, a symbol of loyalty, loyalty to each other, loyalty to their women, and women to their

men, yes, and the guys were brave, they came out with open faces, they didn't sit with a fig in your pocket, why, in general, the history of the decembrists, uh, has always been the most romantic story for us, it was a podcast of precious stories, uh, ekaterina varkan and sergei nekrasov were with you. once i offered my students such a task, gave them a text and asked them to determine its main feature. someone said that the text... was too short and not informative, someone, on the contrary, that it was too long, but they were all wrong. the main feature was that this text was written not by a person, but computer program. hello,

today we are gathering our thoughts about artificial intelligence. arutyushkanovich avitisyan, academician of the russian academy of sciences, director of the institute of system programming, protyrey pavel velikanov, associate professor of the moscow theological academy, i am vladimir ligoida. you know, as a pre-question, as a warm-up question... i want to ask you this, what would you call today the main horror story about artificial intelligence, which has nothing to do with reality, and what do you really have causes anxiety? there are a lot of horror stories , but globally, my opinion is that it is very important that our society and we understand that we are still dealing with advanced it technologies, and not artificial intelligence in the real sense of the word, these are horror stories. concerns mainly and films are being made on this topic, mainly about the fact that artificial intelligence will get out of control, that it will become more powerful than man himself, and it seems to me that here it is very

important to determine this watershed, that it's in in principle, different worlds, and there is no need to be afraid of this in this sense, while the accelerated implementation of any technology, including artificial intelligence, which gives a significant increase in labor productivity, i will say. i think that one of the most dangerous horror stories , which are very attractive to most people, is that artificial intelligence

will imperceptibly replace a person and thereby make his further existence meaningless, so it seems to me that this is, of course , a horror story, that’s what really really worries, worries, it's the eternal problem of man, which at one time still... but 12% of the content on the internet relates to indecent things, but at the same time

yes... 60, even more than 60% of requests are addressed specifically to this area, that is, we are talking about what , that there is an actualization of human sinfulness, we find ourselves surrounded by such vile, very soft, very sticky pillows, from which it takes much more effort to break away, the simplest is an image, an example, a person who lives or at least has experience of life in the village , he's great knows that if he... doesn’t go to the well, if he doesn’t bring water, if he doesn’t bring firewood, feeds the cow, then he can’t give her food, and he simply won’t survive, a person who lives in an apartment, he is guaranteed, even if he practically does not pay for utilities, he knows that he most likely will not be kicked out, it will still be warm, there will still be water in the tap, he will still find something somewhere for himself to scrape, he will go to the neighbors grab something to eat and he has the luxury

of sitting. year published his article, which asks the question, can a machine think? if i'm not mistaken, he then proposed the so-called imitation game, yes, that if there is a presenter, a man and a machine, then the presenter is given a task, he asks questions to these two interlocutors and must determine from them based on the answers which of them machine, which one is human. in my opinion, thuring said that if more than 70 answers are accepted as human in 5, or 10 minutes, then that

means... this is a person, sort of like i read that not a single car has yet passed this test, further with it, as i understand it, they debated it and so on, this doesn’t raise the question of your definition, rakhanovich, that after all, this is definitely not intelligence, but you understand what’s the matter , technology doesn’t work like that, if i don’t know, your diesel engine is made very well , it looks like i don’t know any other super engine, it doesn’t mean that it has ceased to be diesel, but here it ’s exactly the same.

how complex, but technology, from this position we need to consider it, so if such technologies will appear, i , as a person who deals with this, will see this , doubts will begin to appear, i will share, but for now i have no doubts, yes, i have no doubts now, that everything that is happening now is one way or another very well advanced machine learning, with its own tricks, very advanced, good, in this sense, of course, we all know that in many places it is very pragmatic to use it. because it was somehow correctly formulated that, well, i don’t know, there a manager, a doctor, any person with artificial intelligence will replace just a doctor, for example, this is possible because his abilities, as it were, increase, there is writing texts, for example, that is, what i mean is that there is no need to be tempted because of this, that this is something so incredible, when i was listening to you, i also thought that when we look at an unmanned vehicle, it doesn’t mean that it controls the program just

like a person does. a completely different principle, what is called driving, here you are you know, this is a very good topic here, driverless cars don’t really exist, so the fact is that when elon musk, for example, was asked, what did he say, i have an assistant, that is, there are a lot of experiments with driverless cars, but in in the sense that an unmanned car drives wherever it wants and it’s fine, this doesn’t exist, i have been speaking about this for a long time now and talking about the fact that if there is a dedicated circuit, a special environment, whatever you want to call it there, technology.

there is no such spare space, from which could quickly improve the necessary algorithms to solve this issue, well, by the way, i also remembered this now, i read somewhere that if we compare the human brain with a computer, yes, then we still proceed from the fact that the computer is a deterministic system, that is, under the same conditions, we get the same result, and humanity.

is not even discussed anymore, this is no longer a hypothesis, in my opinion pavel balaban, our famous academician there, now he says that everything that connected with human memory, not with neurons at all, connected with new cells, well, not new, but with known ones, and they need to be studied and a new direction, in fact, all this needs to be dealt with, so the brain is a much more complex story, probably this is the most the last thing that a person will be able to study is humanity, so this is some kind of model, it has... for life, it has shown its capacity, but we must treat this in such a way that we have a fairly effective tool for solving the problem, now we need, based on the complexity, which this technology is what it is, we must manage risks, make sure that it does not cause harm, yeah, and

is used to the maximum, well, as always, in principle, in the life of mankind, there was a nuclear reactor, some other technologies are complex, but not attitude to this is that now let ’s implement it everywhere at any cost, because it ’s profitable, well... it’s clear that when you let a person through on the subway, well, what’s the difference, well, even if he cheats and comes in, well, let him come in, that’s will not affect anything, and if it enters a nuclear facility, for example, it’s probably not worth taking risks there, and there should still be contours of protection in order to accurately verify that it is he or not, here it seems to me that world practice is already moving in this direction, the europeans are generally tough, so they announced in may, we discussed this at our conference, and now, in my opinion , they have accepted that artificial intelligence is divided into three parts, one part. will simply be prohibited, for example, the collection of biometrics in public places, social scoring, the second part will be mandatory regulatory, well, for example, in aviation, you know there are strict rules, uh, just if you are not developing an operating system for

aviation from scratch, for example, it is impossible to certify, that is, they are quite strict, and there is no artificial intelligence, this is ordinary software, but it is an extremely dangerous zone and, accordingly, there are costs for certification for support is sometimes many times more than the development itself. we are doing this, so i know it well, we are making a real-time operating system ourselves, finally the third part, when you can use it as you want, it does not affect anything, well, for example, the metro fund from my point of view vision can be introduced into the third part, well , a person comes in, or there , in the dining room, for example, admission, well, well, he ’ll eat one more time, but on a large scale this doesn’t matter, this needs to be discussed somehow in our society , because now the opinions were very different, some believe that there is no need to regulate in any way, some believe that well...

a qualitative leap in understanding the depth of formal data processing, even if we take, relatively speaking, languages ​​there, because today we we are all witnesses to how much has the quality of translation advanced not only from modern languages, but also from ancient ones? for example, i don’t speak the ancient armenian language there, but today, thanks to artificial intelligence, i can imagine in general terms what... the holy fathers said there, interesting for me, of this period, that is, a completely new area is opening up, previously, absolutely inaccessible to me, in my status, with my level of knowledge, an area that i can already use, plus or minus,

quite adequately, i think that, of course, this is a huge help. on the other hand, remembering the story of our seminarians who tried to write a sermon and were then very upset. that, in general, not every one of them could write such a sermon that it would be guaranteed to pass the test of the teacher, this is also great, why? because i will force you.

the fear is in the scientific field. three fat hamsters. ford, carnegie and rockseller foundations. we are determined to play our part in building a better world. how large american funds are trying to take over control over the whole world. they train a mass of people, who then end up in the white house managing everything. a fund of 11 billion passes through itself up to one and a half trillion. you can't just have the cia take over and give money to the opposition for russian interference. in internal affairs, an intermediary, an intermediary to whom it provides intelligence services, tries

to misinform the society where they enter, in russia they failed to do this, let’s say in ukraine they succeeded, and the carnegie foundation, which worked in moscow, was declared an agent and ceased its activities. their main task, after all, is to move on to global depopulation, and this is precisely work with public consciousness, the transgender agenda, the creation of genetically modified nutrition, the golden rist was supposed to feed everyone, and now it turns out that they have to reduce everyone, that they imagine themselves as celestials, and this is why they are dangerous. the funds are the real masters of the west, the dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on the first. the palm is open; under no circumstances should it be clenched into a fist. the only place where there can be a pistol in the left hand is under napkin. we can avoid the opening of a second front only if we decapitate the leadership of countries hostile to us with one blow. they are preparing a large-scale operation in tigeran, dear

gevorg, all six umbrellas that you ordered for your father’s confectionery are ready, six umbrellas meant six paratroopers, whether they were germans or not, then i saw an army boot, they don’t wear those in iran, i’m already on my fourth job a year, during this time i didn’t ask you for anything, and we found these six german radio operators, and the brothers will be someone else, drink some water, comrade stalin grinned, six germans whom we found were being led into the hall, hurray, for the centenary of vartanyan’s gig, on february 17, the first, and 64 years after the tehran events , selya sandes, churchill’s granddaughter, came to moscow, she thanked me for saving her grandfather’s life. academician harutyun avitesyan, proteraeus pavel

velikanov, i’m vladimir ligoido, today we gathered our thoughts about artificial intelligence. you know, i think that there is not a single sector of our life today where artificial intelligence will not be introduced, because once again, this is in my opinion karmar said, yes, that he will somehow sell 100% of the profit and his own mother, there is an obvious benefit from the point of view of our country, because on the one hand this is an advantage, hope, on the other hand, of course, there are risks associated with the loss of jobs, this is discussed there , well... but from the point of view of our huge country, where the population is not very large, this kind of automation will help us master what is now difficult, in this sense, in some sense it’s even easier for us, agriculture, for example, well it is necessary to increase its efficiency, automate, this is all connected again with artificial intelligence, because in traditional ways, if you do this, it’s just very expensive, in medicine, uh, in fact... most of us just don’t go to doctors, to be honest, well, i i mean the population

, and therefore what we are doing is we are trying to move in this direction and those that screen the population is constantly passive, for example, the honor of the devices that we carry with us, there is a single-channel by now the clock has already become, and the person bring to the doctor earlier, but how it is known that the earlier the diagnosis is made , the better it can be treated, from my point of view this will not lead to the fact that doctors will not be needed, on the contrary, the pressure will be even greater, doctors will be needed more. but the efficiency factor can increase sharply, that is, if previously we served i don’t know 100 people there, then we can serve 10 thousand, but more, and a good doctor will be able to convey his knowledge to... for a long time now , methods of analyzing production have not been used there i know there is a flow to reduce defects and it seems to me that there is simply no no problem, this needs to be implemented, i

’m certainly not the person who, despite everything, said that security, trust, who wants to stop this, but this needs to be done wisely again, yes. we need to do so that there is control over this, control does not mean that usually people understand this too, technologically, thank god, we are a fairly advanced country in this regard , we do not lag behind anyone, here’s a little about the social consequences, but i think while many people probably read martin ford's book, the robots are coming, remember this fifteenth, sixteenth year , at least the translation was at that time, i read it in translation, and there were many similar books, it’s surprising that almost all the forecasts did not come true, he...

and never a single invention, including electricity there , at most, did not give such results when our negative effect exceeded the possible positive result in the long term, while he was wrong, judging by his forecast, but are there any risks here, if you allow me, not only will i answer, but i will expand your question into very practical plane, with which i encountered, and i am a person from analog childhood, adolescence, youth. and i remember very well that if you had any problem in interacting with some different services, there was always a hotline number, you could call somewhere - and after some time you could hear the live voice of a live operator, who or would otherwise get involved in your problem. today there is such an option, it is practically absent,

because in most such cases you end up switching to artificial an intellect that will crush you very hard. algorithmized method questions, at some point he simply throws you out and says: that’s it, my possibilities have been exhausted, it turned out that what was supposed to make solving the problem easier ends up driving a person into a dead end, and you understand that listen , and what’s the point of calling there if i still most likely won’t solve this issue, well, this is the stone of your city, in fact, i think these questions are more or less for...

using these technologies for good, so let's talk about education, here i get to my favorite topic.