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but this does not mean that professional translators will not be needed for specialized stories, in this sense , well, yes, there is a social danger that some professions will be unclaimed, well, once upon a time the same thing happened with horses, but in this story, it doesn't seem all that dramatic to me. if we manage all this correctly, that is - especially for our country, where we have quite large resources and a small population, we need to fight to improve the quality of this population, that's what we need invest in education, secondary , in school, first of all, in general, so that the population is literate, then they will be able to get involved in all these processes and - use these technologies for good, here - let's talk about education, here i got to my favorite topics. you said
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in some interview that when we had a magim round table and there, in my opinion, the mathematician gasnikov said that articles were written using a bot, and if i understood correctly, you simply cited this as an example such, well, correct use, and i i ended up on some kind of sky bot, well, in general , he says, write whatever you want, that means, neural networks, please, demo version is free, and i entered a task on a topic that was clear to me, on the topic of my dissertation, neural...
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no, of course, i listen to him, he speaks , i know his knowledge, if his knowledge does not correspond to what is written there, it is still visible, he can order work, and that before this was not the case in all second-rate universities everywhere business, well, you think that this business is going to die because...
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you either run a hundred meters in the required number of seconds, or you don’t run, and the texts won’t help you, this is an obvious thing, in my opinion, again, i’m saying this now on purpose, the problem exists, of course, it needs to be raised, it needs to be discussed, but it is not on the plane that is being discussed, how to make sure that the quality of education in our country increases, not to try to close the school, because this is impossible, because once again physical people will do this, what difference does it make, but how to do it so that in general has grown, how to make these places appear as dots growth, how to do. with colleagues, when we discussed it, after all, of course , you pose the problem more broadly and deeply, and you are this instrumental one, someone said, and we shouldn’t try to prohibit it, we should, on the contrary, give tasks that, well, for example, one of the options and solutions that will include the use of chat, let the student work with chat, this is such, this is a possible way of using it, it’s true, well , of course it’s possible, this is a new toolkit, well, yes, and accordingly, just like that create a new course for this in one day the topic won't work. this needs
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to be involved in this, our designers, writers, will use this one way or another, just at least for inspiration, for example, because you can re-check a thousand options, and then, like a professional, choose what you think is right, this it is quite possible, but this is a different level, and again this cannot be solved by prohibitions or restrictions, you know, i would like to pick up the topic a little with necessity.
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a consumer person, who has always been, in general, not only in the 20th century, but by the fact that he had no right to engage in any professional activity, he could not earn money, but at the same time he had to be deeply immersed in many different areas, in the military sphere, in philosophy, in languages, in culture, he had to draw there and dance there and so on and so forth, what is it, is it? creating a model, not a model , creating a certain person whose main business in life is service, service, of course, a knight is, first of all , service, and service with the understanding that for this service you can and must give our life, this is the norm, it seems to me that
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all this artificial intelligence, the context of high technology, it simply pushes us to the conclusion that if we do not return to the topic of service and do not put it as the cornerstone... of human life in general, then we will have nothing to oppose to these technological possibilities, i would say even more radically, if we have gone in this direction, if we do not dissociate the idea of a person with a function, if we do not return to the understanding that a person is a seeker truth, goodness, love, beauty, and then in general artificial intelligence, no matter how we define it, it has already defeated us, i am afraid that we are now again endowing artificial intelligence with subjectivity, we are trying this more than once... i affirm that this is not so, there is no need to be afraid of it, but i would be opposed to serving the profession as such, i will explain why, because, well, if it turns out that i don’t know, serving the profession is contrary to serving the homeland, what then to choose, or family, for example, or friendship, that’s
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what’s more important, it’s in the person, that’s what a struggle, probably an internal one, and a conversation with the gentlemen, as a person whose profession is unlikely. very often it comes up, here you are making some kind of technology, it can always be used in different ways, this is like an important question, for me it was a discovery that, relatively speaking , the professional dilitancy of a knight in all matters, he was a guarantee, he was still a guarantee that he was not engaged by any profession, any internal, so to speak, conditioning, well, of course. like this chivalry is, among other things, this is actually a cultural interpretation, because the creation of a secular culture, well, i don’t want to, this is completely different, it’s just a step from church culture to secular, by the way, there was no knighthood in russian culture, that’s it
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is also an important cultural fact, the homeland is where it’s always good, the homeland is where you will be supported, and the homeland is something worth living for, he has such a rich soul that people like him simply don’t exist anymore, like a russian, to all russians, and little ones, adults, everyone to our vast, beautiful, generous country, prosperity, continuation, please yourself, you will please yourself, all your loved ones will be joyful. especially for children, the sun will rise, enough is enough, you need to love your country, because it is a good, cool country, so that there are only pure thoughts in your soul, well, everyone, everyone, all the wonderful events, daggers are to their hearts,
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russian daggers are not very cool, how we exposed a large-scale the tsepso operation, with the help of which they wanted to authorize russian missiles to quarrel us with china. pass off any source in hieroglyphs as an official point from the point of view of the communist party of china, a few comments, except for klitschko , no one has intercepted the dagger yet, we are the only country where hypersonic weapons are in service, these are zircon and dagger, and how the un had to admit that russia was right. it turned out that the kiev regime, de facto and dera, put itself in the dock, anti-fake, the premiere is tomorrow on the first. doesn't it happen that there was a person? in your life, here he disappears, even if he dies, in this girl he almost doesn’t recognize the child who 5 years ago lost the most precious thing, his mother, i don’t think that i am without her, i have a pile of memories, but this is my mother, yulia nachalova, died very young at 38, leaving her
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beloved daughter, vera, to her parents and ex-husband. i said that , unfortunately, i have very difficult news for you, that mom is no longer with us, that at that moment, that evening... he lived, only he knows, it’s a big responsibility to tell your child that his mother passed away. how did your only daughter, yulia, survive this loss? what path did she take after her mother’s death? i'm really kind of like that. somehow mega-strong, i felt like everything was like this pulled herself together, that is, our exclusive 5 years of adult life of a girl who decided , no matter what, to become a star in memory of her famous mother, when you came into the world, my life changed, i will always be by your side, exclusive with dmitry borisov, premiere on saturday on the first. academician harutyun avetsyan, proteraeus pavel velikanov, i am vladimir ligoido, we have gathered our thoughts
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about artificial intelligence. look, yuri mikhailovich lotman, what did he say when some kind of technological discovery appears, any, yes, some a revolution, a breakthrough that should make life easier, it always first throws it back, because, as lotman said , he had, he spoke in terms of technology and culture, he said, technology had not yet become culture, then the telephone appeared, we for the first time we can talk without seeing each other, and we don’t understand, we don’t... just like we don’t understand text messages, the person answered us, he’s upset, happy, he doesn’t care, yes, that is, time must pass, says lotman, for the technology has become a culture. my question is: the speed at which changes are happening today, not even the speed of implementation, but the speed of the appearance of something, but the implementation that you were talking about, yes, doesn’t this problem make it extremely acute, can we say that there is a problem that in lotman’s terms, technology does not have time to become a culture, i absolutely agree. moreover, we are right here, each of us can see that throughout our lives
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these so-called revolutions took place several times, although from the point of view of the person who deals with it, this is simply an evolutionary development, it is the world everything around me has changed, and what is happening now on social networks is only the beginning, because we will be immersed there more and more, there are already countries where millions of people simply do not leave their homes at all, i, as a layman, don’t see anything good, from the point of view of these people they are already living. this is normal for them, and this - it seems to me that human adaptive mechanisms are still not limitless at some point, this also changes, uh, does not allow, let's say, a person to come to god, because there is no time already, he lives in a comfortable environment all the time, but you don’t understand that he is eating a hamburger and not eating a steak, i don’t know, and he - because well, everything seems to be there , everything seems to be fine, there is entertainment, and digital entertainment will all be cheaper, cheaper , this... they also talk about this a little too much, but uh, if digital education, the digital
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environment is, this also means a reduction in price, on the one hand it seems to be accessible to everyone, on the other hand it may not be of the highest quality, because you need experience educational shows that there should still be combined methods, that is , digitalization is very good, but not enough, it does not completely replace human communication, but it’s hard for me to imagine that with a priest only through digital...
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possible, here in blitz mode, but very briefly, today there are a lot of opportunities, using the program, to get answers to some of your questions, yes, so-called chats, which they give you options for solutions, one colleague admitted to me that he says, i generally don’t make any decisions without consulting, because well, he just says, he understands better than me, so to speak, and advises. question: do you use this in your life, if so, in what cases? i only use it in case of translation, i don't use it. due to professional necessity, i certainly keep my finger on the pulse, but i don’t use such everyday life, but rather generative artificial intelligence, which will help us more and more, it has its negative sides, which are sometimes rarely talked about, that it can generate very plausible, but
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untrue, for example, i was at the academy of sciences, when i spoke, i gave an example in november, a book was published from a distance on.. therefore, we advocated many years ago that there should be trusted artificial intelligence, among some of the points that we must fulfill is data-related, for example, federated learning, but also watermarking so that we can unambiguously determine, know whether it is generic or not. why? because from my point of view there is no technology that can accurately determine whether it is fake or not. literally in september 2003, the united states government signed with its five large companies that any generic content must have watermarks so that the consumer can clearly determine whether it is generic or not. now active work is underway in this area, i
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hope that in the next few years i’m sure it will just be essentially criminalized who... are increasingly in demand, and in this sense we are also not lagging behind anyone, we are developing one of the countries in the world that has the appropriate technologies, and it seems to me that this is very important, on this optimistic note, dear friends, i am extremely grateful to you , it seems to me that we have talked about a lot of important things, thank you very much again, arutin ashkanovich avitisyan, academician of the russian academy of sciences, director
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of the institute of system programming , russian academy of sciences, proteria pavel velikanov, associate professor of the moscow theological academy, i'm vladimir. today we gathered our thoughts about artificial intelligence, fears and hopes about it. all the best! hello, this is the chronicles of the end times podcast. and i, evgeny dodovolev, will tell you about gastronomic corruption in the soviet union. union, that is, about bribes with food. the fact is that now many people of my generation , older and younger, very romanticize the soviet era. everyone has forgotten about the total shortage, and people are often unhappy when they remember these sufficient humiliating moments when it was impossible to buy some basic things, including
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food, he does not even out this shortage and uh. does not diminish the importance of the social state, which was the soviet union, with its free medicine, free education, stability, and i also think that this is what is important to talk about, what i talk about is always my personal experience, i’m just talking about what i remember, that's what i noticed, that everyone remembers the same things differently, when i was working on memoirs about perestroika magazine. i was faced with the fact that the same people remember different things differently, that is , the same people, i mean, of the same age, the same social group, colleagues who worked together, and we are not talking about let’s say about some, well, relatively speaking, selfish moments, no, some completely insignificant moments, well, like the fact that
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it was cloudy that day or, someone says, no, it was sunny that day. it was wonderful weather, or there, this table, it was made made of oak, not ash, well, relatively speaking , that is, some things are remembered completely differently, i want to emphasize again, i will talk about what i remember and how i remember, so bribes with food, actually , when i sat down in this chair now, i thought that i would have a thesis that the end of times came when this phenomenon, like bribes and milking, actually disappeared from my profession, only now i realized that in fact not, they are a little different now you...
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in general you can’t make accusations without solid evidence and grounds, that it’s like paste from a tube, it’s impossible to turn back, you can slander a person , and then how to correct this reputation, in general , very carefully, because the topic was very dark, although... in the newspaper in the issue with this publication there was this stick of servil and a bottle of cognac, in fact this is gratitude,
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a gift, but my colleagues said that we congratulate you on your first bribes, in fact , there was a shortage in the soviet union, a shortage of absolutely everything, including food, tangerines appeared, for example, only for the new year, bananas. and pineapples, some people simply tried it once, twice, three times in their lives, there were such formats as trips to moscow for food, for sausage, there entire trains went to the provinces, people came to buy delicacies and delicacies, there was even such an anecdote, what will we build when? communism, everyone will have their own private jet, and why is it needed, just imagine, they found out that... in kaluga they threw out a balyk there, you flew there and did some shopping, bought 10 cans, this is how it looked, that is
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there was literally a shortage of everything, including food, so donations before this were a very common format, namely in the form of corruption, i remember one episode, this is also from my journalistic biography, when i wrote about the so -called sochi-krasnodar case, this is the case of sergei medunova, well... the investigator is like that this was called the case of sergei medunov, because he headed the krasnodar region and was one of the suspects and accused later, and so there he drew attention to a number of very interesting episodes, some very clever georgian, he came up with this format of a bribe, that is, he he brought a basket of offerings as if from his garden, so to speak, his farm, well, these were seasonal things, there were strawberries, gooseberries, honey, churchkhela with pomegranate juice, and as if he had bought something somewhere, that's simple his wife collected a bribe for his brother, that is
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, the person who accepted it, it was, well, it would be easier to measure it, well, because well, this is not a bribe, so a man was coming from the house, so he grabbed it there for those gods that we don’t well, he has these raspberry bushes there or he would have collected strawberry plantations, that is , perhaps one of those whom he gave gifts. with these gifts they actually understood the essence of what was happening, but in a certain sense the conscience was read, especially since this, again, was not arranged in the form of a classic bribe, which i brought you this basket here, and the cost of such a basket, by the way, was very decent, it was commensurate with the monthly salary of a soviet employee, at that stage, it was the eighties, early eighties, in the seventy-ninth year there was a very loud noise, so called... the fishery case about abuse, theft and corruption in the fishing industry, the director of the ocean store, who was selling
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seafood, was detained in sochi. and there were also bribes involved, including caviar, all sorts of sturgeon, it was very very widespread, and there were a lot of such episodes, now, of course, when we know about some very large-scale corruption schemes, about bribes that are given there almost in islands, and they are measured there. billions , if we take in rubles, then of course, these episodes are funny, but i always say that what is important here is not the volume of the bribe, the very fact that if a person accepted a melon as a gift, like yuri mikhailovich churbanov, galina leonidovna brezhneva’s husband and son-in-law general secretary leonid lich brezhny, and there
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they brought him this melon and... he waved it there some kind of appointment document, then it’s clear that it doesn’t seem to be a bribe, but in fact , legally, yes, it was exactly a bribe, because he received a donation, no matter what size, as far as i know, now, let’s say, employees, all gifts that cost more than 3,000 rubles, they must hand them over to some kind of storage facility, because it is considered indecent to take some kind of gift that costs... then there were no such norms in the soviet union, but there were other norms that were absolutely amazing, i remember my business trip was very long, about a month and a half, in my opinion, i went to central asia, to uzbekistan, where at that time the largest investigative team in the entire history of the soviet union, the investigative team of the ussr prosecutor general's office, which
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so i don’t know how it is in other republics, but in uzbegestan there was a clear tax, it cost 5000 rubles, that’s a lot, but it ’s just a lot, a car cost 500 rubles, that is, it’s like there are 100 cars, like a park, that is well, there were salaries, let’s say in my moscow komsomol members there were so-called half-time, because the rate was 130 rubles, that is, i get... 65 rubles a month. then i moved to the central committee for youth. change log from this shift i just went to central asia on a business trip. and there my salary was 150 rubles. well , it was considered very, very good. so, here are 150 rubles and 150. or 5000 500 rubles. that is , you had to work all your life to get it. there were a lot of bribes.
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it was possible to hide this product, and the can of caviar itself was an excellent bribe, especially when it came to relationships with foreign partners. this is a podcast chronicling the end of times, i’m evgeniy dodolev, and today we remember how in the soviet union they gave bribes with food. in the early eighties.
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to neutralize grishin’s ambitions, the ambitions of his task were somehow grishin’s. in any case, there was such a version, including in the western press. my a familiar western colleague, george krymsky, who, as far as i remember, was a representative. here in moscow , at the end of the eighties, he wrote an obituary, then every 3-4 months, once every six months, he simply did what is called an update, that is, everyone
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understood that sooner or later leonid ilyevich brezhnev would not be with us, the end of times would come , many, by the way, i remember, even among my fellow journalists, they cried. brezhnev, not mourning a beloved statesman there, but i understand that some shocks await the country there, they will not immediately they came, in general , brezhnev left in the eighty-second year , gorbachev came in the eighty-fifth year, glasnost and perestroika began, but for me, the fact that the end of times had come, this became a very indicator that i was in the eighty-fifth year. .. managed to get a job at the newspaper moskovsky-komsomolets with a journalist , that is, to get this id, because i was not a komsomol member, and my biography just turned out that way that i was expelled from the pioneers, from the pioneer organization, and
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this was at a ceremonial there was a ruler the forest republic was also gathered in the pioneer camp; this camp, in my opinion, was also part of the structure. lksm, because my dad worked as a correspondent for komsomolskaya pravda, which was the organ of the central committee of the komsomol, so i was caught smoking partogaz, there were such cuban cigarettes, very cathedral, and i was expelled from the ceremonial assembly, in the morning they collected the lineup, put a tie on me, which i did not wear a pioneer tie, well, because it was meant that already in the senior detachments it was somehow not a camelpho, that is, it meaning that there were little kids there, in short, they put a tie on me, not mine, because i didn’t have one of my own, and they solemnly took it off there to the beat of drums, they said some words about how i’m not worthy, and they just laid down
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a program for me that i would never be a komsomol member, i decided that well, that’s how it will be, screw you, i will never be a komsomol member, i didn’t join the komsomol, and so i say that the end of times in my opinion has come, i realized it when my documents were accepted and i became an employee of the mgk body, mk, in the komsomol, as the newspaper moskovsky komsomolets was then called, and before that, not being a komsomolets member, i couldn’t get into the educational institution i wanted to study at for any bribe, for any cognac or for any sausages, i was carried away a mathematician , i saw myself... a future as a mathematician and dreamed of studying at the faculty of mechanics and mathematics at moscow state university, they simply did not accept my documents there then, they simply said that since i was not a komsomol member, i could not study at the most prestigious school in the country,
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