so i’ll even ask you a question: are they for children or not? of course, but you also need to remember that fairy tales and tales, epics, beliefs, are genre works from fairy tales of a completely different level, of course, this is a kind of struggle between good and evil, where good necessarily wins in the end, and this is typical for fairy tales , in principle, for saying, for bellina, for belief, for mythology.

or peredelkino mcd which is two or three, it’s all a joke, peredelkino station, peredelkino station, yes, every year in winter, we just address this from a professional point of view vision and at the same time we are doing an event for children, that is, we also share inside the event such a children’s side of adventure , a little other people are doing something for children, this is some kind of we are creating such a fairy-tale space based on a certain theme, just 4 years ago. nikita petrov spoke at our first conference of storytellers, and we dedicated it to the hero’s path, and it was just such an opportunity for children to write fairy tales, adults and serious storytellers really understood what this the hero's path, according to what laws a fairy tale is built , a children's fairy tale, an adult fairy tale, how urban myths are born, how they come into some kind of fairy-tale narrative , and so on, and 2 years ago, for example, we...

already give space and they pull out some kind of folklore motifs in well, in audio plays, conditionally in travel, just in a children's play, so this process and this is 4 years ago, it happens every year, every year we repeat the conference of storytellers in the winter before the new year, this is just now just finished, nothing we'll wait, we'll wait.

in general, bozhov is the mistress of the copper mountain, this is a malachite box, well, these phrases are known, here it is a malacht box, these phrases are known even to those who may not remember that this is bozhov, danilo the master, danilo the master, of course, yes, a stone flower and so on, stone flower , right, yes, thank you post-folklore based on these, this is post-folklore, yes, we may not remember, by the way, which is correct, folklore or folklore, folklore, folklore, but i’ll try to remember, i’m speaking through... well well, i remind you that here is dmitry bak and a literary podcast, let them not talk, let them read, we continue our conversation about pavel bozhov and not only about him, which means we talked about collections, well, indeed this is a very powerful tradition in russia, this is peter vasilyevich kereevsky, for example, yes, a collection of songs , red, in four volumes, i constantly remind our interlocutors on the other side of the screen or headphones that we are talking

primarily about the time when there were no electronic media, and it was always possible remember what color the book is and what thickness, the student cannot always answer, but what is it? there was an article or a monograph, i don’t know, he can’t find it out from anywhere, the collection of pyotr vasilyevich kirievsky was not very thick, but large format, already published in soviet times, in four red volumes, good, good, well, there were fairy tales by alexander nikolaevich afanasyev, yes, that is, the same principle of collecting, expeditions, pushkin’s fairy tales, of course, also in general, this next question, right, right, not exactly the same principle, yes, that is.

this is a good quote, to be honest, i think that this is also folklore, yes, when the grim brothers took a village fairy tale, like a village girl, and combed her hair in order to show it to high society, removing designs that somehow did not correspond to these taste, then later it pestered me in a different form, but in reality, on the contrary, not authentic, but in such a smooth way, almost authentic, but smoothed, and you are on expeditions, i, too, well, i kind of observed it, i’ve never been on expeditions, but but... still the current ones collectors of folklore, they strive for authenticity, to record dialects, to write down phonetic features, but this is possible, of course, in the laboratory of folklore in our laboratory in franhixi in the russian state university for humanities, you can directly read and listen to understand how modern people speak, well,

the inhabitants of the russian north in particular, what daria was talking about, well, these are very beautiful , uh-huh, well, great, let’s now use this basis, whose anniversary is 145 years since his birth and how he worked here is a different context, because well, it’s a literary fairy tale is also a fairly common phenomenon, and even a tale, a tale about the tula oblique lefty and the steel blade at liskovo, there are the words skaz, although probably in a different sense, how did bazhov work? bazhov was one of those people who combine both... that is, he really knew first-hand the life and individual stories that circulated

among the mining workers, as they call it, it is clear that this is mythology on the one hand, when it is dangerous the work is difficult, yes, it gives rise to a kind of - some kind of defenders of cartridges, or vice versa, character mediators between the world chronic factory work, including , yes, it is clear that work related to the extraction of stones, but it is always associated with the risk of unexpected death, sometimes with illnesses and so on, and a patron, a guardian, a mediator character was needed, yes, which may be fictitious or born in the mythological among these people, which allows us to somehow bring this story into balance, that is, we are good.

collected them concentratedly, and then he did not follow the fairy-tale model, not vladimir’s model propp, magical, but he puts it together in a unique way, so that there really is a struggle between good and evil, so that there is some idea of ​​this fabulous mythological reality that he romanticizes, and by putting the bricks in a different way, he creates a very specific genre, yes, which is called tale, well, in the mouth of nikita bozhov is like that, although... about three heads, conditional, yes, in three hypostases, let’s say, softer, but still , first of all, he is like that, a practitioner, yes, who has a model and how- then composes, seemed to be from the authorship, yes, i’m hiding behind

the figure of the narrator, and well, in general , it’s curious here, the most interesting question for me personally, it seems to me, is what incredible popularity of these fairy tales began after. after the thirty-sixth year, when they appeared and in general they were written in the thirty-sixth year in a very difficult time, and for bozhov, who was expelled from the party , that moment was generally in a precarious position, but

my grandfather now has an incredible interest in this and we see it in tv series, we see it in movies, that’s where it all comes from it turns out that there is apparently a moment when, again, these are some other defenders that are needed, difficult times are needed, some supports are needed, well, indeed, in the thirties there was a struggle against local history, we remember this, which after the twenties, when he first appeared, in the twenties, of course, sigurtotovich schmidt was ours. the legendary teacher of the russian state university for humanities, not only talked a lot about this, local history

was considered so harmful because it works for mysticism, firstly, secondly, for the regionalization of the country, and so on and so forth further, therefore, it was a problem, is it possible to do this, these are all bourgeois things, and the grim brothers were not mentioned by chance, we understand that in general interest in folklore in the 19th century arose at the beginning of the 19th century... romanticism, as a movement towards the roots, to the foundations of the nation. the word to igorevi's regiment on the one hand is like our national epic, on the other hand kireyevsky's songs. i'm dmitry bak, we are now having another episode of the podcast, let them not talk, let them read. and we are talking with nikita petrov and daria peglova about pavel petrovich bozhov. yes. well, i think that it's time to move on to the author's section, ours. regular interlocutors know that in the middle of our program there is

a presenter’s section, and i do one of three, either i read a poem and somehow analyze it, or i read some quote from the classics, or i just show an old book from my sometimes peredelkino library, but today the book in my hands is not old, it’s one of bozhev’s modern editions, and of course it’s not lyrics, it’s sata from the classics. i'll try to do a very risky thing now, in such an abbreviated form variant, draft version, read the tale , one of the tales, it’s called the mountain master, katya danilova is a bride, she remains unmarried, two or three years have passed since danilo got lost, she’s completely out of her bride’s time, in her 20s years in our opinion, according to the factory overstuffing, it is considered that guys like this are rarely matched, widowers are more likely to do so, here’s what...

that’s the main, the main story here, the russian is absolutely right, in this text, this is that any profession, yes, including a risky one, it pulls behind it a whole layer of good archetypal ideas, a real master, someone is behind him, this does not come from the world of people, but from somewhere in that mysterious world you can learn, but you still need to receive some kind of gift, of course, well,

we already mentioned navales, it’s very valuable that - nikita says that every profession has a secret, any teacher, and a pilot, and a curator of cultural professions, probably yes, yes, but nevertheless, it was the work associated with underground ore mining that was held in very high esteem in german romanticism, yes, this is exactly the story, ore, the word ore itself means, by the way, blood , ore, red, this is what needs to be snatched from... nature, as it were, yes, literally the blood of the earth, the blood of the earth, yes, behind this, of course, there are some kind of guardians, yes, it could be miniatures, or gnomes, but in the german world, the mistress of the copper mountain, of course, for example, there behind the money in the traditional russian picture of the world there were mythological characters like leshev or the same robbers, yes, also quite historical, people far from us, these

secret forces once laid the same treasure, and you need to get it. stones, specifically the urals, this region, even for those who have never been there, is associated with such a combination of very different things, on the one hand practical, business, yes, that is , the demidov plant, metal mining, and still this you can feel yekaterinburg and

chelyabinsk - these are industrial centers, on the one hand this is such industrialization. here it turns out that way, well, the rossip of these stones, yes, indeed, this is the wealth of the urals, by the way, and individual word marks, yes, that bozhov includes there, which are like these very he frames the stones, and with his tales , and you know what else came to my mind, excuse me, i’m a little back, it’s not surprising that a collection was found at the dimidovs’ factory, a manuscript by kirsh danilov, a russian

poem, it turns out that this is creativity, on the one hand, yes, what we now call folklore. there is some kind of constant work, yes, quite difficult, to tear out from the depths of something semi-precious, precious, in order to bring it to people, they walk as if side by side, that is interesting, very important, well, kirsha danilov - these are pancakes, yes, these are ancient russian poems, there are not only epics, there are some other genre texts from komoroshina, such funny jokes, and even small lyrical inserts, elements, well, maybe you will remember this kirsha danilov, kireevsky, this...

metal arcs were invented by alexey dushkin, a great, wonderful architect, including an underground one, kropotkinskaya, novoslobodskaya, also his handiwork, but the mayakovskaya metro station mayakovskaya is just the personification of god, semi-precious, semi-precious, and these rhodonite beautiful things, there are no stories based on god’s tales in the subway, although it’s really surprising how many there are. stones were brought from the urals, so i’m suggesting a theme for new stations, yes, well, the metro has its own mythology, metro 2, metro 3 and so on, there are even novels on this topic, that is, everything connected with the underground. the world is mysterious, everything connected with a jewel is mysterious, but if this jewel still needs to be cut, how katya sat down at the machine, not knowing how to do anything, remember

boriska's scene in the film by andrei rublev, andrei tarkovsky, where young nikolai burlyaev says that his father, the father did not tell him the secret of how to cast a bell, how to find clay, this amazing story builds a lot on...

what they really say there will not become available to anyone until you work there within this group, that is, we are trying to do a forbidden thing, we are trying to unravel the mystery, yes, that is,

in fact, this cannot be repeated, why because pavel petrovich bazhov is not all out of nowhere he gave birth to this, precisely on such a comb, and he scooped up meanings that, in general , no one before him thought could be splashed out beyond the boundaries of the corporation.

i remember, but for the first time this story actually somehow comes out in a completely different literary circle, already from such a local one, and again here is nature and culture and creativity and investment and economics, well , bazhov really had such quite serious popularity already in quiet times at the end of his life he gained such all-union popularity, here are a few of these illustrations we see... it among children, we talked about how this is a children's story, this is a drawing of bazhs at a meeting with readers, that is, it really has gained wide popularity, now, perhaps, in these times, which again force us to look some kind of support, here i must say about the connection , by the way, between ibazhov and peredelkin, i ca n’t help but say, naturally, because yes, because the permian didn’t live in the alteration,

who and ... advice and even on the construction of a house, which that means he sent it to permik, he has a lot there are a lot of addressees, well, this is really a gigantic body of a completely different god, and it’s interesting to read, well, we’ll just end by mentioning that there is olga slavnikova with roman 2017, there is alexey ivanov, but olga slavnikova simply has hitters who mine these same stones in the nineties, in a word, this tradition lives on, the creativity of god. goes back to

the immemorial times of romanticism and further, further, further into the past, when folklore stories and works were formed, there are at the same time, next to us, literally next to us, all this continues, like literature, like art, like life, i am very grateful to you for this conversation, i think that it was useful to all of us, i thank darya beglova , the head of the creative house in the peredelkina writers' village, i sincerely thank nikita petrov, the head of the theoretical laboratory of folklore in ronkhix, thank you dasha, thank you nikita, see you, all the best, to you, our dear interlocutors, i say my usual phrase, which i love very much , read with pleasure, dear friends.

hello, this is the easy money podcast, i’m its host, mikhail khanov. today we have a wonderful guest anton suborov, economist, rector of the russian economic school. hello, antonevich, hello, mikhail. quite recently, on our podcast, we discussed the topic of behavioral inflation, when a group of people or a whole. the class of people influences the prices of certain goods or groups of goods, but probably with you, as a professional, as a professor, it is right to talk about the fundamental values ​​and the premises of this term in general, like behavioral economics, i would still like to analyze this concept as a whole, what it is, where it came from and how it affects a person, especially now when the role, as we hear constantly from many

sources ... it is behavioral economics that is growing, is it so? it seems to me so. behavioral economics arose as an antithesis to classical, neoclassical economics, which is based on the postulate of rational human behavior. what does rational behavior mean from the point of view economists? well, first of all, this is the assumption that a person knows what is best for him and what is worse, the second assumption is that a person makes a reasonable choice and... this is such a methodological assumption in classical economics, classical economics - a very mathematized discipline, it is structured as a set of mathematical models, which, based on the assumption that rational economic agents act, are not necessarily people, they can also be firms that seek to obtain maximum profit, economics studies their

interaction, theoretical models. make predictions, and empirical work evaluates how successful these models are, how much they correspond to reality, and then unsuccessful models are rejected, and successful ones are developed.

behavioral economics, the sides that human behavior is rational, yes, because when they say that the market is rational, and the market will always bring it into line, well, let’s put it simply for our audience, let’s say the balance of supply and demand, but when, if you think about it, start to decompose, yes, this is a general statement that, in fact, why the market is rational, we come to the thesis that individual people are rational, a group of people, institutions, companies, and so on, the question:

was conducted in america in sweden, it turned out that on average 80% drivers responded that they drive better than most other drivers, it is clear that... such a situation is impossible, most people who have a high level of intelligence have high intelligence, they doubt what they say, the correctness of their ratings, and most importantly, they believe that people around them are at the same level, therefore

they are extremely cautious in their judgments, they tend to underestimate their expertise, and people with a low level of development with little educational knowledge, on the contrary, are very confident in themselves , they do their best, you know, never argue. with an idiot, and you will quickly fall to his level, yes, then he will beat you up through experience, the same thing here, they probably asked the average masses, they said, yes, of course we introduce very well, as i have a smart interlocutor, i bet there is another study in which they asked professors, who on average are generally not stupid people, how well you lecture, and well, what do you think, what percentage said that they also lecture better, than most colleagues, well , 50 percent, no more than 96, oh well, that is...

it’s arranged, but this also leads to the fact that in many situations we really overestimate our chances, here’s a very recent job there in 2020, studying managers. hypermarket chains in germany, who received very detailed feedback regarding their successes, their compensation was tied to the success of their departments, accordingly, they were generally interested in having an objective picture,

working on what they are not doing very well, improving the quality of work, however less, despite such strong incentives, they demonstrated a persistent overestimation of their future results, when they were asked about the forecast for the next period, they are all... that inside analysts, that is, those analysts who are inside companies, world companies that are included in indices , the largest, including russian companies, when there is a quarterly conference call, a call with investors, at which analysts give forecasts for the next quarter, for six months, for a year, now and there after the first quarter, they are counted companies understate almost everything, because in the stock exchange world it is very unprofitable to show higher indicators, let's say...

what is the fact that people systematically deviate from rational behavior, well, when i talked about excessive self-confidence, this is rather a deviation in the picture of the world, but our picture of the world does not quite correspond, but closer to it, it has some rather systematic distortions, when if you take several people at random, they are very likely to have these distortions, similar examples - then yes, well, let me give you an example, if we talk about excessive self-confidence, this is such a motivated distortion, because... you want to think good about yourself, but there is this anchor effect, which is generally quite

mechanical, very similar to some visual illusions, the fact is that any information influences some of our decisions, judgments, even if it has nothing to do with it, but just appeared in front of us at the right moment, a classic experiment like this: we spun the roulette wheel, it stopped at the number 65 , participants in the experiment were asked the number of african countries that are members... that neither the roulette nor the ball

have anything to do with africa. this is an easy money podcast. today we are talking about behavioral economics and understanding this is quite complex the rector of the russian economic school, anton svorov, helps with the tool and model. understanding further about behavioral economics, what does behavioral economics study and who benefits from studying it more deeply. sellers, buyers, people themselves, learn about themselves, yes, marketers, here, who are the main, let’s say, customers, beneficiaries, that is, consumers of what is a product of behavioral economics, well , some behavior models, who, who the main consumer, it seems to me, everything, everything, everything, well, because on the one hand, if talking about marketers, then marketers can often say that we knew all this for a long time, so people arose who called themselves behavioral economists and formulated.

situations that influence

a person’s financial decisions, but it’s not without reason that now such a term is very popular -