with the houses that americans hook the viewer, i will do it honestly, then it will be fair to the viewer, i really want everyone to like it, but so that it’s mine, so that i don’t lie, don’t manipulate them, but so that i if i spoke honestly and everyone would love me, that’s why it turns out to be an auteur cinema, as a rule, the question is asked, but the russian director, spectator cinema has become a producer’s film in russia, the role of the spectator cinema director... well, is extremely large, but it’s as if he is not the most behind with rare exceptions, the initiator , he is invited to work, there is a script, this is a huge responsibility, well, no, as a rule, these are production developments, but returning to balabanov, and this is a great pity, because we suffer from the fact that from directors practically, well, very few of their own ideas come in.

probandits reveal some very important meanings for cinema, that’s all there, it makes it possible to raise the question of life and death in the literal sense of the word, there is a price for betrayal together, and so on and so forth, but the audience...

this is not interesting today, they don’t want it, well, balabanov has all this, but we can say that these films were made earlier, thanks to the fact that they were made by an outstanding director, they live now, can we say that brother is brother 2 is just an example of such a combination of auteur and spectator cinema, where it worked out perfectly, well, one might say that it borders on conditional, in general, all films made by real strong directors have their own. handwriting and language, even if these are like super-viewer films form, in terms of purpose, of course they are still author's, because they have at least a huge dose of this author's presence, all the same, author's cinema will either become an audience or not, i understand correctly, well, i repeat, this is such a conditional border, but nevertheless, let’s say a film about freaks and people, apparently remained an auteur film, although it’s great from a point of view.

but it should be like that, but just when after that the load 200 is removed, yes, then it seems to me that there is no need to consider it, listen, study, it seems to me , in general, i think that art should be anonymous, the producer is not a public figure, thank god, i’m the director, not very public, it’s just a controversial issue, of course , well, i think that she should being anonymous is an art, that’s how it is because we don’t know who created the fayom portraits there, they are getting worse,

watch every single film, and somehow, imagine that they don’t have one author, you won’t this, this thoughtfulness, how brother 2 is not like this this, well, yes, for a load of 20, it doesn’t interfere so much as it delights me when i think, a free person, but can one still say that of course the success of this film is largely explained by the main character, yes this was great happiness. well, of course, well, it would have been a different film and it’s not a fact that that is, well, it’s quite obvious that it wouldn’t have been like that, yes, yes, of course, seryozha, such an unusual character, and then we sat on the beach in a cafe, drank , i think it was beer, i don’t remember, it was during the day, it was sunny, it was a sunny day, i told them: “

let’s make a movie together, but there won’t be any money, he simply said, “come on!” that’s it, why did you say to make a movie together, what exactly did you mean? but because i didn’t take him as an artist, but as a person who , well, together with me, in fact, of course, it seems to me that bodrov’s secret is that even the most negative role he plays, well, positively, roughly speaking, yes and you begin to love this person, trust him, you fall under his charm, so just such a trick, this is art , this is something that cannot be separated, thank god for the composed elements, this is all together in it, this is an image, try to make it out, such a killer, from

whom you are numb with sympathy, some kind of empathy, from everything, from all of this, and this is the author’s statement, it all the more presupposes such, well, as if creating images absolutely. well, well, okay, how do you explain this? i don’t know, he probably didn’t get along somehow, nevertheless, in chemistry with the selectors of major festivals, but for him it was important for balabanov? well, he wanted it, yes , yes, it wasn’t important, well, he somehow wanted it, in a simple way,

he somehow appreciated this attention in his own way, despite the fact that... at the same time he didn’t value it at all , as if he was sitting, didn’t like going to any events, didn’t really like giving interviews, if a journalist, an interviewer managed to somehow come into contact with him, then he was ready, this was instant chemistry, again this, well, it seems to me, is an example of just such chemistry this film, which is called an afterword, and alexey balabanov an afterword, i think it really shows what the journalists were able to do. will feed you, let you spend the night , will be ready to talk for a long time, and talk about yourself, including things that seem somehow impartial from the point of view of others, and even strengthen and

emphasize them in order to further frame these wonderful people a little, that -somehow the energy disappears with age, and... there are people who make movies just out of thin air, and i’m out of myself, if he thought that a good person, then he... was as open with him as possible, friendly and so on, but this rarely happened, so yes, the merit of the authors is indisputable that they somehow found him, managed to charm him, get him to talk, i actually here, so i understand that

i, of course, we are also engaged as best we can, well, what is it called, memory, or something, balabanova, and i too... today, everyone who, with respect, with some... then, with some kind of respect, yes, he does similar work. we continue the conversation, this is the podcast life of the remarkable, our guest is the producer sergey selyanov. i must say that i practically didn’t know him, the only time he invited me to the premiere, not the premiere, but he was at this screening of the film morphine, yes, since i wrote a biography of bulgakov, then... the feelings when i i watched and it was made not only from this story, but also this film, because, well, let’s say, morphie in general is based on the notes of a young doctor bulgakovsky, in principle, notes of a young doctor from my point of

view, this book is a very bright, very joyful book, yes, this book is about how a person overcomes all the hardships and adversity life, this is a book about victory, not about defeat, so to speak, the book is more... lighter than dark - this is my perception, the film is so, well, creepy, and yet i really liked it, so i had this the feeling that this is not bulgakov, but this is balabanov. well, indeed, yes, this is a script by seryozha bodrova, but it was shot by seryozha bodrov based on

blugakov, but it was shot and meaningful in his own way, he is balanov, but it’s interesting that, in principle, he shot most of the films from his own scripts, but in some cases yes, he took other people’s scripts, and you had a relationship with all these things, well, that is , you told him i had a relationship, yes, after karmadon - he was very worried, yes. this is not the right word, he simply erased himself from life, he wanted to die, this is not a figure of speech in the case of balabanov, this is probably difficult for people to believe, but he really worried that he was somehow alive, he wanted to die , he would just be happy if he just died there in a day or two or three, but what about us, well, as soon as work, something maybe, something else, maybe something else, maybe, but we definitely don’t know how to do it. and he, of course, didn’t want to do anything, well , if that’s what we call a stream, well

, the script comes to the studio, i looked at them, including, first of all, from the point of view that lyosha, that is, he himself didn’t want to write any scripts, nothing, uh-huh, here ’s a blind man’s buff script, yes, i tell him, he says, let’s make a comedy, he read it, says, well, yes, so let’s play all the roles with very famous actors. that's it, yes, well, and yet it's the condition did not go away, well, in general, in a sense, it did not go away until the end of my life, but there was just such a period, just again, well, valery matsakanov sent me the script, it doesn’t hurt me, i read it, i say, but a melodrama for you, weak, that is, in different genres to work , yes, me too, i didn’t figure it out either, it’s just... well, yes, to some extent, maybe i thought something about it, i i don’t remember, i don’t

think, but the script is good, by the way, there is a certain percentage of the audience , probably not very small, who is considered balabanov’s best film , it doesn’t hurt me, because it’s a melodrama, because it’s a feeling, because it really doesn’t seem very similar to balabanov’s other films, as we’ve already discussed here, serezhin’s morpheus, that is, serezhin’s script. he, well, maybe this, this, i don’t like these speculations, but i started talking, i’ll say, perhaps it was part of this, like such a duty, to a friend, comrade, perhaps, it seems to me, a little bit of this there was present that that here is the script of sergei bodrov, here it is on the screen, here is another topic that has always attracted me to balabanov and even somehow intrigued me, and this is the yakut topic. in his work, in his destiny, yes, this film, the tragic story from the film with

the death of the actress and of course the film kachigar, yes, where this yakut theme sounds, and how it came about for him, why i have something to do with yaku too, it was before karmadon, that is , they lived and worked vigorously, came up with a lot, but nevertheless, well, always some kind of quality. siraszewski is a polish son who wrote a great work on yakutia, and

he was involved in yakutia as a scientist, and as a fiction writer, he also wrote several stories, and i gave it to lyosha, he said, look, it seems like an interesting thing, well, he read the fuse, as they say, really wanted to do it, and so the film kochigar was born, no, then balabanov, at the request of dmitriev , the head of the state fund, at the request , even he loved balabanov lyosha edited this one from the material that was made such a film, which in my opinion is still so separate

the meaning is artistic, but of course it’s not the whole film and... then these are echoes of the film kachigar, yes, of course, some kind of internal rhyme inside balabanov worked, there’s also a story of highak, yeah, at the very end, that was meant, yes, here is mish scriabin, mikhail scriabin, he was one of malabanov’s favorite actors, a yakut actor from the yakut theater, here they are in georgia 200, in kochagara the main role. here again, what to look for, some rational explanations, but since lyosha actually traveled, working as an assistant, to the director sverdlovsk film studio at that time, in its documentary department, he really traveled all this, both yakutia and the urals, of course, siberia, that’s all, that is,

for him it was not just some kind of exotic thing that suddenly hooked him, because he was not like that saw, did not hear, and so on. everything was very important for him to know about what, it seems like banal tourism, so everyone seems to need to know, for him it was important, by the way, probably for those who are interested, as a director, as a cinematographer, what he has practically nothing had been invented, nothing had come out of nowhere in even the good sense of the word, he simply could not write until he felt it all, walked through it with his feet, talked to it. and if we talk about the last film, i also want what to say about it, in the sense of what needs to be said about it, and what would you like to say about it, a film that is prophetic about itself, well, yes, well, well, this , when there is no point in talking about a movie at all, you can only watch it, that’s exactly what i think, that there is no point, at least for professional

people, art critics , film critics, film experts and so on, yes, but i don’t... not one, not the second, not the third, i am a producer and a viewer, here is a film, i get some kind of emotion from it, some kind of energy , something happens in me there, at least at the moment of viewing, but it’s good when after , yes, after tasting, the so-called, everything else, i try to preserve more the sensual than the rational in myself in that in particular, that’s why i haven’t gotten tired of making films since i was 14, i don’t get tired of communicating at all, i don’t get burnt out or anything.

prism began my, one might say, almost professional interest in history, thanks to these books, i actually chose a profession. the theme of the decembrists is, of course, interesting, thanks to the huge mythology that is associated with the decembrists. for example, i’ll just tell you that when i watch the film “star of captivating happiness,” it’s simply amazing how the authors managed to avoid a number of very interesting nuances. hello, you are watching

a historical podcast. russia and the west on the swing of history. pyotr romanov and sergei solovyov are with you. today we will talk about the decembrists of the decembrist movement in the decembrist uprising, the influence of this movement on the further history of russia. the topic is very interesting, because such a rich layer of mythology is associated with the history of decembrism. many people have the idea of ​​the cruel nicholas, the white fluffy decembrists. in general, this does not really correspond to history, as... not everything is always so black and white, and it is interesting that this myth did not arise from soviet times, although it is clear that in soviet times, well, we all know... these poems are about the decembrists they woke up hertzin, hertzon rang the bell, and so on, it went all the way to the bolsheviks, so for the bolsheviks, of course, the decembrists were, well

, distant, distant, but ancestors, relatives, in fact, this myth appeared quite quickly after the suppression of the uprising, first the myth appeared that the decembrists were crazy, because it was difficult for society to imagine that people would take mortal risks for the sake of... society was completely, well, somehow impermissible to talk about what i don’t know, pestel was speculating on soldiers’ with trousers, ants, the apostle kicked his

commander, rayleigh argued about the need to exterminate the royal family, everything somehow faded into the background, they didn’t talk about it, in general it was a closed topic, first of all it needs to be said about domestic uniqueness.

such an attempt after peter to generally reshape russia for the benefit of russia, because their goals were the most noble and indeed

none of them, unlike the previous participants in the coups, even thought about the fact that they would receive some kind of titles, ranks, money, positions, none of this happened, they really risked their careers, their destiny. therefore, later, when the investigation was going on, in fact , the same people dealt with them, absolutely, they sat in the same masonic lodges, they were at the same balls, courted the same ladies, they couldn’t lie, they believed it is indecent to lie, as a legacy they really spoke honestly what they thought, what they planned and so on, these were new people, the idea of ​​a military coup, this this is an idea... for the people, but without the people, yes, this is the idea of ​​both colonel rieg in spain, and the military revolution in naples, that is, this is what was happening in europe then, they

saw it all, learned from it, and of course, they are afraid of the new pugachevism, this is very important, they are like nobles, they were brought up on this, after pugachev’s french revolution, russian aristocrats began to teach their children crafts at the end of the 18th century, for example, the famous general ermolov, who, by the way, was in one from organizations. pre-december, well, essentially masonic organizations, the order of russian knights, he was a brilliant bookbinder, why? because his father, knowing full well that the french aristocrats later scattered across europe and simply begged, including in russia, wanted his son to have a profession in his hands in the event of a revolution in russia, they wanted to make a revolution, but without a revolution, in including seeing the bloody consequences of the revolution in france, how can i tell you, i’m not very sure that they wanted to make a revolution.

when he started or lieutenant colonel, now not i remember riego, and he started, in fact, an uprising in the provinces and for some time he was successful, that’s why, in general, there was a dispute between two positions, start in the capitals, or here is riego’s example, because he was for they were tempting because they were talking about a movement, so to speak, of soldiers, that is , soldiers were believed to be easier to control.

and this will ensure, so to speak, well, if not bloodlessness, then anemia - so to speak, of the decembrian uprising, there is a big question about where these people even came from factors that formed. here klyuchevsky called - the mood that was among the decembrists after the campaigns abroad was patriotic sorrow, so they saw the world of serfdom, which russia saved from the napoleonic dictatorship, and what in russia, in russia ... rakcheev, yes, with the rokcheevsky stick, which well, he really had sadian inclinations, what can i say, he did a lot of useful things for the russian artillery, over the peasants, in fact, he bullied the soldiers as best he could. in russia the military settlements, a monstrous idea, for the sake of which, yes , to unite soldiers with peasants and build peasants according to the soldiers’ rank at the same time, after which the peasants rebelled, alexander himself at one time said that i would rather line the road from chudovskoe with gallows to the first line of military settlements

than abandon this idea, carried out the idea of ​​arakcheev, but... you understand, one more point is important here, klyuchevsky also pays attention to it, and this is the influence of various ideas that penetrated under catherine, well, she did not encourage freemasonry, but it nevertheless came, this freethinking based on the french. for some, yes, well, for many leaders, freemasonry , well, let’s remember radishchey, disputes about whether he is a freemason or just a friend of the freemasons, so to speak, in any case, the journey to st. petersburg is dedicated to the cossack mason, his closest friend, the same thing happened, this here is the masonic influence to

a significant extent on the decembrists. then freethinking came even under catherine, many of the fathers had already become freethinkers, but such abstract freethinkers, they generally in principle, they were freethinkers, which did not prevent christians from flogging the stables, no, this did not interfere, this is another inclusion, this freethinking on the one hand, freemasonry appeared, unlike the fathers, freethinkers appeared.

from a more abstract, more masonic union of salvation into a more secret society, similar to that society that strived for the unification of italy. for example, yes, the union of welfare, we often forget about the military society, but it was such a filter, yes, then, accordingly, after the dissolution of the union of welfare, about which the authorities learned that this was the creation of a northern society that continued the traditions of southern society, the december movement, on the one hand, it was losing some people, because the future muravyov, for example, who was later called the hangman, and during the suppression of criticism, yes, during the suppression of the polish uprising 1863, he was also a member of the decembrist societies, the future one of the ideologists of the reign of nicholas igrafuvarov was close to the decembrist society, and so on, but society is getting rid of these people and is gradually radicalizing, in a union of prosperity, also in in part in accordance with the ideals of enlightenment

, the main directions of activity were philanthropy, education, justice and social order, in which people had to engage in setting an example, because many of the decembrists are trying to free the peasants, the famous example with ivan yakushkin is very... characteristic of subsequent history, just very revealing: yakushkin suggested to the peasants, as in europe, which means that the land remains with the landowner, you work on it, receive payment, accordingly, for the work or you rent, the rental price is not high, the peasants scratched their heads and said: no, father, it’s better to do it the old way, we are yours, and the land is ours, the russian peasant has freedom without land, this will later come to fruition during the abolition of the crippling right, doesn’t realize, another example , ivan pushchin, pushkin’s friend, we... my friend, my invaluable friend, also by his example, he having a career, uh, gives up this career and goes to become a judge, what is a judge at the beginning of the 19th century, this ugh and grind, this is a vile profession, this is by definition

corrupt, bribe-taker, burning and so on , and he, accordingly, shows that justice can be the work of a nobleman, sets an example for others, in the editorship of the decembrists , plans for regicide arise, including, but also peculiar, yakushkin: suggested what to do, yes , imitate a duel, shoot the tsar, shoot yourself with two pistols, in this regard, a theory arises that the st. petersburg historian and writer yakov gordin, he speaks of the decembrists as a rebellion of reformers, among people who wanted reform and wanted, accordingly, before of all, to demonstrate to the authorities the need for these very reforms, that’s how you approach this point of view, this is a certain border between the past and the future, of course, there was a lot of talk about the constitution , everything is the same in the abolition of serfdom, but also then the most important issue was being resolved, the goal means, say, failure on senate square, hesitation, this is the goal of the means, why pestel

stopped leading southern society, because he was the first person who realized that, well, he decided this way, and that a revolution cannot be done with white gloves. were inactive, or supported the rebels , the question was discussed whether to take money from the regimental treasury at all or not to take it for this matter, someone there, i don’t remember now, said, yes, i ’d rather sell all the dresses to my wife, but i won’t

get into the regimental treasury, others believed that they could take it, then the apostle, so to speak, gave ants, thus bribing his soldiers of the chernigov regiment, and there they began in general... decembrism, this is a historical podcast of russia and the west on the swing of history. pester intended to throw himself at the feet of alexander i, to imagine the whole plan and thereby push him towards reform. yes, not only

pestel had such thoughts. and, well, as a matter of fact, alexander i himself knew very well about these plans and did not interfere, which later greatly surprised his brother nicholas i, who, while reading. various documentation, and denunciations, and the denunciations were of such a plan, now i don’t remember the name exactly, but the denunciation was something like this, which means a report that one of the... officers reported that another officer was participating in a conspiracy to overthrow the emperor there, and alexander’s resolution i on this document, punish the one who informed, and do nothing to this, so i imagine nicholas i read this and was shocked, then nicholas i had already come to the system of political investigation, because he understood that...

ownership of land is something , what was really ripe at this moment, in general,

the views naturally converged, but nevertheless, i think it is fair to assume that if in the southern society such republican views dominated, then in the northern they more often talked about a constitutional monarchy or were looking for some sub-options, rayleigh there recalled the united states of america, and at the same time some kind of emperor was preserved, well, in general, some rather... exotic schemes sometimes arose, i think that the poet and publicist merezhkovsky was right when he said that this too early foreshadowing, too slow spring, russia was not very ready, it’s not just the fear that fell on russia there after the collapse, so to speak, of the uprising, but no, there in general. a small group of people

conceived all this and dreamed about it, and so after the failure, so to speak, of this uprising , i don’t know, the same pushkin wanted to collaborate with nicholas i, to publish, yes, he proposed in general, but at the same time he said, judging by the legend, yes, we understand that no one kept a protocol here, that in the event of an uprising, if he were in st. petersburg, he would be in the same square, he has this famous drawing, five hanged, right?

they were, i say, sitting in the same masonic lodges, at the same balls, spinning around, that’s how they hesitated then, and then they shot, but nicholas i decided to shoot, he decided shoot, and from cannons, as you know, artillery is the argument of kings, in fact , according to estimates, about 1,300 people died, well, historians again argue about the number of deaths. this is no, these are not mostly soldiers

, onlookers who, as usual, came to watch, well, they stand there in a line shouting long live konstantin and his wife, the constitution, the soldiers counted, and they were told, my god, konstantin was married to a bullet, but what is his name , my god, maybe a constitution, they didn’t really understand what a constitution was, soldier used in the dark, but in general.

formally, in this form , it was dressed, as it were, like the gospel and so on, but it included the ideas of rousseau, that all people are born equal, free, and so on, and the king stole this freedom, therefore it is quite natural, fair and correct to rebel

against king well, the regimental priest there read this catechism to the soldier. they did not react to this in any way, although apostle muravyov hoped that this is the church language, it would be more understandable to the common person, as a result, then it was necessary, in fact, to say the same thing that the northerners said about constantine, the distribution of regimental money began, widespread drunkenness began, and the officers tried to establish discipline, they tried, but it didn’t work, the russian... the soldier in this case, after all, yes the disciplinary moment was gone, but on the one hand, on the other hand, faith in the good king was preserved, this is very important to understand, it will persist for a long time until the 20th century, but why did it not succeed as at least some minimum of discipline, it all started with an ugly

absolutely scenes, but the southern uprising began a little later, so an order came. the conclusion about how many wounds there were, what kind, in what places were inflicted, the same muravyov-apostle, so to speak, inspired by the revolutionary events that had begun, jumped out and joined in, and this was all in front of the soldiers, so the muravyov apostle was second in rank after this regiment commander,

but these officers, they became rebels in the eyes of the soldiers, so in fact , this desire arose, so to speak. to attempt it was not possible to win them over to one’s side and discipline them at the expense of this orthodox catechism, so to speak, under the slogan of some ideological revolutionary ones, and apostle muravyov, in principle , ended, his activity ended as classically perfect as the story with pugacho and razin surrendered theirs, yes, this is historical... podcast russia west on the swing of history, today we are talking about the decembrists and the decembrist uprising. the most important thing about this problem was that they were not psychologically prepared for what they were preparing theoretically, yes, that they, of course, actually, it was their behavior that showed the legacy, who behaved?