well, maybe in the diamonds on the fingers, of course, it was inferior, or in the ears of this , well, there are family jewels, yes, but not in the payment , it was definitely not inferior at all, that is, it was absolutely at the highest world level, but how did vyacheslav zaitsev treat his colleagues in the shop , to designers in other countries, was there anything you discussed? we no, we certainly didn’t discuss it, because he also didn’t communicate with them quite much, he didn’t have that opportunity, the opportunities appeared when he met... and corden loved him very much, and i know that he directly admired him creativity, not only because he is a person with taste and a really good designer, but also because he is the kind of person who has always been present in all his collections, well, let’s say, the russian spirit, this authenticity, it was not directly, but it was always present, this is what i think i admired about him, because a man who... did not betray himself, his roots,

you know, his own, and therefore he was not like others, because many designers sew beautiful clothes, there's an expensive one and so on, well - that's all approximately there a trend, some kind of trend of the year, yes, and it ’s all more or less similar, it ’s built around this, yes, my path is in fashion, and although many consider me a student, thank zaitsev, i will say that i never... i studied with slava zaitsev directly, but always, as if he was my professional reference point, or something, because i, my first place of work was the fashion center of russia, where zaitsev also worked a little, then he worked in the all-union fashion house, where i was on an internship, in practice, and then on my professional journey, my first a business trip to...

a mespress course, to which zaitsev said with his characteristic harshness, at such moments, as i later realized, tell vikochka that it’s not a big deal to sit on all the chairs with one butt, but i must say that i’m still multitasking and multi -station did not cancel out, but this lesson, when i basically couldn’t participate in the competition because i chose... this is a more enjoyable activity, it’s in front of me, in general, it’s necessary, well, you were a young designer, you need was to develop in different directions, well, yes, in fact, i closed this gestalt in a special way that my daughter could not even imagine, but as a young designer, having come from the royal academy of antwerp, from which she graduated, she went to this competition.

fashion, as we say, today there is a woman with a bright or a man with a pronounced individuality, as if a personal renaissance is beginning. tatiana, in 1991, i think, yes, you hosted the pierre cardin show in moscow, but at that time we still didn’t have fashion in the country, right? there has always been fashion, fashion i was always in the soviet union, although yes , i remember, my mother also sewed some incredibly fashionable things from magazines, and i must tell you that when i went down to...

and what was inspired by, by the way, this is how they followed behind fashion , where the observation came from, there were fashion magazines, firstly, and secondly, there was television, there were artists who were followed, well, pop stars, they still follow them, although of course i don’t advise pop stars to follow them, because many women who have no taste or not enough of it, they begin to copy pop stars, you know, there are black nails , some half-naked dresses, but this, but stage clothes... yes, yes, well, for a nightclub, if only, yes, let's go back a little, when he, he was very a good businessman, and he was the first who wanted to open his own store in moscow, this was after he had already arrived with a show, or before that, we met at the show,

but he did this show, of course, it was simply impossible to go there to get there, there were two of them, and i was in the pay then of valentin yudashnikin, who would not yet... no one named him at all i didn’t know, but he worked in an atelier , also located on kuznetsky most, and there were amazing workers who knew how to make some masterpieces, embroidery, well, just something incredible, he mixed a dress from our ordinary crepe, and the color was so incomprehensible, because that there were no colors either, either blue or purple, it’s not clear what, but the whole top was embroidered with small pieces, scraps of some shiny fabrics, poets, beads, pieces of fur, well, it was some kind of masterpiece, well it seems to me that this is exactly what the skill of great designers lies in the fact that they can create a masterpiece from any seemingly insignificant and nondescript fabric, in general, in this dress i led this cardin show, he asked me who did it,

where did you get this dress from, well, like , there’s nothing to wear in your country, i said, it’s made in our country, i called it dashkina, he, of course , didn’t know who he was, but he was impressed, because after that he gave me... two suits, suits were, in my opinion, quite modest, that is, it was a skirt and a jacket, well, not just a jacket, that’s how a man ’s jacket is, yes, it was a jacket , shoulders were coming into fashion, it had such set shoulders, very fitted, instead of the usual lapels like yours, it had a slightly standing rounded collar , going into the lapels, a very narrow skirt, along which vostankina, in order to get to the studio, i needed these 10 minutes earlier.

that many men, despite the fact that they really wanted to sleep at 12 o’clock, to go to work by 8, they still watched me read the program schedule for tomorrow, only because that at that moment i asked the operator to move further away, and you could see a piece of the knee, well, this is probably the quarter , of course, i was deprived once again, and they called me on the carpet and asked what you allow yourself, we are an ideological organization, what can we do? i... said, well, yes, we must move forward, so we receive thousands of letters there, all the viewers want to see what fashion is now, so i wanted to show the audience that this is the fashion now, and that my skirt really was almost copper, but it is so narrow that when you sat, it automatically rose, yes, but in reality it was not

me, no, in no case, but my leadership said, precisely because we are an ideological organization, we should, on the contrary, lag behind fashion, in general we were. so my desire to show the audience what we have that i always received for fashion in this way, well, we really were a reference point for the audience. and what are the most important points that you learned while working, coming into contact, communicating with vyacheslav mikhailovich? well, i know for myself that i have to come to work in the morning, well, it’s impossible, if you live by this, to wake up there. to two and smelling a rose there to come to work, well, no, this is work, fashion, hard, well, it’s hard, yes, very hard and energy-consuming work, and just then, when i myself gave several introductory lectures, when vyacheslav mikhailovich

invited me already in the laboratory as teachers, i always told students that if you think that it’s just hanging around among beautiful fabrics, this is not it at all. that is, if you have such ideas, you better not come here, this is very difficult, energy-consuming, but if we return to the question, then it seems to me that vyacheslav mikhailovich, first of all... taught me to think, this is very important in the profession, in any profession, here, in ours, because the thought, it materializes on paper, and then it should be embodied in something, now, this is your initial thought, for what, why, why, because paper will endure everything, but then, what will happen to this sketch, then, what will happen to this uh , a thing, and so on, that is, here, of course, vyacheslav mikhailovich is very painstakingly ate into it, to this. i taught him for this, i am incredibly grateful to him, the first such professional competition was

the lamanova competition, this is where it all started for me, then there were several more competitions, and again i really came to my master, consulted, showed what things, he told me a lot, and then he began to invite me as a member of the jury to many, then it was right all over russia, it spread like a fan, that is, competitions for young fashion designers. and somehow that's all it grew, multiplied, and he and i went to kazan, sochi took place there every year. nastya , didn’t you have such communication outside of school where vyacheslav mikhailovich would open up in this way? well, too, only i only remember sochi, if not as a student teacher, that is, i also want to say once again that he remembered absolutely everyone, that i don’t know how it happened, if they have millions of students there, and - too we came for these velvet seasons, and there was this... theater with columns, i remember, i don’t know, i was going somewhere, i walk around him and suddenly bump into vyacheslav mikhailovich with yury muromtsev there, and

i say, oh, hello vyacheslav mikhailovich, and he says that there will be something in the evening, well, yes, there for now, vyacheslav mikhailovich, well, okay, i’ll come there, yes, well, who am i to him for him to tell me, and somehow it’s all just in some kind of tangle, and it also seems like you’re not for him, well, just another student, but he treats everyone like as if these were relatives, the student was his laboratory. what a huge life he has, how many of these students he has, and he knew to everyone that you you do there for a year, that is, he, then he recognizes you, he remembers your things, but i don’t know how it happened, maybe some kind of phenomenal memory or i don’t know, but tell me your first impression of vyacheslav mikhailovich, of course, he has rabbits all yours, and mine with one stone, here it is...

building a structure on one basis, and then there was such an enterprise, analytics of building a structure on one basis, look, you have a jacket on, yes, let’s assume we draw this jacket , then we will use this jacket as a basis and design for it, for example, cuffs, in some model there is a collar, in some model we lengthen it,

first of all, as you understand, but only after i started working with english fabrics, i realized that our domestic fabrics are from the soviet period, they just the same thing that was made on cevel row, the value of this natural silk, natural wool, that’s all we had, in general, we wanted some kind of variety.

no one did, how institutions worked on this, there was such an institute of labor, for example, which regulated there each profession, its own technical specifications for the uniform, such happiness that... they no longer influence this and real designers work, it is so visually pleasing to the eye wherever we encounter people in uniform, yes, but vyacheslav zaitsev was an innovator, of course , he managed to convert people, and

it was not very easy, i think it was much more difficult for him than for us, of course. always, in order to break some kind of system, there must be - this one bright, brave person who, at first everyone will condemn, but then he will do in their own way, everyone will say: oh, we need this too, he changed the attitude towards fashion not only in our country, but also the attitude towards russian fashion in the west, yes, he was called red dior, yes, yes, it’s amazing that he has this succeeded and... and the russian period was after they saw it, the work, in fact, in every large house, european, there was a russian period. tatyana, why do you think vyacheslav zaitsev was often called either a red dior or compared to pierre cardin. when the first olympics took place in moscow, the summer one, a company from the bbc came, this

there was a documentary, 27 episodes, my task was to ask a very...

responsive man, many you know, many considered him so pre-precious, a little greedy, no one ever said that, but yes, he was pre-precious, that here he is in his model house i walked around, turned off the lights everywhere, but this is not so, it was a completely correct idea, why should we have lights on somewhere in some corridors in the middle of the night, when no one walks there, for example, well, this is a business, this is saving money, they had to pay for themselves, this is a huge building, this house of models, which was on prospekt mira, they had to... pay for themselves and he just counted the money, it was normal, but he was not a presumptuous person, because not only for me, but i know so many actresses, he and i sewed a dress and very often rented a dress when you just needed something to wear for once, so i had some kind of outfit, unfortunately, i didn’t find this photo, with a fluffy golden skirt and some kind of

scarlet color, such an incredibly scarlet color, a jacket with some kind of embroidery...

to the house and i say that we traveled a lot as members of the jury to various competitions, and i really wanted to make his portrait, i generally adore portraits, this is a colored pencil, it’s really cut off a little, there was more of this red, so i called his red deor, because he really had such a nickname, that’s what the red deors called him, this is the red color that goes with this, and is this red or orange here? on the monitor it looks a little more orange, in fact it’s a red scarlet, like a pioneer tie, yes, that’s why i actually made his hair like that too, it’s actually red, that is, it

’s a red, red-white-black portrait, and why is there such an angle, but i just liked it - the photograph, i didn’t draw it from from nature, but from a photograph, so i liked the photograph, this angle, some dots, then, he walked around a lot with this crest. something straight all over, just this angle a little from below, as if it were a bit of a deity, but you immediately showed vyacheslav mikhailovich, no, i didn’t tell him i showed him for probably a very long time, about 10 years, well, i was just somehow shy, he was standing next to me, and he’s big, and he’s still, by the way, how big, how big he is, well, somewhere, probably, one and a half by 10 meters, yes, i say that there are several here. it’s cropped, that is, it ’s more elongated, and i didn’t show it to him, and what’s more, it was all done with a pencil, that is , it’s a pastel oil pencil on a gray background, and how long did you draw it? well, i don’t know, i

drew pretty quickly, because when i light up, i can’t eat, don’t sleep, but i need to do what i planned, so i then sleep off and eat up, and but i didn’t show him for a long time, in the original i never... unfortunately didn’t show him this portrait, and under what circumstances did you show it ? and we met again at the fashion house, he had already taken a photograph of me, i showed it to him on the phone, but it seemed to me that he really wanted me to give it to him, but i hesitated again, he didn’t ask for it himself, so give me a small gift, well, it wasn’t like his style either, so he stayed with me like that, although i really wanted to give it to him, but now i won’t have the chance, although i’m talking about these... things, i regret a little that somehow my inner one, this one - i think i’ll offer it, in case he doesn’t like it

, but somehow this is a little bit of a misunderstanding, that is, i, although i saw that he really liked it, really liked it, but i didn’t offer it, and he didn’t ask, that’s why he stayed with me to this day how long ago, victoria, do you have such a rich creative path and such colossal experience? you have completed all the stages development of russian fashion, and well, you can be considered one of the main experts in our country in this field, what would you advise young russian designers today? in general, without studying design, it is impossible to be a fashion designer, but i think that this is the junction of architecture. and design , a fashion designer can be born, because, in principle , some three-dimensional structures, a person...

an idea not only by name, but also how he fits into the armhole, everything, and this is given to the difficult ones by education, that is, it is impossible at the level of courses, but if we are not talking only about free artists who make art certain things, then we may not look at any basics, because if we are talking about industrial modeling, this is a very big responsibility, for example,

when i dress... some company, it could be a thousand people, or maybe 300,000 people, any mistake of mine, the mistake of my team can even result in a tragedy in the workplace, so, well, i don’t know, it’s probably , after all, about responsibility, and what inspired the hares, how do you think? it seems to me that , firstly, he was probably inspired by the history of the country, he probably studied russian folk costume well, and he was also a wonderful painter. this also says a lot , because in fact, if it were possible, i would gladly buy some of his paintings, but i have never seen them for sale, he painted very unusual paintings, very cool, they are just so interior-friendly , they seem to me to be out of time in general, i am grateful to you that you raised this topic and touched upon it, well, somehow they underestimated this in the country, our leaders, and the fault

of the ministry of culture. you understand, for example, the french, yes, one of them , i don’t remember which of their presidents, once said a phrase that the whole world now knows, that how difficult it is to govern a country that produces 400 varieties of cheese, you know, they even they are trying to make it their flag, they even made the french language so that it is included in some kind of treasure in unesco, you might think that other languages ​​are worse, well, yes, it’s a question of how country branding works, your country and promoting it need to be done in different ways, not only are we a great power, yes, well, other countries think, well, yes, you are the biggest in the world, therefore you are great, it must be said that we have some gorgeous fashion designers, and what wonderful ballerinas we have , and what wonderful musicians or composers we have, and so on and so on, but with us everything is somehow on its own, you know, on its own, and this is wrong,

because it is not properly structured. but why somehow vyacheslav mikhailovich, i think, was not very supported? well, i really hope that we really have a future ahead of us. some kind of large retrospective exhibition on a large museum site, where not only his works in the field of fashion will be presented, but also painting, and it will be possible to learn a lot about him. listen. the first soviet couturier. red dior is a true visionary. zaitsev always praised our culture, and today he himself has become a part of it. we remembered the legendary designer, with whom, one might say, fashion began in our country. this is not a bastard. all issues

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hello everyone, friends, this is a podcast not in format, and as always in the studio my wonderful permanent knowledgeable people, this is karina cross, valya carnival , behind me is the gip group, this is roman, nikita, arkady and alexey, our guests today, in the presence of this singer, all the watches behave decently, because time has no power over her, simply incredible, today, hello everyone, also our guest today is super handsome, super talented, and also super-duper generous, because he gave hits to many artists, but by the way, he didn’t forget about himself either, misha marvin, welcome, thank you very much, very good, and was ready

to share with me, yes, i can, again and again knights it turns out, we rent, what do you think, these are the criteria by which we met the two of you today, yes, we are just good, yes, we are just kind. yes, kind, good, it seems to me so, it seems to me that we can now find out what can unite you, we will now hold a blitz, get to know you better, i will ask you a question, and you you need to quickly answer this question, either yes or no, so, are you singing in the shower, were you singing under the plywood, yes, look, they’re not ashamed, it was secret. account on social networks, and i would have yes, so they posted a photo in which you don’t like yourself, yes, yes, they said such a phrase, you even know who i am, never in my life,

forgot the words of my song on stage, oh, this is a constant , how they got out, and now the battle is in the hall, yes, well, you can send it into the microphone into the hall all the time, it’s true, it’s very convenient, but not with new songs, performing the song, it’s good that it’s not the other way around, but what is the answer correctly, this song you are mine, which was performed by her daughter, the song is very soulful, and i remember, especially when it had just appeared, and we

performed it on stage for the first time, i just couldn’t finish it, i had it’s just that there was such an increase in tearfulness, just horror, then somehow we learned a little with it and got used to these emotions, or something, i don’t know, somehow i don’t feel it so keenly anymore. should i give up music? okay, for what reasons? there was a very stormy period of my life when i generally thought that i would no longer to go on stage, i left moscow, well, in general, this is a long story that has already filled oskomina, which i don’t want to talk about, that was such a period, mish, i just don’t know how to do anything anymore, so i didn’t think about leaving music , and the last question , have you ever been ashamed of your performances, probably yes... it’s heartbreaking, sometimes

it seems to me that there were some cutoffs, there were, you know, when you can’t hear yourself, something like that with the sound it wasn’t very good, and i myself understand that i just wow, how i feel right here maybe it just seems to me that i’m directly covering you up, to which everyone says, what are you doing, that was wonderful, i say, you can say anything you want, i’m the strictest critic of myself, misha, i know that you have prepared a gift, this is a very cool song. very cool song, this is your song, i conjured it a little, changed it into a third person in a male way, well, in general , it all turned out like this, i couldn’t hold it in my hands, he is your love, and neither a friend nor an enemy, you could . love him, but like birds in a cage

to live, forgive me, you are flying away, because now you are completely different, because now you are like birds in the heights of heaven, there was love, smoothly, only everything went to him. another today you, alone, alone, the birds could fly away, was there love, love for him, let's all be together, there was love, there was only everything passed, on to the topic, you scold today.

we very often have fetas and duets, in my opinion this is one of the best now , this was cool, this was guys , i really really like it.

after the break i’m returning to the stage, i want to catch up on the fact that there was love, that’s all it’s passed, i’m different now, i don’t wish anything bad on anyone, go, swim, fly, whatever you do, whatever you want, without me, but i have everything, here i am, everything is left behind. that’s why the song is probably the most autobiographical in my repertoire, it’s just so iconic for me, when i came out on stage, there was love, all this audience of thousands of olympics was with me, wow, guys, it was in general, it was before goosebumps, it was very cool, really, misha, you have a super romantic song called french kiss, i have two questions, why not a russian kiss, the second question, is it also autobiographical or? like all songs , one way or another, all artists write songs in

most cases about themselves, about their lives, this song can also be said to be written from my life, but it is also like, as a collective image, that is, her anyone can translate themselves there, recognize themselves in this song, because such stories happen very often, unfortunately, wait, but not very often when an artist makes a trilogy of songs, yes, because there comes after... was received by our listeners, it showed good results, and of course we thought, why don’t we continue this story, that’s it, and we wrote the next song, literally, well, very quickly it was born, and we ’re all bang-bang-bah-bah- bang and everything went well, and it turns out like a life story, first french kisses, romance, everything

is fine, then i’ll kill you, i’ll kill you, because some conflicts begin in you, in the end the ending, i’ll tell you, no finale, we decided to add one more episode. in yours trilogy, i’ll explain, just besides, having learned that you are sensitive to strong figures, you know, present in life, we decided to add a star to your series, and come on, and we combined - the song french kiss , yeah, with a song of tenderness, valery, i will help you, but... french kiss, you kiss me, kiss me, your lips are like flowers, with the scent of spring, your french kiss, you kiss me, kiss me, because when we were together, it seemed to me i am in love, my dreams are not

lost in the blue winds, this is...

valery, i have such a delicate attitude towards you question, a woman’s, i give, to investigate intrigues , under no circumstances, this is what it’s like to work with a loved one, let’s say, there are nuances, but there are still more advantages than disadvantages , we are very emotional people, both of us, and of course, we are very we often conflict, well, it’s not that even these are not some kind of global conflicts, you know, which then are all a scam, maiden name, although it’s my maiden name, but even. oh how, oh how, well, no, not everything is not about this, but rather, simply, of course, we will prove that we are right, everyone, we argue, wait, is it true that joseph leaves when you get drunk from the house, well , i read somewhere on the internet, this is a brilliant way to squeeze him out of the room, not because he leaves, because he is unpleasant to listen to it

or it annoys him there, because that he always talks on the phone, and if i start singing, it bothers him, in fact, after all, the main secret is sweet. it seems like in our long-term relationship that we can argue, but we need time to separate, everyone will probably digest the information, and he will approach her already having cooled down, having already weighed everything with a cool head, because when an emotional story begins, you can’t even get to the bottom of the meaning, because everyone is already carrying something of their own, although they think that i am very much like i would be diplomatic, but this is not always the case, especially when it comes to work. i’ll argue until i’m blue in the face, but the birds whispered to me , they wrote in the drawing that you have a very interesting acquaintance story, that you performed at the morning star, if i understand correctly, here you are joseph i saw it, and you won there, you can tell me , so he hated me, of course , because it wasn’t his artist who won,

it was me who won, and he didn’t love me very much, there were 10 years while we were with him didn’t meet, the birds also whispered to me here, or that the song “airplane”, which was one of the very first, yes, you really didn’t want to sing it, you categorically didn’t like it, did it happen, did it happen, it generally seemed to me that this the song is very primitive, because then i liked more complex music there, everything is so sophisticated, it’s all there, there are three chords, there’s a simple melody, i remember my feeling when we were filming the video, the video was really so iconic and i think today it looks very cool, i recently accidentally rewatched the sheet something on youtube. it’s true that today it looks cool, modern, however , when we were filming it, i think, suddenly some people pass, for some reason they entered the pavilion, like, i think, my god, they ’ll hear this now, i think , lord, such a shame, oh my god, i think that i?

please, welcome, it’s easy for me, i even forgot the melody, okay, okay, okay, let’s go, in a year, i won’t be back here, well, who ’s asking you for this again? when we melt away forever, one more time for my mother, who takes me

away, in a year, i will not return here, but who will you.

anton , how about, well, like, they go from being a hooligan to being a musician , my parents stopped me from this in time, i actually had a case when my father directly followed me, wow, and i was standing on the playground in the nursery, doing all sorts of things warmed up and i i'm looking right behind this. behind the tree there is a much more familiar bicycle, his head sticks out like this, just a finger there, come here , come here, but thank him very much for the fact that he, and not like some, you know, parents, forcefully about some there, well, in short, physical stories, thank god no, he explained everything to me in a fatherly way, wisely and competently, explained that you are simply leading yourself nowhere, in fact. children from such rebels and hooligans eventually grow into interesting personalities, as in general are you writing a song? we meet with

the studio beatmaker, yeah, he starts playing some harmonies, i tell him: we’ll leave this harmony, let’s hang everything else on it, while he puts everything else on, i come up with a melody in my head, write down some lyrics on a piece of paper, when something is already ready there with an arrangement, he turns on the microphone, i give it all into the microphone, and it happens that it’s just... that without lyrics, you’re just humming some melody to the arrangement, just something -what's here for you the first thing comes to mind, just a freestyle , let's say like this, in bird language, yes, the famous bird language, you make a freestyle just with a microphone, and choose toplines and substitute, this is a verse, this is a chorus, this is how it is built, and you are on these melodies you already write the text on top, cool, always in different ways, but it’s a very interesting process, and how long does it usually take you like this, well, for example, we did the french sublayer in half an hour. wow, as it turned out, i often asked many artists about the songs that the artists have.