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there is emotional abuse, but this is all that you perceived as a child, your childish thinking shaped this, in fact it is just a relationship between two people, they are some kind of thing that actually have nothing to do with you, but drama , which has formed in your head, it is like this, and of course, your father did not give you the protection that you wanted, which is why it is expressed in this very fear of men, because men can really do anything to you, i changed the timbre of my voice, my posture, everything is fine with you. you see, and you can calmly listen to me, and even listen, and even seem to listen to all this, yes, but i control you, that’s the point. you need to understand that you also know how to manage, and for this you need to learn to attract attention, hold attention and give attention, here are three things that are important to learn to do, attract when you want in any way, not immediately very obvious, to attract, hold it and let go, that is, so you...
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but you hold it for 15 seconds, that's enough, then a little more, a little more, a little more, only in this way , well, i have difficulties with retention, i look at people who have, for example, there, well, even if they are friends, it’s loudly said, i don’t know, there are friends with whom they can meet, there drinking a cup of coffee there with people with whom they worked or were friends there for 10-15 years, for me this there causes such envy in the fact that i can’t do this, i can’t do this, peace for you. very much, and
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relationships with friends, relationships with the world, do not work out so easily, because you are defending yourself, because opening up unsafe because you have some experience, but you have so much love, warmth, an absolutely charming girl, and if you give the opportunity, take a step forward, then perhaps the world will still answer you, yes it will definitely answer, and it will will cause a lot of pain. this will, of course, be your question here, but at the same time it will be very good, well , at some point it seems to me that my defense mechanism is so triggered that i have the feeling that i will not survive this pain anymore, yes- yes, well your task is just to learn turn on these mechanisms when you think it’s necessary, but they never turn on by themselves , and the most important thing is to turn them off when you think it’s necessary, it will happen, well, you just need to devote time to this, just every time you enter contact with a man, well, better with...
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actions, because i realized that a couple of years ago i chose the right strategy, that i began to change something in small steps, it’s just that at some point the motivation apparently ended, i wanted it right now, so that tomorrow i wake up, i will be open, without framework, without everything, and free inside, now i realized that i just need to continue further, little by little make contact, and i liked the idea of ​​15 seconds, that...
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psychologist psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, we talked with the charming victoria about the fear of men, about its causes and even, probably, to some extent, consequences, but most importantly, it seems to me, a... hello everyone, tatyana gevarkyan and the nekomshits are with you. today we are talking about the relationship between cinema and fashion, recalling the most iconic images of film stars from soviet films. with me in studio bone artist.
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connected with theater and cinema, and of course, every time i entered the elevator with one of them, i , you know, with the already beginning glance of a costume designer, scanned each time i admired, was amazed, from childhood, so i had such an incredible opportunity watch them, who did you like best in your everyday look, so to speak? well, anastasia vertinskaya has always been absolutely incredible, anastasia vertinskaya, they called her: the soviet audre hemburn, graceful, sophisticated aristocratic appearance. she conveyed beautiful images not only on the screen, but in everyday life. i was amazed then that she wore flat shoes, which we all love so much now, with long skirts, men's boots, always
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some interesting headdresses, hats, caps, berets, and there was another amazing moment, she already wore one long earring.
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it was noticeable among our film stars that they were brighter, more provocative, there were, as it were, two images, there was an everyday image and the image of a star, very often they got tired of popularity, on the contrary, they want to hide from recognition, allamidova was different in that i didn’t recognize her every time, also as a little girl, when she entered the elevator, i think who the neighbor is, and this is allamidova, that is, she knew how to... then hide your star. at the same time, if you look at her photographs, look at some chronicles from festivals, of course, she is incredibly stylish, stellar, with amazing posture, but one of the ability of film stars to transform in life is to look like ordinary women, so that they didn’t recognize when they didn’t want it. well , by the way, today yes, today all famous
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actresses, they try to hide either behind dark glasses, or dress modestly enough in everyday life so that no one recognizes them, was it the same then? of course, i didn’t know and didn’t see everyone, but what i saw, it seems to me that it was the same, it’s one thing to go somewhere in the morning to a rehearsal in the theater without makeup, also wearing dark glasses, hiding behind some kind of this headdress, but it’s another thing to go to the premiere in the evening somewhere where they should recognize you , everyone should talk about your image, let ’s talk a little about film images, from your childhood, whose images you remember most, for example. gurchenko, what are the most memorable images for you? of course, probably everyone wants to talk about the carnival night, but my favorite movie with her is just the calmest one, probably it’s a movie of five evenings, there’s a very interesting transformation that happens to her,
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she’s at the beginning, as far as i remember, in some appear in a robe in these in curlers with some kind of scarf on her head, so completely nondescript, by the end of the film by some very simple means... it was she who popularized the famous christian dior new look silhouette among soviet fashionistas. after the release of the film station for two, women began buying piles of magazines with patterns, sewing dresses and curling their hair like the heroine of the film. what do you think, these outfits of the carnival night, they were inspired by the costume designers from the house of dior, definitely, i don’t remember, in my opinion, fifty sixth year, yes, that is, almost 10 years have passed since the moment when christian duor proposed this wasteful look with a huge amount of fabric that was spent on the dress. the post-war period generally changed the entire female silhouette and even somehow
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returned to women the corsets that they took off with such difficulty and with such pleasure at the beginning of the century, suddenly the fifties again everyone is being pulled into a corset, this is a wasp waist, it also came to the soviet union a little later, but this is such an understandable desire of post-war women to look beautiful, feminine, well, this is a very popular silhouette today, i have a dress that... i inherited from my grandmother, i even have a photo of her at a reception at the soviet embassy in a dress in the dior pritallin style, i still have it it’s been hanging in the wardrobe for a while now, i blow off the dust from it, and i even wore it somewhere a couple of times, well , somehow the christiano dior brand itself doesn’t promote these silhouettes, they practically don’t change from season to season, the length changes, it changes there the texture of the fabric, but this new look is always in their collections. is present, now everyone very often looks at soviet cinema of the era of the seventies
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and eighties, and they say that modern collections of famous world brands are very reminiscent of an office romance, or a photo of lyudmila gurchenko in a suit, it ’s just a missoni suit, where they found outfits at that time time for a movie, were these some famous brands or was it made to order, how did it all happen? well , there weren’t really any well-known brands back then, and then... naturally, it was all made, it was all costume designers who collected fabrics, found patterns. in fact, these are practically the first fashionable costumes, because if you watch movies of the twenties, thirties, even forties, here is lyubov orlova, for example, she is considered the first soviet diva, yes, but try to remember some of her images. lyubov orlova, diva, cinema of the thirties-fifties. golden curls with a cold wave, accent on the lips and graceful high eyebrows. she
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created her image together with her husband, director grigory alexandrov, inspired by actress marlene dittrich and the dream factory. fur coats, shiny evening dresses, and of course, elegant hats. but lyubov orlova is often compared to marlene dittrich in her image. in terms of image, yes, light curls, these thin eyebrows, red lips. at that time, the clothes in the movies were practically worn out. because , well, ideology was probably more important, it was more important to show that the heroine, a real soviet woman, she thinks in public terms, and not about some personal thing, and in general all the remnants of the bourgeois style, all this was more likely to be found in negative heroines than the positive ones. natasha, if we talk about actresses, about film stars, how was sexuality conveyed in cinema back then in soviet times and how is it today?
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after all, in the eighties , we also see such heroines, well, even the same irony of fate, all the heroines there are beautiful, bright, quite fashionable and independent, well, that is, as if at some point, probably somewhere in the mid-seventies, probably, this is already after the thaw, as if... a woman is allowed to be beautiful and stylish, and at the same time , as if, as if the clothes were not has to do with character, that's what a woman looks like no longer. 100% shows how she will behave in the cinema, that is , there may be some surprises, then there was another move, how to show the characters as fashionable, stylish, sexy, but these are historical films, oddly enough, censorship checks that fairy tales are being filmed, films are being made about the future and about the past, in all this spectrum there are a lot of sexy heroines, this is naturally milady, margarita
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terikhova, in general one of the sexiest, by the way, film director, here’s another name. and if you look at the way she is dressed, there is nothing from the louis era, but a lot from the fashion of the seventies, from some kind of fashion that could not be shown, i think, in soviet cinema, she is just a hippie, because even this boch style, she has badforts, tight trousers tucked in, this is a shock of flowing blonde hair, fashionable winged wings, well, that is, they did it all right there. a modern, sexy, very cool girl, another one, by the way, one of my favorite films of the eighties is the film is an unnamed star with anastasia vertinskaya, who, by the way, being a diva and such a role model, for many has never played modern heroines, so if you list how she started almost from childhood, oly and sails,
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amphibious man, war and the world and anna karenina , she is everywhere, or a heroine from the past, or in general such non-russians... like ophelia, all her heroines, they are all somehow shakespearean, so historical, but at the same time there is a film with a nameless star, where she appears again in white, like this a dress of fashionable slackers, some furs, well, everything that a soviet woman cannot wear, those same curly blond locks, that is, it seems like a historical heroine, but the fashion seems to be modern, it’s not easy, today... together with costume designer natalya konevskaya, we analyze the wardrobes of the movie characters of the most iconic soviet films. in general, in recent years we have been looking at our old movies with a completely different look, that is, back then we really followed the plot, the ideology, we remembered the songs, but somehow the images were not put aside in my head, now everyone first of all
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pays attention to the images of our film stars. oh, well, probably, yes, we have already accustomed us to these modern films. that cinema always collaborates with fashion houses and designers and that any new film that comes out, if it is somehow connected with fashion and stylish heroines, is always discussed, who made the costumes, what brands dressed them, then of course this did not happen, so if we go back to lyudmila gurchenko, then this dress in the new look style, christian dior - it was rather the other way around, that is, something like this appeared dress, such a... bright heroine appeared, all the women around tried to repeat this image, because there are no fashion brands , there is a shortage, there are few stores, and the only thing you can look up to is these films that are shown all over the country, in all cinemas, and of course, after this all the women try to repeat the styles of these outfits.
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these are some of the other iconic things you can remember from the movies that - after that, we see these negative but very attractive sexy beautiful heroines in a lot of places in the cinema white color. the same thing in the film ivan vasilyovich changes his profession, there are two heroines, there is the main character,
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who is always red and white, and there is the director’s girlfriend, she doesn’t just wear white, they are literally white. and here you can also see that these are silhouettes from ivsanlar and silhouettes from pierre cardin, everything is a little later, in general this is soviet fashion, it was always a little late, but still. but it looks downright expensive, beautiful, impressive, yes, who else is one of the famous designers of that time collaborated with cinema, there was a fashion house
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in which these models were generally developed , here is vyacheslav zaitsev, i think this is the most famous name, of course, there were many fashion designers, many designers, but somehow fashion and cinema at that time the time was divided, and the costume designers came either from the theater, or there were... artistic directors and costume designers, on the same carnival night, so interesting, there was a production designer, i think his name was konstantin efimov, he was also a costume designer in the film volga-volga, and also in some films with lyubov orlova, that is , these are the same people who could make costumes and sets, and worked workshops, a whole sewing workshop worked at musfilm, found these fabrics with difficulty. we found patterns and patterns in magazines somewhere, somehow these magazines ended up abroad , then they were recycled for many years, that is, it
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was all very complex painstaking work, because during the period of shortages it was impossible to just go to the store and buy clothes, let alone clothes , even fabric. how much easier is it today? work in cinema? and it’s simpler and more difficult, well, let’s just say it’s very interesting to work on historical projects, because it’s a whole. hunting through vintage shops, searching for some authentic things, sometimes one thing can create the image of a whole heroine, it’s like you can start from one found suit and come up with a whole life. in the office novel, this brown suit is said to have been found by alice friendly herself. we climbed through all sorts of film costume rooms, looking for something so terrible, shabby, i don't know if it's true or not. once an image. with lyudmila prokofievna was considered monotonous, gray and inconspicuous, but love is the best makeover, the transformed mymra became the standard for all women in the country. well, firstly, it
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is huge, it is very big on her, and secondly, it is some kind of the most terrible soviet fabric, that is, this is the kind of thing that no actress would want to wear. you just dress gloomily, without polish. hm. i didn’t notice, but there was an actor who wore it, do you remember this story 2 years ago back when brad pitt came out in a lyudmila prokofievna suit, no, on the red carpet, i know that this is always compared to all sorts of prada outings and brown suits, but i think that if you put them side by side, it will be just heaven and earth . natasha, how would you dress a business lady today if a remake of an office romance was being filmed. probably in hoodie, jeans in hoodie, hoodie, but this is a business lady on a remote job, on a remote job and after a remote job, it seems to me that people now
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already allow themselves not to comply with the dress code, well we won’t come up with this plot now, but it seems to me that it’s great to first show a person in something like that - shapeless, huge, we were once talking about images in films in the studio, and they told me: the story that turns out to be we have female actresses who are prohibited from bringing mass-market items, that is, they must be expensive brands, have you encountered this in your work? no, i think it's more the work of stylists, not costume designers, because in the movies, well, you can't dress everyone in couture clothes, because well, let's start with the fact that the heroines are different, if this girl always plays the wives of oligarchs, then it’s possible, but... yes, she very much limits herself to the possibilities of roles, but i heard that this was not dictated not the role, but the personal role of the actress, that even if she plays
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some, some modest schoolteacher, it should still be a prada suit, well, no, i haven’t encountered this, thank god, it seems to me that this is a little crazy , you know, if we go back to yours question about working with the divas of soviet cinema, i came across them a little. there at the beginning of my career, one of my first films was shot there by irina muravyova and irina kubchenko, for example, i was terribly worried about how i would encounter such superstars with them, and i had never met actresses who were lighter and more open to experimentation, then for a very long time , and in general this whole generation of soviet cinema stars, they are, perhaps, because they are not spoiled, perhaps because they already have such vast life experience, they never look at labels, they never...
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i’ll say evenly, maybe meet the right costume designer, well, as examples, i don’t know, audrey haborn and jwan chi, if only there wouldn’t be this little black dress because of breakfast at tiffany's, there would be audrey hebron, audrey hebron, well, she would be a wonderful, talented actress, but she would be such a super diva, which everyone still quotes this image with black glasses, with a monpiece and a long dress, this is the totality, to me it seems like it's some kind of luck, and also...
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what images are often used? marilyn monroe, of course, she has already become such a legend that it is probably more difficult to list the films in which she starred than to list some of her stage images, everyone knows the naked dress, the pink dress with straps, this one with long gloves, yes, men prefer blondes, well, naturally, a white dress that floats, that is, this is like a woman who immediately...
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this is an ordinary woman with children in ordinary clothes, well, that is, few foreign actresses can really be called today diva, because thanks to social networks we often see their everyday life, not only foreign ones, all of ours too, any beautiful actress who knows how to show herself and become a diva on the red carpet, she still appears in jeans in everyday life on her social networks in t-shirts, but it’s not that she doesn’t... her wonder is not good, not bad, it’s just that life has become so more open, that is, to become a diva, you need to cut yourself off from social networks and avoid poporace, i think that yes, so that only professional filming, only cinema, then you are in people’s minds, you are amazing , i think that how good is this, because often some everyday images, they are even more charismatic than these cold divas, you know, it seems to me
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that actresses. .. they don’t do this very much, especially actively working actresses with a large number of roles in the theater, with roles in films, they don’t have time for these interesting everyday images, it’s more like some kind of blogging story, and modeling, and in general in our time the time is already very commercial, because all the interesting images that we see were invented, i don’t know, by the hadit sisters or who else the kardashian family, it’s still all done in order to... what soviet actresses wore and how it was reflected in modern cinema, with costume designer natalya konevskaya we are discussing the images of soviet film stars, it seems that before those actresses who were called divas played very different roles, lyudmila gurchenko, vertinskaya, and well, almost all of our
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actresses had very different ones. in general we had such a wonderful, no i know whether a joke is allowed or not , what to check when a large film crew sits and discusses that elena yakovleva will play shapoklyak, and then by what roles they remember her for, you can understand what age people are, because someone she is remembered as komenskaya, these are people in their thirties, someone remembers her as an inter-girl - these are people in their forties, well , now a new generation is growing up, the inter-girls were also quite unusual, here i am
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in my childhood. very, by the way, one of the very quotable images is all these heroines, there is such a famous photograph where the four of them are.
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you comprehend, you think, this is the same thing, this is the same thing we wear now, this is where it came from, that is, it is always such an endless process of understanding the origins of who was inspired by what , and new images are born from this, well, fashion really very cyclical, the same office romance very much resonates with modern collections, for example, miu-miu, but at the same time it is complemented by some bright provocative details, for example, on top of this... suit mymry, below are these panties embroidered with rhinestones, yes, this is wonderful, absolutely, i wonder how this will go among the people, panties embroidered with rhinestones, i'm waiting for it, but how do you like this trend, by the way, i, for example, really like it , i’m waiting for when, when it will be really possible, but there was also
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a story before, for example, my mother, when i was studying at the institute, she says that she was one of the first to have jeans, uh- huh, yes, then it was considered not very decent for a girl to wear jeans, it was just so daring. in general, well, just like me now i’m making a film about the olympics , it seems to me that this year, the eighties, it generally changed the fashion coordinate system very much, and how sports fashion entered into life, so trousers and sneakers gradually entered, because before that these were things for exercise sports, shorts began to be worn on the streets of the city, just this sportswear, t-shirts, tell us a little more about this era... the tenths, when there was the olympics, because it was such a mixture of cultures, when there was a huge number of people came to the soviet union, russia doesn’t want to say, the soviet union, yes, and there was such a penetration of a new
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culture, everything fashionable, how it influenced soviet fashion, it had a very strong influence, i see it from all the references and from photographs, which is direct there was a transition, but in general it probably became popular then. here is the style of the seventies in the style of the eighties, and these are just completely different silhouettes, but there were these bell-bottomed trousers, very tight shirts, sharp collars, everything so tight, narrow, well let's just say, these are uncomfortable, you probably also heard stories from your mother that jeans were only put on lying down, buttoned up, it was impossible to breathe, today many people are like that today, but the year 1980 suddenly brings this sporty one.
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with bandages, yes, this belt for a swimsuit , these are the bomber jackets that you are wearing, these are also these tracksuits with bomber jackets, leggings, short shorts, sneakers, sneakers, we had never worn sneakers before, we had natalya varley ambassador of this sporty style, yes, yes, but she still i was kind of on a hike at that moment, of course, this and this were also such a breakthrough for that time and it seems to me a special kind of sexuality, this plaid shirt, tight trousers, and these sneakers.
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and they are sold by bloggers and they simply cost zero more. and tell us what else is now really very expensive on the resale market, well, besides, say, bags of famous brands. yes. vintage jewelry, probably, right? you know, oddly enough, i was faced with the fact that all the soviet symbols, real soviet things are very expensive, t-shirts with an olympic bear, tracksuits, these ones, olympic jerseys, real wool. with the inscription ussr , not fake, not altered, modern copies, exactly from that time, it is very expensive, to watch all sorts of films, especially tv series about some schoolchildren, about youth, until the end of the eighties, everyone walked around with these bags with the inscription of the olympics with an olympic bear, the film is related, by the way, just in every image olympic symbolism is somehow quoted, that is, it is symbolism, which... became somehow very iconic
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for the decade, but today it turns out that in the cinema we have seen almost everything, that there are no forbidden themes or stylistics left, as today this sexuality of the actress is broadcast, clearly not through frank clothes, just charisma, just getting into the casting, because i... who crosses her legs in white some story like sharon stone, i’m sure that no one can predict the dress and for 20 years this image is cited as the sexiest , as the most daring, although it would seem, but of the modern russian actresses, who would you name, like the sexy ones now, such a dangerous one is coming, you know, maybe you didn’t remember someone, you named someone, someone you understand that you are everyone now. of course, i can remember with pleasure the entire cast of kept women, i think that
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this magic happened there, when everything coincided, the images, the actress, the casting, the script, and of course, there was a lot of sex in every image, well, dasha moroz, aka in general, she is a very good dramatic actress, but it was after being kept that i got the feeling that for many directors she became a hostage to this sexy role. well, i think that this is her decision, we will see her in different roles, who else? i really love all the images of marina zudina, but this is precisely due to charisma, but due to charisma, because putting all the same things on some other actress without her appearance, without her posture, and nothing will work. thank you very much, natasha, it was very interesting, i i wish you as much interesting bright work from different eras as possible and, of course, success in your difficult work on... the right things, i realized that this is really a very, very
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difficult task, it’s true, you don’t know what to watch, it will be a win-win option classics of soviet cinema, and of course, all the episodes are not bastard and the podcast lab, which you can find on the first website. hello, the program is about the most notable events of this day. fate in the porthole, yuri gagarin. 90th birthday. what are the ideas of astronaut number one? are they working now? one iskander 3 s-300,
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our new successes in the special operation zone and footage from a unique underground hospital. one river or one rake, the head of the polish foreign ministry follows macron on nato troops in ukraine. ironies of history. this is a fiasco. zelensky went to istanbul, but did not understand everything. translation into ukrainian from turkish was limping on both legs. wait, watch, take risks, all for the sake of one shot. festival pristine russia. we'll show you the best shots. a name known to everyone. today is the 90th anniversary of the birth of the first earth astronaut. a guy from the outback, with a strong character, an unbending will and good health. his portrait with an open smile was in almost every home at one time. gagarin fulfilled the dream of hundreds of thousands of soviet people who for many years, day after day
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, created a ship and a rocket to convince humanity. we are able to reach the stars. and he gave the whole world hope for great achievements in space. the first manned spaceship vostok, 108 minutes of flight, one orbit around the earth, a triumph of our science and technology. gagarin is in everyone today of those who have already been in orbit, are there or are just dreaming of going there, this is also part of the russian soul, if to be, then to be the first. hello, my dear, dearly beloved valechko, lenochka and galochka. i completely believe in technology, it shouldn’t fail, but what if it does. happens, then i ask you, first of all you, valyusha, not to die from grief. i hope that you will never see this letter, and i will be ashamed of myself for this fleeting weakness. he wrote this letter to his family before flying to space was a case of an unfortunate outcome, but his 18 minutes in orbit proved that it is possible not only to escape beyond the boundaries of the earth, but also to change
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the idea of ​​​​human capabilities. i observe the earth, forest, rivers, clouds, everything is beautiful all around. beauty. one revolution around our planet. when asked by journalists what it was like from space, yuri gagarin jokingly answered like this: the earth from the vostok ship looked round. he maintained his sense of humor in orbit, communicating with communication stations. the blonde is alexey leonov, who in 4 years will commit his first spacewalk. later , documents will be declassified, from which it will become clear that gagarin’s flight actually did not go smoothly. the first cosmonaut. he could even have died, historians count 11 emergency situations, at the beginning it was very difficult to close the hatch and the launch of the spacecraft was delayed, it was a very complicated story that the spacecraft was launched to a point other than the calculated point in orbit, the landing of the spacecraft was expected at a completely different given
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point, it was such a small room, yura and bori, here they studied their lessons, slept on the bed as usual, now... modern young people say: how did the two of them sleep on this crib? i say: yes, they were small, thin, and slept like valets. yuri alekseevich’s niece, tamara dmitrievna, shows where gagarin’s path to the stars began, from a small peasant hut in the smolensk region; during the period of the german occupation for a year and a half, she and her family huddled in a dugout. one day one of the fascists , nicknamed “devil,” hanged his younger brother i'm fighting against the apple tree, and if it weren't for yuri, he could have died. yura saw it, flew into the dugout , shouting: “to this day, cosmonauts come to this small village of klushina to drink water from the gagarin well, for good luck before the flight, oleg novitsky was there several times. it’s much easier for us, since
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we are already following the beaten path.” road, yes, we do much more work than alekseevich did, we work for six months a year in orbit, but it was his... flight that gave us the opportunity to understand that a person can go into near-earth space, into low-earth orbit and do some work. after the flight, gagarin is the most famous person in the world, he is met by thousands of people in india, and treated to sushi in japan. the cuban leader calls fedelcastro a friend. italian diva gina lollobrigida looks with loving eyes, and queen elizabeth of england even breaks protocol by eating a slice of lemon straight from her tea, because that’s what a soviet cosmonaut does. but... they communicate through an interpreter. english is one of the two subjects in which gagarin has a b in his diploma, second in higher mathematics. these are calculations related to flight dynamics. here is a picture of the earth and the trajectory of this aircraft entering orbit. these drawings of gagarin's graduation project were only recently found and shown to the public for the first time.
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yuri alekseevich received his higher education at the zhukovsky academy.

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