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we congratulate you as a living hero who exists among us, with gratitude and joy we dedicate our song to you, your underwood, he turned out to be simple and white-teeth unknown. we will smooth our hair with our hand, not yet bringing us into a coma, the kind, kind one was glad to touch him with tender , tender red stubble, even if there was no one, goodbye, goodbye, dear, unashamed life, beat, beat, yes, life winged, scolded. and like karin, i
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as if it were true that the milky way, god lowered it onto his lamp, his shoulder straps burn like mercury, he is so beautiful that the world is filled with white light, he laughs kindly to himself, his soul is like a shoulder strap, it is light for him, and for her afraid of life, bilon, beat da, life, krela, burned, kogaren, i loved you, he la,
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theater and film actor, hello, good afternoon, and also visiting me today deputy director for scientific work of the memorial museum of cosmonautics in moscow, vyacheslav klimenko. good afternoon, hello, good people, well, let’s talk, what does yuli alekseevich gagarin mean to you? gagarin had to happen in my life, we call him a hero, when he went to this, i think that he did not think that i wanted to become a hero, i think that he just, first of all, he knew how to dream, because looking at his biography, i looked, well, how can it be, well, it happens, a person chooses something in in his life there is one direction, i don’t know there, he chose wrestling in his life there, he goes boxing there, samba did something else. gagarn, well, he played basketball, and football, and hockey, he played in orchestras, he didn’t do anything, i was an elitist, i was an elitist, yes, this is his fate, i think it’s not because he hung around , because he wanted to try everything, how he came to the flying club in saratov, there is a story that , well, he just saw that someone
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was flying somewhere, he saw some story about the club wanted to go there, that is, he saw , went and won, some kind of thing, it seems to me, a very useful phenomenon for people in general, well, that is, do what... what you like, achieve some success in it, not like it’s accepted, well, go for something and you will become a worthy person, but do it and get pleasure and don’t wait for the lot to fall on you, walk, walk, hop, stand up, this is the most important thing, yes, so this is probably quality , to love life, to enjoy every moment of it, it helped him become the first, but i was not attracted to gagarin, i was so attracted to him it’s natural for me to enjoy myself here. now here is yaroslav, i played in a film once, but in art, i just came and played myself , we didn’t prepare for anything, tell me, before playing the role of gagarin, you had to do some special preparation, well , of course, i read everything
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that was available at that time, there is a small funny moment that during the filming, all the actors were very good, all mine... and they did some kind of classic makeup, tried it, but then they realized that it’s better to look for it through the internal history of this falling in love with life , than trying to copy him like that, you know that the most difficult thing was that there are a lot of chronicles that were filmed about him, they were filmed after landing, that is, we see him, he is happy, he is there, and even there footage
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that seemed to be taken before, well, that is , in fact, they were filmed after landing, this task is to decipher how he was really alone, how well he was worried, how well this really was. it’s scary, well, at that moment, i understand that for those who are flying now, well, it’s already quite, as it were, the way it’s clear, we understand where we’re going, we don’t know what to expect, there are so many simulators , everything else, of course, he went first, well , i think we can just now ask vyacheslav about his childhood, i know that the museum has a lot of things stored, collaboration in the museum, which is located, well, now in the city of gagarin, former gachchin, that is, what he was like as a child, what he was interested in. i don’t know what made me stand out from other guys, well, strictly speaking, a museum is a place where it’s true that we not only store objects, we study these objects, and we, strictly speaking, are for this, well, balanced historical truth , yaroslav just said that he read
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a lot, and this is also very difficult to understand with gagarin, because a huge amount of literature has been written, a lot of tales, a lot of myths, we really try to separate, as it were, what is called. all the wars that happened all went through these places, and there, in fact, in the 16th century, great events took place, and accordingly, the times of the napoleonic wars, that is, a place where it was always as if they were first defended, then let the enemies pass through them, and then drove them out of there, that is, yes,
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that is, it’s not easy to kill, and you can’t say that some small village, it’s actually such a good prosperous, well, prosperous village, a large village, probably kilometers 9-10 it is located from... the city, this is probably the earliest photograph, where the whole family, it so happened, a photographer came to the village, is this after or before the war, no, this is before the war, this is... on forty, even thirty-nine, and zoya, that’s my sister, she i heard that a photographer had arrived, she ran , got permission that it was okay, i ’ll take a photo, here she is standing on the left , she changed them all, you see, so shirts, valentin is standing, the elder, elder brother, the younger one is standing behind valentin boris , yura gagarin is sitting, by the way, you see how he looks, he doesn’t smile, yaroslav is now an interesting moment. noted that this smile is famous, if you look at all the photographs, there is such a smile and such
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a smiling gagarin, after the flight he doesn’t even after the flight, i would say after april 14, just look at the photograph, the first photograph, we have them on display in the museum, when it was just literally an hour later it was taken, they just brought his military unit, listen, it feels like the man from the underworld has returned, this is so true, he has not yet moved away from this, he still does not believe that he does not yet believe that he has returned, because he did it. no one would sign now even in one percent of such situations making such a flight, a good strong family, dad, which means he has such a working bone, everything was burning, everything was burning in his hands, it ’s interesting that mom is not just a peasant’s daughter, not just a peasant woman, it so happened that her family lived for some time , lived...
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so he received it, he received it from his mother, from anna timofeevna, and he helped his father a lot, that is , everything also burned in his hands, for example, there is a small wooden frame kept in the museum of the city of gagarin. which are on his father’s instruments, he made them with his own hands, so quickly, to put them there just like that photographs, photographs of his parents , and this is a school photograph, in general he went to first grade, back in klushino, in september, he really wanted to, he was preparing, he meant he was running, it so happened that his student there allowed him to sit with valya, with valentin, with his brother, he stayed in class there several times, he just went before the war, he went on september 1 , 1941. he probably didn’t even really understand that the war was already going on when the boy was 6 years old, so he studied for a month, a month in
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october, quite right, in october october, that's right , they kicked me out, in october the germans came, they set up a workshop there in this house, although the house was nice, big, there were three rooms, there they were, my father literally tore out the dugout in 2 days, they spent the whole time there that's all the time.
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because i also managed to communicate with people who were friends with gagarin, were classmates, and there are many classmates, many classmates, i just know that i remember when i, when i flew into space, well, we have the internet there you can read, well i read, for the first time naturally, i read, i watch, and there, in short, they write, well, i sat with him in class, i sat, and sometimes i read, i have never heard these names in my life, there are also such names, all the stuff was there, and the most important thing is that if they are all imprisoned for...
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ideals , they can go on the attack with them, money, but i’m not going to participate in assault operations, it’s too dangerous, i want to help the country, but at the same time i really want to live, all the places where foreign mercenaries gather are big targets for our rocket men, show vavan and lexus on wednesday in the first place, russia cannot be understood with the mind. general arshin cannot be measured, she has something special to become , one can only believe in russia, two feelings are wonderfully close to us, in them the heart finds food, love for the native ashes, love for fatherly crabs, do not sleep, do not sleep artist, do not indulge in sleep, you are a hostage for eternity
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time in captivity, hiss, be angry, my friends, wedges, you won’t salt me with them, to your great... unfortunately, i’m not going to fight with you, to your lies, to your statements, to yourself, i just don't care. when you resort to a saying in vain, it will not help you again, and you will not wash away the righteous blood with all your black blood, poet of russia. civilization premiere, film eight, russia, part two. on thursday. at the first, so , if we go back to school, and then, of course, he’s very active, very active, and active in that way, he’s really the first, he’s really a hooligan, he was a hooligan, well, he was such a hooligan, he was a normal boy, well, in charge of everything, and not in the forest, he’s in charge, there’s something to collect, some
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cartridges, some kind of old man, then he’s a captain, that’s if, well, that’s a little later it became, if it’s a sport, then the captain , for example, you remember the saratov period, the saratov school, the famous photograph where the national team stands, then this school, and gagarin is the shortest in height, and he is the captain of the team, and what is a captain team, this means that the guys chose him, that’s already his character, for 2 years he was the captain of the basketball team, here is this photo, here is their physical education teacher, here is the first one at number five, that’s really why he was chosen, the astronauts at the beginning, and we are already cosmonauts, well, yes,
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but here is another very important point, when we analyzed all the documents on the preparation of the first detachment, you understand, we even made such a mathematical formula, he was really the first according to estimates, this is a very important point, so he was really ahead of titov and others according to all estimates which he received in all the final exams during preparation, he was, he was number one, and you know, this distinguished gagarin, so we show...
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about the fact that he gave him, the only one who gave this four, i would also regret , well , do you think he was charismatic man, he was charismatic, so - i’ll even say this, the girls really liked him, he was very, you know, he was very, you know, there is a description of how he dressed when he went to school, yes, when he went to school, always ironed trousers, a white shirt, this canvas bag, that is, his mother was watching him, and at the same time he was very open, very... for the first time, just in everything, by the way , i wonder where the last name came from, it’s also around there are a lot of stories there, at a press conference they asked what kind of attitude to the princes
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of gagarin, gagarin, who live... he said this, you know, this is the edge of a little stubbornness, so i won’t get up until i do this, that’s why i could sit at night, and it happened like that, and it didn’t work out, there were moments , when he finished six classes, many of his friends decided to go to moscow, and he also makes such a decision, apparently it’s not easy for his parents, they let him go alone, so he comes, his uncle helped him there, he comes to the city of lyubertsy, he comes to city of lyubertsy. now there’s even an astronaut on the coat of arms here in this city, and he really wanted to have some kind of real specialty, which would later be useful as a carpenter, a mechanic, but he lacked education, this year, which
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he lost due to the occupation, there’s only one thing, you can go to become a pilot, they’re all they didn’t want, who did what, why, when they first got to ukhtomsky’s plant, here he is in his book, the road to space, he later describes, we were so scared, he says, everything rattles, sparkles, lava and... and they were preparing a line there , that’s all the report is, then the children became bolder when he was already like this he was very open, so good, yes, and he said, yuri alekseevich, can you recognize
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your desk, he said, well, he smiled, yes, i’ll try, and what kind of desks were there, that means, wooden tables with lids, yes, he went one lid, opened the second lid, which comes up, it says mine, i noticed something there, let’s say, under the lid. slav , tell me why gagarin is everything for us, because everyone in our country wants to be the first in their business, because we are such a country that wants to move forward, because gagarn, this personification, this is our bond. yaroslav, what do you say? well, i'll tell you everything. gagarin is an incredibly wonderful example of how you can live, i already am. he talked about this, but he said that this is a lifestyle, gagarin still chose one that you want to envy, nobly envy, and if you use this lifestyle, you
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will achieve a lot, and some kind of gate will open for you , which you don’t even suspect, because being the first in everything and not just, well, gloating try to achieve something, just go through pleasure, you will succeed, i think so, so it seems to me that to the museum and in general not only to... the museum , the memorial museum of cosmonautics, just to all the museums, in all the cities where it is stored, you need to go, you need to take schoolchildren so that they, in general, are charged with loon. dear friends, unfortunately, time has come to an end, today we remembered yuri aleksevich gagarin, we talked about what he was like in childhood, what he became after the flight, how do you you feel it, different generations, and today i had two wonderful people as guests, these are... theater and film actor yaroslav zhalnin, scientific assistant to the director of the memorial museum of cosmonautics vyacheslav
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never believed it. what ends, what ends, what ends the blue sea, you were the ringleader us, the devil of the sea, in a faded vest, you drove your father's longboat across... the rustling waves fearlessly, throwing your school bag away, you sat astride the fence and shouted to the binoculars, clinging to the binoculars, it doesn't end, it doesn't end, it doesn't end. blue sea, but one day
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it shot up into an alarming height, the cry of someone else's steamship siren, and then a letter arrived, like an undisguised grief, there was a revelation in it, but here it ends, here it ends, here the blue sea ends, here it ends, here it ends, here the blue sea ends. hello, this is a podcast 20 years
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later, with you the host konstantin mikhailov, and alexander anatolyevich, hello, our guest is the honored artist of the russian federation, tatyana bulanova, hello, tatyana, there are a lot of songs in your repertoire, some are funny, i listened to them last night, but you found people’s love as a performer of such lyrical songs about... a woman’s difficult lot, that’s how it happened that you are best at this, it seems , i just - i have some kind of, i don’t know, ability, probably such that i can convey all this so reliably, yeah, to the viewer, to the public, because both before me and after me, and i think that always there will be a huge number of performers who sing sad songs, but i can do it as if i really experienced it all, i remember the story was so interesting, there was a song like this, remember, sleep my little boy, sleep my son, i’m not sick
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anymore, yes... everyone thought that i was raising a child alone, that my husband left me there , although this was not the case, i was married to my first husband, nikolai tagarin, at the dacha there came to my, to my friend, some young man, and he decided to look after me, and the friend he says, are you stunned that she is married, that is , it seemed to him so much that i was crying, that really so, but it’s like it’s the same as an actor, when he plays the role of a killer, everyone thinks that he is a killer, when he plays, he thought that he was a single mother, to help syudbin means it’s not just a song, a played character , and. for a long time forever, but not played, i just sing, i don’t even understand , in fact, when i perform, i’ll be honest, when there’s a studio there i sing, one, take, two, three, four, it seems to me that they identical and there on the fifth it says what is needed, it seems to me that they are absolutely the same, as before it was like after, i don’t even feel it, that is, it’s pure in appearance , something is connected there, such a title of the main mourner of russia, i never wanted to change, the most weeping folk singer, that’s what they say, in general - and
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it seems to me that there is not that much sense of humor, and even my friend alena apina once said in an interview, she says more positively, in general, a cheerful person is generally difficult to find, but still you... had marriages, which broke up, what should a man do such a thing, treason except for you to think that that’s it, this is not mine, for me in general all my life it has always been that there is a mother, a father, and a husband is, well, the third third person after the parents , close, yeah, then the children come, so with by the way, it was like that for my first husband, but something like this happened in my life, i don’t know, it was a drama, probably that i fell in love, i left, and with my second husband, well, something didn’t coincide with us, somehow here... my views on life, my upbringing were not the same, well, somehow something was wrong, i honestly admit, i endured for 11 years, struggled, tried to somehow smooth it all out, because he gave it, well, to hell with it, although i’ll be honest, this step was very difficult for me, i ’m the kind of person, how to say for such
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family values, here i am, for example, i have a third husband there, now i have us there already before i married him, i lived together for 3 years, i have a wife, i say, i’m not a wife, i ’ll be a wife when we get married, and what does he do, he, well... he has restaurants and all sorts of things some kind of business, i just don’t, well, in general he opens restaurants, by the way, he’s a businessman in moscow, well, it seems ideal to me combination, a creative person and a person who is engaged, he is also creative, he really likes songs of the nineties, he comes to my concerts with pleasure, but you have a business streak, you want to open some kind of cafe there, a store, something like that , so he opened a restaurant in st. petersburg, he kind of named it after me, and i come, i just go there often enough, i know that people come to see me and i. as if i’m a responsible person , i really understand that you need to take pictures with everyone communicate, well, like someone like that, like a housewife, but if we let them dump everything on me , some kind of calculations, i don’t know accountants , and so on, everything will collapse at once. the fact that tatyana says that she won’t succeed
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doesn’t mean anything, why? because tatyana thought that she wouldn’t succeed with music, she already thought as a child that it wasn’t hers at all, but that everything else was under pressure, sacrificing everything else? no, the music school is completely out of control, and in the literal sense. because somewhere in the fifth grade, i remember they flew at me chairs, and my mother was a completely calm person, i’m just saying, i don’t want these scales, why do i need a third finger, here is a fifth, but it’s convenient for me to play like this, i’m basically a human being, which is not amenable to any kind of training at all, if somewhere something needs to be taught , that’s it, i immediately feel bad, i don’t feel good, that’s it, give me some water, everything’s a fever, and my mother at some point, i basically said that i’m everything i quit, my mother says, no, you’ll finish, i say, okay, i’ll finish, but i’ll leave, i’ll spit more i don’t remember anything at all, calm down with my music, yes i graduated, i have a diploma that i graduated from music school, now i practically don’t know a single note, play the notes for me, i don’t know them, but i have a very good one musical memory, i can remember the melody, well, practically the second time it’s 100%, perfect hearing, you sing
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live all the time, well, basically yes, but what ’s harder to get into your own track with a soundtrack, or you know, emotionally harder than a soundtrack because it's just not those emotions, but we live, there is something possible there. i don’t know how to apply some kind of paint there, well, it’s easier, we live more freely when you sing, i watched videos last night, watched your concerts, cried on a separate tab, left my clear light, so that the tears would dry up, my clear light, then what to burst into tears, again it’s clear and it’s like sarbet after a meal, so that my favorite song, beloved, doesn’t get boring, after all , yes, yes, yes, i still rock at discos, i assure you, tanechka, dear, my hands go up , happiness, smiles, dancing, temple, in at any age, i’m pleased, really, well , it seems to me that the video also played a huge role in this song, it was filmed by volodya shevilkov, but i honestly admit
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that kolya tagrin and i had a hand in the editing, because volodya, it seems to me, he’s a little he was embarrassed because he had some expressions like that, he said: don’t be afraid, just pum-pam-bambam, that’s all that was so funny, so cool, yeah, and somehow he edited it a little wrong, then ... how did i come to believe in what i should do next in life? i’ll say, i wanted to as a child, to be a dramatic actress, but i was absolutely pressed , so all sorts of things, and it was unrealistic for me to go out there and show it, it was absolutely impossible, i would have understood this, i decided that i would enter the leningrad institute of culture then it was still there. .. there was some kind of department that there were some theatrical performances there, something else, i mean i loosened up, and then i even remember the springboard, in the chapter it was the springboard in the theater, well , in general, right from the first that means i came with a guitar for my sister, but what about
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in general, i got a ticket for organizing holidays for the fifth anniversary of the plant’s anniversary, i said, i’m sleepy, and he said to me, well, tell me how you will be , so of course she didn’t say anything, because i didn’t know anything, in general, well... well, so what? that’s it, that’s all over, my plan is so brilliant, well, i think, okay, i’ll work on it, i’ll prepare further, because i wanted to become a student out of principle, there was no such thing in our family, there’s no you got in and you're walking around, which means you didn't get accepted to study and you're going to work, well, i went, dad, he says, and my dad was the deputy head of the second faculty of the military naval academy, oh yes, food , yes, that’s it, yes, he was such a submariner and he says my mother is like that, although my dad also sang, in principle , but my mother is actually all i was in the arts, in the pop scene, it’s all there, and i think the fact that i became a singer is, well , probably 80 percent thanks to her, and my dad says there’s a vacancy here, which means there’s some kind of vacancy. library, that’s it, i went to work, and the vacancy was in the foreign faculty, there is
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the fifth faculty in the academy, and there are foreigners there were real germans there, poles who did not know the russian language, they were taught the russian language so that they could read all these textbooks, like all this, they organized such open lessons of the russian language, when some russian traditions were told there, that - who could show something there, that someone was embroidering here, i say, i can sing with a guitar, so i remember it was... for the new year, i weaved some kind of romance, i really really like it, now too i like it very much, zhanna bichevskaya, i generally think that this is the best russian performer, zhanna bichevskaya and evgenia smolinov, two people for me who sing russian songs, i listened to the record, the noise of the city is inaudible, it ’s just her singing the songs of bulat kudzhava, for me bulat kudzhava at that time, at least i didn’t understand anything that he was singing, when she sang, there is the song of my life, it ’s just like first love, it burns my heart, really, i was 17 years old there, and i understood. she sings, it’s cool, what is the song even about, yeah, i sang something like that, i
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sang it all, it’s like i sat back down place, there were some tables set, and a yugoslav officer was sitting, well, naturally for me he was an old man, he was about 35 years old there, oh, but i’m 17, he’s 35, he says, will you still sing? i said, no, then i went , and he said this, not to do something nice for me, but he asked, will i be there again, i say, no, that’s it, i went, i actually got up, left, then what - there were also foreign listeners who came up, i remember some kind of gold one. i even came as somehow a golden voice, and then i thought, maybe it’s true for me somehow go into singing, because for me it’s unlikely that anything will work out with acting, well, people like it like that, that’s it, it’s okay , it’s like nothing, but with me in karaoke it’s just a different situation, the exact opposite one comes up to me and says: will you still sing? i say: yes, he gets up and leaves. ukrainian telegram channels write that there were supposedly no biological laboratories in ukraine. when physical evidence of such laboratories is discovered, what can be said? sbu officers could not get in
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is this business in ukrainian or where do western weapons go? a large number of weapons arrive in the middle east, through ukraine. the west, i understand that they know that the weapons that are supplied to ukraine go into the hands of terrorists. antifake, premiere, tomorrow on the first. of all the civilizations living on the planet today, the oldest is chinese; china has almost always been the most populated country and the first economy in the world. we can remember the famous travel book of marco paul, the italian merchant described with great amazement the power of the level of economic development that he observed in chinese cities at the end of the 13th century, the famous monochronic painting, chinese poetry, sophisticated literature, china, of course , was ahead in sophistication of, well, almost all countries. after the end of world war ii
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, the soviet union immediately took patronage over china. more than 10 thousand specialists from the soviet union worked in china and created almost the entire modern chinese economy. one of the first decisions after he became the leader of china was creation of an institute for the study of bukharin's ideas. so in china there is a sinicized nepa model. premiere of civilization. the seventh film. china. on wednesday at first. in our studio we hear songs and poems dedicated to the defenders of our fatherland. you are a person who renounced, yes, everything worldly, being a military man, you decided to return to the front line. for a monk, this is, of course, not typical of the life i live now. birds begin to fly or shelling begins. i’m driving and thinking, well, if they kill us, then i’ll be alone with my mother. it's not scary yes, who did you leave to, my wife is stronger
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than many women, she is a military wife, and fate has not promised her an ordinary world with its usual course of affairs and days, give him the strength to win, i wanted to thank all the doctors, volunteers, surgeons, i'm sorry, i'm in tears because i'm living. and these brothers are there with me, it's worth it, when you drew, what were you thinking? i thought about winning. on saturday on the first, on the air podcast 20 years later our guest is the wonderful tatyana bulanova, that’s the glory, it was there, did it collapse or was it gradual, summer group the garden was formed in december of the ninety year,
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and in the ninety there was the first album, which completely passed by, no recognition, nothing happened, then in the ninety-first year it wasn’t crying , somehow it seemed like from... we heard so slowly, little by little, they began to gain momentum, only in ninety-three, such a big first tour in the fall happened in the far east, we worked four concerts a day, i was sitting in the dressing room, there was such a makeup table, some kind of light bulb such, and the thought just occurred to me, damn it, if we are there at such a number of 9.00 or how many kilometers and people have flown across the whole country for four concerts a day , it means that we really are probably popular, that is, not just fame, ah... probably after all, probably , popularity has come, that’s all, this is the first time i realized that it seems like they know us like that, at the shlyaget 91 competition there was a grand prize for the song, don’t pay, unexpectedly for everyone, i honestly admit, probably when else the realization came, i had to get a prize and say thank you, grand prix, don’t cry, there
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was also a separate story there, it’s so wonderful, by the way there was a competition, honestly we just came there in the ninety-first year, may, and kolya, so... but he worked in the yabloko group , well, he had some acquaintances there, well, not producers, there wasn’t even such a word then, administrators, probably, i don’t know, organizers of all sorts of all this, and he called an organizer he knew, who just worked at this competition, listen, he says, seryoga is telling us, you can , as it were, just insert broadcasts so that they would see us, well, someone would recognize us, we came, so we sang there for a day or two, on the third day they seemed to understand that we we can somehow, like, even borrow something, even if we haven’t thought about it at all. and the voting was wonderful, as they would now call sms, then naturally there were no telephones, nothing, in the large oktyabrsky concert hall there were such faye columns on the columns there were simply white plastic bags the name is glued with tape there, let's say a group there, i don't know a boy, a summer garden group there, i don't know anyone else, ticket
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stubs, probably yes and no, they gave everyone who came in just a piece of paper, took a white piece of paper and threw it there, just simply empty and like this. there was such a vote and then , when everything was filmed, they counted, i remember, during the process there was such natalya stupishina, anka, if you remember, and i and you are not a doctor, but i was so glad, so she also participated, she i was the one who witnessed it, she has a lot there was a lot there, it migrated from her from her package to some other one, that is, it became such a thin package, that is, these voices left, and i remember that we installed our man, they said, so stop, consider it, because well, just so you can count, we ’ll be there already, if we quarrel, i
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