as if it were true that the milky way, the lord lowered it onto his stripes, his shoulder straps burn like mercury, he is so beautiful that it makes us sick, he is filled with white light, he laughs kindly to himself, his soul is so polygonal. it is light for him, and life sings to her. yes, life, krela, sparela, kokarin, i loved you, he is like karen, i loved you, vagarin, i love you.

my guest today is yaroslav zhalnin, a theater and film actor, hello, good afternoon, and today i am also visiting the deputy director for scientific work of the memorial.

the phenomenon is very useful for people in general, well, that is, doing what you like , achieving some success in it, not what is customary, well, go for something and you will become a worthy person, but do and get pleasure and not wait for what will happen to you, walked, walked, hop, stood up, this is the most important thing, but that’s why this is probably the quality of loving life, enjoying every moment of it, it helped him become the first, and it attracted me to gagarin, i him so to myself... i’m making it natural to enjoy here now, here’s yaroslav, i played in the film once, but in artistically, he just came and played himself, without preparing for anything, tell me , before you played the role of gagarin, you had to somehow specially prepare, well, of course, i read everything that was available at that time , there is a small funny moment that during the filming, it was very well gathered here.

everyone, all the actors, all my partners, always when they met me, in any scene, no matter what it was, they told me: “smile, you look so much more like gagarin.” i say, well... first of all, gagarin was not sick as a person, in order to smile endlessly , he had to do it for something, i think the director may have chosen himself because of your smile, because gagarin is very famous for his smile, yes, well, we tried it during before filming , they tried there and on the computer there they pulled me a little closer to gagarin, it all didn’t look very good, and they did some kind of plastic makeup, they tried, but then they realized that it was better to look for this love for life through the internal story than to try .

what he was interested in, i don’t know what made him stand out among other guys, well, strictly speaking, a museum is a place where, really, we not only store objects. we study these subjects, and we , in fact, for such, well, balanced historical truth, yaroslav just said that he read a lot, and this is also very difficult to understand with gagarin, because, well, a huge amount of literature has been written, very there are a lot of stories, a lot of myths, we really try

to separate what is called, considering what time it was, there was no such thing, as i understand it , democracy, openness, yes, of course, of course, many questions arise, many questions about why such decisions were made. and other decisions, yes, this is a peasant guy , he was born in a village not far from now, yes, the village of klushin is the city of gzhatsk, then, in fact, such a place, i will say, it is very important for the history of russia, because it is like on the border, smolensk region, all the wars that happened all went through these places, there, in fact, in the 17th century , great events took place, and accordingly , the napoleonic times. warrior, that is such a place where they always seemed to first protect, then let enemies through, and then drove them out of there, that is , yes, that is, it’s not easy to kill, and you can’t say that some small village, it’s really so good prosperous, well , a prosperous village, a large village, who

is probably 9-10 from the city, this is probably the earliest photograph, where the whole family, it so happened, a photographer came to the village, this event was after or before... no, this is before the war, this is about the fortieth year, even thirty-nine, and zoya , here’s my sister, she heard that a photographer had arrived, she ran, got permission that i could take a photo, here she is, standing on the left , she changed them all, you see, so shirts, valentin the elder brother is standing, the elder brother is standing, the younger one is standing behind valentin boris, yura gagarin is sitting, by the way. you see how he looks, he doesn’t smile, now yaroslav noticed an interesting point that this smile is famous, if you look at all the photographs, this smile and this smiling gagarin, he is after the flight, not even after the flight, i would say after april 14, just look at the photo, the first photo, we have them on display in

the museum, when he was just taken literally an hour later, here he is just a military unit they brought him, listen, it feels like a man has returned from the underworld, it ’s so true, he hasn’t recovered from it yet. he doesn’t believe it yet, he still doesn’t believe that he’s back, because you said it right, but there are 11 emergency situations, everything went wrong, that’s how many now you are talking with the chief designers, some, yes, they say , no one would sign now even in one percent of such situations, such a flight, a good strong family, dad, that means such a working bone, everything was burning, everything was burning in her hands, it’s interesting that mother, she is not just a peasant’s daughter, not just a peasant woman. it so happened that her family lived for some time, lived in st. petersburg, gagarin’s grandfather was such a hereditary worker at the st. petersburg flying factory, also, by the way, the flying flying factory, here she is received a three-year education, she knew how to read, unlike her father, so

she read to him a lot, told him fairy tales, that is , he received his first education, he received it from his mother, from anna timofeevna, he helped his father a lot, that is, he, too, was always on fire hands, for example, there is a city in the museum... and this is already a school photo, in general, he went to first grade, back in klushino, in september, he really wanted to, he was preparing, he meant he was running, it so happened that the student there allowed him sit with valya, with valentin, with my brother there, several times he stayed in class, he just went before the war, he went on september 1 , 1941, he probably didn’t even really understand that the war was already going on, the boy was 6.5 years old, so he studied for a month, a month in october,

absolutely right, i say, everything was so bright in his hands, everything, he knew how to do everything, and the stall

was very good, he is dismantling the house, this is in klushino, and he is moving, they are moving to nuna gagarin, to gzhatsk , and he assembles this house, here he goes to study fully, here is a huge a lot of stories, a huge number of sources, because i also managed to communicate with people who were friends, who were classmates with gogarno, and many classmates, many classmates, i just know that i remember when i... when i flew into space, well we have the internet there , you can read, well, i read, for the first time naturally , i read, i look, and there, in short, they write, well , i was sitting in the same class with him, i was sitting, and sometimes i read, i haven’t seen these names in my life i heard that there were other names there, klava was all klava, yes, the most important thing is that if they are all seated at one desk, it will be longer than our school, and the most important thing is who sat with me, alexey nesterov, he now lives in st. petersburg, who sat with me... not even once i didn’t say anything about this anywhere, can you imagine? a very similar story, because every year five or six

people come to our museum and say that it was he who closed the love for cocarine, although we know, i know who now, yes, yes, everyone is attentive, everyone is attentive we listen, so to speak, we don’t offend anyone, so if we go back to school, and then, of course, he, well, he’s very active, very active, and active in that way, he’s really the first , is he really a hooligan? he was a hooligan, well, he was a hooligan, he was a normal boy , well, he was in charge in everything, and not in the forest, he was the boss there to collect some kind of shell casings, some kind of football, then he is the captain, that is, if, well this became a little later, if if the sport is the captain, for example, you remember, here is the saratov front, the saratov school, the famous photograph where the national team is standing, it means that this school and gagarin are the smallest in height, and he is the captain of the team, and what is the captain of the team, it means that the guys elected him. this is already a character, for 2 years he was the captain of the basketball team, here is this photo, here is their physical education teacher, here

is the first at number five, here is the tallest, really, why exactly was he chosen, the astronauts, in the beginning, and now we are cosmonauts, well, yes, the first one goes everywhere, this is actually a very good question, that’s why it’s the first one, we studied for a very long time, we can tell a lot of things, of course sergei pavlovich had a very attitude towards him , he really of course, he generally called everyone oreliki, my eagles, yes, that’s it, but gagarin really treated him like that... very good , for sure sergei palovich chose who would fly first, you know, sergei palovich was chosen, sergei palovich chose, and of course everyone writes there and now that kamanin also writes that he chose, and i think that the decision was made at the very top, but here also a very important point when we analyzed everything documents on the preparation of the first detachment , you understand, they even made such a mathematical formula, he was actually the first, according to estimates , this is very ...

he admitted that it seemed to him that apparently gagarin was too cool, he needed to show it, because he says: he was between four and five, but i decided, i’m such a cool teacher, i gave gagarin a... four then all my life i regretted what he gave him, i was the only one who gave that four, i would have regretted it too, well do you think he was a charismatic person, he was charismatic, i’ll even say this, the girls really liked him, he was very, you know, he was very, you know, there is a description of how he dressed when he went to school, yes, when he went to

school, he always had pressed trousers, a white shirt, this canvas bag, that is, his mother was watching him, and at the same time... very open - at first, just in everything, by the way, i wonder where the last name came from, there are also a lot of things around this stories, at a press conference they asked what your relationship is with gagarin’s princes, gagarin, who live, he said that i don’t know any princes, then the myth began that it was actually someone who was a serf, was, well, theoretically it could be like that, because the truth of the land, the land of these these nobleman, that’s interesting. something is a bird, this is the bird itself, this is also some kind of symbolism in this, here is a loon, by the way, the nickname was, loon, so returning to what i studied, so this is what the teacher said, i took perseverance , i would even say, you know, this is the line a little stubbornness , so i won’t get up until i do this, that’s why i could sit at night, and it was like that and

there were times when it didn’t work out, when he finished sixth grade - many of his comrades decided to leave for moscow, and he was like that too he makes a decision, apparently a difficult one for his parents , they let him go alone, so he comes, his uncle helped him there, he comes to the city of lyubertsy, he comes to the city of lyubertsy, now even on the coat of arms of this city is an astronaut, and he really wanted to have some kind of such a specialty a real one, which will come in handy later, a carpenter, a mechanic, but he didn’t have enough education, this year, which he lost due to the occupation, only one now you can go to flying.

i’ll try, but there were some kind of desks , that means, wooden tables with lids, yes, he went through one lid, opened the second lid, which suits him, this is mine, i noticed something there, let’s say, under the lid, thank you, tell me, why is gagarin everything for us, because everyone in our country wants to be the first in

their business, because we are such, such a country that we want to move forward.

flight, how you feel it is different , how it was in childhood, what it became after a generation, and today i had two wonderful people as guests, this is theater and film actor yaroslav zhalnin , scientific assistant to the director of the memorial museum of cosmonautics, vyacheslav klimenko, and i'm anton shkaplerov, and this is a space stories podcast. hello everyone, this is nely komshity and tatyana gevorkyan, it’s spring outside the window, there’s a holiday in the soul, and we have guests in our studio who literally

personify beauty, both external and internal, elena krygina and alla sigalova. hello alla, hello lena, today we have such a spring, festive issue, we will talk about beauty, about beauty, naturally, not only externally, but internally, and i am very glad that you came, because you... for you personify me, well, probably not only female beauty, but human beauty in general, by which we today break the stereotype that you can be either smart or beautiful, because in our time it seems to me strange to choose one thing, and if you haven't become smart beautiful, it means something is wrong with you, because there are all the possibilities for this, beauty is not only about appearance, but for you, what is beauty, talent? first of all, i don’t mean a person in general, i mean those moments of beauty that are associated with unique people, for example, for me beauty is in the raised, shrunken

shoulders of galina sergeevna ulanova in giselle, for me beauty is the face of yulia peresilt in this cosmic window against the backdrop of the sun, for me there is beauty when a mother runs towards her... children and what is depicted in this the moment is depicted on her face, for me beauty is a surgeon bending over the operating table, so this is beauty, this is a moment in which each of us can shine, i understand, yes, what are you talking about, you are talking about this one the aesthetics of the moment, and there may be many such moments in life, there may be few, yes, there may be few.

for you they have some kind of incredible magnetism, the misfortune is that i am surrounded by famous and talented people, so many of them, of course, cause i am delighted when i come to watch their films, watch their performances , i have a lot of such people, at least, well, you see, you are lucky, there is a lot of beauty surrounding you, absolutely, len, tell me, what is this for you? is this the magnetic attraction in a person? firstly, i would not tie it to only external factors, if we talk about people, because i am often asked precisely applied questions about beauty, i am, after all, an expert in

the field of beauty and makeup, so i usually get questions about how put on makeup, but i always about the fact that beauty cannot exist without some kind of internal harmony or protest, harmony, when there is this calmness, beauty in the look in... make up, if you have such and such eyes, how do you like this makeup, which is now very popular on social networks , they practically show how to apply it, this

heavy contouring, heavy layer of foundation, pronounced eyebrows, eyelashes, it’s beautiful, it’s beautiful for, first of all , the audience of the middle east, that is, it’s makeup different in aesthetics, yes, that is there are always different directions and... different aesthetics. this is not suitable for scandinavians in russia mainly either, but it seems to me on the contrary, for a scandinavian type of face , heavier makeup is more appropriate, but for girls with an oriental type of appearance , they still have bright faces , heavy makeup doesn’t look good, it’s more of a stage makeup, there’s no specific rule, just why do you see it on social networks, because social networks are filmed on camera, that is, everything that is posted - this is a camera, the camera has certain requirements for makeup. you know very well that your makeup for this podcast recording will be different from your daily makeup. the same is true for those who develop on social networks, including making money,

somehow manifest it.

and of course, german expressionism is to a great extent al, is it now or is it the nineties, i’m talking about the nineties, so we listed it. len, this is what inspired you in the nineties, by the way, when we didn’t have such opportunities yet, of course, well, i mtv generation, i grew up in surgut, this is a small northern town, where, in principle , there are five house designs, everything is gray, snowdrifts, and there are several clubs where children can develop, there were very few opportunities to apply oneself creatively somewhere, and this charge was, here you turn on the tv, there are just all the colors of these clips, you know, our pop culture, these groups are all brilliant, no matter who, yes, western pop culture, and you sit in the evening, cut these jeans, put them in they are laced up to look like in this fashionable video, you twist yourself some kind of curls and you perform on your stage

in front of a mirror with varnish for...

the same gloss and we also had it, no, it probably came to us in the late nineties, yes it appeared, these are nily gomshita and tatyana gevarkyan, and today in our studio we are talking with actress allai segalova and makeup artist elena krygina, it seems to me that cinema has always influenced fashion on the perception of beauty, in particular women’s, but today it seems to me that it especially influences, especially on fashion trends, that is, last year we had barbie core, who gave us the creators of the film imposed barbie , mermaid kor, and mermaid color, as they say, then old manny also came to us from the cinema, and of course, at the end of the year,

the series the boy’s word fell on us, so everyone started imitating this gopkor, it seems to me that we all want to watch with interest. for extraordinary people, extraordinary people do not go in the crowd, these are people who do not sing in the choir, that’s why you are talking about the choir, but i prefer a personality that is different from the kardebolet, i’m just not, i understand you perfectly, i think that we we choose everything here for yourself in a certain way and obviously not focusing on any mass trends, but... i’m just interested to know how you perceive the fact that cinema really influences this mass culture in such a way, and this is good, but this well, this is normal, this is the norm , they have a good influence, these are the waves, today this,

tomorrow this, but on the broad masses, on people who themselves do not develop personal understanding, personal style and individuality, well, that’s how you look at it... .one same style, it can change in waves our perception towards it, for example, before people in tracksuits were considered representatives of a certain environment, but they were marginalized , everyone tried to avoid them, now all the fashionable cool guys wear tracksuits, where they wear them, unfortunately, alla is everywhere, really, i i didn’t see it, sometimes in the most inappropriate places.

the packs that are still coming in, yes , in such waves too, that is, then no, then everyone suddenly dresses in the same thing, then suddenly they all take off, but what do you think, is it beautiful, or is it still so strange

borrowing from another depends on the context, everything depends on the context. len, what has fascinated you lately from cinema, in terms of the aesthetics of the picture, i’m probably quite minimal here. film advisor , i love old movies, there is a movie that i love very much, and from time to time i just watch it, so, well, there’s a conditional mood for love, i definitely need to watch it once a year, preferably. on the big screen, my friends and i order this opportunity to include it in the cinema, because colors, music, pictures, rhythm , everything, i need it like air at some point, and such films, there are a certain number of them, but i can’t say that i’m watching with greed, i’m following what ’s happening , that is, i watched , you know, some must-have series or movies...

you know, i’m a film eater, a devourer, i’m generally a devourer of everything great, and in order to understand what you like, you need to watch everything, all the fashion shows, because you won’t see anything more fantastic than performances, for example, margiela’s last show, well, just fantastic, but it’s impossible to imagine a better theater, right away. pushes your imagination, excites some of your further

steps, this is very cool, always, but how do you think the canons of beauty have changed , what have we come to today, how different is it all from the last century, what are such bright markers of today , i can quickly say, for example, i am a girl who was born in a period when there was no longer a woman in a man’s suit, there was already a woman. well, that is, as it were for me, this is not an exclusively men’s wardrobe item. i no longer have the concept of a men’s shirt or shirt, men’s trousers, i buy a lot of vintage clothes , i’m just a fan of all the possible vintage clothes, and i buy a lot of some old men’s collections, because there are clothes for me, it suits me, i feel great in it, or it doesn’t suit me, i don’t like it and i put it off, and i remember this very well in childhood, my mother, it reminds me of surgut, but that is, not... the most trendy place where you can find some cool things there, but

mom, she was a super fashionista, that is , she sewed some things for herself, she always admired her, how beautifully she dresses, a lot of hers are from the eighties and i still have some embroidered jackets, wide belts, and i saw this fashion, and the eighties, well, the nineties, these are totally men's clothing in a women's wardrobe, these are trousers, these are broad shoulders. and jackets, yes, that is, what was in popular culture in the eighties, in russia it was still the nineties, yes, a little late, these boots look like men’s, a little like military ones, they also appeared, then i remember. these are not lymshits and tatyana gevarkyan, today we are talking about female beauty, with me are makeup artist elena krygina and actress allagalova. len, we touched on the topic of how appropriate this or that makeup is in different cultures. tell me how not to make a mistake and how

girls really should wear makeup correctly so as not to look, well, funny, stupid, funny, stupid - this is also not always bad, yes, it’s a question of self-expression, a question always, how you feel, that is , here is a professional makeup artist, he can paint you on your face alone 30 very beautiful, according to the canons, some kind of golden ratio, inspired by, i don’t know, ancient egypt or... but for the middle east or for i don’t know there in japan , that is, modern makeup artists can even draw a speeding train on your face now, there are no limits, right, right, and they can select for you an endless amount of these foundations and some kind of packaging of this endless cosmetics, but if you don’t comfortable if you look in mirror and you say, oh, well, it’s beautiful, of course, but it’s not me, it’s all - it doesn’t make any sense, it doesn’t matter, that is, makeup. first of all, and in general the whole image is one in which you can sit and

not think about the fact that i don’t know how you should sit, how they will look at you, what they will think of you, some kind of well, concentration on this, yes, that is , what we call an image, this is an image where everything is combined with each other, this is when you realize that this is all an ensemble, yes, what advice can you give to people who, for example, have there is no way to contact a professional makeup artist. look somehow fresher, better, with age the natural blush that children have is lost , perhaps the sparkle in the eyes becomes not so bright, the iris itself is not so juicy green or juicy wait, there is a remedy that can add this brightness , makeup, for example, little tricks, yes, the eyebrows are not so thick, the oval

of the face is not so clear, that is, we have some series of, let’s say, well, points in which we understand that... when... that's when i for example, i really liked myself, uh, they are no longer there, and yes, i like myself with my inner state, with my new kind of maturity, wisdom, but i would like to improve my appearance a little from that period, then this would be the first turn foundation, because it removes pigmentation , it evens out the tone, it hides nasolabial folds, dark circles under the eyes, the oval of the face becomes clearer, in moderation and suitable for a specific skin type, for a specific face, in shade, in texture. well let's just say on request, blush, yes, it can be cream blush, let’s say, i take cream blush as a priority, because they are always livelier , they are easier to apply cream sizes, lighter, much lighter, well, in principle, now the main trend is very such beautiful , sleek, polished skin, and no matter

how old you are, we all want beautiful, sleek, polished skin, this trend largely came to us from the korean market, yes, that is, when... just a little bit with a moist glow, and such with a girlish blush, the main thing is that he corresponded to the natural blush, yes , that is, you can pinch yourself on the cheek so that it appears, you can see there as a shade of mucous membranes, for example, yes, it looks like mucous lips, the eyes are brighter in a second, the face is rested, straight, well, you like yourself, mood super, and where the mood is super, then it’s a good day, and then he wants it.

this is the color of the lips, i remember i had a meeting with olive shadmizon, this is a man who is such, well, a makeup guru, old school, french, he is so quite impressive frenchman, greskely was also doing his makeup, we talked to him and he’s just insistent, he doesn’t care about these modern agendas about the fact that i’m a woman, i do what i want, no one tells me anything, he says everything, a woman has no right to go out on the street with...

well, look, their elbows are all so dry and i understand that i don’t even look at it at all, where did he see models in beautiful dresses on the catwalk of these beautiful, fragile girls? he saw their dry elbows, he is probably a professional show director, he has truth deformation, he just sees, i always look at it, look, always, what else do you pay attention to, exactly in appearance, well, firstly, nikolai zabolotsky has already said all about this, yes, a vessel in which there is emptiness or

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