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this song that made an indelible impression on me, here it is with me, all my life, when i hear it, there is a harmonica, do you remember the offensive, well, how is it , now i have a little reminder,
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not too, i heard the beatles, i don’t know , that this beatles energy is straight away, this is such a goosebump, and yes, i call it rocken roll, this is this goosebump, because i got it from the songwriters, when bortkevich sang alexandrina, how to pronounce it correctly with belarusian, and betly entered firmly, i want to say that i remember yours fiftieth anniversary, because you released this record for it? i released it earlier, it was even called differently, and then i added another song that was not included in the previous edition, so to speak, so i did it in ninety-six, so i just thought, why not, i’m alone once for courage there was a multi-track tape recorder, i sang the song he, and there were sing-alongs, i always always got a kick out of these sing-alongs, i... really loved
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all sorts of these backings myself and not only but in general, that is, in general myself this choral culture is so the right one, i loved it very much, i took part in it a lot, even in those days in ensembles, so i sang these three voices, first put on the theme and guitar, all this is all, and my guys are so into...
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tape and we we recorded these songs, we enjoyed this procession after work, moreover, we come from tour and go straight to the studio at night, our studio was very similar, we had a base in the hospital, and there was an assembly hall, a small hall, and we we became friends with the head of the hospital, a very good man, a good man, so he gave us keys and he rehearsed at night , they recorded a microphone there in this assembly hall, i bought a microphone, everything, everything that was needed, and we recorded these few songs, i sang everything there myself, i because i realized that there was no one to sing with , i looked around me, one of them taught german at school, the third didn’t study a damn thing there at all, and so on, that is, no, so i’d rather do everything myself and i bek, i drank it all away, so it turned out so unique, well, for at least for me,
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the pipes there who listened to jazz-rock there in chicago, so i have already begun to acquire these masterpieces from a slightly different story , that is, i began to enrich myself musically, so i felt oh, this is cool, but still they are the most dear, you know, as they say, they say, the music that you fell in love with in your youth is the soundtrack for your whole life , of course, this is an amazing phrase, i don’t remember who it was.
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said, here, but i absolutely, a good phrase does not age, but changes its author, a good one, you know, the central bank of ukraine of the first tranche of the russian federation. yanukovych does not understand that the oligarchs sensed his weakness and are playing a serious game maidan, i need to go to the maidan, the people are waiting for me, yanukovych’s prospects are heading towards zero, the only way out for him is to take a tough position, to fight back, big changes are coming here. ukraine will be renewed, up to 1000 people took part in the action, mostly activists of the nationalist party freedom, 10 thousand, no less, well, great, spread this topic on social media, transfer it through
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the maidan, the premiere, from monday on the first. ukraine, c-united states of america, if something doesn’t suit us, we will...
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is it connected with girls or performers? what is your melody of love? are you absolutely right about that? one, one melody, it’s very hard to name one, it’s difficult, from one of ours, i was in the mid-seventies then, my clear little star, flowers, flowers, well, probably flowers and partly songwriters, they existed, were in my life , here, but everything else was not there, especially, not to mention the officialdom, there are those there, i remember, i remember, yes, yes, you know, yes, we simply denied it. you and i are the same age, therefore, we later, we began to realize later that this is all the same, i have absolutely the same story, because magomayev and healy, kristallinsky everything, i heard, knew, but fell in love with all my heart much later, i understand what great melodies were written, then
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how it was performed, how great it was done, i absolutely agree with myself, here, you know what else i wanted to tell you, that about this time - i can’t wait to ask how you got there, because i remember six young , yes, i got there, this is your first team, yes there was, yes, six young people - these are six young people - this is vitaly kleiot, who is a famous jazz musician, known in narrow circles, there was a group of six people , why are there six young people, six vocalists, and six vocalists, and there was a brass band there, well, everything was as it should be, and the six of us were dressed separately from everyone else. the accompanying cast, like six of us, so they took me then, now they call it a casting, for an audition, so i won, and i was invited by grinny the angleless, you know him, and grisha, and we are from the same city, yes a cruise, then a cruise, they hired him there
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as a guitarist, klinot was looking for guys not spoiled by the soviet country, with matvienko, when the meeting took place or many years later, it was probably november or december of the year eighty-five, that was the seventy-eighth when i then joined , yes, in eighty -eighty-five, when the forest song had already fallen apart, litvin called me to rondo, you’re in rondo, even you, listen, but in rondo, as if he called me to rondo, we rehearsed for a long time, flew to sakhalin, for some reason there find it a month, sanya ivanov was already there, no not yet, it’s not...
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he said hello to the song and left and hello to the song for the autograph, he says, here matvey needs to get out, i’m coming in now, and so...
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or a year, then it all fell apart again, hello to the song, and there’s more hello there were songs, a song was made , there were fish like this, we were rehearsing at the piano and playing, there were no words for the lyubers yet, dusya the unit and a couple of other songs, you have the first song of any old man makhno, if i’m not mistaken, old man makhno was recorded first, she is not the first, the first note, i remember that i was on television collided with oleg golovko. with matvey , they are there with igor matveenko, they went through the music editors, they tell me:
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look, and there is dusya’s unit, well, these were the first few songs, love love love, this, well listen, it was like that, in- first, this is saun, such a presentation in russian, so you know , so i want to tell you that if you are like the voice of the earth, you probably know, if barigvadze is in georgia, then your timbre, when i play with a track on the biard and not god forbid i'll break out. we're watching our podcast, melody of my life, today nikolai rastorgolkh talks about his main melodies, about what is pleasant to remember, thinking out loud what kind of music born in our country could be used. world demand, this is something that is based on tradition, but in
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lyubey’s signature style there is an absolute primacy for the whole world. when i attended your fiftieth birthday, i asked you: kolya, what is the brightest moment in your musical career? i love this story, i would like to listen to it again from the first source, like this, this is not an important city today, what matters is that this is the area, what? a microphone of some sort of lips and i was hit
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with a strong electric shock on the lips by a microphone, well , it’s natural that a normal russian person speaks at this moment, and a short word , the microphone is turned on throughout the entire area , this word scatters with a reverb, but there was applause, the people perked up, he immediately immediately , this this. to ours, this is our way , i remember you said so, the brightest moment, it came out, hit with a current, i gave a short curse word starting with the letter b, and 20 minutes of avasy, endless, what a success, it turned out like everything just, no, well, i’ll explain this to you, i would have hit someone else and no one would have said anything, they would have booed, this is ours, you know, this is at the level of nature, from everyone who uh? they love this real russian timbre of yours, thank you very much for having our permission
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, i’ll remember one moment, i mean i’m writing a song dusi microphone unit, matvey is sitting in the corner on a chair, and quite automatically he ’s trying to sing with me, well, without talking to himself, you say, and there is one modulation, the second, you speak, and my house is already up there. yes, in my opinion, he did too, he began to feel sick, he started to feel sick, he couldn’t get enough, that’s it, he became sick, it was so obvious.
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performance, because we have known each other for a long time, we are friends and it’s all very sincere for real, i probably said from childhood, because elusive avengers, you just whisper to us, we will come to the rescue, yes, from there the civilian is blazing, good kitty , this is sunset, do you remember your whole childhood, this is the four, i remember when... when i watched this film in zhukovsky, i was 10 years old, it was sixty-seven, it just came out , that’s just it, and i was there in a huge line, the ticket cost 10 kopecks, remember, this is really one of the most important films of ours, ours, our childhood, it’s all bullshit, neulovsky, i’m an artist, and it means that nerves
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are bad, maybe i’ll do something dirty, maybe you ’ll do it.
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please stand up for a second, let me hug you, i have the same one, oh well , yes, i swear, i come, come to me, well, that’s how it should be, and there are billions of their songs, so we share the same blood, that means , you know, wow, i
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i always explain it like this, there’s this tumult, in principle, here, but it’s brilliant, of course , then, then someone said, said such a legend that makart wrote it because the beatles broke up, so he’s in honor, not in honor, no, it was on led, it was on led, but it is considered the last album and that he wrote it in memory of their journey together, that it was all over, a long winding path, yes, a long winding path, it all came to this this, unfortunately... the result is that everyone has gone in different directions, i have this this batch, of course, it was very sad, it is incredibly melodic in itself, you know, you brought it out right now, i had a similar moment associated with bedlams, lenya leikin, our wonderful leningrad master of clownery, so poignant,
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he worked at the daley circus, he told me this story, he said: valera came to us when this tragedy happened in new york on september 11, then george harrison was still alive and macartney came, everything was canceled, and the performance of the desouley circus as a bright and how victory over all terrorism in the world was left, and macartney and harrison came to this performance, where leni leikin was working in las vegas, and... i ran up, bought some kind of notebook in the hall, lekin said, ran up to the first page that came to me, opened it, asked them to sign it, showed me a photo
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, he said, here’s the case, what i’m saying is, well, the ringastar also needs an autograph, so that you have a full betlov arsenal autograph, you know, returning to john lenn in
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one of the interviews, he once said , he was asked, this is what the true one was motivation, so you took the cavern club there and so on, says that there should be a lot of girls, girls, what is all this for, well, so that we with guitars, we with... they are different for everyone, the melody of joy, although if it hits here , then in general it will be , but this one that always lifts the mood, like
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nikolai ratarguev says: i always hear everything is fine with me, you know, when on the road you turn on the singing, but on the highway, yeah, you turn it up loud, that’s the feeling of what -some kind of inner drive so crazy, some... some kind of of course, they have a lot of energy, well, let's start with where they started, in fact, they had the first one, and well, the melody there, the riff is brilliant, the riffs are amazing, and then i really love the fourth album there.
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so, well, just a positive attitude for the future, a few words to the fans. i want to say that today’s program , to which valer invited me, is completely impromptu, this is how it will go, this is how the card will fall, as they say here, and
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that’s why, to be honest, i’m very touched by these all sorts of memories, but this the coincidence of long and winding road, this is brilliant, it says a lot, so i want - of course, to wish the audience, pull out all the very best from your past. touching, this is always with you , it always warms the soul, and everyone be happy, many of the songs you perform, i don’t know that igor matvienko wrote them, everyone thinks that the song is about a horse, as they say, many people are sure, that this is an absolutely folk melody, when the people's artist of russia nikolai tells me, cancel it, in your case it's absolutely organic, because who then, if nicolas? so i congratulate you on this, it’s worth a lot, but i want to tell you, with all responsibility, we are very happy people with you, because the melodies that we remember... for us, well,
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comparable to air, it was air , when we were young, young and touched the betls, this is the time that i consider the most interesting in the life of mankind, these 60s and 70s everyone lived after a difficult war with hope for the best, and the sixties, when children born in time of war, steel young people, when there was an incredible ... surge of art, and not only here, but everywhere, all over the world, italian cinema, there french, take off, you know, and we have a huge number of magnificent songs, songs and films, me, for example , there’s a zigzag of luck, i can watch it as many times as you want, i’m watching, that’s it, i won’t change you, you won’t cheat on me either, someone will covet you, but what did
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he say? i’m a straightforward person, so i say right away, since i love you very much, thank you for being the same, thank you for inviting me, ok, straight, well, listen, well, with sro, well, it ’s straight, well, there’s no such thing, there must be thousands of songs in the drum, it plays like that, it tells you which one. hello, here is dmitry bak, we are now having the next episode of a literary podcast, let them not talk, let them read, this is a podcast dedicated to anything, as long as it is anything related to literature, especially since we are just at that time of year ,
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when... maslenitsa, when winter gives way to spring, that’s why we are talking today about maslenitsa customs and not only about maslenitsa, and in general about the folk element in culture, which is why we have a wonderful guest today, he is a folklorist, ethnographer, folklore collector, musician, folk music performer, producer sergei nikolaevich starostin, hello, sergei nikolai, hello, very glad to see you, i’m sure that our conversation will be interesting, but tell me first, how did it happen that a person who has clear prospects for a career as a professional musician in the field of classical music, a person who graduated conservatory and so on , how did this miracle happen to you when you became interested in folk music, i understand that the conservatory also has corresponding departments, but still these are different things or...
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well, these are different things and the same thing but by and large, a conservatory still implies the highest degree of achievement of some kind of mastery, just folk culture remains a little on the sidelines, what can we say about the moscow conservatory, there is no folk department, there folk culture, folk art is represented by the main way as an accompanying discipline, well , as if for... general information, as for me personally, then - acquaintance with folk song, firstly, occurred within my own family, and since they were village people brought up in this environment, from what places, well, my father is the tambov region, and my mother is the tula region, yeah, so they met after the war, well, as a matter of fact, the world appeared, and at home we have, at least within the
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limits of some kind of family, family meetings, holidays, joint ones, we heard songs, an accordion sounded, i took it all in, but then, naturally, i switched to the conservatory , this whole story of what class, what instrument is your conservatory, at the beginning i generally sang, that is, it was vocals, i sang at first in the choir , at the conservatory i entered the orchestral department to study clarinet. as if i were playing this beautifully orchestrated instrument in a symphony orchestra and so on, but this unexpected event happened, as if for me, i went in the first year after entering the summer with theorists, with my acquaintances on the expedition , music theorists, yes, i mean, those who study the theory of music, something happened that probably should have happened, what was prescribed for me
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by fate happened here...
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notes, notes, chants, yes, composer's, some... then the quirks, his peculiarities as a composer, and how from this... they form some kind of their theoretical systems, yes, how and what this composer wanted, how he thought, and so on, but these are all well-known topics in my opinion, in this sense, traditional culture is not something so that it is unpredictable, but it is of very great interest with many secrets not yet revealed, but it naturally does not think about its theoretical description, and therefore, although there also exists the concept of poetic form, so to speak, the structure of the text and so on, this is everything is there, but it is in some depth hidden somewhere in the consciousness and is transmitted
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orally, do as i do, sing as i do, and what regions, provinces, places, localities have you traveled over the years, when you yourself have become travel, at first these were expeditions. region, penza region, then my independent expeditions began, these are tver, smolensk, pskov, kursk, orlovsk, that is, practically all of russia, well, not all, but all of them were beyond the urals, the european part of russia, no, not, not beyond i haven’t been to the urals, nor to our special severus, nor to siberia with expeditions, yeah, well, anyway, this is a very vast space, of course, and i see you have just a little book. which is dedicated to kursk songs, yes, as i understand it, we will turn to it again, please tell me here we are talking about maslenitsa, and we have a detailed conversation ahead, but it is clear why maslenitsa is in the center, there is a lot of
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theatricality here, and so on and so forth, that is, not only singing, but a very wide range of customs, everyday customs, cuisine, education, the interior of the house, with its appearance , with one whole theme, which is connected, well, with the decor of the objects that fill this house, utensils, all sorts of things, and so on, these are all self-sufficient things, that is, one cannot say that here i am i want to understand the song, i started singing, learned how others sing and joined in, you need to understand calendar rituals and customs, but you need to understand how people live, at what moments they sing songs, this... classes, there is about the kitchen and so on, but let's enter, you mentioned very different maybe a little more detail about
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there are a lot of things here , we’ll talk about a lot of instruments, but after all , we know stradivarius guarneri, and omate and other great masters of the staple craft there, and... how folk instruments were traditionally made, these were some masters special and how this is happening now , does all this exist, what kind of instruments are they, you love this too, i know that, well, yes, you mentioned wonderful violin makers, but for sure it will be a discovery for many now for many of our listeners, yes, if i i will say that the violin is also a full-fledged and full-fledged russian folk instrument, unfortunately, this is not enough. where it is mentioned, here, but the culture of the game of paper clips is there in the smolensk, pskov, tver regions, in the south of russia in the kursk region, among the cossacks, for example, yes, in don, the violin was quite
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an instrument that existed, a respected instrument, where it came from, after all, it was made by craftsmen themselves, it was made by craftsmen, they knew how to do it, and there were such craftsmen. not very similar, well , somewhat reminiscent in shape of traditional violins, yes, but it is clear that with a lesser degree of some kind of accuracy. folk music has not been removed from life, i
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think all the time, perhaps, that it will not seem right to you, that this is music that, in its extreme, is similar to the music that invented by the pythagoreans, inaudible, absolute , yes, which always sounds, not from the beginning and to the end of the concert, but always sounds, i generally believe that music is like a language, like... a phenomenon is born, or at least, yes, he was born with a person in his womb, yes, since he had a direct connection, these sounds had a direct connection with the mother’s womb with the mother, yes, who, as it were, inherited this language, and accordingly, yes, yes, yes, passed it on to her own, this means that the developing intrauterine baby has these biological, space, i don’t know, any kind.
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who lived for a long time, yes, they talked about it in such a way that you need to live as long as you want, that’s when you understand that you’ve done everything, that’s how wise you are, now you let go, yes, yes, yes, yes, when you understand, that you have done everything, you no longer owe this world anything, you can leave, then you yourself, with god’s help, yes, you just stop this clock and leave - this
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, on the contrary, is what unites musical culture with the cosmos, with nature, with biology. that's exactly why in the author's section, i'm now i want to read a poem of exactly this kind, i remind you that in the author’s section the presenter does one of three things, either he shows an old book from his library, that is, i show an old book, or... or he quotes some phrase from the classics, or reads a poem, today there will be a third version of russian lyrics, this is vladislav khodosevich, a russian classic, of course, but just in case i will say that this is a series of the poet’s library, an excellent publication, not every publication can and should be picked up, there are random editions , unverified, here this is the library of the poet vladislav hadoseevich, a collection of his heavy lyre, and a poem called music, a little long, but wonderful all night long. there was a snowstorm, but the morning is clear
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, the sunday laziness is still wandering through the body, at the annunciation on the banks the mass has not yet passed, i go out into the courtyard, how small everything is, and the house, and the smoke curling over the roof, silvery frosty steam, its pillars rise from - behind the houses under the very dome of the sky, as if the wings of giant angels, and my portly neighbor, sergei, suddenly turned out to be so small ivanovich, he’s wearing a sheepskin coat. there is firewood in felt boots, a time of famine, the turn of the tenths and twenties, this is what we are talking about in moscow, the firewood around him is scattered in the snow, straining with both hands , he raises his heavy cleaver over his head, but knock-knock-knock, blows sound softly, the sky, snow and cold, the sound is absorbed by the neighbor, and hello, i’m also arranging my firewood, he’s knocking, i’m knocking, but soon i get tired of stabbing, i straighten up and say: “wait a minute, as if the music, sergei ivanovich stops work,
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raises his head slightly, hears nothing, but he listens diligently, it must have seemed to you, he says, that you, yes, listen, you can hear it so clearly, he listens again, well, maybe they’re burying a military man, but there’s something i can’t hear, but i don’t let up, have mercy, now it’s completely clear, and the music is coming, as if from above, cello and harp, maybe i’m playing well, they’re playing, don’t knock, and my poor sergei ivanovich stops pounding again, he doesn’t hear anything, but he doesn’t want to disturb me, and he’s annoyed tries not to show it, it's funny.
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how to restore normal heart rhythm, about it’s great to live about many other things in the program, on monday, on the first, i remind you that i’m dmitry bak, we have another episode of the podcast, let them not talk, let them read, but today we talk, let them also listen to music, because today we we are talking about maslenitsa, about maslenitsa customs , and i think we will continue the conversation just moving on to maslenitsa, and what is connected with maslenitsa, what kind of music is played, where, how? you know, this is maslenitsa, but it seems to me, yes , in the russian, at least tradition, well
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, the slavic tradition, if we still take both belarus and ukraine, this is of course the most important stage. there are expeditions on the calendar, many expeditions around the european part of russia in which i participated, even though some of the folk singers there no longer remembered many of the songs, but they always remembered maslenitsa, that is, maslenitsa wedding, for example, yes , these are some two very significant moments in the life of a traditional person. and of course, one of the main characters of maslenitsa are young couples, both actually married and just boys and girls. why are they so in attention? yes, because all this is a direct legacy of the agricultural calendar. yeah, that
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is, the earth must wake up, we must wake it up, before fertility. yes, yes, definitely, yes, we should give her a hint that it’s spring. soon, let's wake up and we are doing everything to get in touch with this earth, in general there are many, many things, and most importantly, these young couples who become the main, main characters of maslenitsa are a lot of young people, which means well then it’s as if they got married last year, here are all the ups and downs associated with this, that is, this girl got married and lives in the house of her so... so to speak lover, well not lover, husband, young husband, yes, she’s not was at her parents’ house , during there, if they had a wedding in the fall, then it’s as if by spring six months had already passed and by maslenitsa, she of course misses, she of course misses home, these are the plots of these maslenitsa songs, they are all like would be
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worked on, in addition to the fact that maslenitsa, of course, there are a lot of songs dedicated to maslenitsa, but it could be that... and we waited for maslenitsa, waited for lyuli, waited, we went out to the hill , went out and poured oil on the hill, watered it, sprinkled it with cheese... .they sprinkled the pea, sprinkled it, and lyuli, sprinkled it, our pea , be boiling, our girls be gurly, our men or boys are quarrelsome and so on, they weren’t allowed on the hill there, our girls, in general, it’s...

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