they started looking, looking at these statistics , in what year they played, in what year the ussr national team played against cuba, and romantsev scored a goal correctly, i say, well, no, i say, can you imagine what kind of team cuba had, what if oleg ivanovich romantsev scored a goal, we made fun of him, well , of course, you nailed it, oleg ivanovich, and why, because oleg ivanovich scored a little, of course, oh, it was funny, i remembered this cube during those 2-3 days there, of course, good, well, cuba cuba, look, you, you didn’t see this match with cameroon, apparently you didn’t watch it either. no,

i looked with the camera, looked, and moscow looked , just whether the national team needs matches now, well , i think they do, another thing is that i was opposed to that, i always said that what was at first, yes, when there was an expanded list, there they called 50, 40 people, i was against it, because i didn’t understand whether they were needed, why they were needed, to come and say that he is a national team player, that ’s also not allowed, you have a game with kyrgyzstan, they called 20 people, that’s it, they played, they all left, without noise, without pathos, without that... list, but not against the match , well, of course, of course, not against the match, of course , you need to play, in any case you have to play, because there are these dates and for players for national teams, they play in europe and what will you do, you you won’t just sit, you also played, if there is an opponent, they played, why not, but why are you refusing karpin to check all the players now you can check them, but what to do, it’s clear that there are no official matches then no, why use those you know well, maybe, well look at those whom you have no idea at all, who and how you have no idea, it’s not like that with us.

in our championship, a lot of football players are shown playing every day, you can watch the game 100 times , i don’t know, ural is with someone, that’s right, you show him 10 times in one case he’s in the urals, and another thing you’re working with him , well, that’s right, you called once, but why call 40 for the next training camp , you know, i was in this, well, we went through all this, okay, why did you go to study to become a coach, as they say, everyone went, i went, everyone went i let's go, you have a course of star football players there now, and sergei ivanovich is recruiting. it’s beautiful, no, really , you might not have done it, i might not have done it, i might not have done it, you know, to be honest, in recent years, especially the only question, it’s probably one of the most popular, yes, when when, alexander, when will you lead some team, yeah, so i say, well, i can’t lead it, because i don’t have this piece of paper, so i decided, i decided to go, why not, that is, do you see yourself as a coach, well, as a coach? headquarters, yeah, in some kind

, well, like me, but i don’t see you on the coaching staff, i see you as the head coach, well, like the coaching staff, well, you’ll sit second or third, well, many sit, many, well many sit , many sit, and even more so in today’s time den, you can sit not first, second third, but you can sit seventh, eighth, ninth, yes, let’s look at the coaching staff in st. petersburg, for example, yes, or in spartak, look in my favorite spartak, there, when there, when a goal is scored , they jump up, i don’t know, there are probably 20 people there, they probably jump up, 20, and you think, who are so-and-so, is it them? everyone on the coaching staff, you know, beskov used to sit on the podium, there were two people with him, and one of them was sitting downstairs, now he’s jumping around like his obascal, and there’s about 15 other people with him, probably, i’m thinking, who are they, and not football players, yes, we’ll come back to spartak again, let’s talk about training, how it happens, you come, sit down for the first quart, well, that’s what it is, no, we come, we have a good one, a good squad, a squad, i can say in football , yes, a good squad, i think there are 20 of us there, yes, well, plus or minus, i don’t know, all the players are former footballers, yes. yes, our group, yes, our group

, well, i’m kind of the oldest, the oldest, because i already had a history with admission, yes, well, that’s about 12 years ago, i already entered, well, i just physically couldn’t then come back, there was a rumor that you dropped out of training then because of the early start of the actual classes, he said that i wouldn’t do it no, i quit, i didn’t let alone quit, i didn’t, because i couldn’t leave in the first place from spain, yes, this is back in those days, i am from spain, when i arrived, i entered. and then i just couldn’t, when they told me that i had to come there almost every month, i said, no, i can’t, i can’t do that, i couldn’t, that’s it, but here i am now here, so we arrive, sit down and sit, sit and sit, exchange opinions , talk, watch , we also have such a big, beautiful screen, yes, we watch, some matches, we watch some moments, we watch, well, well, fun, interesting, again, i'm coming back why, after all, all the guys are football players, that’s why. this plus everyone played at a good

level, many played in the national team, such a wonderful atmosphere, yes, what helps, what helps, what can you be taught? well, there is definitely nothing in football, just like many guys, what can be taught there to yura zhirkova, sashka samedov, and romka shirokova or arshavin denisovo, yes, but they also went through all this, it is clear that everyone had a different level of football , yes, some are taller, some are lower, some were working out, but still very tall, well, of course, of course, you had the most powerful expression about the internship in orenburg, doograsya could learn a lot by working with me, head coach of arenburg, this was said seriously, yes, seriously, it was serious, yes. because when they called me they said that there was a rumor that orenburg wanted to invite you for an internship, well, i immediately found out, well, i didn’t find out, i knew that the coach there was spanish, yes , i don’t know who it is true, but i know he's a spaniard, that's why i say, of course, he can learn a lot, bridge-loving, of course,

wow, i have so much experience in football that dygrasy doesn’t have it, so in the end you were called to orenburg, no, in the end no, but what about internships? such a situation, look, you don’t have to go through it in some team in the premier league, you can go through it in the second, in the first, so i choose or will choose what is more convenient for me, first of all, more convenient in terms of location, there are also an interesting story about the internship evgeniy koleshin, who not long ago worked in football, remember how great he worked in akron, and knocking out large teams from the russian cup, he went on an internship with igor larionov in hockey. that by the way, you can see from the torpedo that it plays like a torpedo , well, how would you go there just to watch

for your coaching experience, i agree in principle, just like igor, yes he went and we know that igor came to england very often and watched the premier league clubs, yes he watched and i constantly talked to igor about this topic . by the way, it was very cool that he did it because of course. in spartak, well, now the season is over, well , this season, yes, the off-season is over, one of the main questions, yes, a breakthrough, a failure , many call it a failure, yes, i say , yes no, there is no failure of spartak, spartak is in fifth place, according to the results of spartak, i think that it will be in

the top three, although it is also controversial, yes, because that now many people are saying who will be in the top three, yes, that’s why i’m at spartak, as i said, spartak to everyone that surrounds spartak... he should be in the top three, definitely simple and here, and bascal is not abascal, at least there’s morena , someone else pepe pedro is there, i don’t care , they should be there, well, spartak, well, yeah therefore, the fact that they are not there, and very often in this top three and medalists, so this is the problem that not all football people there are surrounded by the coaching staff or in the team management in general, there in general , it’s related to this, you think, well, i think so, how -it’s still connected, you know. it’s harder to say, because after all, i’m with spartak, well, you look, i understand, but you watch how baskal chooses the starting lineup, how he changed it constantly, and then yes, not once, not once, yes, neither there was never the same lineup, two games in a row, this is clear, i spoke about this and many said, yes, well, when you have a choice of 25 people, of course it confuses him,

it scares him, because this is the one no, stability is one of the most important parts of any team, but look if you take some good one. the team, well, there are one or two substitutions, three maximum , and if there’s an injury, if somewhere there’s something like, well, not six or seven, but for her it happens all the time in this, and the other thing is that he has a simple answer to this question, when he has a bench and a spare one, as i say, a simple example, yes, here i am sitting, for example, on the bench they are playing 11, and then i look at the spare trees and sticks, i think who to let out and i don’t know, but with him, yeah , let’s do this let's do this, let's do that, let's do that because there is a choice, you understand, so spartak is at the top if i understand.

no last name no first name comes to coach a club like spartak moscow, i said that then, remember that there... spartak will be in the top three, what do you think? i said this before we started season, spartak should be in the top three , yeah, yes, but it should - i don’t see an advantage, for example, for dynamo over spartak, i don’t see lokomotiv having an advantage over spartak, well , if i were in spartak, we were probably in the top three for sure , you are being modest there for the champion. no, the situation is like this, we, we are not claiming first place yet. do you see any preconditions for a new

champion in russia? well, i saw these prerequisites even after the first two or three rounds, when i said that this year it’s clear that the intrigue begins and we’re already there in the winter during the break or in six or seven rounds, we won’t say that zenit will be the champion, in principle this is all happening. another thing is that i think hardly anyone thought that krasnodar would finish this one in first place, after all, i thought that zenit would be in first. well, of course it can, why can it, by the way, there is no need to reset these teams that we named, yes, which are third, dynamo will compete for the championship, well, i would venture to suggest that both dynamo and spartak can impose a fight, and spartak can impose struggle, maybe krasnodar, well, maybe , well, i say, i’m very...

and foreigners come, now milarad mazhich, and someone else we remember were there before, but now var is there to help them, but it seems strange such a var. right , but this is to help them, yes, so that people in general can just sit and they draw a line for you,

and i don’t know, and increase the size of the ear, it is like this, they enlarged it, it became like this, yes, the leg became like this there in forty-one, it became forty-seven, yes, they do everything to you anyway, they are wrong, but this is again it comes back that football is such a game , the human factor will still always come first, it will always be, because in detail or there are these nuances, what is the problem of refereeing, i always said, if you looked at it like that, yes, i refereeing is, that 90 there 5% they have not played football, it is difficult for them to recognize these nuances on which many game situations depend, when i am running, for example, after you, that’s right, i even pinched you once, that’s right, i pinched you, but i i'll see it, the judge won't see it, you know, but it will play a role, because i pinched you, yes, i looked at the finger, and there he was, somewhere else somewhere, somewhere a leg, somewhere an arm, you know, so this is a difficult situation, by the way, we have had several cases now in in our training one day a judge came to us. the judge just started to say, well, this is part, part

of our training there, yes, what do you think, he was in about 10 minutes, he wanted to leave, they just didn’t let him, because he needed to be there for 3 hours, you know , but he wanted to leave, he realized that here he would simply not be able to he couldn’t answer one football question, because when we told him, well, there shouldn’t be a penalty here, there shouldn’t be a violation, he still said yes. we are all 20 football players telling him that this is impossible, there is no red card, because he says how he stepped, i say, no, he didn’t, he’s here, look, this is it, they don’t know these nuances, okay , when you played, everyone knows perfectly well, you had the nickname king in spain, it was beautiful, who would you call now the king of russian football? no, yes, no one, not even close, wait, well, a little more, you’re not playing now, so what, well, at least a little for now, you already remember, i just recently came out, yes that’s it.

of the main players, not only the locomotive, but the national team, yes, but i think that he is the one who can really, he has natural data, it is nature that has awarded him these qualities that he must simply use them correctly and. .. i think that he will be able to use them, it’s good that miranchuk began to play, brother, yes, brother, good, because that at the beginning you remember in lokomotiv he did not play there in the reserves, what they released, released, he definitely should go there, there are a lot of guys, i always said that we have a lot, yes, when someone said that we don’t have or not a football country, there were such expressions , yes there, or someone said, but we do n’t have them, no, we have a lot of them, it’s just that what’s stopping them from opening up, or someone is stopping them from opening up,

that’s right, well, we we see, they exist, well, yes, let’s remember another young football player, he is always asked this question, it seems

to me that my son lives in spain, and this is exactly the same, but it’s ninety-six, ninety-seven, it’s just like mine, my sasha, sasha, my son, who also played football, played, but it turned out that way, fate worked out, so he didn’t continue further, so at the first stage there were a lot of questions, now there are fewer, now half of them are like that, i think he knows that this is no yes, no relation neither andrey doesn’t have anything to do with alexander, our podcast is called football not hockey, yeah, why is football not hockey? well, the fact is that football is a game with feet, and by the way, many people probably don’t know that this is probably the only game in the world where they play with feet, yes, the rest are always either hands or or other parts of the body, so this is not football hockey , from a psychological point of view, you can compare these two sports, you can compare, but there is a lot in general, you said that hockey is easier to play, i’m

right, at my age, at my age it’s easier, but not just me, now , and many guys who, by the way, you know. just what i said there 15 years ago, as you rightly said now, that it’s easier to play hockey, of course, it’s easier for me now, you ask them now, in five years they’ll tell you the same thing, of course it’s easier, you left, got dressed, getting dressed is hard, yes, getting dressed is hard, because it takes a lot of time, in terms of what everyone knows. i don’t have to go far, i can tell you this story: i got a serious injury when i was 18 years old, but then we had a cytologist, well, he is, and yes, where they took me there, and after the operation, i walked along the corridor, along the corridor, and the corridor is large, this one , and well, i walk, i walk there, i run into

this wall, where there are two offices of the chief doctors , and in the middle there is a big one like this, well, not like this, yes, this stand so. once there and the percentage ratio in my eyes so little by little up up up up up up up up up bang i stop in first place which sport in terms of injury risk is football football i'm so fir-trees after surgery 18 years old did a good 18 years old i say yes it can't be this is how you start your career, right? thank you very much for your time, we had alexander mostovoy, this is a football podcast, not hockey, on the first one, my name is denis kazansky, see you soon.

you are watching the podcast precious stories, my name is ekaterina varkan. today my guest is ekaterina obraztsova, director, honored artist of russia and granddaughter of sergei vladimirovich obraztsov. we thought so and decided to stay with sergei vladimirovich today in his memorial apartment. and i assure you that many things that we we will see and hear on television have never been voiced or shown. and so, in fact, he himself, the most famous for his doll tyapa, he himself said that the doll is the oldest child in the family. she appeared even before the birth of his own children, and he traveled all over the world throughout our country, always performed with this doll, and she was very loved in her time... they knew very well, sergei vladimirovich headed the theater when he was 30 years old , but he was not only involved in organizing the theater, he staged performances,

he invented individual characters, made dolls , he had solo concerts, or he performed at concerts and even performed in the st. george hall of the kremlin, in group concerts, and there he played puppet numbers, because he discovered a new genre, romances with dolls, like that there it was. here there are still such variants of this doll, living hands stuck through the fabric, two more variants, on these hands of sergei vladimirovich there were rings, in general, grandfather had amazing hands, such plasticity. i haven’t seen hands at all, probably never, that’s how it is here is his famous tyapa number, which is here on your screen, no one

can repeat it, because this is an amazingly virtuosic work of hands, which means that these kind of rings were used in this doll, and so that the shirt does not interfere, like an accountant , they dressed like this these are the little things, it means the shirt was removed so that the arms... were exposed, all this was on my grandfather, these two rings, somehow, when this number was not played, were given to me, and then i served as an artist in the sfera theater , played in these rings, garlita fashion, such a performance was, i madame chasen played, i was wearing these grandfather’s water rings. katya, i know that sergei vladimerovich divided things into... into two most important categories, yes, into necessary and necessary, necessary things are a chair, a table, a fork, a knife, and necessary is what is

necessary for the soul, without that it is impossible to live, that there will be imagination, and he always said, regarding his collection, which we will talk about later, that when i look at these things, i imagine how a child played with this doll, like in this mask... ... some ritual actions, it will be imagination, it will give rise to some ideas, and these things are necessary, i was called some time ago to the program “good morning by karina muromtseva”, and she and i talked about vessels in which, so to speak, some things, mostly boats are made by such craftsmen, i said that i know one house where there is a vessel in which there is a thing that, in addition to beauty, also has practical value, this is a decanter, a cockerel, i spent a lot. the glass maker says we don’t know the one that sergei vladimich had. what secret? the secret is that vodka was poured into this decanter, and part of this vodka ended up

in the cockerel, in my opinion, 50 g. and it was completely impossible to pour it out of the cockerel, only by the morning 50 g dripped from there for a hangover . we tried it with water, then the same thing happens. then a wonderful one, also one of my favorite things, a golden nightingale in the collection of sergei vladimirovich, today there are two nightingales, yes, but there were three of them, yes, he gave the third to nemirovich danchenko, vladimirs ivanovich, such a wonderful word, well, he sang it means we already have time, so we’ll tell you about him, there were three, one at...

everyone knew him at the poultry market, his name was, oh, vladimirovich came, there are many photographs of him at the poultry market, at the dacha he built

a dovecote. and there he had pigeons, and after some time, quite a long time, he discovered he was allergic to pigeons, which means he liked it terribly, he put it on the guests, showed the thermometer, look, i’m 36.6, now look , i go up to the dovecote, come back, 39, my mother and wife screamed at him terribly so that he would stop so he mocked his body, but he says: well, it’s interesting, how is it? well, in general - my mother always cleaned up after these pigeons, she felt sorry for my grandfather, just as she looked after the crocodiles, and where did the crocodiles come from, they lived in an apartment, crocodiles from america, they were small at first like this, they were given by chaliapin’s son, grandfather i studied with him at vkhutimas, then chaliapin went to america, not in america, and gave him two of these

crocodiles, which grew up. the huge ones were called tatosha and kakosha later lived in the palace of pioneers, in the theater they first lived in an apartment, then in the theater, and then they were placed there, although a swimming pool was built for them , yes, but they outgrew it in the palace, but sergei vladimirovich would be strange, he had a very large collection toys, it’s impossible for a puppeteer to live without toys, everything is made of clay and wood.

and we will say that these masks are not souvenirs, even the institute of africa was jealous of them, yes, they were bought, that is, they belonged to the leaders, or there were sorcerers of some kind, so to speak, tribes of different countries, peoples were bought, so to speak, in different places, that means he was very proud, that’s the first mask that he got, that means there’s a collection there in the corner.

museum, what happens at night, how the dolls move there, but it just made him laugh, he didn’t believe in it, and i believed in it in my youth, he laughed at me too, but still the feeling was very, especially over the drummer, what a feeling -strange ones, and another one, also quite a strange mask, heavy for me, which he received as a gift from the great juletta mazina. but also scary, he was friends with mazina, this it is known, this famous story, when julietta in mazina was asked what you liked most in moscow, she said: samples, that was the answer, well, the girl that katya had good taste, but there except, that means, in in general, these are completely personal, personal things and personal attachments, although what we

will talk about next would also be of personal interest. and ekaterina alekseevna, her mother-in-law, yes, this is empress catherine the second, she kept saying that you are at the mint and that means you are taking away work, you are so you do all this brilliantly, but sergei vladimich has such a unique thing, which means he has in the collection, and also a wonderful panorama of nevsky prospekt of st. petersburg, this is the mid-thirties, artist vasily sadovnikov, here we are showing fragments, this is such a huge roll, 16 m long, on

these wooden things it rotates, you can walk along the sky on one side, on the other, maybe on the other, and that means in some thirty-sixth year, a northern bee in bulgaria wrote that well... not only that at home there, so to speak, here are the windows, everything is written down, so there were still people recognizing each other, fashionistas and dandies, huddled among the fashionistas, which means our friend pushkin is there running across the nevsky ugoland church, but the people who saw this panorama at that time , they recognized themselves and their friends, it was very strong, this is generally a rare thing , there are very few of them, in fact there are very few of them, here is sergei mikhailovich nekrasov, my co-host, i consulted with him, he said that of course...

he brought them this is home, i realized that this is a very complex mechanism, i called my friend, i was such a magnificent master of puppets , a cartoon union, i also knew him very well, oleg masaynov, who began to understand this

mechanism, brought these monkeys to life, they are amazing, they open and close their eyes, play instruments, everything moves for them, they smile, this unique. absolutely like this, well, it’s basically an old machine gun, even barrel organs are classified as machine guns, this is such a story, just a discarded thing, which, well, this is also the 18th century, as far as i understand myself, probably i’ll just add it here, too, because sergei vladimovich had quite a lot of barrel organs, they are very beautiful, we can’t show them all, probably this is a tendency... because he started in the twenties, and he then he also remembered that there were people walking around, wandering puppeteers, artists , organ grinders, and this still youthful feeling was transferred to adulthood, he somehow paid

attention to them, remembered this youth, and thus they too very beautiful barrel organs appeared, acquired, unusual, but we can show one of them, we won’t show them all, but we can show one of them even in a working - in sound form, this is a barrel organ of the famous german master, for my studio, i don’t remember his last name now , but it’s very such a valuable barrel organ, well , who would doubt it, so we showed how... she is alive, katyusha, there was also this, the so-called napoleon table, the kind that decorates the living room, and this girl found it somewhere in an antique store in st. petersburg , the table, it was all tattered and painted brown

paint, like a leg, but grandfather liked the leg, and he took this table, looked at something, looked closely, saw that something was shining through, called... a kvar, who, a restorer, or rather, a restorer who somehow... then i washed it all away, it turned out that there were portraits of napoleon’s army, and it was done in the old way, like a decal, that’s the story, and here is napoleon, here is josephine, marshals, marshals, napoleonic, who is it, who could have done it, that means, order, or some, so to speak, french officer, then for the trophy. we they trophied it and it’s much more interesting, who painted it over, that means someone was scared , probably didn’t want these portraits of him to be seen, apparently it was like that for a while, no, but there were great admirers at one time, yes of napoleon, maybe maybe

then, as a matter of fact, they painted it over out of fear, well, because you just can’t paint over such beauty, you know, so imperceptibly, i would have become a portist, let’s say, katyusha, there are such family stories, they were never advertised, yes, they weren’t told publicly, not because they’ve been there for some reason completely secretive and secret, but maybe there was simply no reason, maybe... i found these soldiers at the dacha in one of

the boxes of my uncle’s secretary, and the soldiers ’ history described in the book is exemplary, the uncle is his son, it’s understandable, yes, according to steps of memory, these soldiers were made by my uncle when he was little, when he turned 19 the war began, and he served in marikhodka in st. petersburg. he was sent straight from the naval ship to the front, at the front he had a lot of all sorts of adventures, he crossed the laduga, was wounded, he was a sapper, they were sent to the rear enemy of sappers, so that they would blow up bridges , trains, that is, my great-grandfather, vladimir nikolaevich, made model railways, and his grandson... that means he blew them up, but it was

a necessary job, a very dangerous job, 70 of them left , only 14 returned back , the rest died when they were already going back , so to speak, to the rear, to ours from behind enemy lines, then they came out in the wrong place where they were expected, and where they came out, of course, the documents, of course, are simply unknown who, they were sentenced to death, the ridiculous man imprisoned them in some basement where they were waiting, executions were usually carried out in the morning, but luckily for them a lieutenant from their unit was passing by and said: “what, you want to shoot, we gave them an award for courage, they have medals”? they were, therefore, released, and the grandfathers had previously

written that your son had gone missing, we hope that everything would end well for him, it was of course a big blow, but you understand, and the grandfather waited and believed that his son would return, at some point... that moment i received the following telegram, your son has been found, he will be in moscow, she said who i brought you, look, and

alexey came, this young guy, as i told you, went to the front at the age of 19, was forty-three years old, respectively, 2 years older, 21 years old, a man , who, therefore, was wounded, who was frostbitten on ladoga, who was almost shot, this boy came home, and the first thing he did was go to his desk. and took out the soldiers, these ones, which he made in childhood, each soldier is painted in detail, that is, this is a boy, he became play with his toy, apparently, he still continued to live that life of his, well, in general, this is so as not to go crazy, probably people who have experienced so much at that age, then it is believed that there is such a... version that they served two comrade, grandfather told

the screenwriter this story, because there really is a civil war, but these two stories are absolutely the same, so my brother found it, now we take care of these soldiers, who are described in the book, which were made by my uncle, who came almost played in two comrades, yes, but here’s the story, but we have... one more thing that definitely played, at least on television, this, this thing, yes, it’s from television, this thing, mm, this is also this things all. which really remained for the soul, for our living ones, this is the tyopa hare, which my mother played, it was in the good night program, this is just, i remember the day when

the good night kids program was formed, when my mother came home, it will be with kolkatya new show, good night kids. i was little as a girl, this hare tyopa became an all-union favorite, he is charming, like this, and i remember, and from the age of four i was always acting on television, i think i will be a screenwriter here, good night, kids, and i even composed a poem, dedicated, that is, like a script for good night kids , here is such a wonderful hare, but that day that you remember, the first program was 1964, and my poems were very strange, dedicated, i can even remember them by heart now, once upon a time there lived a poor widow hen, her chickens hatched, they waited and waited, they waited for dad, dad didn’t return from the war, such stupid poems, under the impression of creating a new program,

well, of course, and mom played this hare in the program, yes, and i remember this beautiful hare, when we were here, he was very charming . when we - in 2000 , remember, erected a monument to the hare in mikhailovsky , who crossed the road to pushkin, who was going to st. petersburg, would have ended up on senate square, but the hare ran across the road, and he stayed in mikhailovsky and thus escaped from siberia, here in 2000 was the year a monument was erected, and this hare was invited there as an honored guest, and he sat there, which means at the event, and beat the drums with his paws, i remember well, and there are even photographs, so we... i am also very familiar with this hare, i know him i love it very much, i remember, he sits in a prominent place in my house, we continue the conversation - with the granddaughter of sergei vladimich obraztsov, ekaterina obraztsova, my name is ekaterina varkan, and please tell me, there is another one, you

told me, no one in the family knew even this story, before grandfather left, yes, and you and i recently met, and you say, imagine, this is such an unexpected story, completely touching, romantic, connected with my grandmother, and my grandmother died quite young right after she gave birth to your mother, and so this was a great misfortune and tragedy, well , indeed, my grandfather’s first wife, who bore him two children, alexei, whom i told about, and my mother, natalya sergeevna, who was.

there is a huge portrait of his first wife in full view, which means that he worked all his life next to her, here he is, and moreover, when the door opens, then from the side, if you go into the room, you can’t see this portrait, i have one like this, i have one at home, i have the same portrait, but small , like this, this is quite a, sonya, necklace, as my mother said, this is the only thing i have left from my mother, this is a necklace, my mother gave it to me, and i gave it to my niece for a wedding, it turns out that sonya is already right, it’s not so valuable, in my opinion,

aquamarine, most likely these stones.