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and me too, he won’t come out today, i feel it, let’s go, then i’ll have time to see you off before the metro, grandpa there is probably already crazy , but you and your dmitrich need to warm up in bed, he didn’t come out, of course. “i had no doubt about it, and you were waiting for him not there, but where it was necessary, i believe that it was necessary where no one comes out, the design bureau was dissolved, all documents for the project were sealed, they were in the regime chief’s safe, i told him he said everything,
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don’t carry it, the eggs should be in different baskets, he didn’t listen, well, now the safe has slammed shut like a mousetrap, but we still have there is a safe, this is dmitry alekseevich’s head, you have to think, you have to think about how to save it, well, you know, i’ll go anywhere, but i don’t know where, evgeniy ustinovich. help me, but you’ve already made all these moves, do you know what to do? dmitry alekseevich was your best friend, too, yes, but naughty, naughty, like me, in my youth, naughty. evgeny avsemevich, yes, look, look at me, here he is, a vile, vile, cowardly old man, gone crazy, a former university professor, nadezhda sergeevna, hate me, the ghost!
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well, put it here, and you are friends, don’t leave, then sign, stepan, get started, and be quick, well, why are you here, let me do it myself, it’s a responsible matter, guys, bastard, tolya, light a cigarette- it's better.
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why are you waiting for books? lagranche, analytical mechanics, costs 9 rubles, oh, step, step, dol, well, calm down. hello, are you not the wife of this?
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which we have, you say, boiler rooms, well , comrade lopatkin, wife, and what, he began to boil the ashes, the notebook fell behind the bars, i thought, if it’s not fate to burn out, then valuable notebook, i took it, thank you. vozga, first cabin, hello, yes, i’m listening, zenad afana, hello, this is nadya, drozdova, from moscow, hello, have you forgotten what time it is in music, you’ve become a muscovite, you’re probably talking about money, god bless them with money.
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“i want to ask you for one favor , you remember, this rostislav petrovich came to our music, well, i really, really need him, but i, i don’t know his name...” you know, maybe you can help me, well, it’s a long time to talk about a personal matter, but if it’s personal, sign up to see him as a deputy of the supreme council, and he is a deputy , but i don’t even know his last name, i don’t discuss such issues on the phone, i don’t know myself, i told you so much, well, they were considered debts , yes, yes, thank you very much, thank you
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rastislav petrovich, citizen , citizen, back, back, hello, nadezha sergeevna, it seems, hello, what are you doing here, i’ve been waiting for you, and for a long time, all 3 days. let's go to the car, oh my god, i could have gone out through a completely different gate, so this is fate, please sit down, yes, indeed,
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here is the entire encyclopedia of his work, yeah, here it is drawings, castings of bodies of rotation. i didn’t forget my requests, and even with an acid layer , well done, how did you manage to do it, nadezhdo sergeevna, when they burned the papers, the notebook miraculously survived, the stoker brought it to me and says it must be valuable, since it wasn’t fate not to burn , the stoker is right , they don’t burn ideas at all, and you trust me with this , and if i take it all and appropriate it, you won’t appropriate it,
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thanks to them, the structure is kept in a horizontal position, even on the stairs, and there is nothing to be afraid of, is that what it is? he is he, so what? i wish i could jinx nadezhda sergeevna , a gift from fate, the groom, one fear, as i’m afraid of what , also an inventor, inventors, shurochka, holy people, they shine like comets, not
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noticing that they themselves are burning, “stand, come in, comrade major, prisoner 1221 has been delivered at your order, come in, your blade number is interesting , the halves fit together, and no matter how you look at it, maybe you’re lucky, i got it..."
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nikolay, i checked yesterday, oops, oops, oops, oops, hello, nadezhda sergeevna, comrade professor mistook me for a spy, even let me in i didn’t want to, but you weren’t waiting for me at all, i was always waiting. i gave you away, and your guy is a hero, it looks like, why were you hiding? timka,
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by the way, can you get ready in 15 minutes? yes, but how? yes, absolutely normal, just dress the boy warmer. with dimka? well, what about without dimka? yes, what are you asking, i ’ll be ready in 5 minutes. well, good. come to me quickly. go quickly. where is our hat with you? "let's go for a walk, really, for a walk, let's go, let's go, don't be afraid, hit, hit, let's go to the cars, do you like cars, stop, don't give me a couple, look at me , of course, only in my opinion, in your household it is, well, who knows, who knows, what temperature the knees can withstand, according to technology , at least 3.0 °, just, let's go, close to body temperature entering the dense layers of the atmosphere. well, thank you, evgeniy astinovich.
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it was nice to meet you. we don't say goodbye for a long time. stand up, swagger, the officer on duty in the prison, captain sidorkin, duty, duty, sidorkin, the foreman over there is escorting me, decide to escort me, comrade general? let's go,
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stand up, deathly, filonite sharashka, whose is it? owls, citizen, captain, announces the all-clear, seals all the documentation in the room, and
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the most offensive thing is that we can work for days, what else can we do here, but what we end up with is one imprisonment, they replaced it with another, however, whoever thinks is free everywhere, comrade captain , people are eager to fight, striving to fulfill a government order of special importance, and you... are erecting obstacles, and why is the chief designer silent? i’m silent, rastislav petrovich, because i’m afraid to say it stronger. for example, we are prohibited from personal communication with kb-6, kb-12; they make the most important units for us. we communicate with drawings when we work through the wall, we can’t discuss, we can’t argue, with the specialists that we have, we could work 100 times faster if it weren’t for these essentially sabotage routines, sabotage, well, well, in like this.
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maybe i’ll upset you, dmitry alekseevich , the tavdiev machine works and produces quite decent pipes, they even received a stalin prize, well, i can only...
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help yourself, dmitry alekseevich, have a smoke by the window, the landscape there is better than from yours basement
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hello, i am pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a space history podcast. on march 9, yuri alekseevich gagarin would have turned 90 years old. he did what seemed impossible; with his first bold step, he literally burst into outer space. my old friend, my real one, is visiting me today.
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1961, by which time he had already become famous, he completed his space flight. please tell us about your first meeting and what it was like? yes, indeed, you are right that on september 1, 1961, yuri alekseevich and i stood in the same formation. 1 september - this is the general structure of the entire personnel of the academy, in the foreground were two cosmonauts: yuri alesirovich gagarin and...
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to be honest, they wanted to enter the gagarin academy, like all pilots, well , of course, like all pilots, this is natural, but sergei pavlovich insisted that they enter the zhukovsky academy, and here i would especially like to note that the cosmonauts, of course, were exceptional people, because, you know, they were recruited from several thousand people and first 32 were selected, then even fewer it became very studied conscientiously, it was more difficult for them to study. than us, ordinary listeners, well, they are in plain sight, they were ashamed to come there unprepared to receive an unsatisfactory test, i understand them perfectly. i watched them with 100 eyes, they studied longer than us, we studied for 5 years, they studied for 7 years in order to have time to complete the same program. it turns out that they studied, but you say that
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they began to skip classes, the reasons do not depend on them, that after the flight, every month, gagarin was somewhere abroad, otherwise he was traveling all the time, he glorified the soviet union glorified the soviet man, he himself was in spirit. a very soviet person , obligatory, loyal, conscientious, i once said that it seems to me that the country was lucky that the first cosmonaut was gagarin, he never let the country down, not in any foreign country, anywhere, the whole planet loved him, and he corresponded to this, so we later met with gagarin, i rarely met personally, but when they came to classes, and teachers often had to go to the star. so as not to distract them, we went to the stars teachers, the academy has already traveled , then the academy traveled, then they came, that is , there was a complex curriculum,
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the curriculum remained the same, but the curriculum changed, what is the curriculum, this is on wednesday, these classes are on thursday and so on, here is the curriculum, and of course it was adjusted according to how busy they were, and in order not to waste their time, teachers often traveled, and they studied not in absentia, it turns out, you know, full-time in absentia. yes, very much, because they remained astronauts, they had their own work, service, they had to take tests , pass exams, this is mandatory, this usually happened at the academy, but it happened even in the hospital, if the teacher suddenly had to take a test from gagarin, then he went to visit, to the hospital, and shveikin was lying there , he taught mathematics to the astronauts and he was very strict , he gave yuri a b and then he worried for a long time. he says, he answered between a four and a five, and i, he says, due to my boring character, gave him a four, but all the teachers were also under supervision, there
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you see, higher mathematics, shveikin, choir , everything else is excellent, vorobiev is here, that is , this is a real page of the grade book, this is a photo of his grade book, yes, all the teachers here are very close to me, all my friends, quite a rare meeting.
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she is a famous model with front lattice wings, at this stage i have often seen yuri aleseevich gagarin, why? because we at department number 15, the department of aerodynamics, organized such a diploma hall for astronauts, at the fifteenth department, they all sat on the third floor in the lecture hall next to the office, for yuri alekseevich they emphasized the power of respect.
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this is the head of the educational department, yuri petrovich kuznetsov, attaching a badge to him about graduating from the academy, and this is already graduation, yes, this is after the defense, and this, since yuri alekseevich dealt with takeoff and landing issues during his diploma, then on this simulator, it’s an analog simulator. .. practices the elements of takeoff and landing as a pilot, as an astronaut. the car, the analogue one already has the characteristics of this the device that we gave them after purging, these are the characteristics , and he tries, but he tries, he always succeeded, he lands, takes off and lands on this analog machine, his airplane invented by him, you were with him, you talk for hours like this... some kind of aura was felt that this was gogarin, that yuri alekseevich was a complex person, or he was as simple as all the other listeners, yuri alekseevich was
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better.
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and he gave him a photograph, sidorin, when you land on the moon, it will be easier for you walk, he was very heavy, also a very handsome friend of mine, you knew gagarin, met him, did you communicate with his family, with loved ones, you know, we
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talked a lot with the family, i don’t know how much.
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well, they said, in my opinion, your yura flew, he says, definitely mine, well, yes, major, he is like that, definitely not mine, my senior soldier, yes, yes , there is such a story, yes, there is such a one, to him during the flight assigned, during the flight, the minister of defense, reported to khrushchev that we were assigning him the rank of captain, khrushchev said, don’t be greedy, give him a major right away, he was promoted immediately, through the rank of major, he was a most worthy person, and what...
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what a pity that he died so quickly, you know, yura was so focused on everything, no matter what he did, he did it very well, and i understand him, and you understand better than me why he wanted to fly, he was a pilot, in the spirit of a pilot, he needed to fly, he wanted to fly into space, yes, he wanted to fly into space later, he really wanted to do science, and i i am sure that these are the bookmarks that he made in his graduation project, if he had become...
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the second on sunday on the first, there is an award , but he drives like a duck to water, this is the same one who ratted out his partner, or something like that, that’s right, in any department of the city your fame will surpass you, we are launching an experiment, we decided put you behind the wheel of a pilot taxi. can you work alone without a partner, taxi? why does covering a taxi driver give such excellent results? yes, because no lawbreakers ever pay attention to taxi drivers and taxis. moreover,
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if necessary, a taxi with the help built-in flashing lights in the radiator, with one press of a button it turns into a police car, not a car, but an animal. let me mind my own business, and you find a gunner with yours, we cover the gang, our people are among yours, they will do everything for him, we work, undercover taxi, premiere from monday on the first, your undervut. he turned into such a simple man, and the white-toothed
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strangers, we smoothed his hair with his hand, before he brought us into a coma, the kind, kind rabbi touched him tenderly with his red stubble. i loved you, he's like karen, i loved you, oh he didn’t know after how long i swam
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with a fragment of him throwing, a stream hit him in the back, and he silently pressed his parts, painfully, painfully, then he fell, hurt himself, from the wreckage, writhing into himself. at the beginning of the mafuse i will lie with a golden needle of the woman saw and beat and praised the life of the wing kakarin i loved you onararin i loved you she and karim. i loved you, oh darin, i loved you,
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oh. as if it were true that the milky way, the lord lowered it onto his lamp, his shoulder straps burn like mercury, he is so beautiful that it makes us sick,
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he is filled with white light, he said kindly to himself he laughs, his soul is like a testing ground, it is bright for him, and she is afraid of life. bila-belaga, life, krela, burned zakarin i. i loved you, gogarin , i loved you, oh, gogarin, i loved you, oh, like karen, i loved you, oh,
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today the deputy director of hello, good afternoon, and i also have scientific work at the memorial museum of cosmonautics us in moscow, vyacheslav klimenko. yes, good afternoon, hello, well, let’s talk, what does yuli alekseevich gagarin mean to you? gagarin had to happen in my life, that's what we call him hero, when he went to this, i think that he... didn’t think that i wanted to become a hero, i think that he just, first of all,
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knew how to dream, but, because, looking at him biography, i looked, well, how is it possible , well, it happens, a person chooses one direction in his life, i don’t know, he chose wrestling in his life there and he goes there in boxing, sambo, he did something else, well gogarin, well, he played basketball, and football, and hockey, he played in orchestras, he didn’t do anything, he was a worker, he was a foundry worker, yes, that’s it this is his destiny, i think it's not because he was hanging out, because he wanted to try everything. how did he come to the flying club in saratov? there is a story that, well, he just saw that someone was flying somewhere, he saw some story about a club, he wanted to go there, that is, he saw, he went and won, something like that seems to me to be a very useful phenomenon in general for people , well, that is, do what you like, achieve some success in it, not what is customary, well, go for something and you will become a worthy person, but do and get pleasure from it and don’t expect your hopes to fall, walked, walked, hop, stood up. this is the most important thing, yes, so this
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is probably the quality of loving life , enjoying every moment of it, it helped him become the first, and it attracted me to gagarin, i make him so natural to me, enjoy here now, here is yaroslav, i played in a film once, but in an artistic capacity, i just came and played myself, without preparing for anything, tell me, before playing the role of gagarin, did you have to do any special preparation? well, of course i read everything that there is, that was at that moment, there is a small funny moment that during the filming, it came together very well, everyone, all the actors, all my partners , whenever they met with me, in any scene, that whatever it was, they told me: “smile, you look more like gagarin.” i say: “well, firstly, gagarin was not a sick person, in order to smile endlessly, he had to do it for something.” well, i think the director may have chosen himself because of your smile,
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because gagarin is very famous for his smile , yes, well, we tried it before filming, we tried it there on the computer , they pulled me a little closer to gagarin, it all didn’t look very good and they did some kind of plastic makeup, we tried it, but then we realized that it was better to look for him through his internal history. this is falling in love with life, than trying to copy him like that, you know that the most difficult thing was that there are a lot of chronicles that are about him... it was filmed after landing, that is , we see him, he is happy, he is there, and there are even shots that seem to have been taken before, well then in fact, they were taken after landing , this is the task of deciphering, and how alone he really was, how, well, how worried he was, how, well, it’s really scary, well, at that moment, i understand that for those who are now flies, well, the path is already completely clear, where, we don’t know what to expect, how many simulators, everything else, of course, he went first. well, i think it’s now possible to ask vyacheslav about
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his childhood, i know that the museum stores a lot of things, a collaboration between the museum, which is located, well, now in the city gagarin, the former gachina, that is, what he was like as a child, what he was interested in, i don’t know what made him stand out from other guys, well , strictly speaking, a museum is a place where it’s true that we not only store objects, we study these objects, and we in fact, for such... well, a balanced historical truth, yaroslav just said that he read a lot, and this is also very difficult to understand with gagarin, because there has been written, well, a huge amount of literature, a lot of tales, a lot of myths, very...
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it is located away from the city, this is probably the earliest photograph, where the whole family , it so happened, a photographer came to the village, this event was after or before the war, no, this is before the war, this is about the forties, even in the thirty-ninth, and zoya, that’s the sister, she
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heard, that the photographer arrived, she ran, got permission that i could take a photo, here she is... standing on the left , she changed them all, you see, so the shirts, valentin is standing, the elder, the elder brother, here, the younger, here he is standing behind valentin boris, yura gagarin is sitting, by the way, you see, the way he looks, he doesn’t smile, now yaroslav noticed an interesting point, that this smile is famous, if you look at all the photographs, there is such a smile and such a smiling gagarin, he is after the flight, not even after the flight, i would say after 14 april, just look at the photograph, the first photograph of... is shown in the museum, when he was just taken literally an hour later, he was just brought to his military unit, listen, it feels like a man has returned from the underworld, that ’s how it is so true, he's not there yet moved away from this, he still doesn’t believe, he still doesn’t believe that he’s back, because he said it correctly, but there were 11 emergency situations, everything went wrong, that’s how many times
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you talk to the chief designers, some, yes, they say , no one would sign now even in one percent of such situations, such a flight. a good strong family, dad, that means such a working bone, everything was burning, everything was burning in his hands, it’s interesting that mom, she’s not just a peasant’s daughter, not just a peasant woman, it so happened that her family lived for some time, lived in st. petersburg, gagarin’s grandfather was such a hereditary worker at the st. petersburg flying factory, also by the way, the flying flying factory, so she received a three-year education, she knew how to read, unlike her dad, so... she read to him a lot, told him fairy tales, that is this is the first education he received, he received it from his mother, from anna timofeevna, and he helped his father a lot, that is, he also had everything in his hands, for example, there in the museum of the city of gagarin there is a small wooden frame that is on his father’s instruments, here he is did with his own hands, so quickly, to put
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just these photographs there, a photograph of his parents, and this is already a school photograph, in general, he went to first grade back in klushino. he was preparing, he was running, it so happened that his student allowed him to sit there with valya, with valentin, with his brother, several times he stayed in class, he just went before the war, he went on september 1, 1941 , he probably didn’t even really understand that there was already a war going on, the boy was 6.5 years old, so he studied for a month, the month of october, quite right, in october one hundred in october, yes, everything is correct, they kicked us out, in october the germans came. they set up a workshop there in this house, although the house was nice, big , there were three rooms, there they, in general, the father literally tore out the dugout in 2 days, they spent the entire time there , in general, they spent the entire time of the occupation in this dugout, not one year, yes, in the forty -third year only klushino was liberated,
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life was difficult, of course, there was nothing to eat, and a lot was not in the occupation, we went through a lot, almost died there, almost died here is boris, this is the youngest. his brother there, the germans literally hung him up there, they ate him, they took him off, he screamed, and yura and his mother literally saved him there - the elders, zoya and valentin , were generally driven away to work, they were driven to germany and managed to escape, and then they fought until the end of the war, and in 1945 they decided that she was moving, moving to zhatsk , my father was so damn good, everything was burning in his hands, everything was so good, he knew how to do everything. there are a huge number of stories here, a huge number of sources, because i also managed to communicate with people who were friends with gogarin, were classmates, and
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many classmates, many classmates, i just know that i remember when i, when i flew into space, well, we have the internet there , you can read, well, i read , the first time, of course, i read, i look, and there they write in short, well, i was sitting in class with him, i sat, and sometimes i read, i have never heard these names in my life, there are also such names, so if you go back to school and then of course he is, well, he is very active, very
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active, why is he active from such a side? he was really the first, he really was a hooligan, he was a hooligan, well, he was a hooligan like that , he was a normal boy, well, he was in charge in everything , and not in the forest, he was the boss there to collect some kind of cartridges, some kind of elders, if, well this became a little later, if the sport is a captain, for example, you remember the saratov period, the school.
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when we analyzed all the documents on the preparation of the first detachment, you understand, we even made such a mathematical formula, he was actually the first according to estimates, this is a very important point, he was really ahead and titov and others according to the assessment, that’s all, if you add up all the marks that he received in all the final exams during preparation, he was, he was number one, and you know, this distinguished gagarin, so we show in the museum his certificates are different, he is everywhere ... he studied with an a, he finished with an a everywhere, but at the same time, as he says , his teacher said, and even after the flight to
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the accounting academy, he had one b in mathematics, and the teacher later admitted that he it seemed that apparently gagarin was so good you have to show that he’s too cool, because he says, he was already four, five, but i decided, i’m such a cool teacher, i gave gagarin a four, then all my life i regretted that he gave him the only one. a four, i would also regret it, well, what do you think, he was a charismatic person, he was charismatic , i’ll even say this, the girls really liked him, he was very, you know, he was very, you know, there is a description of how he dressed when he went to school, yes, when he went to school, he always had ironed trousers, a white shirt, so this canvas bag, that is, his mother kept an eye on him, and at the same time he was very open, at first, just in everything, by the way , i wonder where the last name came from, there are also a lot of all sorts of stories around this, there at the press conference asked what your connection is with...

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