i want to express our condolences to those who were when in the united states they talk about how they will be. required for these bridges to become vulnerable. i am in no way hinting that russia had anything to do with the tragedy that occurred.

actually controls the west, and cannot understand that a certain kind of action is against, systematic support of ukrainian terrorism. could try

to find some common language between moscow and washington. it was a big game. and i’m with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov. hello, irina, thank you for coming, hello, hello, alexey, thank you very much for the invitation. irina, you played many wonderful roles. calling

, fate, curse, profession, all together , something else, why am i asking, because i see, go into acting, you really think so, i really think so, despite the fact that i madly love this profession, in general, all my time was given to her. despite the fact that i simultaneously work there as a theater director, nevertheless we are talking about this we’ll definitely talk, it doesn’t matter, she’s an actress, but what difference does it make, by the way, i’ve always been worried about an artist, an actress, an artist - she’s such a very artist, maybe an artist, this is of course

a diagnosis, because... this shine is so superficial, but female, and for women this is a much more difficult profession. and if men don’t go into the profession, who will play then? this will generally be a repertoire from the ancient greeks to the present day, i know how now, in my opinion, it is still

taken into account at the time when applicants. are you generally happy with your fate? and where i am today, i probably need to be careful, i was much more lucky with this and am still lucky...

adding some eyebrows or eyelashes, the cover may already be about something, it’s clear that you need

to work, exist according to -differently , then after all, cinema is a race over a very short distance, all this... from the beginning to the very end, and then at the end, the artist is responsible for himself during the performance, and cinema is much more, then of course, probably in the theater. i’m very good, but this is apparently my omission, so i’ll just talk about the movie it’s a little easier to talk to you now, because what they say is true, and i myself

refused, do you regret it? in the film the tower was directed by the famous director viktor ivanovich tryagubovich, and that is, because of this film, i refused to act in small faith and as if the tower did not have such success, that is, practically none , it went unnoticed, despite the remarkable success, and of course i regretted, i haven’t watched this film for a very long time, but i was offended. the feeling that i, these are not just words, everything that is done is done for the better, because success with me, i’m different, and i wouldn’t, but you

know her, yes, of course, we know each other, we even studied with her at the same time. she was a graduate of the school of students just when vera was a little girl, she was in her fourth year, and i was in my first. hmm, interesting, but i must say that i specifically looked at the tower, which i had not seen before. and i really liked this film, it’s just crazy, so romantic, on the other hand tough, and well, in general, a cool film, and it’s such a deep film, yes this is about the hypocrisy that was in life then, to do this, and it seems to me that you have a really wonderful role there, and it’s really a terribly offensive that this film went unnoticed. there’s nothing wrong with that

, there’s nothing wrong with that, but just a little faith then, it was some kind of absolutely yes for everyone a breath of freedom, it’s clear that i don’t want it in any way. little vera was very fashionable, very loud, yes, of course, we all remember that, even though you have a small role there, it is so expressive, so bright, so memorable, and of course there is a cool film with us just then filming together and it was denis’s film.

i’m ashamed of not knowing exactly this date, but now you don’t remember, and in addition to the fact that you were engaged in acting, did you also begin to engage in social activities?

i flew for a week, played all my performances, that is, well, he says, you will be the chairman of our trade union, but what’s the logic, if you are so busy, you still didn’t have enough here, you’re filming, plus i was there, i played a lot of main kings in art theater at that time, young , advanced, recognizable, you will be our trade union leader. blue bird, he said and we all just based on his incredible charisma,

charm, the art theater trade union was created, naturally, i was the chairman, yeah, so we created it. the management of the theater, well, as a result, of course, we all signed a contract, and on this, in my opinion,

on the seventh or eighth of january 2000 , my service in the art theater ended. not for long, i never returned to the art theater, dear friends, we continue, this is a podcast about the life of the wonderful, i am with you, its leading writer alexey varlamov, my guest is the wonderful actress irina apeksimova. it turns out that in your life there were two of these great olegs, oleg efremov

and oleg tabakov, what could you tell about them? taught nothing, well, tabakov naturally taught acting, and you studied from tabakov, i studied from tabakov, i am incredibly grateful to him, because he was very strict in the process of being responsible for every

student that he lets out from under his wing that this artist would be able to earn a piece of bread. with butter and the fact that the acting profession is a craft, and it is truly a craft, and one must master this craft, and thanks to it, after all, you see, i think that the number of students, that is, oleg pavlovich taught everyone very well, and it turns out that this is exactly how one should teach, that the path to this very peak lies through the strictest discipline. cruelty, harshness and so on, unfortunately, yes, it seems to me that yes, it is clear that when we were studying, it was all very offensive and it was not clear why, why, because this is the only way you can enter this profession, that is, what we started our conversation with today, this terrible, humiliating, such a beloved profession. on

the other hand, you have such a fairly rich western experience, but you worked in europe, worked in america, and how is it going there? well, there was a movie there, and i was filming with jean luc gadard, and even to me he was wonderful, gandar was amazing, you know, it was getting dark for me. invited me, yes, yes, i acted with him, i was at the audition when i, i i was filming, but what was the name of the film, the film was called these funny russians, and the film, as far as i understand, is not semi.

well, is it still very different from working with our directors? no, it's absolutely, is it different that cinema is more international than theater? well, yes, probably, of course, as far as i understand, you eventually created your own theatrical agency? yes, when i was kicked out of the art theater, i didn’t have anything, but were you terribly offended? yes,

what are you talking about, life is over, theater. kamergersky current. one great russian writer. mikhailovich. i couldn't even turn my head. yes, apparently something, some kind of trade union history, then a theater company

, to immediately go somewhere, i don’t know, to the plekhanov institute, as some kind of manager, i think that my dad would be happy, that’s it... this is because... that the only role that i played was a cage, despite the fact that russian cinema has been around for years, and it has failed in many ways, because in my opinion there is a brilliant script, but due to the lack of certain things. it seems to me that he is underrated, but i myself

i will say, i am very sober, because yes, i know how it was filmed, and i understand that it could have been much more interesting. according to everything, according to you, it wasn’t scary, i watched it, this movie, it’s like flying over the cuckoo’s nest, only it’s even scarier, because it’s not a men’s mental hospital, but a women’s one, yes, that’s why it’s completely creepy, so you weren’t scared in general, how interesting i have this question: was this film specifically written for you, did you create the role, or were you found for this role?

filming took place, despite the fact that they were well, probably quite physically difficult, it was just some kind of happiness, it was very short. a very fairly compressed process, and of course, in many ways we didn’t have, they shoot in a day, but then it was very difficult, because there was no opportunity for a take, for a test, for... yes, this is a purely financial issue, because a certain quantity,

they played such a quite interesting, bright role, what is your feeling from this series? and i remember that someone, this is quite a long time ago, i watched this series, someone really told me i liked it, colleague, i worked at moscow university, she is an expert on yesenin, she wrote a book about yesenin, a very good book. she, when this film was just launched on channel one, otherwise it’s such a horror, the next day

yesenin said this, this is what they got, this is exactly how it all happened, and i am now too, very good . in principle, the script there is really good, that is, it was written so competently, with knowledge of the era, like yesenin, of course, or in my life i think it was very good, yes, this is happiness, a series like... well, where did i end up in the bourgeoisie ? yes, by the way, this is the most famous work, but it’s

kind of like that. mainly for the sake of money and for the sake of fame, because day after day you work, you get a decent salary and so on, dear friends. actress irina apeksimova. and then there really is a new, sort of turn in your destiny, which is very interesting to me personally, because here you and i are partly similar. i have been involved in literature all my life, writing books, i was teaching, suddenly i was offered to become the rector of a literary institute, for me it was such a rather complicated collision, i can write another one, but this

has already happened in my life. director and refused, for almost 10 years now i have been working at the literary institute on tver boulevard, in your case, how did it happen that you are such a wonderful actress, yes, how did you suddenly get pulled into this administrative whirlpool? well, in about the same way, i was offered to become the director of the roman viktyuk theater, because in his private theater company roman grigorievich staged two performances for me and... we seemed to be friends with him, we were quite close, a situation arose in his theater that it was necessary to replace the director, the rector is not even the artistic director, and not the main one, well, it was impossible anyway .

life role, life role, it’s so funny, well, it’s kind of ridiculous, in mine everything is an actress, if anything you were not just an actress, but you were an actress who, well, in a sense, spoke out against the authorities, yes, that is, you were on the other side of the barricade, well one way or another, that is, you became on the other side of the barricades, you realized it, no, to be honest, you didn’t realize it. not for a single minute, i can do it, great, i can’t, no big deal, i won’t be able to become a rector, well, well, it didn’t work out, of course, he wasn’t there, but how many of you, i’ve

been working as a director for 11 years already. i don’t know how to try very hard, you know, no, no, no, yes, irina, alexey, okay, when someone comes to your office, do they call you by your first name, patronymic, or just by your first name? they call me by my patronymic name, well, it seems to cut very hard rumor, then i realized that i was going nowhere, and the older generation theater workers, of course , treat me like you, where can i go, there ’s no way to do anything about it, but are you such a tough leader? i really don’t like it when theater

turns into the perception of a theater-house, a theater is a house in a different sense. folding beds with dirty bed linen, microwaves and so on, i say terrible things, but this is also in many theaters, moscow, moscow, of course, too, but wait, so you were with viktyuk for 3 years, yes, and then, then to me offered go to the theater, and here is taganka, name taganka - this is generally something so transcendental, i remember when i was a student in the early

eighties, how many hours i... spent there near this theater, there is no extra ticket there, there is no extra ticket here, i remember my feelings, of course, i’ll tell you now.

as if, as practice shows, for these, well, let’s say, a very good creative level,

i brag, because the truth, i really brag, because it was very hard. nikolaevich, after which i was appointed director of the taganka actors' community, in last year we... or again taganka is one, both stages, both stages, as it was once initially, so tell me, what is the most important thing for you,

people? we went to the taganga theater when i came there, firstly, on a territorial basis, you know, this is where to go, and this, as a rule, i don’t want to offend, but 75 plus, this is the kind of viewer, no matter how much they shout people of tradition,

the new repertoire has a lot of performances, a lot of good ones have come, directors for the production, that is, you don’t have permanent directors, all the time. twenty-five-year-old alexander korpushin , who, very talented directors, is the only person we have on staff, all the rest are young, guest directors

of different ages, but mostly young, the repertoire is built like such a, you know, multi-layered pie, where each person must for himself find something of your own, because there is a very intimate show. from simple in construction to complex in form. just according to the stage design and so on, different forms, different directors, of course, each the director brings an interesting set design, everything we have is staged, well, in general, over the years, yes , all this is very... they immediately created a director’s laboratory, this is when the directors do one thing

that hypothetically could be interesting for the theater to stage. laboratories, roles are assigned for a week, they rehearse with the artists for a week, a week later the stage goes out to the audience, since the fifteenth year there have been such director’s laboratories, and these laboratories have given incredible results, because there are a lot of premieres... the beginning is administrative and the beginning is creative, that is, in principle, the administrator, that’s right, it’s you who makes the decision. what director to invite, what performances

to stage, that is, that’s all. on the first channel of the podcast, everyone wants to fly and i am its host, leonid yakubovich. today you and i will not fly anywhere, today we will remember a man, but if not legendary, then at least i give it away.

on may 25, 1889, in the family of a famous psychiatrist, the family was provided with a very serious position. therefore, according to the established tradition in the family, the boy was baptized exclusively like his elders on the boy, i read him different fairy tales, but this is what is typical in the story about the great man. showed him a picture of a certain design,

which the great inventor, scientist and artist, one day suddenly, one might say, wandered in, so the design was born a very long time ago, in the fourth century bc in china. an acacia leaf falls, it’s easy to check if you follow some strange trajectory, only then it lands, once upon a time, i repeat, in the century bc, china there was a toy like this.

spinning in the air, it was so childish toy, we will tell you later that from this, from this toy, the idea of ​​​​creating a similar image of cars was born, of course it evoked. inexpressible surprise in general for those who have ever seen this, and igor was absolutely. asked to hire servants in the house for him.

i imagine as if he were flying, further more, to the st. petersburg naval cadet corps through, he insisted and achieved his goal, in 906 he left... for a technical school in france, such as duveney de lanno, at that time a rather famous person . about six months passed, maybe a little more, he returned, in 908 he entered the aeronautical section,

which he led. without finishing, well, it’s probably already become a habit of the institute; this is an incredibly technically complex matter. i’m not holding in my hands a helicopter of course, i’m holding in my hands a legendary one, how is this helicopter different, this

helicopter design from many others, but for some reason he always wanted to make a helicopter with one rotor, the helicopter couldn’t... the air could rise, then there he was bubbling. he insisted, the family allocated funds and he went. ferber , i must tell you, first of all, immediately explained to him that inventing a helicopter is easy, building it is more difficult, you can never lift the air, and

gave as an example all the living creatures that existed at that time on our planet, that still exist, that . incredible, he decided that it would be done, he gave up, by the way, helicopter construction, it didn’t work out, it didn’t work out because there was just a lack of theory, it was just not yet clear. and there was no, he left this occupation for a while and began.