in general, i fought for this all these years, because a lot of people went to theaters in taganga when i came there, firstly, on a territorial basis, you know, here’s where to go, and this is usually , i don’t want to offend, but 75 plus, that’s the kind of viewer with ticket prices starting from 100 rubles. and so on, and we spent a lot of time creating a new repertoire. new performances, because no matter how much people shout about the tradition of the beloved, but without the beloved the theater of the beloved cannot exist, traditions it can’t be in the theater, by the way, some of lyubimov’s performances remain, two performances remain: the good man from suzanna, with whom the taganka theater began, began in the sixty-fourth year, and it is still our anniversary this year, the sixtieth anniversary , and master margarita, there are two names left, but of course it’s already like this, you know... museum,

museum, museum, museum, that is, this kind man, who was incredibly avant-garde then, now looks archaic, very archaic, very archaic, everything else new the repertoire is a lot of performances, a lot of good artists came, but in the corps there were very good strong artists, different directors come to the theater all the time, i invite young, exclusively directors for the production, that is, you don’t have permanent directors, there are no permanent directors in the theater , there is... one, one young talent, i invited him this year, and twenty-five-year-old alexander karpushin, who is not at all like that for a director, now there are such young wonderful, very talented directors, here this is the only person we have on staff, all the rest are young, guest directors, of different ages, but mostly young, the repertoire is built like this, you know, a multi-layered pie, where each person must find something for himself.

its own, because there are from very intimate performances , very atmospheric, let’s say, simple in structure, in form, to incredibly complex, to musical performances, to complex simply in terms of stage design, and so on, different forms, different directors, naturally , each director has his own thought, its own form, its own genre and so on , and also the visuals, well... very much, i fight for an interesting set design, we are all set designers, that is, everyone says that the scenery in the taganka theater is very beautiful, well in general, over the years, yes, it’s all very difficult all the time and the process, plus in the fifteenth year, when i came, they immediately created a director’s laboratory, this is when directors offer some kind of material, we agree on several proposals, on one thing, what could hypothetically be of interest to the theater laboratories

are set up, roles are assigned for a week, they rehearse with the actors a week, a week later the stage goes out to the audience, since the fifteenth year such director's laboratories have been going on, and these laboratories have given an incredible result, because a lot of premieres have come out thanks to these laboratories, very many famous directors, now famous directors , appeared in these laboratories, and these laboratories continue now, well , after all, this is your role, as far as i understand. usually a theater director is a person who deals rather with the technical side, you combine both the administrative and the creative beginnings, that is, in principle, here you are in one person, and the artistic director, by and large, and the administrator, right? it is you who decide which director to invite, which performances to stage, that is, it all lies with you, well, of course, the final decision is made by me. thank you very much, this was the podcast life of the remarkable, i am with you, its host.

writer alexey varlamov, my guest was a wonderful actress, theater director nataganki irina apeksimova. this is a podcast 20 years later, and i am its host, konstantin mikhailov, and today my guest is the man-epoch, and 20 years later, and 30 years later...

we went there, we went, there i had an overload, a transport ship with refurbishment plants , these are refrigeration units , and we came there, and there were srt, bmrt, these are medium -sized fishing grasses, large fishing ones, so they caught fish, then they loaded them onto our ship, the fish, it was frozen, and then we went from there from bristol to yuzhnoinsk , petropavlovsk area, kholmsk, nahodka, vladivostok, then deviation.

you’ll go with a little motorman, i say , with pleasure, that’s where my other life began, and how the sea ended for you, it ended, it ended dramatically, i ’m trying to talk about it a little, but we can still do it in a nutshell we had been walking for 2 years already, then i moved from the engine room to the electrical shop, became an electrician, the central control post of the cpu, considered ourselves intelligentsia, we already wore gloves, this... they were returning there, already loaded with fish, attacked in icy conditions, was

a very big storm and the vokhodsk sea killed a lot of guys then, it capsized to the top to the bottom four in my opinion. the average rovsky trawler, where, well, where the crew is so 18, 20 people, this is when the matcha gets iced up, not like the matcha, it’s like a wave , it’s sweeping onto the deck , the whole deck freezes, freezes, it has to be chipped off right away, and the whole crew comes out on a chip of ice, the so-called, all cutting, stabbing, axes, crowbar, and the captain takes the helm, heartily working on the machinery.

but the unexpected happened, i got caught graduation performance of the theater institute, that’s all. got sick of the theater and got sick of the theater, this is anton pavlovich chekhov, ivanov, this was the first release, accelerated release in vladivostok, played one of the main roles, dr. lvov was played by valera priyomakhov, later became my very close friend, of course

the guy went into that world of amazing talent , here he is with this manner of inflamed such a delicate nervous system, such a nervous guy, and then i... listen, from the world of theater you came to the world of cinema, if my memory serves me right, you will find it in battle, the first film was, no, at least that’s all, it was - the film was, it’s stronger than me, and valya malyavina, then there was vanya gavrilyuk, a ukrainian, there was

kapelyan, efim zakharovich, this is an average picture, but still it’s a very expensive picture for me , i understand that before love and the dove you had very powerful works such as... men, zmeylov, coming, very powerful work, yes, this is one of the first films by valery lonsky, the kingdom of heaven, amazing, it’s like.. ... gave me a role where i left such a blue hero, so to speak, this one, he gave me meat, meat in image, a piece of such a character , yes, a village guy, and i remember that yes, zhana prokharenko is there, yes, yes, a beauty, and i remember that in the final, when they hit you once, you fell, they hit you the second time, good, you fell , yes, the third time, and you get up, you ’re bleeding so much, and you get up, now tell me. kill , and now i’m going to kill you, well , let’s agree, we’ll agree on the blow, it was such a good one,

it was, of course, it was happiness, valera, there was an amazing episode, we didn’t get some scene, with the father, there goes dialogue with father, uh-huh, conversation, and the scene didn’t work out , i was nervous, and valera was walking around something in the pavilion, nervous, i sat, huddled somewhere in a nook and began to sing to myself the centuries-old linden song. like a centuries-old woman is standing outside the window, a daring song

sounds over the river, then she says, well , as they say there, but my dad fell in love , but it’s clear that it’s not in vain, i see that i’m in, you, he says, took the bait and, well, it’s okay, she’s good, she says, she’s good, come on, some kind of one... gave birth to this, this is an accident, this accident gave birth to this, gave birth to this song, it is clear that the audience always identifies the actor with his role, everyone thinks that i just remember when my dad played pavel zubov in the film “muzhiki”, they began to inundate us with letters, yes, that was years ago , letters came in bags, and they were alive, there weren’t any emails, because there weren’t any then, they started coming, this was in the eighties.

thanks for the movie, guys, yesterday my dad watched your picture and bought me a chocolate bar, hurray, this is this, hurray, i saved it from me, as i read, there were a lot of such letters, or a married couple writes there, we say we’ve separated, well, it happened in life, it’s not easy, and we watched a movie in different cinemas at different times, guys, and then we met by chance in the park, there was such a pause , we hugged, now we live happily, thank you, thank you for the picture, guys , how great, yes amazing

, a lot of families were united by this, amazing, this is probably the great mission of real art, to influence fate, to help people, and now i understand what you are talking about, what can really happen now - by and large, is missing exactly this, there is not enough warmth, cordiality, soul, soul is missing, yes, a film that would heal the souls of people, would make them better, i haven’t seen this for a long time, and the men were made by iskra babich, iskra babich, yes, it’s also a difficult story, i i refused twice, you refused, refused, and i ’m thinking about something, an invented plot, a plot pulled from thin air, etc., and then they introduce me to the author, boom, the author, he wrote his own destiny, that’s how gurkin talks about his, that means, love and wrote a naked story about his fellow villagers, so this story was written, and it’s true that he i was very nervous when... there was a premiere, he said: why are they disgracing me so much? i say, what is it? he says, i didn’t take the dog to murmansk, and he was worried

about this, i said, well, this is a movie, there’s something added there, some kind of atmospheric thing, and he treated me so lovingly, of course, when the picture, well, in general , everything was very nervous, and gurkin was not worried that some new jokes had appeared, no, he simply enjoyed it with pleasure. attentive to everything very shy, very bashful, shy and not very active, he’s very smart, and he keeps saying, no, that’s how it should be, do it, do it, i don’t know what to write, i wrote everything, that’s what you want, that’s it do it, i say , okay, we continue with the people’s artist of the rsfsr, with my father alexander mikhailov,

i am often asked what it’s like to be the son of a famous actor, and i don’t know what to answer, because if i lived two lives, somewhere in a parallel reality i would not be the son of a famous actor, i would say, well, yes, here this is probably better, but i don’t know , i lived one life, and the fact that my father acted in film and was in the theater is a given, you often took me to film sets, i remember, for the first time i was on the set of a film about pilots - it was, yes , yes, yes, they are waiting for me on... they are waiting for me on the ground, yes, yes, and you told me, the cameraman is the most respected profession on a film set, even cooler than the director, and even more respected is the man who drove the cart, well, you somehow remembered it interestingly, your words were, yes, he says, he knows from what moment to which one should be directed and where to stop, and how

to conduct it, the most independent person is the cameraman on today’s stage, because he generally has nothing to do with it, well, the director, yes, he has his own vision, but the cameraman-artist, he himself, is the father he told me, be your son’s cameraman , in no case an actor, because the actor depends on i didn’t want you to be an actor, to be an actor, by the way, you entered without - i didn’t even know about it when you joined tabakov , yes, i was by chance, yes, by chance, by chance, and why, it’s interesting how by chance, you and i studied armless with seryozha, yes, yes, seryozha, with dasha yurskaya, i studied with a beacon. by chance, i remembered something that our mutual friend with you, boris vasilyevich cherbakov, said that even more likely his wife, tatyana bronzova, said that on june 25 the first round at the studimhat school for the tobakov course, yeah, i remembered because that june 24th is my birthday, yes, yes, yes, i remembered, it somehow fell into place, and on june 24th i had a good rest with

my friends who came from riga, i even forgot that it was my birthday. woke up in a friend’s apartment, our friend’s there, that’s it, so, stepping over the bodies, i got to the kitchen, saw the rest of the white liquid there, planted half a glass, here my sharpness, which means it improved, colors appeared, somehow my hearing cleared up, and the brain, which remembered that there was a set today, and not to go to me, amazing and i went, the look was strange, i had some kind of high black boots, black pants, a black shirt and a partupe, why are you, they asked me to dance, i danced the breakdance that i danced then, yes, but i'm sorry, you were world champion, russian champion, yes russian champion, yes you are top brek, yes top brek, there is an electric boogie there, dad, there is a robot, a robot

in general, i remember that. this is this, this is this fixation, i was amazing , of course, but you made yourself, you did, i remember, you kept performing in front of the mirror, what a mirror, i didn’t have a mirror, chafoner, chafoner, well, varnished, here i am i was kicking myself in front of a transparent door, and you said, stop doing bullshit, son, learn, by the way, you even had a moment when you said that there is nothing but a break, for today, i want to leave from school. i remember very well, i told you, mowing, continue, finish 10 grades, then no, dad, this is a matter of principle for me, i say: the time will come, and then you will tell me that this is not the most important thing, well, where to get it today, here so casually, no, well , i thought that this was my future profession, i then began to earn money while studying at school as a break, and you said so, son , finish school, you were certainly right, that

you need to finish school, on the twentieth side - this is a great parental lie when you they say: yes, as i remember, you ran away from home , i don’t remember something for a long time, i was looking for everything for you, so all of this, you had some cockroaches of your own, they were here and there, i remember small children’s protests like that - these

two, in my opinion, were distorted on the third day , my mother and i are driving in a car, suddenly my son is walking with some guy in the middle of the road on the dividing line which is such despair, he ran away from the house hurray freedom freedom and what next? yes, what's next, what's next, i'm sorry, but i think i hit someone, but not you, suddenly flew to a friend who had nothing to do with it at all, who was just hanging out with us from there, and you probably wanted to punch me, but you took it out, changed your mind, kolyan , please forgive me, why are you still friends, no, we’re like- then we called each other, and somehow it didn’t work out to meet, but i think that we will meet again somehow, you know, i want to. i’m here to apologize to you that i didn’t even lay a finger on you, and i didn’t help you when you were studying at the institute, unlike seryozha bezrukov, i remember that vitaly

bezrukov, he spent days there, spent days, spent the night, day, drilled my son and of course forced, you helped me a lot when i asked you, you didn’t help when i didn’t ask you, i did everything on my own, but just when there was a show of independent work. and yes , vitaly bezrukov helped seryozhka a lot, and maybe that’s why seryozhka was so successful, because he also had, in addition to all the teachers who taught us the acting profession, oleg pavlovich tobakov, alexey sanovich silverstov, and of course, mikhail andrevich labanov is literally our dad, and seryoga had another teacher, his dad him, dad, yes, but when i asked you. remember that one of your most successful stage appearances was in the role of radion romanovich raskolnikov, this was still in my student days, well, this was my first

job in the drama theater after graduation, i was taken to the drama theater in vladivostok, and my first role was , i thought you were immediately assigned to saratov, no, no, no, i worked there for a year and a half, worked in vladivostok, and then i was invited to replace oleg yankovsky, of course. and who was taken to moscow, no, who was taken, we’ve been here for 9 years worked with oleg ivanovich , played five roles for 9 years, he acted a lot then, shield and sword, i francis ren, two comrades served and he needed a replacement, they couldn’t get it from moscow, well, they don’t go to the provinces, but from the provinces, from vladivostok i was invited to saratov, then there was natanzavich basin, he was the artistic director of the saratov art director. theater and he knew me, i said: i have this guy, let’s invite him, we invited him, then, well, i’m a little taller, but not in terms of talent, oleg was a little taller in height, and we became friends with

oleg, and well, i went through a very powerful provincial school, worked in saratov for 10 years, and we lived in his apartment, they gave us oleg imanovich, oleg ivanovich an apartment, and they moved to the center, closer, so i asked my father to help me working on roles. raskolnikov, and it seems to me that it really helped me, well, it doesn’t seem like it definitely helped, that’s the nerve i took from my father, i remember that when i even went out, i needed to somehow catch this is the state to get out of the state of rest, i went down, it was winter, i just dipped my head in the snow, i also powdered myself a little like this, in... in such a snowy mood, i walked into the frame of the scene with alesya patashinskaya, she was a sleepyhead, yes, yes, yes, yes, and you studied for how long

you studied there, 2 years, 2 years, i have a feeling, maybe i’m wrong, i have a feeling that when oleg found out, yes, oleg pavlovich found out that some kind of training had begun, i didn’t know that you were a little at odds with him, well, in contrast, somehow not very... in general, one of those cases when the relationship with the people's artist of the ussr played a sad role, well, probably, everything worked out, how did it happen, because i didn’t lose another 2 years, i went to study at higher directing courses, by the way, yes, i will never forget, stashenko, yes, help, yes, there was a heroine, oksana stashenko, i have her... i filmed, and your teacher was tumanishvili , and he’s a very amazing person, and i remember some work of yours, you did it at the dacha,

i remember very well, and you were filming, which means... you pressed your foot , you pressed some kind of lighting button there or the equipment, which means i directed it myself, played everything, it was so interesting, i i watched how interesting it was, and i thought that this was your future, i’ll also shoot my own, listen, i was just somehow sucked into radio and television, so i think i’ll shoot something else, and yes, working as a director was incredibly interesting and it seems to me that this thesis turned out very good. igor kitaev was her husband at that time, my cameraman was the magnificent sasha ilkhovsky, that’s cool, and the producer dad, well, the producer, like i was just a participant in these things, panted a little. and what was it that

was sponsored, well, money, we need to eat it was at the dacha, so yes, yes, mom and dad gave us money for food, and i thought that you would go into directing, well, there were financial problems then , all the perestroika things began and then a twist, a twist for some very bad movie we had at that time, yes, yes , the movies are some very unfunny comedies, until now this movie has not come out of this kind of routine, i don’t like today’s cinema, this is my thing ...

podcast and he helped the guys there in orbit and told them how to do everything, and it’s crazy interesting, because yes, this is the first film that was shot in space , a feature film, well, yes, yes, and there are no corpses, no crime, everything is very good there, and there is humor, and you can laugh and cry, but i’ll watch , i’ll look, i’ll just look, and you know, i watch movies like this, and i understand that we have a future, it’s interesting, it’s very expensive. point of view, yes, this is the man who buried russian cinema, at that time, it was there 20 years ago, exactly, i thought, well, that’s it, we won’t get to this level, but i remember that there were times when hollywood was jealous of us , hollywood learned to do special effects on us , it’s amazing to realize this now, this is a podcast 20 years later, and we continue

the conversation with my father, people’s artist... sfssr alexander mikhailova, what is your favorite soviet film ? i recently watched 9 days of one year, i’m shocked, how many years have passed since this picture, and i ’m not even talking about the amazing cast, there’s kenti mikhailovichtunovsky, batalov, alexey vladimirovich lavova, amazing, you know, here i once said one of my favorite actors, jean gabin, i think, when they asked me. what is the basis of cinema, he said three factors: firstly, the script, secondly, the script , thirdly, the script, yeah, a little bit of your own , you add some kind of conflict, one or two conflict situations, you get the result, this you have to be a mediocre director, including cameramen and the support staff in general, to ruin good, good material, which doesn’t happen very often, but it does happen, what’s your favorite role, i’m now i’ll do it, i have a beloved, an enchanted

wanderer, and i’m like that. at home liskov vacherinstrannyk, i’m not talking now about the quality and how i played, but to touch the real material, for ivan flyagin, it ’s something, it was such happiness, although there were so many problems there, there were so many frostbitten legs, and i fell with four meters high, he broke his arm, then we had a terrible tragedy there, there was a horse, there was a beautiful horse in this film.

there was this beauty, they took her there, well , in general, there were a lot of dramatic moments there you can’t have your back like anastasia, he’s throwing out all these candles there, extinguishing them, and there was the devil, you devils there were indignant, the parishioners were indignant, i had a hard time persuading them somehow in the floor so that it was an iconostasis, yeah , you could see blowing out these candles, there there was also a lot of things. i repeat again, i’m not talking about the quality of the picture, but the fact that i had this film in my life, it’s not very expensive, very expensive, i remember many more wonderful films with you, alekhine, of course, alekhine, white snow of russia, chess player white snow

russia, gorgeous, yes, my homeland forgave me, yes, my homeland forgave me, no, there’s a good phrase there, a man, a man without a homeland is always alone, alone in happiness and alone in misery, i still remember being shaved in battle, i remember being kidnapped. well, first of all, i really liked samsonov , amazingly, then he directed an optimistic tragedy, he was a completely unique director, and he suggested, in my opinion, samsonovich to samsonov, inin arkady inin,

when he wrote the script, and he suggested me for this role, and i was practically approved right away without a screen test, and then to work with natasha gundareva, this is of course a great happiness, a great happiness, such a pleasure. and natasha and i had two pictures, the first was a picture, it was a series, the investigation is being carried out by signs, the fourteenth episode, i played a bandit like that, well, it’s like a bandit, she’s a bandit, they sang romances, and there it’s baby talk, what’s happening , happened and is still happening, as he says, why does he say, you committed this crime, what a crime, he began to somehow save paint and paint there. matter, and he says, when i saw my wife have these chicks, when she was washing clothes, i promised myself that i would make sure that her hands were beautiful hands, that here she was, so he stole little by little, well, this is such a childish

leped, the risk is a noble cause, one of my favorites films where you played a stuntman , rusanov, in my opinion, rusanov, yes, this is yaksan segel, segel, segel, yes, amazing, you did some of the stunts yourself, not all, but half of the stunts... so you have to run against the flames , against the wind, here the wind is in the other direction, nothing can be done, i had to take a pause, it’s on, and the engine holding, i had to wait for the command to jump into another episode to run away, it’s burning

, i feel it’s burning, tell the director, i think i’ll endure it, i’ll endure it, come on, let’s go, let’s go, i’ll go, and the whole back was covered there, in which the moment you felt that people began to recognize you on the street, after what film? arriving, and after arriving, after arriving , yes, basically, yes, after arriving , how old were you, even if i don’t remember, i don’t remember the weather, you know, what if i wasn’t 16, of course, older, but i was already older decent, well, i graduated from college when yes i was already 23, then i was 10 years old, well , somewhere over 30, under 40, how do you generally feel about this people’s love, about fame? calmly, calmly, i myself am very friendly towards people, i don’t have this fanfare, i have a lot of awards, i try to take off my shoulder straps, put the awards in my locker and don’t boast about it and try something like

this, you’re a people’s person, i i try to say, guys, there is no title, there is, i’m just an actor, the greatest title is an actor who is respected, who hasn’t let you down, yeah, who doesn’t act in commercials, they don’t act in advertising, so i don’t judge my colleagues. i know that you wrap up a lot of scripts, and you don’t act in what, for me , my left hand is very sensitive, i’m reading , suddenly there’s a storm coming.

i entered because of the vest, but this

is diomite bay, this is the open gate to golden rock bay, all my free time i ran to the shore and admired this algae, this sea, the smell of the sea, after all, i came after graduating from college to the ship, and i will never forget, i was tying myself up, when it was four to five there was a storm, i was tying myself up ropes, i had a train specially secured like this, it stood like this on the bow when the ship was sank into... i understood where i got it from when we went on a cruise on a turbo ship leonid sobinov i did the same thing in a storm, you don’t know what you are did. but i, too, stood on the bow of the ship

, clinging to it and also in pain, and in my childhood i loved not just rain, but downpour, i adored downpour, like a real downpour, to the point of my underpants, i jumped out into the street, let it rain, let it rain, let’s go into the bushes to pray to god, to bow to the king, and i i got such pleasure from this thunderstorm i adore all the elements, i just love these things, listen, let’s put an end to this in the next episode, let’s talk about your most famous film, love and doves. this is a podcast 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, we continue with the people's artist of the rsfsr with my father alexander mikhailov. today we remember the film love and the dove. whether we're going to kiss or not,

what else did you come up with, kissing, look at the resorts there, happy to stay, we met you, that's all, it... was absolutely amazing, because it's, well really without editing , you have to learn it, everything was filmed in one shot, it’s a piece of a house, as i understand it, they didn’t build a house on the pier, they brought the door, only the door was brought when carefully, without a threshold, without a threshold, why right away when the door was lifted. without a threshold and he filmed for a long time, it took a whole whole due

to this, it wasn’t very warm for you to swim, of course, but there was no one there on the beach , there was no one, the lights were removed there, they were paid as a driver. "heroes, let's leave this dog, i'm already numb, he says, more there were divers below when they lowered me there.” i fell there, well, it’s a human being, he floats up, and there were two divers there on purpose, they were waiting, they let me in and undressed me, i heard there was a moment when you have a tie, well, yes, yes, yes, this is a long story from there, there was no take, there was a take, a burbashka take, and there was only one tie, this

wool tie, and there was a general problem . the first take took a long time to shoot, we need to quickly, the faster, the better you two healthy men can't undress one, and i'm very good i remember when i was falling there, and the costume designer came up to me and pulled it up, here’s the six-piece tie, when they... was there, and that means i started fighting, you’re choking , that’s it, i can’t float up, they’re dragging me away, they were dragging me, they were bothering me and they were fucking me here, then, and i accidentally saw the ugan hit him, they

fell behind, i began to emerge, but he had already returned me, he returned me. the captured diver accidentally took a knife, a knife, and he took out the knife and started hitting the blade, he took it out and cut it, then i flared up, so the third take only entered, because after the second they baited the take with a thread there just a little bit , they were the first to grab it, right in the third take, they immediately picked the fish, they did everything else

, there were three takes in total, and only three takes, in 2009 mtv, russia recognized love and doves as the best soviet film, that is... who previously starred in one film, love and doves is ensured by popularity recognition for many, many years already 40 years of films and you come from small to great oh oh love and doves love and doves it’s pleasantly pleasant because it

evokes what - always a smile, yeah it's expensive, i remember that you appeared on the set, it was in moscow