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, they have become adults, they have become creators on the verge of millennia, our guests today are representatives of new russian prose, this is asya volodina, this is evgeny kremchukov and ekaterina manoila. well, at this point we will open the spoiler a little, well, actually, mine interlocutors and authors of many works, but each of them probably has the main novel at the moment, this is the protagonist asya volodina, the magical choir of the kremchuks. evgeniy's father looks to the west, ekaterina manoila. and , of course, we won’t retell or tell what it’s about, but i’ll still say in one phrase, well, we tried to retell anegin, it would have turned out vulgar, well , he comes, he kills villages, well, my god, and then he falls in love late, well or it’s a bummer that it’s impossible to retell it at all, a person deprives himself of everything on the couch. well, but nevertheless axis volodina and roman, for my taste, are in the english spirit, but such an oxford academic crowd. in which

various interesting events take place, a university party, zhenya kremchukova has an affair with friends , well, it’s also such a very humanly understandable romance, how growing up friends feel their connection with a time, with a place, they also have a lot of events going on, well, katya manuela has an affair about the frontier, where there are two religions, islam and christianity, where people seem to be divided between these worlds. interesting books, by the way, i think, but what did you feel or what event became an indicator for you that it worked out? for me, such an indicator was the moment when i suddenly discovered that the world that i was still writing was not finished yet, it was beginning to partly live its own life, it was acquiring a certain autonomy from my plan, pushkin writes:

every day i receive some kind of then reviews from readers on social networks, and for me, probably, this is the most important indicator, what is the response? yes, yes, yes, of course, asya, you, i probably have more in this regard a formal approach, because by the time the protagonist finished, i already had a finished novel, part of the picture, and well, this is at the same time practically, but somehow well , conventionally for the reader, yes, therefore, well, that is, i had the feeling that i could create text. worlds and yes, that is, before

the protagonist, i knew that i could make a text that was worth something, and the protagonist simply helped, well, set the bar higher actually, but i had such a rather formal approach that there was an author, and there is a writer, the writer needs publications, while i didn’t have a book publication, the one who brilliantly plays hamlet in front of the mirror, he’s still a hallway person, even if he has the feeling that it’s turning out very cool, but still it’s not quite the same, right? katya , after all, a response is needed, a response is needed, it is needed, but it should come later, now it’s time for the presenter’s column, as you may remember, in the middle of our issue, i read something, three options: either it’s an old one a book, or it’s a quote from a classic, or it’s a poem, well, today there will be an old book, but very unusually young. before the old book,

because this book was published in 1982, this is the debut book of the wonderful poet ivan fedorovich zhdanov, dissertations are now being written, like this...

that this reality is not the one we see, pain is wasting, like a bumblebee yearning for flight . the point is that we are in everyday life, not the one that is already all written down, as we talk about icons and paintings, everything is described in classical poetry, this is a completely new reality, which is realized as if for the second time, i will also read a poem from here, which is very this was a test for many. perception , don’t try the pen, perception, i’ll tell you a secret right away, it’s about how the saxophone plays, it ’s about music, master, occupy the bases of open voices, puppy throats, gill slits, before silent

projections of forests stick to your wall, he fell silent , the dusk looked around, like a pastor, getting rid of the influx, like a glass blower, he probed the ceilings, and the temple stood , and the chalk bore flowers, he left, invisible and weightless, but harder than stone, warmer than a creature, and the pistrot of the viviparous gloom, he was covered with a map of chromosomes, so covered with a flying shell his immortal exhalation, which seemed to be inside him, no longer began and did not end, the starry crowd around him was swelling , the lanterns were swelling, music was flying in glass balls , a trombone was blowing, colored bubbles were heard somewhere every now and then, i’m suffocating, stuffy, open and heaven, heated breath, you raised vapors like nickel, yesterday the fog from

the clotheslines blew away the gramophone laziness in circles, your birch tree on the seamstresses' scissors, here... the suspect is approaching me, i repeat, he is coming to me, all pps squads and assigned units are announced full combat readiness, i'm calling, i just wanted to say, please be careful, okay, i'll try, leave it... in peace, let me build a new life with her, or should i help you with this somehow, don't interfere, undercover taxi, premiere from monday on the first, yes, vyacheslav mikhailovich, there is, i

’m already eating, the name of this republic translates as golden mountains, local residents remember all their ancestors, this is where it is located. entrance to the mystical land of shambhala, welcome to one of the most picturesque regions of our countries, gorny altai. why are you treating otchag? we believe that everything is alive and there is a spirit around it all. this broth contains almost all amino acids known to science. this action is dangerous, why in the run morality jumps to a height of 2 m. go away, life. its premiere on sunday at the first, well, i’ll ask you about this again burning issue and this time i’ll start with my wife: is it possible now to engage only in literature and live only on royalties? you can do it,

but not everyone succeeds, not everyone, i think, the best or the worst? well, there are many different literatures, generally modern. this is how it should be, but who do you introduce yourself to in life , so you meet in a company, you say, am i a prose writer or after all, no, i say , i’m probably a writer, a writer, yes, well, okay, now asya, you are the most socialized , after all, yes, a person like that, well, a candidate of sciences, i, i know what this is, i’m also a candidate of sciences, well, actually, in my current life these three letters are only needed for weight, this is kf, right? yes, i usually position myself more like a teacher, because i continue

to teach my estonian language, and not only in reality, and a writer, well, this is my conditionally subpersonality, that is, i even share some of my names a little, i have asya for a writer, yes, you are actually anastasia, yes, yes, i have anastasia vseval for my teacher, i have nastya for my friends, these people, they usually intersect, but this is still not what it was. from romain on the mountain and emil azhar, we recall that the writer, whose last name was katsev, received the competition prize twice, contrary to the rules, because that he received it under two different names, once under the pseudonym emil azhar, another time romain kari, well, that is, you have not the same case, not different literary names, like andrei senyavsky and abram tertz, for example, this is a worldly name and a literary , different modes of existence, let’s say, are now in front of you.

not to be confused, by the way, it’s a very literary theatrical name, but what about katya, i’m really afraid to think, there are also some kind of substitutes, deputies, what if you’re not katya or a manuila, but mary edgeward, for example, or mary shelley, who knows, no, no, no, no, i ekaterina manoela, please love, we love. yes , i think, if we return to the first question , is it possible to live, depending on how you live, and it’s also good, good, of course, because i once said a couple of times that, well, this is literature , no one comes here for the money, on the other hand, i thought that it’s probably not very correct to say that either, because there are literary awards that i also received, and either they can’t support them for a long time anyway , i’m saying, depending on how you live, depending how to live.

but is it possible to do without something that, well

, doesn’t happen every day, without murders, without some terrible things, here are three questions in any order, now i’ll start again, starting with great literature, i must immediately make a reservation that i, for example, they do n’t always include it in it precisely because i use all sorts of enticing things, some people don’t , but this is a modern question, but i remember some introductory article here. soviet literature leads to some kind of, no, not even john’s novel faus, to his collection of essays, which began that faus, as an excellent fiction writer, skillfully used genre techniques, when i read this phrase, i realized that i was ready to be a fiction writer like faus, whom we studied, actually at the philology department, just in case let's comment on the case by john falus, a wonderful english novelist and philosopher , author of books, collector, wolf, in the russian translation, yes, beautiful, by me, when... very favorite books, yeah, and it seems to me that modern authors, well, at least , if

we talk about our generation, in many ways treat literature as a whole, not as a tiered system of floors, where there is great literature, such as ticketing and genre literature, but as a certain field, that is, you take your basket, walk along this field and pick those berries that you are interested in, need does not deny the fury, there are tiers, there are fly agarics. soup, yes, well, i don’t know, there are mushrooms that just need to be boiled for a long time, yeah, but to make them edible, that is , you can also use some elements of the same genre literature, as i, for example, do in in both of my novels and not only in them, part of the picture and the protagonist, we remind you that one way or another i refer to cocoladematic plots there, or moreover, in the protagonist there is such an obvious homage

to the paperback love-crime novel of the nineties, where a girl is squeezed in his arms bandit that i do this quite well. he touched it with his hand, this is my favorite phrase in a translated novel, something like that, moreover, i even imitate stylistically, and it seems to me that due to the fact that we probably grew up in the nineties, when all the boundaries were shifting a lot, that is, there were a lot of even , well, cultural mizallians, i would say, when , in principle, well, the previous hierarchy was demolished, well, that is, it seems to me that we have grown. in some chaos, and we are used to collecting different elements from this chaos and putting them into our texts, so our literature is such a borderland, well, chaos is in this case a productive concept, yes, this is diversity, this is the forest in which it is necessary not to collect fly agaric, but i know what you will say here

these three terrible questions, what is great literature, who is the hero and what? i would distinguish great literature not technically, as it seems to me, not by use, but if the main task of genre literature is entertainment. if i don’t like it, that’s always my problem, i don’t like it, try the soup , and then you’ll like it, i’d rather have some candy right away, how to work for those who are used to looking for easy ways, like a great author, does he have the rights to the first phrase - this is

the main thing in the novel in general. ruled without her, everything was mixed up in the oblonskys’ house, bravo, i really appreciate it i like the phrase from one english novel, and the boys were the first to run to the place of execution, great, i like that one day they were playing cards with the horse guard narumov, the queen of spades, what else is there, mother died at a stranger’s house albert kamen, yes, and remember the first phrase? of your novels, of course, which ones , this will be another spoiler, asya, well, i don’t remember, and asya doesn’t remember, but it’s even more interesting, you could pretend that you remember which one, i ’ll say then two, two of my novels, just not remembers, father looks to the west, it's gloomy the three-story building in which moratik was born and died resembled a funeral home, well, right away

it was darkness, uh-huh, immediately darkness, he died, maratik, a small child died, as we later find out, this is already the case, we deprived katya of the answer to what great literature is, yes already i have nothing to add , no, well, after all, do you have your own opinion or not, well - and there are also two more who are your hero, the third asya, you can’t do without blackness, you can’t live without blackness, it’s impossible, it seems to me, well, this there will be a lie, a terrible thing, please, this is personal experience,

yaroslav the nineties, naturally, in my there was something in the background that is gradually being smoothed out. sometimes i also find myself in some corner of moscow and see that the life that i have already forgotten a little is alive, well, i haven’t seen murders for a long time, thank god, or scenes of violence, except for the screen , yeah, except for books, including ekaterina manoela, yes, sorry for that, no, why forgive me, i can’t tear myself away, this is like that case, i’ll give a compliment, personally, when you just swallow, because i have to tell you, dear our interlocutor, that i'm very strict, i'm an editor, when i i’m reading something wrong, my face is like that of an astronaut being rotated in three planes, it immediately begins to turn into a grimace, who is your hero? my hero, a product of his time, so far here are two of my books, they are probably in time, here and there there are sisters, there are real ones, here they are, as it were,

heroin, which and heroes who are, as it were , plus or minus my same age, yes, that is, it’s like that for everyone, and more or less for everyone, zhenya , it’s like that for you too, it’s important, that’s probably the most important answer, as evgeniy kremchukov and... yes, how to become a millennial, you need to become young, beautiful, confident, feel strong, then, then you will succeed. the very last question for today, what kind of book would you like to write, let’s start with katya, now, now i’m writing the third book and... my goal and dream to write it is to write it the way i intended it, it’s called the golden boy, this is about a child growing up in a family from gold miners, here i

do it, as if i challenge myself, firstly , i have different layers of time there, this is time different geography, an unusual boy and not a girl, but this is magadan, they are the steppes and moscow that i know there, so i have great ambitions. and the dream is to make it very good, so that later we will say: oh, this is great literature. tasya, and for me, probably , the form and some challenges that are specifically related to the form, to the genre, to the work, to the genre are very important, because i, well, in terms of the painting , one way or another, i probably worked with the novel ideas, roughly speaking, in the protagonist, of course, this is a reworking of ancient tragedy, in many ways, what's in the title? yes, now i know that there is a certain set of genres that i would like to work with, find their core and

maybe break these genres, for me, for example, a very mysterious and incomprehensible genre is a love story, we have no such thing as a russian love story, russian authors write us under pseudonyms, they write under foreign pseudonyms, because russian will not be read, because our love. she is suffering and blackness, here are all the knights, ladies and so on, they are all there, so i’m interested in understanding what kind of specifics, let’s say, a russian romance novel might break her. mikhail bakhtin, the great russian philologist and philosopher, said that there is a memory of a genre, and a genre is not only the type of composition of a text, but also the type of emotion that it delivers, yes, it’s very interesting to work with this, but i’m even afraid to imagine that will zhenya kremchakova answer? i will try to answer as a poet. but i would like to write such a novel, such a book, so that it becomes for its reader an offer that cannot be refused, so that it is air and a stone

flying in this in this air, yeah, and well, window, poetry, in fact, yes, because poetry is generally excluded from fees, from circulation, yes, this question simply does not arise there if the poetry, as my students and actors say, hits you... katya, let’s talk again and again, well

, until we meet again, zhenya, goodbye, see you, dear interlocutors, i, as always, say my sacred mantra: read with pleasure, dear friends. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, and this is a space stories podcast. today we will talk about space experiments that are carried out on cosmonauts at the stage of preparation for space flight, during their flight to the iss and after returning to earth. this developer is my guest. experiments, elena fomina, elena is the head of a very interesting department, i 'm afraid i'll get the name wrong.