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the station in this sense, angara is a kind of embodiment of the dream of sergei korolev; back in the sixties, he thought about the project of the n1 super-heavy rocket for the construction of an orbital station and flights to the moon. this space truck was supposed to use the cuirassin-oxygen fuel pair, just like the angara. now we have to launch a grandiose space construction project in orbit, and the main workhorses in this project will be launch vehicles, the first to be fully designed and built in a modern one. russia, which means every year more and more more viewers will be able to watch such beautiful launches from the vostochny cosmodrome. pyotr deryagin, ekaterina belova, alexey labushkin, anastasia berestenko, channel one. that's all, keep an eye on the time, stay up to date with events, now on the first channel, what, where and when, the spring series of games.
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today, the owner of the crystal sala, journalist vladimir stepanov, teacher alexander masyagin, journalist oleg ovchinnikov, engineer yuri filippov, are playing against tv viewers. psychologist anastasia shutova and team captain, owner of a diamond and four crystal owls, master of the game, what where and when, maxim patashov.
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playing against maxim batashov's team today are dmitry timofeev - samara, nadezhda krayushkina ramenskaya, pyotr akulov - moscow, andrey koltsov, st. petersburg, blitz sector, natalia antonova, irina proshina, tatyana egorova, veliky novgorod, superblitz sector, andrey skubkho, yes. points, score 0:0, first round. good evening, dear tv viewers, good evening, dear experts, mr. potashov, good evening, good evening, last year your team received a prize. golden minute for
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the hottest moment of discussion in the 2023 season . this award gives you the right to take an extra minute of discussion at any time during this season. maxim, you are simply saying, we want to take advantage of the golden minute, and the manager himself will turn over the hourglass. let me remind you that this opportunity is only one for the entire season. if you spend it today, then... you will continue the season without it. and we start with ramensky. playing against you is a chemical engineer, nadezhda krayushkina, the city of ramenskaya, moscow region. mr. ovchinnikov, good evening. good evening, mr. presenter. this type of painting really appeals to the mass viewer who does not come to see the paintings, but to visit.
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look at the komsomolskaya station or in the kazansky railway station building, but the metro is enough. vladimir 1:0 used znatak. the interests of experts today are protected by an adviser general director of the state corporation rosatom andrey cheremisin. good evening andrey. you know, every game becomes history, but every viewer remembers something different. for me, for example, the last game was , first of all, the insight of mikhail skipsky. and for you, andrey. mister presenter, i generally have such a good memory, i remember many games that i played at this place, but i remember the past because you agreed with me and allowed me to replay one of the rounds, which happens extremely rarely, i understood your hint, but interests of tv viewers
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mrs. shutova, you agree that in the game, what where, when, insight is sometimes more valuable than the final one the score, no, the main score for you is, i want to win, yes, but what is more valuable to you, individual insight or team promotion, question? in fact, both are very beautiful, so you can’t choose here, the main thing is that it happens, well, it won’t be said in front of alexey yayazve, memory is important, here you are they promised anastasia to make a butterfly for me with her own hands, they did it, and i’ve been flying ever since,
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so, vladimir stepanov, what did the poet compare to forests? what forests were we talking about? well, there was a talk apparently about scaffolding, he compared it with these scaffoldings, most likely the size of the verse, according to which words are added there, stringed together, a poem is formed. try to repeat his thoughts, what happened is the size of the verse. a verse is like scaffolding, on which the entire verse is built accordingly, just like this, like on the lattice of these scaffolding, but the scaffolding is removed later, yes, but the builder, and the size of the verse remains, attention, the correct answer, poet stepan shchepachev spoke about scaffolding, you are right about that, but with he compared the drafts with scaffolding. as korniy chukovsky did in the previous question. 1:1, 100,000 rub.
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andrey mishcheryakov from otgarsk will receive from alfa bank. third round. mr. ovchinnikov, the third round has arrived, the third qualifying game, and you are playing your third game at the club. and for now, oleg, only. victory, that you are haunted by the laurels of actor john casali, all of whose films were nominated for an oscar, well, i would not mind this option, i thought about it, i won’t hide it at the last game, when this question was asked. oleg, look, in every game you managed to give at least one correct answer, today we’ll raise the stakes or we’ll limit ourselves to this second blitz question, well, the blitz question is half, let’s read it.
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musician pyotr akulov from moscow is playing against you. now she is finishing her death and will leave the real world on the stage, reflecting what was not with her, but what is in her. this is how he commented on a photograph of a famous actress taken in the theater's rattle room. journalist and photographer yuri rost, he called this photo the same name as the work that is behind the scenes. attention, question: what is happening behind the scenes, something is unknown, anticipation, this is magritte, where they are with some actress of ours , playing off her last name, for example, her green, amenskaya.
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sometimes they leave the main one, sometimes they release a backup, it all depends, so it’s a very subtle matter, but who is okay from an emotional point of view, and from any point of view, winline users, because they have access to an updated freebet 3.00 rubles without any conditions without any problems, to do this you just need to download the mobile application, this is exactly the free bet it is replenished immediately and you can use it for absolutely any competition, thanks denis. children are learning to do the heimlich maneuver, the first one didn’t help, we’ll save, come on, this is help for those who choked, you see, the balls flew, it turned out how to save
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has always made it a grave insult, so you can only fight fascism. premiere, ordinary fascism two. tomorrow on the first. haunted with fabulous ease the resort turned into the capital of world cinema. mr. wenders, why are you repeating yourself? and i ’m not repeating myself, my god, there are no doors, in this film i play a negative hero, i’m an avenger, i just left. the script is real literature, we can’t leave it,
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thousands of journalists came to kan for the festival, this is not a movie anymore, please be careful, jack, damn, it hurts, i feel like i ’m made from a single piece of cinema , from head to toe, thank you for being here, matodore on friday. first of all, this is a festival where there are films for everyone, this is cannes, hello everyone, my name is caroline, my father is an optimist so he thinks that i’m half white, kvn, major league, new season, on saturday on the first, what do you have in my hands, this is my autobiography, autobiography, read
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thank you, alexey. beserd. it’s very unclear, you are showing me a top today, i have a hard time guessing, you can already show it from above. please, played by accountant irina proshina. urban-type settlement bezert, sverdlovsk region. mr. filippov, look at the screen. do you recognize anyone? hello. on the left is a swede named lars, on the right is the german clemens, at the top is the frenchman paul, at the bottom is the czech boguslav. one famous compatriot of ours, at the end of the 19th century.
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mr. filippov, yuri, in your interview before this game, i noticed, you know what, that you don’t review your games, because you say, i’m still shy how i look on screen. there is a little bit like that, yes, this is yuri after 7 years in the club. well, i think that sooner or later it will pass. yuri, come on, stop being shy, i ’ll tell you from personal experience, in 20 years it will be worse. i'll try to keep myself in shape, mr. presenter. saint petersburg. a turner, andrey koltsov, from the city of st. petersburg, is playing against you. mrs. shutova, what a handsome man. look at the screen. you may not know the name of this bird, but you definitely know the phrase that has become
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on... well, i managed to come up with that too, yes, i probably know what a cardinal bird looks like, well, you see, but unfortunately, it fell out for you, unfortunately, in this game, the score becomes 3:2, 3 :2 in favor of the attack, yuri filippov brings an extra minute to think for his team, the sixth round. mr. stepan,
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you have a lot of experience, you have come to our house many times along the path of the boring garden. tell me, at this moment, what is the difference between your internal state when you go to watch and when you go to play? when i i’m walking along the path of a not boring garden, it all depends on what the weather is like, when it rains it’s quite dirty there, it’s not very pleasant. playing or watching depends on the state, well, it’s different, it’s probably different, but it’s always a little nervous, yes, you’re even worried, you just know, it seems to me that they come to watch relaxed, now about brest, they come relaxed, that’s why they answer standing at the table better than inside, here it’s important to let go of the situation, in my
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opinion, but sorry, i’m distracted, let’s brest, brest, the computer science teacher is playing against you, tatyana shepyatukha from brest, mr. skipsky. well, somehow they came up in pairs with questions that you had at the game, now it will be interesting how you react to this one. behind the scenes we have the answer, mr. potashov, to a chinese riddle, a bow made of wood, a bowstring made of iron, two people pull, but do not shoot, thunder rumbles in the air, but there is no rain, snowflakes float before our eyes, attention to the question, what do we have with behind the scenes?
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tell me, vladimir, you decided this based on the text, or did you just give the answer very quickly, or have you heard such a riddle? i don’t read riddles, no, that is, this image worked for you, mr. kozlov, but how did your team react to this one? it seems to us that volodya answered correctly, in any case it is very similar to the truth, to the truth, now attention, the correct answer, mr. stepanov, is behind the scenes. look, what you described, a two-handed saw, 4:2, mr. elkis, how good it is to play without
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a decisive round, everyone in the club is friendly, no one is against teams, you agree, i absolutely agree, mr. presenter, but you know, it seems to me that those who disagree also have those who want to. you know, i’m very glad that we have only kind people in our club, but not entirely, today mikhail borshchevsky came to us, but tell mikhail ivich, are you a friendly person or are you against it, you know, now i’ll surprise you,
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today he’s friendly, because, firstly, i really like how the game is going, i mean autumn, winter, now the spring game has become, it seems to me, more dramatic, more acute, more competitive. in general, you know my dislike for young teams, historical, but the young teams that are now in the club, and young for me are those who are less than 10 years old, at my age it already seems so, so i really like young teams, i in general , i like that things have changed in the club now, the club has become a little different, but it has become, well, for me it has become interesting, there was a period when i became bored, uninteresting, now it has been revived, and so today i am friendly, good. i'm glad you're like this friendly came to visit us, the seventh round, mr. masyagin, alexander, tell me , is it better for you to play when the score
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doesn’t matter, you just need to win, or is it more stressful for you when you need to take the decisive round there, something like this, whichever you like best, it seems to me, you always just have to choose one way or another. do you like it when it’s calm, yes, well, of course it’s better to be calmer, but you have to play the way the game is going, because you don’t have to choose, tell me, people like that often say, you have to play every question.
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channel. new attacks on the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. this is terrorism, this is terrorism in its purest form. terrorist attacks are perceived as an attack, and any attack unites the people. who is to blame according to kiev? the ukrainian regime is repeating itself. we heard something similar in '22 . it's not us, it's them themselves.
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they turned onto kolomenskaya, they need help from everyone nearby. how did you know there was a raid will it be on the bank? a thorough investigation will be carried out regarding the turbine, if you find something related to the turbine, do i consider this a negotiation? you think he’s a rat, i’m from the police, i know, i didn’t recognize him, an undercover taxi, the premiere, tomorrow after the program time, zoya borisovna personifies the century, all her life she has been doing what she loves, she creates around herself... centers of culture, not to mention her literary
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works, which have been translated into many languages, 100 years, this will definitely be written out of spite, a special attitude towards talents, she i felt them right instantly, she is an amazing girl, at 100 years old, she is a very young man, i can’t live without work at all, i have to go somewhere, help someone, andrei andreevich voznesensky, after meeting zoya borisovna, dedicated: poem : remain, light, fleeting, incessant, i don’t blame you for passing, i thank you for coming. andrei generally had two priorities in life: his work and my mother. the eclipse of the heart came, andryushka and i lived very friendly, it was his song that reflected the moment of our the only quarrel. to mark the centenary of zoya baguslavskaya, premiere on tuesday on the first.
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shall i get the document? military prosecutor's office, colonel shilov, this is captain ilagina. you are afraid? well, i don't feel comfortable. would you figure it out, svetlana petrovna, which of you is the commander here? otherwise i’ll be thrown out? from the command forest, ask for whatever you want, and you know what i want, would you like to send some news to vanya, according to the laws of
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war, new episodes, soon, on the first. now the question is, where is the real map? if it falls into the hands of the germans, they will know the direction of the main attack, that’s it, i don’t even want to think. mr. kazansky, we talked four rounds ago, the score was 2:1 in favor of the tv viewers. four rounds passed and the score was 5:2 in favor of the experts. do you like the game that maxim potoshov’s team is showing today? yes, you know, the name of the team already dictates its ambitions. which means there is an increased pressure of expectation from the team, in such a situation, when there is a high class, there is such a challenge to play with this class, but in my opinion today they are incredibly focused and give versions, and correct, already in the first seconds of the discussion this indicates powerful preparation, but the score 5:2 is quite deceptive, and it seems to me that everything is just beginning, the tension will
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grow, the tension is such that it can be cut with a knife, you know, like dessert it will come a little later, so the knife also came up, as in the seventh game. gagarin cup in hockey, when there is a game up to four victories, when everything is possible, by the way, tomorrow everything is possible, tomorrow we will find out the name of the second finalist of the main hockey tournament in our country, and this is a spectacle, this is nerve, these are emotions, and this is a spectacle, nerve, emotions - it’s all winline without winline, everything looks different, everyone who hasn’t joined, join in, everyone who has joined, don’t stop there, thank you, denis, the eighth round. dear tv viewers, i remind you that in the final of the spring series the team of experts that will win the last victory over the tv viewers will play, that is, mr. potashov, if you win, your team will beat alena polosheva’s team, but there is still a game ahead for the team of denis elkis, who can you in
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turn around. maxim, how did you manage to do this with one. is this the way the top collects questions, don’t you think? we didn’t do anything special, mr. presenter, we just played, well, let’s see, i think you had cases when you reached samara from 52 to 5:5, engineer dmitry timofeev from samara was playing against you, attention, a black box. dear experts, it’s surprising, but what is now in the black box became popular with us only 100 years ago, it was first brought to russia at the end of the 19th century, this is how it is advertised in the newspaper oryol vestnik in
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i didn’t practice much, i was with the guitar with all my heart, but who could have imagined that lenin, vladimir ilyevich, like now, would help me out, well, of course i didn’t know him, as you understand, in general, when the beatles ceased to exist, it was a tragedy of a lifetime for us, but where next? go so what, here’s their latest record, well, i tried a lot. in these directions, my older brother advised me to listen to this, this, jimmy hentrix was like that, which i didn’t like at all then, then, of course, 10 years later i understood what his merits were, what, why he was so famous, everything anyway, it wasn’t my thing, but i appreciated it, in general, at my brother’s suggestion, i
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with a guitar, so i had to deceive her, that is, i stayed somewhere at a classmate’s birthday party, or or with a girl, we went to the cinema somewhere for the last showing, in fact, i stood and, and to earn money with music for that moment somehow it wasn’t very right, not my mother, she was wise, my mother, she just didn’t want it all to come together like that for me, that is, me... i like it, and they also pay me money and that i would generally turn in this direction so that i could easily, by the way, well, of course, in general it turned out that an all-ukrainian competition was announced in kiev for the centenary of lenin, i began to prepare, all special music schools participated, it’s like we have today
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final departure to classical music, a year later, i was in the tenth grade, a year later i entered the moscow conservatory, and i must say that when i heard some in the genre in which i performed with a guitar, performance, nostalgia tormented me so much, you don’t pick up an electric guitar now, no, well, i have one, but i
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forgot, of course, it looks like john len today. they compare me with others to someone from alpacin and some other actor with nikita sergeevich mikhalkov, but he was amazing. the occasion was a film festival, in general, i was wearing a long coat, my instrument was hidden under my coat, nikita was making a speech, the opening of the film festival, nicholson was sitting in the front row, and nikita said, but here we have a surprise, coming to us the guest and alpa chyuna had also arrived, which means i was leaving, and this is in russia, yes, and the whole hall was roaring, and... nicholson was in the first row , so someone stood up, but he doesn’t know how to play the viola like yuri bashmet, here i am standing and you weren’t offered to act as
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an actor in the cinema, you offered, once the very black same nikita sergeevich offered, but it didn’t work out in terms of timing, i had a tour, here’s the kreutzer sanata - this is schweitzer, i i passed all the tests. uh, well there it is, i have a 3- week tour in japan at this time of filming this film, and so it happened, in general i refused, and then i was glad that i refused, because there is a lot of text, that’s where i still had to take part a little, this is asa-2, at seryozha’s, we were friends with him and often saw each other quite well , suddenly he made such an offer, but i refused, because... i understand that this is not my thing, i refused, refused, he says, but we can drink coffee, yes, of course, we sat down in a cafe, a cup of coffee, and i i say, well,
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look, you see my schedule, and i took it with me, this is what filming can be like, you see, i’m not in moscow for more than 200 days a year, seryozha takes out a piece of paper from his pocket and says, on such and such a date, you... when all this passed, well, i can’t watch myself there, i watched this film - except for one frame, when i am silent, and it’s the cameraman’s fault, he somehow luckily
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caught me at some point there, regarding the schedule, i was once driving around moscow along a busy street, i noticed that on the left to the right of there were posters on the road with different projects, but with your participation everything, well , the question is, how do you keep up? some secrets, but there are also projects, well, in which it is absolutely clear that you love various experiments, there is this craving for experimentation, of course, so that the piggy bank that each of us has, the piggy bank of impressions, phenomena, uh, even one word, intonation, one look, or the curtain moved a little from the breeze or, if you chew it all carefully. morning to night, this is of course impossible, but we need to strive for this, it seems to me, but in order for this piggy bank to develop, for it to be dimensionless, it is necessary try, if you don’t notice anything like that,
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then let’s provoke it myself so that something happens, in this sense, an experiment is very good, because then, what is intuition, in a scene, let’s say, then suddenly it’s completely wrong.. . how did you prepare for something during rehearsals, but thanks to all that preparatory base, you then have the opportunity to improvise, this is my theory, you can disagree with this, i also call it intuition, on stage, then when you have it. there is this piggy bank, that is, here this feeds intuition, and then the courage of improvisation, and as for direct experiments, yes, well, i had such cases, uh, when a computer composer, a neural network, yes, we did such a premiere,
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well, yes, then we performed it several times in sochi at the festival in moscow, then svetovmusika, that’s all, i’ve never heard anything about it, i haven’t seen it, i don’t know. well, there was a premiere of this work at the festival in yaroslavl, what is it? again, i'm not a professional at this, but every color has a gamut. other colors that we we don’t see, it turns out, the abertones in every musical sound, these are the same rays that are not heard, not visible, but, but without this there would not be this sound, the very one that we hear, we tried this, very much it’s not easy, i don’t think this genre has a great future, mass appeal, such experiments are very unique things, exclusive, of course, and this is necessary. then
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it was funny, in order to perform this piece, we needed half an hour before the concert, so that the instruments were tuned differently than usual, that is, in simple terms, they were upset, how interesting, and then it was very funny, because there are such traditions, probably in all orchestras, so you swiped there, and they suddenly started playing? completely different, but he choked, you see, the balls flew, it turned out about how to save an adult child, even children can do this, about many other, important and interesting things, we will tell you in the program to live, great, tomorrow on the first, all one by one diagram, a car pulls up, a girl gets in, he stops in a quiet place, picks up money, jewelry, throws it away girl from the car, a man in a clown mask
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continues to scare the city residents, please help, quietly, quietly, police, police, calmly, in her words, the criminal looks very much like you, like me, undercover taxi, premiere, tomorrow after program time, and you are not afraid that it may be a mistake that we are with you now. we continue our conversation on the first channel in the creative industry podcast, elena kiper, roman karmanov are still with you, and our guest is yuri abramovich bashmet, if i may have a few words about artificial intelligence, now there is a big discussion about the future and what artificial intelligence will bring, maybe it will replace it altogether, until a human heart is inserted into this robot, the robot will not compose music. tchaikovsky, this
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cannot be constructed, and i think that the strength is of human sensations, just if all this, artificial intelligence, develops wildly, then the strength of a person is in his weakness, compared to, if this intelligence grows to an incredible level, that he will be able to do everything at heights, but he will still lose.
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artificial intelligence, and these are dead voices, this is a dead, how to say, actually soulless melody, a lot, yuri abramovich spoke about the emotions that a person accumulates in order to create, and for this magic to appear, here is artificial intelligence i’m not able to give birth to magic, let’s see what happens in 5 years, yuri abramovich, going back years ago, after the competition, that means where he helped you. cry there were many other competitions, there were there are a lot of other victories, they were very important, there were less important ones and so on, but competitions are always a desire to win, well, of course, a desire to win, although i know some, there are such examples, one conductor, when he needed money, he was going to the next conducting competition, it doesn’t matter whether it’s the first or second prize, it’s money, and he... so he went 10 times, just
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earning money, and i also know one girl who also participates, that’s how she is, i say , why did you play, what’s next, what does this competition give you, she says, and i i wanted to go on vacation to turkey for 3 weeks, the motivation is such a practical approach, of course there is, they are mainly preparing for the competition in order to... of course, they are very upset when it is not the first prize, but the second. and you act as a mentor, musicians will come to you and learn from you, because... everything you tell is the most valuable information, because you convey it like a master, you can even say, i believe that power lies in that you yourself don’t know for sure, that’s serious, but you think that you i just haven’t prepared myself yet, i haven’t grown up yet, but you’re constantly rushing, that’s how i
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see myself, i can’t give some student a bad mark, because i know for sure, but it turns out he doesn’t know, so i know, but he didn't want it. do it and then go study? no, no, since i myself have doubts, then i accept doubts, but if there is mediocrity, that is, lack of relationship, it’s just like that, that is, a person studies formally, then i’m no longer interested, you probably know how much music centers there are many academies around the country, there are 16, thanks.
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svyatoslav teofilovich performed a lot with our genius richtor, and i once asked him whether his interpretation of the work of someone who plays for him changes. throughout his life, does his attitude change in connection with his experience and concert experience in connection with age, well, when we were already close, a lot...
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all the better, because this perception is pure, even with some, well that’s an insult, but in childhood, it has no size, today someone will somehow offend me, it won’t hurt more than when my toy was taken away when i was 2 years old, seriously, there’s no size, and there is the concept of resentment or the concept of pleasure or the concept of happiness, the same love. don't get me wrong, but i, i do i understand that love, in fact, as a concept, is the biggest.
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they have dresses, suits, but there is a tuscan plateau behind them, a little hazy, and these young men have very beautiful faces, but if you dress them in women’s dresses, these girls will be very beautiful, just don’t get me wrong, yeah, i'm normal, classically oriented, but we're looking forward to the end. you see, the viola is my instrument, this, this is cosmic love, higher than
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so confident, i say, we need to check, in my opinion, a little less. so gradually we begin to get closer, and this theme, this musical one, is that at this moment, well, imagine, this is not necessary, you need to draw pictures, that this is a musical episode, this is him coming or he is standing at the balcony romeo, no, you don’t have to do that, because the whole secret is precisely this: so that everyone who listens has their own story. i pictured it to myself, but the information is in the music itself,
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it will certainly lead to the goal, the address is still the same, in romeozhilet there are just episodes of doubt, episodes of some kind of wariness, then there is a culmination of a declaration of love and so on, here they are all already adults, i told you there are nine, but she is the only nine-year-old, and so there... the main cast is 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 here is the main cast, and the smallest of them are 7-10 people, then they don’t go on tour take a boy, a wonderful trumpeter, but he is 10 years old, he’s still light and small, and he’ll have to play a responsible solo there five times while traveling, it just won’t hold up yet, he still has to... learn from older ones, well,
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we don’t take them on serious tours, it’s possible for one concert if that’s in moscow or in st. petersburg, in general the orchestra has already seen europe more than once, seen asia, finally seen the country, because at some point i decided, what if we go. around the country, in interesting cities, so there are transfers every day, concerts every day, buses at 9:00 in the morning, we ordered them, waited for them, so, they took us on an excursion, well, this is a golden ring, everyone is absolutely standing there in the morning, everything is interesting to them, because they haven’t seen it, they haven’t even seen st. petersburg and, by the way, this is all thanks to the fact that everyone understands what it is.. . it’s necessary and it’s not just interesting, but as the eldest mikhalkov, the eldest, once said
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food, that is, already in moscow or near moscow, well, most often we had it in former rest homes, well, these are the food there, the grandmothers bake wonderful pies there, but they work brutally, guys, then they have food there 2 hours of rest, but what do they do, they play football, then study again, well, these training camps last 10 days, but how to organize them?
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climax and finally this is a divine theme, when they hug, then i say, you are ballet, can you imagine, juliet, ballet, romeo juliet, she runs, jumps, spins, he must catch her, partner, that is, romeo, at that moment he... forgot to take out his mobile phone, someone rang, he said, now, wait, he took the phone , yes, i can’t now, and she collapsed on the floor, they are all laughing, i say, so, well, you can’t tr, and then nothing, she rushed towards him, he must catch her, here’s the phone, all at once they thought about where their phones and children were, then they realized that everything
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must make sense if they were so busy only... energy, but where is the result? this means that all the time you need to somehow communicate with them in your own way. is management needed? can a creative person be a manager? there are all sorts of examples. in history, the brightest are ferrence list, who became his own manager, and nikola poganeni. when the soviet union collapsed, then those artists who were actively involved... the state concert is an organization that sent soviet musicians on tour, there were arts that the state concert was actively involved in, and there were arts that the state concert was not involved in at all, that is, they were listed there as a formal official, but he was not a manager for this artist, there were different
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reasons, and so when the soviet union collapsed, accordingly, the state concert too. what happened, those arts that the state concert dealt with, they basically lost their entire career, and those who, due to the fact that they didn’t work, nothing changed for them, the concerts continued, a vivid example in front of you is me, and also a more striking example is vladimir spivakov, yes, him, he traveled, of course, thanks to the state concert, but he always kept his finger on the pulse with these managers. which is what i did, so i broke up, god, so what, the same person in france, my manager, he stayed in italy, he stayed in japan, japan arts stayed there and icm in america and so on. is it necessary to do this? there is only one inconvenient question: how much are you worth? question of fee. very
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it was nice to look at these, then the question of the fee, it was resolved as if by itself, in general, i systematized all the knowledge, summed it up, unfortunately, we need to finish, how i would like to continue to continue to continue to receive so much important, valuable information from the master, thank you. our guest was people's artist yuri abramovich bashnet. hello, this is the badden baden podcast, and i am its host, konstantin severinov. today our guest is a virologist, academician of the russian academy. diseases with you, but i
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was going to talk about seasonal i would like to start by talking about the world health organization, since you have been an expert for a long time and representatives of russia in this organization, recently there are many people who doubt its feasibility, could you tell us what you did there and what you think in general about the cart? you know, i first came to the world health organization in geneva, it’s scary to think, in 1987-88, even then i represented the soviet union, we were invited by a large number of specialists in order to develop rules for testing vaccines against hiv infection, because then it was already before us, this is literally 3 years after the discovery. how to test it correctly, they invited lawyers, there were
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social workers, and i participated in the scientific part, that’s where the scientific basis is, and here’s how the vaccine works, doesn’t work, we wrote these rules, well, you see how many years have passed, yes vaccines in general, as it turned out, it’s not, but in front of us i’m talking about 20 people.
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there is elephant pox, monkey pox, which there was crocodile smallpox, there was a lot of it, but the smallpox we are talking about, natural smallpox, it’s called, only people get sick, so when the last person was cured, the population was vaccinated, a declaration was signed that it was called eradication, that is, eradication, there was complete eradication, so this is good, thank god, and of course they stopped even then... uh, they stopped vaccinations, museums remained, because they collected all the variants that were isolated from various regions of the world, our scientists,
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american scientists and uh, all these strains of viruses, they were concentrated in two laboratories, this is in atlanta in the united states of america, in our institute, because our institute played the role of the lead in eliminating the virus, in moscow, yes. in moscow, yes, yes, that’s what everyone said, that we have a museum there, 2 km from red square, so we transferred our museum to novosibirs in the vector, there are special conditions for working with... such viruses are especially dangerous, although they were created for us at the institute too such conditions, we had a special unit where they worked with this virus, and the assembly had to make a decision to liquidate these museums, while there seemed to be no smallpox on earth at all, but when they collected this one for the first time and you were for it , you were against it, well, you know how it happened when the first committee was assembled in order to
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we will never know this again, we will not see this, this is the first, second, we have not fully studied it, there are a lot of interesting genes , products and proteins, but this virus secretes which may prove useful to humanity in the future, thirdly, i was absolutely sure that the americans would still have a museum of military fordetri, in general, if this is poker, then someone might be a big fan, so you see what’s going on now. .. they go down with the so -called monkey smallpox, but this is not monkey smallpox at all, this is not monkey smallpox, this is rodent smallpox of ground squirrels, we just imagine a monkey with a banana in his hand or paw, yes, and they eat like people, that is, they have the same thing, they get infected from these ground squirrels, and then people become infected, that is, if there is rodent smallpox, which a person can get sick, then this suggests that someday something like this could suddenly happen
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which we need to protect ourselves from those variants in the next season, please explain what this means, look, the fact is that the influenza virus, that’s when the pandemic begins, it usually begins in the fall, and later it usually begins in southeast asia, and why there somewhere why there , you know, there are very good ones conditions for creating new variants of the influenza virus, the coronavirus also came from somewhere, yes, this is some kind of center just like that. the fact is that not only people get sick with the influenza virus, pigs and, most importantly , birds become infected and get sick with the influenza virus, but... in humans , about 12-13 variants of the influenza virus have been isolated from humans, and in birds - this dozens, in south-east asia there is such a cuisine , where
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people, pigs and birds live together, in general, quite closely together, this is such a kitchen, where, this is also a feature of the structure of the genome of the influenza virus, each gene is separate, and if it enters the same organism twice... there is an exchange of individual genes, the virus is rarely possible, but it turns out to be a new influenza virus, yes, this is the first case, the second the influenza virus itself, it is still passing through asia, through russia, through europe, this used to be the case classically, now, since people travel on planes quite quickly, to different parts of the world, it can happen much faster. go there, yes, well, in this cauldron in which viruses are boiled, it’s warm there all the time, there are no seasons, well , except for the rain, there are no rains, and there new viruses are constantly appearing, which for some reason end up in our country in the fall, or why does it come to us in the fall, in the fall and in the winter and are created,
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again for these viruses, why are they seasonal, yes, conditions are created, well , firstly, the human body, yes, when we get sick, when we get hypothermia, yes, when we have some, yes, when... no, these are just large gathered groups , yes, if one or two people get there, and already with this virus, then the virus spreads very quickly, uh, and the children bring it home, grandparents, fathers, mothers get sick,
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it starts, yes, this, and the flu is generally dangerous, that’s how many people in the world die from the flu every year on average, you know, uh, there ’s a lot of history here, look, we... diagnosed the flu, issued a sick leave, the patient was not cured, died, he is considered to have died from the flu. in america they think differently, because the flu, we are now talking about coronavirus, yes, about post-covid syndrome, all that, but the flu
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is very dangerous for people with chronic diseases, if, for example, in america a diabetic died from diabetes over the next two weeks after the flu, he is considered to have died not from diabetes but from the flu, because. that if he had not encountered this virus, he would have lived a long , happy life on his medications, but the influenza virus hit his immune system and endocrine system so hard that it was as if his medication no longer worked and he died, but then after all, since we have half as many people living here as in the states, we’ll assume that we have about 20 thousand people a year dies from the flu or its consequences, well , the approximate order, you know, i think it may be a little less, it all depends on how many people we vaccinate, the fact is that in the last decades we have been taking pre-covid vaccine again period, yes, we have enough, well, no matter how seriously the vaccination against
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influenza was taken, we vaccinated must be included in the vaccination calendar, no, it is not included in the vaccination calendar, but we had it free and primarily for those groups of the population that that's exactly what they are susceptible to. increased mortality, by the way, can be paid for, yes, there was an opportunity to get vaccinated there, if you don’t like the domestic vaccine, please get vaccinated, there is an imported vaccine, although by and large this does not matter much with the flu, since the composition of these vaccines, the technology there can be different, the composition of the vaccine is absolutely the same, but the composition is determined by who, who says, because every year a new virus comes out, but after a year it is the flu, but very different, it was at the beginning, what came out at the end, and we recommend one or another option, you you are they did it too, i did it too, i participated for many years, just like that, usually the who holds such a meeting in february, we analyze how...
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they asked someone for something, but usually not, because we didn’t produce the vaccine, yes, that is, that’s why i didn’t need it, but the manufacturers didn’t receive it right away, that is, they then had to develop this option there, and they were given it and they then calmly used these options and still do it, now they have well, we have a flu institute that generally controls all this, as far as i know, it nevertheless works according to the recommendation.
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of inhuman pragmatism to the world that it forever made it a grave insult, so one can only fight fascism. premiere, ordinary fascism 2, tomorrow on the first. this is the podcast baden baden and i am the host konstantin severinov, today we are talking about seasonal diseases and we are discussing this topic with academician vitaly zverev. we make a decision at the end of the episeason, that is, february, that is, everything ends in february, in march everything seems to be subsiding, these respiratory diseases, including the flu. and manufacturers have the whole summer, yes, in order to get to the fall, because they need to be vaccinated. not when the flu has already started, but in advance, because
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at least 2 weeks, but you need at least, in fact, you need more, but it is believed that in 2 weeks immunity is already formed, august or when, in principle, in principle it ’s best to do this in august, of course, that is , in advance and i don’t know, i do this every year, i have a huge family, i have nine grandchildren, we always do this around the end of august. it turns out before school, we even get ready, and the statistics in this case, well , people always have questions about statistics, well, about the effectiveness of the vaccine, about side effects, well, the flu vaccine has existed for a very long time, yes, that is, there is some data on this the score is, there is, you know, there is, of course, in fact, the effectiveness of influenza vaccines is about 8-8 85%, what does this mean, it means that the rest of them may have insufficient immunity, that is... and the number of antibodies, cellular immunity has not developed, that
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is, the flu vaccine is 100% effective, but it is not 100% effective, but there are statistics kept by our country and by other countries that those vaccinated against the flu still do not die from the flu, that is, they can get sick, these 15% or 10% there , well, it also depends a lot on which vaccine. vaccine, the authors always give 90-90 something, in fact it is a little less, well, people don’t know about this about the manufacturers, people people should only know the fact that if they get sick, a vaccinated person gets sick with the flu, then it will be easy, milder, like a cold usually goes, without these complications, without pneumonia, and this is very similar to the situation with coronavirus vaccines, when they were used during. this
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is not entirely true, the viruses are different, yes, the flu vaccine has been around for 50 years, yes, we use different flu vaccines, yes, and here the technology is already established, everything is clear here, there are practically no side effects, that’s what concerns vaccines that have been used in united states in america, then it doesn’t work out there, there are no such statistics, if you look at the incidence curve and compare it with the vaccine curve.
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always everywhere, but on public transport, yes, when it’s boring, when you can’t keep this distance, you still need to put them on, this is the second time, it’s not necessary, i understand that everyone wants to lead an active life, yes, but still, in this period, when the rise in morbidity begins, it ’s better i would like to wait it out and try to spend time outdoors, walking in the park, and not sitting somewhere in a movie theater, where...
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this is actually really effective, because people with good immunity, they get sick easier or don’t get sick , yes, but what is good immunity? food, yes, definitely that is, it should be correct and rational, this is sports, walking in the fresh air, that is, these are the usual recommendations, which, well-fed and so on, many say, there are vitamins, you know, i am a little cautious about this. because vitamins are still preparations, they are medicines, they have a chemical formula, they are built into our metabolism, a doctor should recommend them, now you can just come in, determine the immune status, yes, to a degree, then he will tell you to take it, here you need this you hear, everyone there is now starting
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to become passionate about vitamin d, and there are children there and something else, and then they come to the doctor, and they have a problem with their kidneys, because everyone can buy the product, they are delicious, i remember in in childhood, the whole jar, you know, sauerkraut contains this vitamin c, that is, you will have enough, i don’t know from this jar there is a week’s supply of this vitamin c, but medicines, all the medicines, they don’t recommend all the medicines for the flu anymore when you got sick, when you got sick these it’s already a little late to take medications, that is , they need to be done in advance like vaccinations , yes, but in advance it all affects. on the stomach, on our intestines, disrupts the microflora and so on, it’s necessary to somehow catch this moment when you feel this
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it will continue all the time, what can we expect in the spring, good weather mood in the spring, but the main thing to remember is that in the summer the time for intestinal infections will come, because all the conditions will be created for them, yes, these are viral infections... bacterial, not only viral ones, there are several, there are noroviruses, yes, for example, there are rotaviruses, which cause yes, especially in children , very serious diseases, that is, rotavirus can be classified as a seasonal disease, it’s just that the season for it is in the summer, because we are all vegetables in larger numbers, although in fact , rotavirus infection is still difficult
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to do as such a classic example of seasonality, because they get sick and... in fact, in winter, it’s just always more in summer, because the conditions, again, yes , are created for all these viruses, that is , we forget that we must use only tested, good water, yes, many people complain, when you go to some country, it is imperative that there is ice water there, yes, you seem to take water from a bottle there, yes, it’s from this very bottle, and you scoop ice it’s not clear what they’re made of, right? there are a lot of cases when a person becomes infected with an intestinal infection, precisely from untested water, who make this ice there, or the same products, people travel by train, stop at stations, they sell some kind of pies there, some other things, always very tasty, yes, but not always tested, and since in the summer and viruses and bacteria they
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multiply much faster and the amount of this pathogen. that a person consumes, it is much more, yes, than in winter, and it is already enough for so that the infection spreads very quickly and the results are severe, that is, seasonality, that is , the flu is in some sense an exception, it turns out that seasonality is not because bacteria or viruses come to us or leave us, but simply our behavior changes with the seasons and the temperature changes, which means, for example, the rate of spread of infection or the survival rate of the virus, all this is a physical and chemical process, in general. the number of people immune to this variant is already quite significant, another thing is that, unfortunately, immunity is only to this option, which was, yes, to another, only partial, yes, that’s one thing, and
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secondly, well, it won’t last. and why not for a long time, because it would seem that immunity, immunological memory, you say that doctors should know immunology, but it seems like the textbooks say that this is preserved, but this is from the same smallpox for life, no, that’s right, from smallpox for life, because the variola virus, yes, it forms these memory cells that do not live in the lymph nodes, but that live in bone marrow, their life expectancy , yes, well, no one thinks there are 20 years, 30 years, 40.
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such a cute animal, how can you think that you can get undercooked meat from it, well, this is somehow not good at all, it was a podcast baden baden, i am your host konstantin severinov, today we spoke with academician: russian academy of sciences vitaly vasilyevich zverev about seasonal infections, viruses about the world health organization. this is the popular science podcast schrödinger's cat, and i am its host, grigory tarasevich. editor-in-chief of the magazine of the same name , schrödinger's cat. hello, today we will talk about a rather difficult, at least for me, emotional topic about
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bullying and especially about children’s bullying that happens in schools. and today we have guests, singer victoria daineka, psychologist, chief expert of the no bullying program, maria afonina. hello, hello, hello, let's start right away with the personal, with the emotional, i hope we can handle it, let's each of us tell our story of school bullying, that's who is ready first, victoria, you're brave, let's try, okay, let's try, my story school bullying began with my first performances at our school, in our pop studio, here i basically learned something... such a modern word hait, in our school there were these large benches with wooden coverings in the corridors, where there was it was possible to compile a dictionary of swear words
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regarding the last name of vicki daineka, all the benches there were simply written off in my honor, one day i went to the toilet, there were no partitions in our toilet, there was just a large wall of tiles, where my name and surname were written in lipstick and... the whole wall was covered with some creepy things, words, all this, not to mention the desks and so on, and if this was such a written form of hatred towards me, then there were also personal speeches from some girls from our schools, they threatened to kill me, they threatened a lot of things, well, in general they told me a lot of terrible things, challenged me to some... shooters, i don’t know what to call it correctly, i remember that i felt terrible fear , i was incredibly scared, i remember how i cried on my mother’s lap, saying that i would not go to this school, they would kill me there, in general it was creepy, i don’t remember
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my mother’s reaction at that moment, but i remember that quite quickly i moved to another school, the lyceum school, where there was a very small chamber atmosphere, by the way, after the incident in in the toilet, where everything was written down, i told the teachers, i said, what is this all about , i was scared because i was terribly scared, and i also don’t remember how it all ended, but i remember that i myself i came to a meeting with these people, and i remember these conversations, how my knees were shaking there, how i tried, i don’t know, to somehow turn these people into haters, not just my friends, but somehow... it took some time to calm them down, but thank god, it never came to a fight. i have never been physically they offended me, although i, of course, experienced colossal fear, and most importantly, stress, only after moving to another school, where there was a completely different atmosphere, very... very few students had
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more control over everything that was happening, only there i was able to go to school calmly, i was happy to wake up and run there, to that school, which was actually located under the windows of my house - and not somewhere on the outskirts of the city, i honestly remember some kind of small nightmare, which, thank god , is over. thank you very much for your frankness, maria, do you have a story of bullying, i have different stories, because i have played different roles in this phenomenon, well, usually in bullying there are not only victims, there are instigators, those who start the bullying, there are, well, the so -called instigators , those who join in this bullying are witnesses, that is, these are the people who, perhaps, they themselves do not write any unpleasant inscriptions and do not call, but nevertheless they, with their tacit approval or that that they don't interfere, they... are very
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makes a big contribution to all this, my first experience was when i encountered tavlya, i was just in the role of a witness, suddenly in our class at some point i came, they began to bully a girl, and well, they called her names like - then they teased her by her last name, and no one wanted to sit with her, when she entered the class, everyone ran away in different directions and somehow laughed, then in the end, apparently someone hit her, because i remember that she had blood began to flow from my nose, this is a very interesting experience, for example, here... mine, when i studied at fifth grade, that is, it seemed to me, of course, i felt very sorry for this girl, and well, i was in shock, it was not clear what to do about it, but at the same time there was an inner feeling that this was how it should be, but that means this she is doing something wrong, since she is being bullied like this and even had her nose broken, and this is what very often it is the witnesses who feel at the moment of bullying, that something seems to be wrong, but since i am doing it, it means so it’s possible and that means it ’s necessary and that means it’s her own fault, then i have... the next, well, probably story
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there was a collision with a trawler when i visited, well, one might say, in the retinue of the instigator, at some point we changed our russian language teachers and gave us a young guy who had apparently just recently graduated from university, for some reason we decided that we needed to bring back the old teacher, and nothing better, someone couldn’t figure out how to start poisoning this young teacher, and well, it was also a very unpleasant situation, that is, we were over him with... some adult, that is, the same one , it’s a pity that at that moment there was no well the school director, maybe, if he came and somehow said: “listen, well, what you are doing will definitely not help bring back your previous teacher, but you are causing enormous trauma and generally harm to this young teacher, who, well, in principle didn’t do anything to you.
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well, nothing like that is happening, why should you treat him like that? i think it could somehow have an effect on stopping this whole process, and this is not interference, it’s actually, well, generally terrible, and i always thought that i was never in the role aggressor, but then i remembered that i also organized persecution against someone close enough to me, and i remember that i involved a sufficiently large number of our mutual friends so that we would run away. they weren’t friends there, they threw some notes, well, at that moment i wanted to, well, somehow punish this person, and of course, now, when i remember this experience, i did n’t remember it right away, only thanks to the fact that i i started working in this program, i realized that i really was an aggressor, this, this is probably what many aggressors feel, that is, over the years this experience is forgotten, it seems to them that what happened was normal, but of course it’s not normal, and well, it’s a pity that they didn’t come across that adult who could i would also like to somehow draw attention to this
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situation and say that what you are doing is wrong and this is not necessary, and i already became a victim of bullying at the very last moment, probably when i was maybe 14 years old , everything was generally great at school, but i went to the camp and, well, ended up in a camp with guys who were also quite different from me, that is, i was from a good moscow school and ended up in a camp where there were a lot of... guys, well, not very many of them, probably from some prosperous families, and of course, there, i became a victim of bullying, literally in the first days. i remember that i called my parents and said that it ’s bad here, take me away from here, my parents told me that everything is fine, you ’ll figure it out, you just need to get used to it, it’s clear that they didn’t know about it, what's there this bullying happens, but this is the experience when you try to ask for help, and they tell you, everything is fine, figure it out.
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this is of course very difficult, this not even very long persecution, which lasted for 3 weeks, of course, well, i think that it left its mark on... my further history, that is, i was for some time i’m scared to communicate with people, it seemed to me that something was wrong with me and that everyone was somehow looking at me wrong, well, this is one of those manifestations social anxiety, then of course it all went away, but nevertheless, even such short-term bullying, it is very dangerous, well, after maria’s words, i myself wondered if i was once an aggressor or a silent witness, i’m going over it in my memory, probably something... there was something like this, maybe even now it’s happening somewhere, and i advise everyone who listens to us to think, maybe you and i at some point became aggressors and just didn’t notice it, believed that this was how it should be, but there were definitely victims of bullying, i remember this from school, this
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it was very unpleasant, i still wear such a mark on my right hand, fortunately it is no longer noticeable, either in the sixth or seventh grade, classmates put out the hand during a chemistry lesson. a butch, that is, they twisted their hand, put it on the table, lit a cigarette and, therefore, extinguished it, and even the teacher, in my opinion , was in the class, but did not know what to do, i keep this little scar as some kind of memory of a not very happy childhood, well , there may be some kind of life lesson, but from the height of our years, our experience, our mind, so that you and i, well, each of us , would advise our then selves on what to do in this situation, so victoria, what would you not advise yourself... then? first of all, i would advise myself to talk more about what is happening as adults, because when you are a child, well, you yourself cannot somehow resolve this situation correctly, and now, having already had my own child, i seem to see her
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situation, where they can also poison her in a children's camp, or something else, i immediately immediately intervene in the situation, because i don’t want this to somehow develop later. quite combative and can somehow take care of myself on my child, because she is a little more sensitive than me, if i stand like that, then, for example, my child cannot, she will cry, refuse to attend some classes there every day , just so as not to have to deal with this, and of course i immediately intervene, because i believe that no one can stand up for children, except, well, their parents. maria, what advice would you give to yourself? at that moment when i was a victim of bullying in the camp, i probably felt the same way victoria, i would advise myself to more persistently draw the attention of adults to what is happening, this is wrong, i think that , from the height of my experience , i would advise myself to directly tell specific situations, this is what happened , this, and this this, and this happened, this
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happens every day, for example, when i called my parents, it’s probably, well, it’s clear that for various reasons they could somehow, well , not help me, so, but i think that i would also advise . yourself to look at the other children, because exactly the whole camp - it was not the same detachment that i was in, and i could try to find support somewhere on the side, and this is also important, yes, because a child, for example, if he is at school, he is being bullied there, then it is very important for him to see that school is not the whole world, and that there is, for example, some section or the same camp or something else, where he is not bullied and where there will be people who... are on his side, who will be for him, in order to avoid any negative consequences of bullying, i probably should also answer the question, and to be honest, i don’t have a complete answer, well , i implemented one method that you mentioned, that is, in addition to the seventh grade school, thanks to my mother, i had
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a geological school, where everything was completely different, and a school at moscow state university, where no bullying, where rather on the contrary, i was almost a star, well, not a star, but respected... first calm down, because if a child comes to you and says that he is being bullied, then of course there are a lot of emotions, that’s important, well, how to help calm yourself down, different ways help everyone, that is, you can call a friend go for a walk, listen to some kind of meditation, i don’t know, in the end
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go to a psychologist, then you calm down, yes, the next thing is that many parents also seem to skip a stage, because they run straight to school to do something, it is very important to support the child. and here, when talking with a child, it is important to emphasize that this is terrible, this should not happen, that the problem is not with you, and this is not because there is something wrong with you, but because the class suddenly decided this. .. behave this way, that is, you can be tall or short, whether you can sing beautifully or not be able to sing, whether you are smart or less capable, this still does not give anyone the right to bully you, this position is very important to convey to the child, because bullying very quickly begins to have a destructive effect on his self-esteem. the next thing that is important is to tell the child that i am with you, and i will do everything that depends on me to ensure that you are safe at school, these words, they help the child feel much more confident, yes. and then you can go to school and try something there do, or also, for example, change
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schools, if at the school, in the one where the child is studying, it becomes, well, completely unsafe, when cigarettes are put out by hand or the arrows are hammered, well, that is, apparently the situation there has really already gone too far , well, if you haven’t come in yet, then what should i do, what should i do? a parent came to school, says he’s bullying my child, what else should he say, yes, he should say that my child is being bullied, of course, if we... stop do this if we talk only to the child victim, behave differently, if we put the aggressors and the victim together, try to come to an agreement, that’s all, well , it doesn’t work, that’s the teacher’s concern, but what should the parent do, so he came to school, signaled everything, yes came to school, signaled, said: what is happening here, well there, i don’t know, on such and such a date this happened, this happened here,
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this happened here, every time my child suffers, the same children participate in this, this is bullying , so please take action and agree with the teacher when these measures will be taken, what exactly, for example, find out in a week what has changed, what is being done, if nothing is being done, then go to the school director, you can make a written statement, in which it is also important to list all the specific facts , that is, everything, everything, everything at this level also doesn’t work out, no one can ask the director to take measures to protect the child, if she doesn’t work in this class, no one stops the bullying, then well then change the school, because that the child’s further stay there it’s not very safe, move away, don’t bother me, she ’s alive, there’s no way for you, seriously, i want someone prettier. “i don’t want to tell olya about this directly, because she will think that i want to quarrel with her, my husband. alexey, first of all,
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thank you for coming to me with this information, and not to olga. olga, i, i love you. lovilas, you ended up with us, i see, and the girl from work is staying with you for the night, and olechka is coming to spend the night. i’m chasing the suspects, they turned onto kolominskaya, i need help, everyone who’s nearby. that the raid will be on the bank, in relation to the turbine." a thorough investigation will be carried out, if you find something related to the turbine, consider it a death sentence, you think he’s a rat, i’m from the police, i know, i didn’t find out, the taxi is undercover, premiere, tomorrow after the program, you are watching schröttinger’s cat podcast, i am its leading editor-in-chief of the popular science magazine, we are discussing today: the topic of bullying, i will even emphasize the word bullying, so as not to use the more neutral word bullying,
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it seems to me . , downplays the importance of this a terrible, unfortunately, widespread problem. and we discuss bullying with our guests, psychologist maria afonina and singer victoria daneko. victoria, you said that if you were giving advice based on your experience, you would advise turning to parents more, but why? they expected, i expected , protection, so i, for example, wanted that, for example, i wasn’t the only one standing in front of this girl who was actively bullying me there at school, i wasn’t alone, i don’t know, together with my mother, because i i just wanted to feel that my mother was standing right behind me with her back that she herself was ready there, i don’t know, to call that person and tell him what was going on, but once, by the way, my mother, i was very much to her...
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that they are nearby and that i can always rely on them, because then it was my mother who was able to resolve that situation, and for me it was not so much the grade in my certificate that was important, but rather her support, and i also want to be the kind of mother who will also stand up for the child in the same way, and i actually i behaved exactly the same way,
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probably in some situation when, as it were, when you see the tears of a child and unfair relationships, then you don’t say that, like, ah, everything will get better tomorrow... you say, okay, i’ll solve this directly, and this, by the way, is solved, in fact, when you turn to teachers and say , that there is a problem, then one way or another today, probably, it is more widely known and more like, if possible, in my time, when i was studying, it somehow, well, they didn’t pay much attention to it and these are the consequences on a person , then now the teachers really say: okay, we ’ll figure out the situation and then the problem, to me it seems to resolve itself, yes. yes, this is actually true, there’s just another problem here, that, unfortunately, not all teachers know how to work with bullying, but there is already a huge movement forward that they recognize that, well, many teachers admit that there really is such a problem, they are ready to do something about it. in general, how important and complex is this problem in russian schools now, or is it all from the dark
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past, but it is important, complex, there really is a lot of it, there are different studies, but... i hope that it will gradually happen, because, well, we have now created such a large anti-bullying program for schools, it has different blocks, like preventive ones, that is, there is a block for teachers, a block for parents, different class hours for children , we have such a large document called the anti-bullying charter, it describes what every participant
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in the educational process needs to do when bullying happens at school, including there is a piece in this... about what needs to be done if bullying happens in the classroom now the persecution has already happened, and of course, these are the kinds of stories when bullying already turns into a physical form, yes, when bulls are extinguished or pecked or things are spoiled, this is already when bullying has existed for some time, usually it begins with a verbal form, when they call names, well what they come up with offensive nicknames, either as a social form, when they are ignored, excluded from the group, not accepted into projects, they are kicked out of school chats now. and so on, it’s important to react at this stage, when they are not yet beating in school locker rooms and are not being extinguished by hand bulls, well, sometimes it happens spontaneously, victoria, as i understand it, before you spoke, you didn’t have such problems, no, although no, in fact, i just remembered a situation when twice in my class there was a situation, when all the girls in the class
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boycotted me and stopped talking to me, because you see? we should have said that there is a problem, and we are starting to work with it, what should the teacher do specifically, he gathers the class and prepares for a certain number of regular class-wide meetings, yes the first meeting is devoted to what the teacher says: we have quite big problems with communication in our class. you can, for example, say that there was a boycott in our class, you can say that bullying is starting in our class, that is , it depends on how specifically this teacher feels calmer, and offer, for example, to watch some then any short video is thematic according to the age of the children who participate in it, where the situation of bullying is shown, and it is better that this video is not very long, it’s about five minutes,
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so that no one gets tired, and it is important that all these positions are presented, then we watched the video and... we begin to update all students, it is very important that we work with the whole class, because it is important for us that there are witnesses, those children who simply join in, we ask everyone, what feelings did this character evoke, what feelings did this character evoke, have you ever encountered something like this in your life, that’s why you think children, for example, well, how -they don’t support the boy, and we also share and with my stories, that is, if i were a teacher, i would say that i also encountered bullying when i was at school, i... felt like this, children usually respond very much to this when they watch and they also see that adults also talk, they share a huge number of different stories, about bullying, about some kind of problems.
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problem, the next moment, when we discussed this situation, which is in class, we play a game, help them make a moral choice, it is very simple, but we offer give yourself one, two or three points, depending on who makes what contribution to this boycott that exists in the class, one point is given to those students who never participate in the boycott at all, two points to those who do , well , some more often, some less often, but would like to stop it, three points for those who say that i... will always participate in the boycott, and you won’t convince me at all, practice shows that it’s usually a big some give themselves two points, there are those who give themselves three
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points and say that we will always be boycott, but this is also important information for us, we shouldn’t be afraid of this, because well, that is, we then understand who’s mood, and, well, maybe it’s worth working with these children separately, but when we see that most of the class, they all vote together, says that we are organizing a boycott, but would like to change something,
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because a sufficient number of various traumas occur during the course of life, including trauma from bullying, but i must say that, mm, probably until 2014, this is the year when psychotherapy came into my life, it was quite difficult for me, in principle, firstly, i have a public profession, but so it turned out that i was uncomfortable being in society, well, really, downright uncomfortable. it’s convenient for me to be on stage, because here no one looks at me from the sides, does not judge me, these people came to look at me, one way or another, i came and i left, i have no
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contact with them, but as soon as i found... in space, in my work there are a lot of social events, filming, something else, interviews, when you need to communicate with people, for a very long time this was difficult for me, until now my favorite entertainment in my free time is this. sit at home, don’t go out anywhere and don’t communicate with anyone, i don’t know how much, how much this adds up, i don’t know, the consequences of bullying or something else, but i honestly try to avoid society one way or another when i can. i even had such situations when i arrived, for example, a social event, alone: i’m ready, i’m made up, i look beautiful, i like myself, that is, i’m already kind of a little bit confident, but i’m sitting in the car and i’m practically crying because i can’t get out of it, i can’t, i don’t i can force myself to go into the company of people now, and i don’t know whether i will meet someone i know or whether there will be a stranger there, but i will feel uncomfortable, i don’t know if this is related to
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the consequences of what happened there? podcast kude schöldinger, watch on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. maria, how common is bullying already in adulthood, at work, for example, in adulthood it is also common, and i, for example, know, these are the numbers that somewhere around 80% of people who have encountered bullying already in adulthood at work place, they talked about how this was one of the most traumatic experiences in their lives, and this
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was also compared. with such serious shocks as, for example, the illness or death of someone close, long-term bullying in the workplace, it was put on a par with such, well, quite severe life shocks, but what should an adult do, complain, this is it’s very difficult, because bullying in the workplace , if bullying in school groups began to be actively studied somewhere in the eighties of the 20th century, then bullying in in adult groups they began to study right here...
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... write some nasty stuff, well, even if, roughly speaking, i don’t like someone, i don’t like someone, i don’t have time to look for this person, page, write something, but at first, of course, i could cry, be sincerely upset, and i was, of course, very upset, but now, over time, i have learned to cope with it one way or another, i would like to return to that why are we...
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are we trying to behave this way, just tell him directly, if only an adult would come up to this person today and hug her, say, everything will be fine, you don’t need to be embittered at the whole world in order to -to realize myself in this life and feel better, i would just like this i hugged the person, honestly, it seems to me that then the anger would have decreased, well, by the way, this is a cool, very, very good move, this is generally excellent, maria. here you are, here, here, representing this person here, i don’t know, a group of people, what would you say to them? well, i could say that you were wrong, but i could just not say anything, because this is the experience that happened, i survived it, and i move on,
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in principle it’s no longer very important what happened there , well, if i now met those people who poisoned me at school, i i even remember approximately faces, names, surnames, i would probably admit that from this trauma, from the bullying of the children, i learned a lot of useful things, not in the sense that you need to be strong, rather on the contrary, remembering a bad school, a bad childhood , i want to take revenge, and this is a good incentive, that’s why i work a lot at school, i work a lot with children so that they don’t live like that, in a sense, i can even feel gratitude towards these people, but still... well, at least i reworked everything or not everything, but at least i live with it not bad, i haven’t forgiven you, i guess i’d like to end our podcast on this emotional note, it was the schlödinger’s cat podcast, and
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i’m its host, grigory tarasevich, editor-in-chief of the schlödinger’s cat magazine. i didn’t see your smile, you probably hide it from strangers, you don’t make mistakes and don’t utter unnecessary phrases. sinking deeper and deeper each time, we take off our masks in order to become even plainer, just how much life was
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needed to feel here now, that you need it, you never know, again, you’re so strange, you never know, you know, i'm tired of being lied to. they give, it’s cool, it’s crazy, but i’ll give you another try, you never know why you’re so strange, i love you, maybe it’s really cool, i’m afraid to give you another chance, my heart told me today, because it doesn’t matter at all, what they will think of us, even if it is strange. i thank you for what is now, what is now, everyone is looking for their own answers, but i feel that somewhere very deep inside,
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there are no secrets, whatever you want, just look, look, how should it be? you never know again you're so strange, you never know, i 'm tired of the toban, i'm confused, this cool is going crazy, but i'm giving you another try, you never know, you're so strange, love, i'm serving, maybe it's true, it's cool, i i'm afraid to give you another chance,
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but i'm giving you another try, love, i'm serving, it's cool, i'm afraid to give you another chance, friends, hello, this podcast is not a format of a place where every artist can reveal himself in a completely new way, and how always wonderful in this studio of mine... the presenters are karina cross, vale carnival, the gip group, and this is roman,
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nikita, arkady and alexey, of course, me, anton lavrentyev, and today, as i know, we, yes, we are not alone here, our guest is an artist who amazed everyone not only with her vocals, i don’t see, but also simply with stunning beauty, for a minute, this is the mother of two children, nyusha is our guest today, hello, as always, we have more than one guest, despite his young years, this young man managed to win the hearts of millions of girls and even women of completely different ages, so meet akman, how sweetly you speak, how do you think that you what unites, in addition to unearthly beauty, is, of course, music, in fact , this whole event of yours is cool, it can really bring people together, because to be honest, we... we met with nyusha, i saw it, i can help you, of course, or to you, i always
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ask, yes, i saw nyusha at several events, but i’m a shy person, i’m afraid to come here, but now, now we will sing, we will get to know each other, so your event, this musical one, really brings us together, of course we are globally united by music, but i know that akmal today i even prepared a remake of nyusha’s song, i played trump card, right? of course, well, because i can’t wait, i want to hear, me too, run away, take me, i want to go where you breathe, it’s wet winter, and through the rain you can’t hear me, i’m in the soup, i was swimming in the tank ,
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please tell me how it happened that such a hit was born? i was inspired for this song by a life situation, at that moment i observed a loved one who was going through a very difficult situation in a relationship, that is , i always saw this person so cheerful, carefree, positive, here i learn, as it were, the other side of the coin in relationships. it so happened that since childhood, my parents raised me on chanson, it so happened that i went to school to play dvaing, then somehow everything gradually outgrew and i began to recognize the work of lyuba uspenskaya, and the boys and i were sitting in karooke, and i was singing a song. and one of our guys says to me:
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listen, it would be cool if you did some kind of remake of this song, left the well-known chorus, but at the same time wrote new verses, and that’s how this idea was born. akhmal, what, what did love itself tell you? this is also a very interesting story, i was sitting in a cafe, in short, and the number called, i picked up the phone and heard this velvety voice, this velvety voice, this one, alek boy, that was incredibly familiar to me. she's amazing, i just listened to the song it was simply amazing, i melted right in this cafe, my girlfriend was sitting with me, my girlfriend was sitting with me.
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she’s always like this, she’s always like this with open arms to a person, so she’s generally a very good-natured person, well, in short, she says that we need to meet with you, maybe we ’ll come up with something else together, that’s it somehow she’s at concerts, i’m working there somewhere, so our schedules haven’t aligned, let’s sing a song in pole style, come on, don’t look at me, i’m my own enemy, i traded you, let's start with the verse, yes, there is no one around, i'm going alone, i was a fool, i'm sick of you, but no luck, again a trap, the heart in my head is completely filled with you, i'm drunk, i'm drunk with you, i won't find peace anymore ,
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here right now we will carefully enter into the chorus. i understand everything correctly, yes, everything is correct, you can sing like love in return, and i’ll come to you across the field and along the pole, i’ll come to you across the field and across the pole from a thousand miles away, i took it to you for a thousand, i’m with a broken wing, but i’ll fly to you, i’m with with a broken wing, but i will fly to you a thousand stars away.
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jane's script is real literature. we can't leave the piano. off to the festival. thousands of journalists arrived. this isn't a movie anymore, please be careful jack. damn, it hurts. i feel like i'm made from one piece of cinema, from head to toe. thank you for being here. matodore on friday. at the first, this is a festival where there are films for everyone, this is cannes, nush, you initially worked with your dad, your dad was a producer, what’s that like, when your dad sells you, it seems to me that it was very cool, because in fact
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there was no such concept initially, that is , like my dad, he wanted to find excellent conditions for me, that is, we communicated with different people. labels, producers, there was such a long search path, well, in the end he realized that he couldn’t decide to trust me with anyone, i was basically born into a musical family and of course my dad, he is also a composer, and with him kind of skills, with his experience, it was probably even strange for me somewhere to convey to someone, that is, he simply had some kind of internal uncertainty, but in the end he acted more even as my music producer, i heard it’s true. mortgaged the apartment so that this is really true? yes, we simply didn’t have the opportunity, that is, how would we calculate how much money it would take to record, to record material there, to shoot videos, at that time he was at a crossroads, that is, he could start opening his own business there, doing with this he could, as it were, essentially invest in me, and
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he made a choice to support me , my daughter was a business, well, yes, in fact , it was a family business, indeed, his wife also participated, she was. producer, well, of course, there were, there was everything, there were certain disagreements, but in general we still interacted very well, i think that this was the best option of all those labels and production centers and producers who could work with me, wait , is dad now involved in his musical life or not anymore, no, not now, i can always go to him i should and do periodically ask for advice, for some kind of support, but i actually had a very important stage... when i met my husband, i just learned to build a relationship with my dad all over again, there were actually several very difficult conversations between us , where it was absolutely necessary to tell the
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truth, and i cried, and dad was angry, well , that is, we had just such a showdown, but it was exactly about it, well, anyway , every person has his own expectations, dad had his own expectations , he thought that probably in general, we will work together all our lives, and it’s like, to some extent, well, to some extent, he seemed to be completely on... a great creative path has been made, there ’s also this internal state, then
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what really, that is, as if i had, i probably, like a woman, had a request to start a family, children, that is, to some extent, of course, rest, because i ’m just tired of this tough schedule, of certain conditions , well , it just happened that we were slowly, that is, we were still working together, for some other time was spent on restructuring, as it were, and then i just, well, then i got pregnant and it was necessary to take a 100% break, well, as it were, although i worked until the fifth month of pregnancy, let’s do it all at once, so i’ll put holes in the points, i also read that your husband tried to produce you, is this true or definitely not true, indeed, when we just, well, one might say, moved in together, we just moved in together and well, he just began to participate more actively in my life, because well, it’s like we were close and there were attempts such, that is, but he... it’s not even that he’s creeping, he’s just at least all the same, that is, he began to participate more in my life, is privy to some issues, then we
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also organized it, or he’s not connected at all, no, he is not connected at all, but he was connected with the organization of events and concerts, in his city, and how it happened that, of course, he seemed to become active, perhaps, i think, of course, he had some kind of hope, but i stopped this process very quickly, i'm so cute. don’t even think about it if you don’t want scandals, but i just understood where this was leading, that is , as if we would be here and there and only got rid of dad there, that is, this is never personal growth at all, and i like this, this is some kind of change, a substitution of the concept, well, i realized that of course this is not the same at all, and it’s just even purely, well, as i understand it, that we will begin to get tired of each other morally, and this will simply lead to collapse . akmal, tell me, do your parents take part in yours?
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dad played football all his life, grandpa mine too, in short, i don’t know where music really lives in me, but in terms of the legal side , my dad understands these contracts, i’m a complete kettle in this, and i always send all the contracts to my father, but recently i hired a lawyer for the first time , which will always be with me now, and so as not to be deceived, many artists, my friends advised me to do this, i did it, 13 years later you re-released it.
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the sun raised its eyelids, yes i will continue to choose my miracle, this is a little country, yes i will continue to choose my miracle, yes i will continue to choose my miracle, it’s cool. nyuzh, usually everyone makes feats now, yes, and you had a very interesting experience, reviving a song and creating a feat, as if with an ex, it so happened that on one of the social networks i asked my fans a question with whom they are most looking forward to a duet , and at that moment my feed just collapsed there, well, as if there was one single name that practically, well, 99% there, it all turns out that in the evening -
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egor sent me a screenshot, we all understood who egor was, but let’s for the viewer, yes egor crete egor crete, in general yes, that is, how would i write, like, why no, if you want to look deeper into this story, in fact, of course, yegor and i had some kind of internal invisible conflict for several years, somewhere it was even externally, but since over these few years i was really very i dug a lot into what we went through, i know that you... must separate on good terms, and so how we didn’t come to some kind of harmony in this matter, that is, it was as if it was natural to understand that it would be great, well , to discuss, work out some things, and i began to directly work on myself, and raise it, and you suggested doing a fit , well, it kind of happened that he sent a screenshot, and i kind of thought
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that this was already a proposal and kind of... and kind of agreed, like i wrote, why not, that’s it, then we already texted and agreed to meet, we we're talking about the song mr. and mrs., it turned out very cool, actually i i think we were both super fired up by the story that no one had ever done this before, that this was a unique topic, even when we realized that we could make this video, where we were like, ala, we went into one of the probability of like, you met , then it was as if you became exes, then one time you weren’t on the same set. well, it was, it was strange, yes, it was strange not yet on set, it was strange even in the studio, when we actually saw each other there, how many times we didn’t see each other, well, yes, in fact, we didn’t see each other there for several years, here we we saw each other, at some point i even directly asked everyone to leave, we were left alone, i said, so come on, in short, what are you, what kind of grievances do you have against me, like, what are you, what do you think, let’s express it that’s all for me, in short, now we have 10 minutes there,
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come on, so he began to tell me, in short, how he, how he sees, what i’m wrong about, in short, what happened, because before that i was different there are excerpts, interviews, and so on, and i understand that he had his own processes there, i sort of had my own and i i wanted to clarify and so that there were no hard feelings, understatements, etc. between us , and that your husband was not jealous of this moment in your life, of course, at first yes, but then we also had several very deep conversations on this topic, and when i explained the main message of your desires regarding musical experiments, i hear that you respect jazz, i respect you, we invite you to perform the song, do not interrupt,
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an illegal right is possible. you are not an unraveled thread around the warmth, you are carried by a stream of wind along broken, barely breathing glass from other people's windows, and i repeated this to you more than once, i endured, i looked for silence. into the sky louder than she told me then, and i stayed to listen to the story on his, don’t interrupt me, musician, don’t offend me, you’re too close, don’t interrupt me, my law now.
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a hoop, she’s wrong, it wasn’t me, she’s a word in the sky, someone will say, yes, yes, it was fate, it’s my dream in the sky, it’s not my dream, he was it. for a long time, you don’t circle over him, it’s better to tell me why with me, out of sadness this is a lot, you should have finished, i look like a wolf, two weeks like the moon, if you wait a little and don’t lose what you find, because i seem to be clever,
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forgot, listen, cool, music competitions definitely unite you, right? i always understood that where am i supposed to go, i’m a boy, i was from st. petersburg then, i played football every day, and for me to get on television, on the main scanner of the side, it’s generally, well, what is it, brother somehow he took the computer, submitted an application, then applications
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were accepted on the website, yeah, he told me about it he said, i took it all as a joke, a month later i came back from the football field, he said, they answered us from the first channel, we went to moscow for a casting, and we started learning songs, i went to the teacher, and so it began... this here is my first step, musical machine, cool, akmal, right now you stand here next to this button, so your back to us, your back to us, facing the people, facing the people, and don’t peep, your task will be to press the button in that moment when nyusha will sing, but it won’t be so easy for you, because our voices will be changed, oh yes, and that we showed up, you feel the light between us, we are at coffee, we hesitated, happiness is like
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a tsunami, don’t say that we are late, you feel the light between us, i’ll pity it, i can turn around, so who was it, okay, you guessed it, but let’s see, well, this is just some kind of peligan work, the point is that i don’t want to change this at all, not what you want to change , i don’t like my hump, i don’t like it because it starts very high, so the second one
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i don’t have a photo of the hump, but it’s shorter, and you can imagine what they’ll do to your nose, that’s why, and it’s also a resonator, that is, that’s what i’m most afraid of, i’ve already put aside money, i’ve already found a doctor, that's all. i just need to go and do it, but i'm afraid. akmal, you and your mentor vasily, that’s it, right, right, everything is right. and you have the same song titles, right, you have a slow one, he has a slow one, he has a slow one, we combined a little here, but tell me, you were inspired by this song, and so it happened, it happened, how in general, oh, to tell you honestly, of course, yes, yes, that, i ’m watching something, something these artists earn so well on these graduations, at least someone, i’m sitting in the studio, i'm sitting in the studio and opening notes on my phone and seeing what i have.
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but he played the guitar and sang it, and it’s yours belatitsa, and you are now 17 years old, i just wanted to please you, and i took the guitar, played and sang along the roads, i am walking desperately, our dialogue was accidental, for our love i will not rub myself, i will never return to you for anything along to... i walk desperately, our
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dialogue was accidental , i won’t rub myself for our love, i’ll never come back to you for anything, you know, that’s how it happens there, that’s how it is, anton, i think on this a beautiful note needs to be a hit, i don’t mind, since you are artists who broadcast love through themselves, i suggest that this the song was also about love, yes, well... the line, you know what it was in my head, maybe for the first time in my life, love is you and me, love is you and me, yes, you and me, love is yours , maybe your eyes, your words, love is your eyes, love is me and you, where there is light, there is no place, well, like darkness, for darkness, for darkness, for emptiness, for emptiness, for emptiness, love is you and me, love - just look into my eyes, so, love, you and me, just look into my eyes, love is me and you, where there is light. let all your dreams come true
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tell us to the whole world how i brought you flower bouquets, how i waited until the morning, waiting for you at the entrance, how i shed tears on the ground. how i screamed at you, i won’t come and broke my hands, i’ll get tired because of you, you tell him about us. flowers, how i brought you flowers, i bouquets, how i waited until the morning, at the entrance expecting from you, how i shed tears on the ground, how i shouted to you, i won’t come and broke my hands, i
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i’ll get tired because of you, there’s no light in my eyes, what are you talking about, you say that you’ve changed, maybe... you’ve just grown up, your words and notations only bring you to tears, stop dividing my bed into yours, tear it apart, come on, come on and free, you are from my soul, you are like me, you are a very strong hell, once again, i look into your eyes and my body seems to be crucified, one two, three, oh, i finished what we started, in my affairs, you no longer see love, no matter how much you try to change me, i will repeat to you, you tell the whole world to know, i told you flower, i bouquets, how i waited until the morning, at the jew’s entrance i shed you, how i shed tears on
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hello everyone, this is a free program podcast, i’m maxim tronkov, our guests are lyosha, masha, our joy, maria petrova and alexey tikhonov, hello! guys, hello, hello, maxim, our joy is we were before, probably, but the joy has not disappeared from us anywhere, okay, well, just recently this spring the russian challenge tournament ended, where after all, you again brought joy to your beloved spectators in st. petersburg, it seems to me that you felt as before at the competition. in the evenings, the hedgehog and the bear cub would gather either at the hedgehog or at the bear cub’s, counting the waters. it’s so good that we have each other, uh-huh, yuzhi, and you’ll hear him scream, little bear.
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i will definitely, you hear, i will definitely come to you, no matter what happens, i will always be by your side, why are you silent, i believe, hedgehog, little bear, no, it was very cool, very interesting, very exciting, for... was it exciting for you? well , of course it’s exciting, because we haven’t been on competitive ice for many years, and this is just so unexpected, exciting and interesting, it was interesting to be in this environment with young guys and feel it all from the inside.
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it was scary, it was exciting, but then the first musical notes sounded and that was it, and we went into this story, and it seemed to me that we did it very... poorly - thanks mainly to an idea that was brilliant in my opinion, because, in general, thanks to this idea, we participated in this project, so maxim, thank you very much for throwing up such an idea, and this is exactly what we could do precisely in terms of physicality, in terms of acting, and it seems to me that we all managed to do this together, well, in fact , it’s also not exactly 100% my idea, it’s somehow our collective mind , figure skating fans. because the way alexey botalov begins this tale is
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the greatest actor, soviet, russian, fantastic, and we initially thought maybe and we somehow got wound up, started looking for moments, maybe, here’s his voice, even if it wasn’t there for the entire text, there wasn’t his voice, he was just starting this story in the cartoon. then there were other voices, we wish we had to, but because maxim tronkov suggested that we take words from another fairy tale by the same author, incredible words, very startling words, real words, words that those guys are inside, that’s all of them, so many people who saw this number came up to us and said that listen, guys, well, this is it, if you’re not there, then i’m not there either, so so, this, this is very cool, so we
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had to voice it ourselves, but at first it was also scary how it would turn out, i’ve already heard alexey’s voice all the time and i know that he will definitely succeed, but thank you, and what about mine on the other hand, it would be possible to voice the hedgehog, in principle, i didn’t understand, i didn’t doubt maria petrova’s voice, because it seemed to me that it was a hit, that it was very suitable, though there was one professional who said: no, don’t lisp, don’t lisp, don't babysit, because yes, because you start when you go to cartoons, you’re trying to be a little bit like cartoon characters, but we wanted, we wanted from the country, maxim, we wanted it to be natural, human, so that, besides the fact that it’s the hedgehog bear, it was masha and lyoshka , well, when it’s simple. this idea came up, why i immediately said, petrov and tikhonov should do this, because it is impossible
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to imagine you without each other, that is, if you love figure skating and say petrova, then you mean tikhonov, if you say tikhonov, then you mean petrova . tell us how you met in general, how it happened, i know that this is a very interesting story, 2024 is in the yard today, back in 1994 the world cup was held in japan and it came there in almost another century, in another century, thank you, and there we first met, i skated for japan with a japanese partner, who was a little even shorter than maria petrova, she was 48 meters, yuka kawasaki, her name, and she and i skated for japan, took an honorable fifteenth place , maria petrova and anton sikharulidza, this was their first debut world championship -
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the ice, still only on the ice, and there was some kind of fire, because masha was very malleable in terms of creativity, in terms of searching for some interesting things, features that were, were not located somewhere, but basically there are some. what he does now in figure skating is always very joyful and great, but i want to see if someone is trying to do them or say that i liked it when we watched before the start, in each other’s eyes, before leaving, you know this feeling, but it seems to me that many people do this in pairs, because it’s, well, eye contact -
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they even talked, and we looked at you live, on the tv screens, we were very, very worried and were sick, but i also want to say that it is very important when in the program itself, yes, in the skating itself, these are these sparks that exist between a partner, a partner, between a woman and a man, they spark the entire program, and that's that's it. it's a great feeling when a couple becomes something unified, something so unique, and it only happens at the moment, i always just bathed in it, well, not, probably, maybe not during the program, and then you, when you evaluate what happened , if, god forbid, there was a successful skate, then
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it’s just delight, delight, inner, and you hear the hall, how it’s received, you feel that the judges are already quietly taking your side, this, this is great, this is probably what an art that you learn constantly, that is, you can’t say, that’s all, we perfection in this regard, nothing like that, that is, every time, and the russian challenge, confirmation that you... go out all the time and find these invisible strings that you...
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