grandson, in my opinion, a brother, or a grandson by talent, that is, he him, yes, he identified him as a very talented person, kochalov, but can you imagine what kachalov is, in the twenties and thirties, that was all, and he went to kachalov, this boy, who wandered around moscow, came to work in a koshira, and he could not settle down there, because... he was already cramped, because he lacked the cultural environment in which he had immersed himself, he did not there were enough of these theaters, what kind of amateur theater is this in kashira, where he is also played, he worked as this driver's assistant, rode these trains, and his dream was andrei platonov, assistant driver everywhere, and he still returned to moscow and probably walked along one of the streets written was an appointment at the mkhat iigo studio, the head there . vakhtangov, he

came there, signed up, to show, but vakhtangov is really one of the first students and, well, sulerzhitsky vakhtangov - these are the people who brought stanislavsky’s system to life, when he showed up at vakhtangov’s studio, vakhtangov was not at the show, this the studio people accepted shchyukin, vakhtangov treated shchyukin, well, he saw, he saw, well, a man came, well, he said, well, show what you can? and he sat through, he proved, there is something written in his hand that he saw vakhtangov’s talent, he is a detailed person, he is very, he, he, when he came somewhere, he wrote everything down, he had a wonderful family, tatiana , he was such a modest person, this is the story of his falling in love with shukhmina, this is his wife, in the distant shukhmina, shchyukina, when... they had, well,

a slightly higher social position, and he came, he didn’t do anything, even he couldn’t confess his love, it was she who determined that he was in love with her, she was the one who brought him, he was a very modest person, extraordinary, so they lived their whole lives, they had yegor , this son is wonderful, and he writes to him that you can’t deceive adults, you can’t go out, he writes him a whole sheet of paper on how... he should behave, that he shouldn’t use the benefits of those who do, here it is for his son , he was an amazing person, the appearance of such a child in my life was a complete surprise, the tandem we have is such a small but strong family, we will formulate a request with you, we have a good room, and maybe even better. we came up with

the idea of ​​​​making a shelving here, dad and son leave at 11 or together from the room op, a complex, even just to have fun, very good for the back, everything for cozy evenings is collected in this corner, this includes vinyl, this is a cinema hall, and we are at home hit, about comfort, premiere on saturday on the first, three chords, new season, on sunday on the first. we continue, this is the podcast life of the wonderful, i am with you, it presenter, writer alexey varlamov, my guests are the rector of the shchukin theater institute evgeny vladimirovich knyazev and the rector of the shchepkin higher theater school, boris nikolaevich lyubimov. boris nikolaevich, how did it happen that this modest young man. who was even embarrassed to confess

his love, became such a superstar of soviet cinema, it was he who was entrusted with playing the role of lenin, it’s not a joke to play lenin, it’s not a joke at all, yes, because in general, well, imagine, this is lenin in october, lenin in the eighteenth year, this, this was filmed in the thirty-seventh and thirty- eighth, so, in total, so to speak, 20 years, but what was happening at that time in the country in the thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth year is, perhaps, meaningless here now. telling everyone this is a very big responsibility, because the revolution was made by lenin, stalin, the people, no one from lenin’s inner circle, in fact, by that time they were either pushed aside, like krupskaya or executed, and therefore here is a step to the right, a step to the left, and maybe this will end with nothing whatever, gorky saw that he looked like lenin. back in 1932,

when they were rehearsing there and balychev was rehearsing, he told him that you look like lenin, and ruben. it stuck with him somewhere, when simonov was looking for an artist to play the role of lenin, he remembered gorky’s phrase and offered this role to shchyukin, and the first appearance was in the akhtangov theater, a man with a gun, a man with a gun, it was, they say, this there was some kind of bomb effect when lenin came out on stage when specially... with the artist they made a long corridor so that lenin, who is walking with a long gait along the corridor of smolny, then shadrin as a pusher will come out to meet him for some tea, nowhere to get boiling water, there’s a comrade you can’t tell him, and he leads him to the other side, they say it was

some , well, here’s the effect of a bomb exploding, lenin’s appearance when they started filming. this film, they invited him, but the deadline was so short that they filmed around the clock, and shchukin was also forced to play the repertoire that he had to play, it was all like that, and the responsibility, that’s about which we are talking about, and he writes in these books, what if it doesn’t work out, let’s see what happened, a fragment from the film lenin in october, have you seen lenin, write what kind of... he is, they didn’t bet on copper here, they said, here, he is red-haired, and with a sideways eye, yes, but we think that he is an independent man, strict and enormous in stature, what can we do, what can we do, what is it written,

let’s go to sleep, yes, yes, sleep , in fact, i had a feeling, now, when i watched this film, that this is some kind of fig in pocket, that this is some kind of joke, that lenin looks so funny there, he is so similar to all these jokes about lenin that we told, that i don’t really understand how seriously it was possible to take this picture and this role then? you know, i think that here we still need to immerse ourselves in that time, of course, because of course, most of the audience should have perceived him exactly as the most human.

very second, lenin was always played by people's artists of the ussr, major actors, and the role of stalin there was not much, i think that maybe the hero of your, so to speak, book, mikhail ivanovich bulgakov had not yet found, when batun wrote, the image of stalin that stalin should have, stalin read it and said it wasn’t like that, of course, however ruben nikolaevich simonov as stalin. joseph vasarionovich himself liked it to such an extent that he recognized the man with the gun of the vakhtangov theater, they were even invited to government concerts with an act of

a man with a gun, stalin watched stalin come out, but it seems to me that there is a very it’s also important to ask why he... came to this role, after all, from his generation of vaktang members, he, of course, stood out for the role of yegor boluchev, maybe that’s also why it coincided with him so much, that after all he he was, apparently, not a very healthy man, and even at the age of 40, as those who saw him say, this topic of death, in general, the pain of studying is also a rather early death, so to speak, he is not an ancient old man, easier yes...

untimely, of course, death, i want to say again, at the pinnacle of absolute glory, further, so to speak, it’s even difficult to imagine how it could develop, but in general? but in general, this is his illness, it’s acquired, because when the revolution happened, he came to moscow around these years, returned from koshira, i can’t tell you the exact dates now, he lived in the poveletskaya area, in the studio he walked to mansurovsky lane, he had to work during the day to earn a living, because he had to pay for the studio, it’s also not free.

i complained to my comrades that i didn’t care because he had nowhere to go, and he felt, i felt bad, his comrades, they even called him a malingerer, they all the time thought that he was slandering himself in order for something like this and could not particularly complain, he all the time there was some kind of malaise, he was clutching himself all the time, well, there were no such ... clinics, where to go, you will check all this, that is , the heart has already made itself felt, the heart

has made itself felt, it tingles, it it hurts, it burns, but he still overcomes it, and even these days at night film, but it’s still unknown what will come of it, that’s the result, he fell asleep and didn’t wake up, what a short life he lived, he read the paradox about the actor before his death, that’s how it is, it was he who discovered the paradox about the actor. how should he play the mayor, because he was preparing it, the premiere was about to take place, he didn’t have something there and something like that was there, he walked around, looking for speeches, he was looking for a manner of speaking, he invented it for himself, yes the last one. "the global majority who are in it includes, what countries it consists of, and

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host, writer alexey varlamov, my guests are the rector of the shchukin theater institute evgeny vladimirovich knyazev, and the rector of the shchepkin higher theater school, boris nikolaevich lyubimov. i would like to take advantage of this opportunity, evgenia vladimirovich, let’s talk a little about you, about your work, about the vakhtango theater today. a lot of work in cinema, in the theater, probably a separate podcast could be dedicated to this, but still, this is what is very interesting to me personally, i am very interested in zoyka’s apartment, because zoyka’s apartment was a play by bulgakov, which came from.. .

but because try, we’re not, well, we were all dispersed there in this performance, in this piece in the performance with these artists, but here we are alone, and there is not a single one. national, nor deserved, we were all the same year old and came out on stage and performed this

performance, so i am grateful, well , firstly, this is both bulgakov and the theme. and pain, who played the main character? yul rudberg played in our theater, and maxim sukhanov played amethyst, i played balyanin, seryozha, i saw, i didn’t see shchukin, zhenya saw you, here are three more such great names of russian literature, and the works are on the stage of the theater pushkin, lermontov and tolstoy, and the queen of spades , masquerade and of course war, i play in all of them, and you play in all of them, that’s why i that's why i'm asking, let's do it. now we’ll also look at the screen, this is war and peace, boris nikolaevich, what is the colossal success of this performance, he’s such a big nikolaevich doesn’t think so, but you don’t know, but i’m really imposing my opinion, what do you say, yes, what a great success - this is beyond any doubt, there is no need to even argue here, the performance, the work of evgeniy vladimirovich, i believe that this is

one of - one of, so to speak, the keys to this success. causes the auditorium to become embedded in the tissue this performance, and firstly, in tolstoy, then in myself, i myself love to watch my colleagues behind the scenes, how they play, how they change from performance to performance, and the most amazing thing for me is that the performance

ends in 12:00 at night, by this time not a single person, well, maybe someone ...

these are different things, and then - somehow it stuck, suddenly they called from klin, and from klin from the tchaikovsky museum. they said: we will do it, now we will have such a concert, where there will be works by pushkin to the music of cheikovsky,

you can read something from anegin or from the queen of spades, that’s what he has a work on, i thought, let me try some chapter from the queen of spades, some piece, they, well, great, they typed lisa in singing, german. in dancing, well, in general, they collected all the genres associated with the queen of spades , and there i tried for the first time to read without playing the queen of spades, and it seemed to me from the reception that this could be, then i decided to learn, already learn the entire piece, now i play with great pleasure, it is in great demand modern, oddly enough, it turns out, because now there are also a lot of those people... who are trying to beat fate, yes, but pushkin wrote an incident, a fairy tale, an anecdote,

an anecdote about three cards had a strong impact on the imagination, it seems to me that we are doing great today we also remembered boris vasilyevich shchyukin, we talked about your work in general about the theater, this is completely unnecessary, let’s talk a little more about shchyukin or about the school, our school too , but maybe there’s potential for us. here here is an opportunity to reach out to these young people who dream of working in the theatre, as actors, directors, that’s what you would tell them, they will come there and only work in the theater, who will not be able to do anything else but do this, like shchyukin, for example, who wanted nothing else for himself but to play. stage, he was ready to endure such difficulties and hardships in order to achieve this, we live much easier, today, no one

is hungry, no one suffers, well, maybe not everyone there eats some kind of pickles, but the hungry no, compared to the same twenties, thirties, when people had to survive and when he was a very rich man, because he had two coats, yeah. both seasonal and winter, and so they all went in one, so if you have the passion to engage in this profession, and this is me not without appeal, it is the person who comes who will tell you that he is coming, but those who come are us, i don’t argue i never stop anyone with boris nikolaevich, who go to the shchepkin institute, who first treat us well, and then they say: we want to go to the shchepkinsky school. go, because each person determines his own destiny, and since we have a graft of the vakhtangov theater, our theater exists

only due to, or in spite of, the fact that over all these long years our theater, when other theaters there doubled, tripled, bifurcated, were upset, but we never shared, when we tried to stick to the same school, even like... when a very famous artist came to etush and said that i want to teach you, he said: great, come work for us, but only i would like change school, he said: oh, no, you will work with us according to the school according to which we, which we received from the hands of vakhtangov and which boris evgenievich zakhava developed, is excellent, and we keep this school, we keep it, we try, in any case, as much as possible , as much as possible, because it is easy to destroy, difficult to create.

developing them and living in this small but differently existing collective, a kind of unity with our own problems and, but here we stand and hold on, and we have been holding on in our school for more than 200 years. we are in this sense, and in our this year is 110 years old too many, very, of course, of course, and 130 years of boris vasilyevich shchukin, we have such a double anniversary, so we are also, as it were, on this anniversary, it was not easy for us to survive all these difficult years, but it is possible, and this profession,

if it... as cruchini said on the guilty without guilt, how do you feel about the acting profession, is it an art or a craft, what is it? it’s so rare that our profession and performances become art, but when it happens, you’re ready for it, probably everything give it away because you succeeded, and while there, if there are performances, usually you are some kind of translator between. but suddenly something happens, when the audience, as someone said, when, regardless of class, social status, financial status, nothing, when suddenly the same artists are the same, and you influence them, suddenly they begin to live with one breath, with one

feeling, then... then, perhaps, this is art. thank you so much for this conversation, this was the life of the remarkable podcast. and our guests were two rectors, two wonderful theatrical people: evgeny vladimirovich knyazev, people's artist of russia, rector of the shchukin theater institute, whom we talked about today, and theater expert boris nikolaevich lyubimov, rector of the shchepkin higher theater school. and we are interviewed. the rector of the literary institute was also in charge, yes, we ’ve figured out three rectors here, thank you, hello, this is the baden baden podcast and i’m its host, konstantin severinov, our

guest today is a virologist. academician of the russian academy of sciences, scientific director of the institute serum vaccines named after mechnikov, vitaly vasilievich zverev. vitaly vasilyevich, hello, it’s very nice to see you. hello, konstantin, yes, we are also very pleased. today we were going to talk about seasonal diseases with you. ah, but i would like to start by talking about the world health organization, since you have been an expert and representative of russia in this organization for a long time. and lately there are many people who doubt it. its feasibility, could you tell us what you did there and what you generally think about about the cart? you know, i went to the world health organization in geneva for the first time, it’s scary to think, in 1987-88 i was still representing the soviet union, we were invited by a large number of specialists in order to develop rules for testing vaccines against hiv infection, because then

it was already before us . no, but in front of us, he said, there were 20 people speaking, 22, who said that this is tomorrow, this is already tomorrow, it happens in different ways, and then i was invited to join the cart already in the nineties , when the question of the fate of museums was being decided smallpox, the fact is that smallpox is a virus from which humanity has suffered for thousands of years and which has wiped out, i don’t know, up to a third of the population of europe, but sometimes yes there actually were.

strains, natural variants were eliminated by vaccination, that’s right, yes, they were eliminated by vaccination, the vos announced and signed a document that that’s it, there is no more smallpox, because the smallpox virus , smallpox is a disease of so many people, there is smallpox of different animals, there is elephant smallpox , smallpox is here the monkeys that were there, crocodile pox, there is a lot of it, but the smallpox we are talking about, natural smallpox, is called, it only affects people, therefore, when the last person was cured, the population was vaccinated, such a declaration was signed , what was called eradication, that is, eradication, it was completely eradication, it’s good

, thank god, and of course they stopped even then, they stopped vaccinations, they remained a museum, because our scientists collected all the variants that were isolated from various regions of the world.. .

in order to make such a decision, a so-called consensus is needed, that is, the consent of all members, the specialists of this committee, in order to make a decision, this is the who committee, it made the decision, it was, perhaps, that gathered these specialists , the first time two people abstained, so a few years later they gathered a second time with a slightly changed composition, including me getting into this very committee along with our employee at the institute.

i had, as i remember now, eight arguments why the museum should not be destroyed smallpox, and one from japan supported me, and i was categorically against it, the british, there were two of them, one took the side of the americans, that is, opinions were divided almost equally. this decision was not made at the assembly, but i suggested that this issue should never be considered at all, leaving these museums in these two countries as they are and it was, well, you see, they still exist, it’s like preserving species in

the red book for you dear crowd, because somehow your work actually happened there are many reasons, but firstly, yes, here we are, one of my arguments was yes, we are protecting the amur tiger and something else. only we are now eliminating it, we will never know it again, we will not see it, this is the first, second, we have not fully studied it, there are a lot of interesting genes, products and proteins, and this virus secretes that may be useful to humanity in the future, in- thirdly, i was absolutely sure that the americans would still have a museum of the military fordetrics, in general, if this is poker, then someone can, thirdly, you see what is happening now with the so-called monkey smallpox, but this is not monkey smallpox at all, this is not monkey smallpox, this is smallpox of rodents, ground squirrels, we just imagine a monkey with a banana in his hand or paw, yes, and they eat like people,

that is they have the same thing, they get infected from these ground squirrels, and then people get infected, that is, if there is rodent pox that a person can get, then this suggests that someday... suddenly it could happen that something similar to smallpox virus will spread to the human population, therefore, that smallpox virus is needed at least for comparison, and then also for creation. if suddenly an intentional or unintentional leak from a museum occurs from an american or russian laboratory, then all those who were born after the eighties, generally speaking, will be susceptible to a terrible disease, in principle, in principle, this is this is hundreds of millions of people, these are billions of people actually.

the main thing is birds, there are

about 12-13 variants of the influenza virus isolated from humans, and from humans there are about 12-13 variants of the influenza virus, and in birds this dozens, in southeast asia there is a kind of cuisine where, in general , people, pigs and birds live together quite closely, this is the kind of cuisine where - this is also a feature of the structure of the genome of the influenza virus, each gene is separate and... .. if two different viruses enter one body, there is a rare possibility, but it exists of an exchange of individual genes, a new influenza virus is obtained, this is the first case, the second is the influenza virus itself, it is still passing through asia, through russia, through europe, it used to be like this was classic, now, since people they move on airplanes quite quickly to different parts of the world. it can pass there much faster, well, in this pot in

which viruses are boiled, it’s warm there all the time, there are seasons, well, apart from the rain , there are no new viruses, which for some reason appear here in the fall, or why does it come to us in the fall, autumn and winter, yes, they are created again for these viruses, why are they seasonal, yes , conditions are created, well, firstly, the human body, yes, when we get sick, when we are hypothermic, yes? when we have some kind of yes, when we live quite boringly, if you pay attention, in the summer in moscow, you can move around freely, even by car, yes, in the winter we all kind of gather in such uh, children in school, children come to school, and children are the main carriers of the influenza virus, because any epidemic begins with them, they bring it from child care institutions, kindergartens. no, they’re just

large gathered groups, yes, if one or two people get there, and already with this virus, then the virus spreads very quickly, and the children bring it home, grandmothers, grandfathers, fathers, mothers get sick , yes, this starts, and the flu is generally dangerous, this is how many people in the world die from the flu every year on average, you know, here you are very, very afraid of the flu , look, according to our statistics, i think about 700 people die a year, i mean in the pre-pandemic period, somewhere around 700 or 600 people died, in america during this time about 40 thousand died from the flu, like it may be so, but these are statistics, you know, as they say, there are lies, there are a blatant lie, but there are statistics, but no, we simply count people who have died from the flu, a person came to... a clinic or a doctor came to his home, diagnosed the flu, wrote out

a sick leave, the patient was not cured, died, he is considered dead from the flu, in america they think differently, because the flu, we are now talking about coronavirus, and about post-covid syndrome, all that, and the flu is very dangerous for people with chronic diseases, if, for example, in america a diabetic after the flu for the next died of diabetes two weeks ago, he is considered those who died did not... from diabetes, from the flu, because if he had not encountered this virus, he would have lived a long happy life on his medications, but the flu virus hit his immune system so hard...

the meeting, we are analyzing picture, this meeting involves scientists and health care professionals, and vaccine manufacturers, they also participate in this, all manufacturers, regardless of the country they belong to, they receive the same variants of the virus for production, you return from geneva or returned earlier with a sample of the virus that will be used for production. i sometimes came back if i asked someone for something, but usually not, because we didn’t produce the vaccine, yes, that is, that’s why i didn’t need it, but the manufacturers didn’t receive it right away, that is, they needed it later it was possible to develop this option there, and they were given it , and then they calmly used these options and are still

doing it, now we have an influenza institute, which generally controls all this, as far as i know and... does not work according to who recommendations, because this is a collegial body where scientists, manufacturers all got together, assessed the epidemiological situation based on some objective data and decided, now we will do this, yes, yes, and we answer, if you didn’t guess, the appearance of such a child in my life was a complete surprise, the tandem we have is such a small but strong family, we will formulate a request with you: we have a good room, or maybe it will be even better, they came up with the idea of ​​​​making a shelving here, dad and son leave the room separately or together, hop complex, even just hanging out, very useful for sleeping, in this corner everything for cozy evenings is collected, this is vinyl, this is a cinema hall, and we

got to our home, about comfort, the premiere with... here it is, on the first floor, being filmed wonderful erolalash, i hope that it will be funny, boris yuryevich had some kind of streak, he could choose from the crowd, there are a lot of now famous people, i thanked geralasha, he was just like a kinop, he was, for me, this is not me , it’s her herself, i don’t have an acting education, verolash became the first step in cinema, tell me, well, who am i, i passed. by the way, without testing, he simply told me: “sanya, your emotions are needed here, that’s all, don’t be afraid, we ate on purpose so as not to bite, not to eat small children, it’s a tremendous pleasure and happiness to do what you absolutely love, what the audience loves, there is probably nothing better and there is nothing better, on the occasion of the seventy-fifth anniversary of the birth of boris

grachevsky, on saturday at the first, this ... " today we are talking about seasonal diseases and we are discussing this topic with academician vitaly zverev. we make a decision at the end the episeason, that is, february, that is, everything ends, in february in march everything, well, these respiratory diseases, including the flu, seem to subside. and producers have the summer, yes, the whole summer, yes, in order to get to the fall, because you need to get vaccinated not when it has already begun. well, in fact , you need more, but it is believed that in 2 weeks immunity is already formed, this is august or whenever. no, in principle, it ’s best to do this in august, of course, that is, in advance, and i don’t know, i do this every

year, i have a huge family, i have nine grandchildren there, we always do this somewhere at the end of august, it turns out, before school, yes, we get together, and statistics in this case, well , people always have questions about statistics, well about the effectiveness of the vaccine, about side effects, well, the flu vaccine has been around for a very long time, yes, that is, there is some data on this. there is, you know, there is, of course, in fact, the effectiveness of influenza vaccines is about 80-85%, what does this mean, what does it mean that they have the rest there may be insufficient immunity, that is , the number of antibodies, cellular immunity has not formed, that is , there is no one hundred percent flu vaccine with one hundred percent effectiveness, but there are statistics that our country keeps,

then it will proceed easily, easier, well a cold usually occurs without these complications, without pneumonia, and this is very similar to the situation with coronavirus vaccines, when they were used during a pandemic, there was the same logic that this does not save you from infection, but relieves symptoms reduces mortality, that is, the flu vaccine works the same way, only they change every year, i understood correctly, you know, this is not entirely true. these are different, yes, the flu vaccine is 50 years old, yes, we use different flu vaccines, yes, and

here the technology is already established, everything is clear here, there are practically no side effects, that’s what concerns the vaccines that were used in the united states in america, it doesn’t work out that way there, no, such statistics, if you look at the curve morbidity, compare with the vaccination curve , compare with... a strong decrease in mortality, well, with the flu as well, that is, last year’s vaccine is ineffective against the virus, last

year’s vaccine, it should be effective, you know, the process here is not an easy one, we we look at what was there at the beginning, yes, what was at the end, what was in the same southeast asia, what was the variant at the end of the epidemic, of course, we are not immune from the fact that a new one will appear, but... that , which will be shown next year, we already know, because it there are already, that’s why i say that vaccines are not 100%, but what can we do then, well , that’s it, i think that anyway, not all the residents of our country, and not even the majority, are vaccinated against the flu, even with good conditions, but what should those who are not vaccinated do? that is, seasonality is a certain given due to boredom and so on, changes in living conditions, we will always have an increase in the number of influenza patients. live with all respiratory infections because we...