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this is interesting, yes, but this also cannot be said to be scientific, yes, a scientific approach, after all, it’s more likely the approach of the writer to his reader, yes, there was a subtext, i asked you as a university prisoner, yes, i’m forty i’ve been teaching for the second year, so i keep thinking what i’m doing, i’m infecting and i want to teach how to read or give some kind of list of truths, well, nabokov clearly did the first thing, he infected, he paradoxically read, okay, well... we said that this was a meeting ten-volume works, the most complete, but nabokov’s books continue to come to us to abide, to come, here igor, i know that you wrote about the collection, which in the original was called strong opinions, and is it correct to translate strong opinions, what is it, in general about the new one, after his death he continues to come in different senses , well, to the russian reader, at least. strong's pinis was the credo, and that's
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a good word for this collection. the book was published in america in seventy-three, after transparent things, it is a collection of his selected interviews, which he himself compiled, some his reviews, and it seems to me that there is, by the way , about nabokov’s love for other authors, there is a wonderful essay on inspiration, where he talks about how his thinking process works, this is how he came up with hell, from what fragment such a magical text appeared and ... talks about those he likes in american prose, as in this poem, but he tells us where this on inspiration came from, but it’s as if it’s only about a novel, and not about poetry, and that we learn that the impregnable dream nabokov adored selger, abdike, cheever, and the late john bart, he was actually a generous reader, the assessments he gave out can be harsh if we are talking about thomas mann or maxim gorky, and yes, thomas mann is my favorite. or very flattering, like about sasha
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sokolov, or leni rubrie. the heaviest floods this year occurred in russia. it seemed to everyone that the worst thing was when the water came, but from a medical point of view, all the dangers begin when the water recedes. how to protect yourself and your home? it’s great to live about this and much more in the program. on wednesday on... we continue our conversation, we are talking about vladimir nabokov, about his biography, about his books, and my interlocutors, today the head of the nabokov center of the institute of russian literature, the russian academy of sciences, the pushkin house, tatyana alegovna panomareva and the literary critic, journalist, researcher of nabokov’s work, igor kirien . we have come to the most important thing, just
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recently a huge, meaningful archive of nabokov returned to russia, now it is located in the pushkin house, at the institute of russian literature, the russian academy of sciences, you can say that you are its custodian, so it’s correct to say, but formally, no, formally i’m still not a custodian, i’m more of a scientific supervisor, and i was still involved in the transfer of this process. so now i am, of course, also studying this archive, yeah, now we will see a photograph of dmitry vladimovich nabokov, yes, who played a very important role in ensuring that this archive was consolidated, yes, collected in order, although nabokov himself took care of this , he cared, but nabokov didn't assumed that so soon it would be read, printed and read in russia, for the seventh year.
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at which these objects were shown for the first time, not all, but some of the objects, but this is not an exhibition yet, judging by the packaging, this is preparation, no, this is part of the exhibition like this, like this, yes, the designers of the exhibition thought about what will be shown here what it was brought in, and this is the suitcase in which nabokov kept these items, his family transported them from place to place, because he did not actually have a permanent home it was nowhere to be found, so it was all transported by car.
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yes, well, in general, you see, here, he gnawed everything, he literally gnawed everything, yes, yes, yes, yes, all his objects of writing, all gnawed, apparently, dear friends, these are fountain pens that do not write in all directions, there is a pusher without pushers, there is a hairline, this is the motor skills of writing
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that disappeared forever under the onslaught of ballpoint pens, felt-tip pens, and even more so keys, this is the return of the archive to its homeland, this is how close you are again? brian boyed in his biography, he arose and how much of this is still stored somewhere and maybe in this archive also awaits us, as some discoveries await, it’s clear, well, still , i want some very vivid detail, what’s there in the archive, that no one has yet knows, well, here is correspondence with vera trail, yes, who is the daughter
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of guchkov, well, the most famous russian, russian politician, and then the wife of suvchinsky, one of the founders of eurasianism. we too, i hope you remember, are our listeners, because you don't speak, but read, according to our slogan, so you know who we are suvchinsky, who is trubetskoy, who are the eurasians, of course, well, vera trail, nabokov’s interlocutor, what is interesting in this correspondence that has become available to us? the interesting thing is that it ’s hard to call this actual correspondence, these are several letters, yes, this is very interesting, because it speaks, firstly, about the stability of the political... views of nabokov and his wife, who vera trail was a completely different person, of course, the political camp, she was a communist there, at one time, she was considered a soviet agent, and apparently, on the one hand, they did not want to communicate with her, on the other hand, it was impossible not to respond to her letter at all, because the letter was so very
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polite, personal, she knew nabokov’s sister, so they came up with a very sophisticated a way, on the one hand, to answer, on the other hand, as if not to even put your signatures, therefore... the answers are signed with very funny initials jc, which of course reminds us, this was the time of the opera jesus christ superstar, where this j is constantly jesus christ , yes, yes, yes, yes, they signed, or rather their secretary, who usually did not write such letters, but here jc signs, and the answers themselves, of course they are just very, this is just a very very interesting correspondence, because, because of course, when i saw it, i was amazed, because i understood that... it seemed like nothing could connect them, and indeed, as it turned out, they were connected only by vera trail’s acquaintance with nabokova’s sister olga, with whom they, it turns out, studied together in berlin, at a russian school, after this is how they met, this is how they met way nabokov came up with a way to answer her, at the same time without entering into
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correspondence, so this seems to me to be interesting to read, a wonderful story, well , let’s name it again, i’ll include myself if you allow me, our general conversation is not then...
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why nobokov is interesting to our contemporary, let’s finish with this, this will be our final one. chord, why it is important, what is most important in our time, nabokov’s or this time, let’s start with you this time igor, nabokhov had a metaphor that this is his ideal condition... existence of creativity, this is life on campus with a huge number of books, free time, it seems to me that in a sense, right now with the advent of the internet, we can read in a new way what we did with our hands in the beginning , slavists, researchers in russia, now things are being done much faster, much more intellectually, we can finally get a grasp of the sideways, in fact, brian boyt wrote an article lolita, what we know and what we don’t know, it’s about lolita, about...
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thank you very much, we are not finishing this conversation, because it is endless, we go to read, and i tell you, as always, read it with pleasure, dear friends. hello, dear friends, this is. podcast life of the remarkable, i’m with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov, and in my studio
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, the rector of the shchukin theater institute evgeny vladimirovich knyazev, people’s artist of russia and theater historian, rector of the shchepkin higher theater school boris nikolaevich lyubimov. the reason for our meeting was the anniversary of boris vasilyevich shchukin, who turns 130 this year. boris nikolaevich. what can we say about this wonderful actor, this is how he is remembered in the history of russian theater and russian cinema, yeah, this is a very difficult question - for many reasons, in general, when you talk about actors, when you give lectures, say, on the history of theater, in contrast to history and literature, you know very well, you can’t take a book off the shelf, no, especially if we talk about theater, there is no... that living role that you can show today: for decades there are no people who
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have ever seen machalov live , shchepkina, there sadovskikh and so on. but here you go, shchokin, whom we can see live, yes, a photograph, but he will not leave here, this is the most difficult thing, it seems that he died in 1939, it seems that this was quite recently, historically a very short period of time. but there are practically no people who saw him alive, on the other hand, this time, which seems to be distant, is still close, this is the time of our grandfathers and grandmothers who saw it, this optics is very complex, finally, it’s still here there is a moment, it's very early died, 45 years old, he did not live to the age when, say, he would have played king lear. and there would be a whole chronicle of the life of creativity and so on, he died in the thirty-ninth year,
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and he - starting with the generation, the wonderful generation of vakhtankov actors, so to speak, next to them, uh, at some point, probably starting from the role of yegor bolychev, he simply went up sharply, he was on the first list of those awarded the title of people's artist of the ussr, he received the stalin prize posthumously, he was all laid out. here in these 15-20 years of his creative life, what could be said, judging by what i read and what those who told me about him...
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very often turandot’s philosophy is reduced to such capricious stupid playfulness, which was present in it, but behind which stood zavadsky’s powerful philosophical worldview. twenty-second year, the civil war had just ended or was ending, there was no family in which, so to speak, there were not killed, wounded, arrested, deported, with whom ties were severed. wow, irony, joke, prank, fun that conquers death, destruction, despair and so on and so forth, this is the line that existed and which lived, on the other hand, there is a type of actor who probably belonged to him, not can play episodic roles, if he should be the first on stage,
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lenin, yes, the main one,
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is alive today only thanks to the fact that after his death he was laureate of the stalin prize, people's artist of the soviet union, when he died untimely , his name assigned to our institute, you see, here, here is shchyukin, shchyukin, shchyukin, shchyukin, now we can name you a huge
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galaxy of artists of the twenties and thirties who were brilliant. because this comes from his students and the name shchukin also rings loudly today from his students, from the fact that we study at the shchukin school, and the rest, those conjectures, there is no one to ask, the books have not been written, nothing has been written, i can speak , that this actor
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is of unusually tragic talent, he did not play king lear, he... did not even play the mayor, because on the eve of the premiere he died, but i prepared for this role very seriously, the only role that remains in the history of the theater is his bolychev, and as if - i can’t, i have nothing to rely on except some facts, where - a theatrical article about bulychev, who was in amkhat, and was in vakhtango... the theater, where, despite the grandeur of dova, shchukin presents the most highly, whether this is true or not, i don’t know. but this has remained in history, the man is extraordinarily talented, because he plays so furiously and so brilliantly.

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