crimea may 9 on the first, who are you? reconnaissance of the caucasian front, christ of the resurrection, today we have gathered our thoughts on the holiday of feasts, easter. after communion, i noticed not only on easter , but that all the same, some circumstances begin to develop in such a way as to somehow pull you out of this goodness, but again into some kind of everyday life, into some, i don’t know, maybe some kind of conflict, something else, it’s very difficult, you see, after communion, you’re... different,

really, as father mikhail says, with some other coordinate system, you go out with something into another world, then you find yourself again in the real world, where this happened, that happened, and you don’t care, that’s how to keep it in yourself, i think, go to church more often and especially on holidays, which, because the churches are all special on these days, and the royal doors are open, but for me, on the contrary, it needs to be explained very much, why the royal doors are open, yes, because the royal doors.

the soul feels, it feels very deeply, some kind of heavenly kingdom, all the same somewhere inside where i can’t explain, that’s why it’s a bright week for me, i want to serve every day, i’m afraid, so to speak, that i’ll take up the entire altar, so well, i still try to serve as often as possible, because for me, i want to get enough of it, so i recommend easter to everyone more than just one day, all easter week, to listen to this easter, yes... go to services, take communion, yes, and then this joy is enough for her, that’s really it, it’s in remains in memory as something most significant and bright, yes, that’s why we are weak, you know, for humans in general, i always thought, it’s easier for us to understand sin, because to understand sin you just need to let go of the internal brakes a little, and you immediately fall into wherever you want, but it’s difficult for us to understand joy, because we really don’t because...

then to rejoice, yes, here is a person in grief, and we empathize, do you need help there and so on, here is a person who succeeded in something and somehow come running, as if somehow a little more complicated his condition, yes the pastor is here. this is what i'm saying, this is what i'm saying, what's this the state is so unusual, the meaning of easter i also wanted to talk about, here we have an icon of the resurrection, this is the descent of vaat, by the way, not just father michael, please explain to us why the easter icon , the resurrection icon is called the descent into hades, well, probably because easter goes into hell, because hell is the human soul without god, well , that’s how we understand it, yes, well, because there is a tradition that christ, no, christ definitely enters hell on holy saturday, yes, we know about it. but in fact, the human soul without god is hell, so it turns out, this is true, well, that’s why god always descends into the soul like vaat, in order to resurrect it, so sunday is not only the resurrection at easter, this sunday is generally a touch to god, this is the resurrection, well, when he touches

us , and if he is not in our life, it means that such a nightmare begins inside us, but here i just want us to read some symbols, these are how you can say it, these are tablets, right?

now i’ve already experienced everything, that it’s impossible to go back, that it’s impossible to change what i did, it’s impossible to buy something there that i no longer have, say, family there or friends or anything else, and it seems to a person that it’s too late to live, now life has been lived, it didn’t exist, and what to do now, here’s how if suddenly all this breaks down, they say, but life is not too late, here it is life, here it has come, even to the robber in the last minutes of his life, fullness has come, and this fullness, it completely covers all our desires. i also wanted to talk about the easter service, do you have something, i don’t know, favorite in the time of the easter night service, that’s what i like most of all, because there’s a lot of things, and christ is risen, and the easter canon is sung, and well, a lot of things, but i

probably like the moment, excuse me, when the priest runs around like that temple, running straight, christ will rise, the truth will rise, christ just like that, here he is straight. once you can see how tired he is, that’s all, well, as you say, yes, well, there is such lightness, such joy that this happened, that the blessed fire came, it seems to me, probably not, well, yes, that’s all - after all, after all after all, a church, a meeting of believers, that is , it’s like a complete temple, you, you, you say, when christ is risen and the full temple answers, he is truly risen, it doesn’t just sound loud, it sounds somehow, but you can clarify, we see this, we see you all the time.

easter sanctuary, everything is very fast, bright, major key, suddenly in the silence, the flesh of sleep, as if dead, resurrected, this sanctuary yes, a different, different sound, you know, it’s like such a contrast, yes, on the one hand, easter is joy , it's loud, it's so strong,

it’s fast, it’s bright, on the other hand, because at the time of easter no one saw, after all, they came to the tombs at night, silence, the sun has not yet risen, this is flesh and falling asleep, it’s like dawn, you know, we’re still invisible to the sun, yes , and the sky is already illuminated, this is the flesh of sleep, as if dead, this is this chant for me, but i always love it very much, it is precisely for this anticipation that here we are standing on the threshold, now, now, so to speak, this coffin we will see open, yes, and so to speak, everything christ is risen, this will become for us reality, this is about to come into our lives, and you feel this is what father mikhail spoke about just now with such inspiration, but this unity, by the way, there really is a lot of things there, the priests change their clothes, i. .. i noticed that in recent years, in my opinion, this appeared when our women began to change their scarves, yes,

because red, well, the easter color, that’s red, yes, and accordingly, they come there in white scarves, and then once, and i also observed this, well, some kind of unity, of course, of course, and by the way, i really like it when everyone sings prayers together, strongly, yes, it just affects something from the inside, it’s somehow. well, the soul feels it, we are worried, well, that means we are alive, well, here is the gospel, yes, we know that the gospel is always read during the liturgy, but at easter there is a special story here, in our church, at least there is a tradition of reading in different languages, this is what can be said about this tradition, in general, how much like how you have it passes, because it is also different, there is a large passage from the gospel of john read, someone, someone reads. no, well , now we don’t read in languages, we only read slavic, when

the svtsaritsiya narrowed it down, we read in eight or nine languages, it took quite a long time, i read in french, someone there read in -english, classical languages, hebrew and greek and latin, you see, we also know how we did it, we went to the temple, that is, we read not forcefully, that is, not from the altar, as the priest usually reads, not in front of the altar, as the deacon reads, and we went out to the church and stood among the people. that is, it was as if it was a voice from the people, yes, that is, this gospel was spoken as if on behalf of everyone, and on behalf of different languages, that is, on behalf of different people, and this is surprising, because the word of god, it really, it not only in the altar, not in the deacon, it, the word of god, is the property of everyone in general, we must feel this together with the unity in the easter chants, and together saying christ is risen, that in general easter is the property of the whole world, this is what how the world will live. all languages, all peoples, so to speak, they can get closer to this easter, they can draw inspiration from it,

draw strength, so this easter reading for me, especially when in different parts of the temple they suddenly began to read, well, read according to verses , they broke it up for luck, if the whole thing is difficult, we broke it down there before, we agreed, which means what parts we break it into, there are three, say, verses or four verses each and we read, but i must say, first of all, this greatly lengthens service, and despite people don't complain about that. that is, this, too , they feel some kind of hidden something in this, and that it’s easter, once upon a time languages ​​divided people, once upon a time, well, the creation of babylon, we believe that the division of languages ​​came from there, but suddenly easter unites, that is it covers the whole world again and it’s as if all the languages ​​are gathering back into themselves again, i think that probably this question arises for me, tell me, in the kingdom of heaven, what language will we speak, well, the french will be there, the english, the chinese will end up in the kingdom.

actress elena zakharova, proteria mikhail potokin, i am vladimir ligoida, we gathered our thoughts on the occasion of the holiday of easter . let's continue. no, i know what i wanted to ask you, because it is connected with the easter holiday, this is the most important topic, john the myrrh-bearer, yes, we understand that on golgotha, in general, there were none of the disciples, with the exception of john, yes, and indeed one can say that not only judas betrayed christ, not only he was afraid.

so you will guess with your earthly mind and you won’t feel it, you won’t understand yourself, but they understood the whole depth, precisely because at some point they said: the mind doesn’t understand, but the heart pulls there, and we must all go there, this is trust in your heart, trust, yes with its intuition, some kind of cordiality, yes, it is theirs, it leads them first to christ, so here are the ways of understanding the human, humanity, they are just shown, but you know, it really seems to me that here i am, in what ? i agree, if i understood you correctly, that there may indeed be some kind of firmness and strength in there are more women, and even if we look at the story of the fall, connected with history, with easter itself, yes, because the saviors actually come to correct what once failed for people, there are different explanations for why the serpent seduces a wife , yes, and no, not adam,

someone says, because she is weaker, yes, but there is another logic, it’s like... as they say, like in a fight, yes, who should be beaten first, the healthiest one, yes, seducing his wife, the snake understands that she can cope with the man, but if he seduced him, he wouldn’t the fact that he succeeded, yes, so this is the power of a woman, it seems to me that this is really what we see in the myrrh-bearing women and maybe we even see in history at the beginning of holy scripture, they somehow come together here , yes, i’m not even talking about this famous phrase that handkerchiefs saved the church, but about soviet times... a lot of elderly women go to church, who filled the church and refused to leave in the harshest years, so here it ’s impossible to refuse it here , icons that now bring a lot, which with

women saved temples, yes, that is, this love is caring for the temple, but how it is like about a living being, like about a child. in their own way, as if it was something personal that connects them with the temple, not just here, but as a living thing, as a living being, their relationship to the temple, to the divine service, to what is illuminated, to the icons, well, this, you know, this is precious it’s worth it, this resonates with you that father yes, that’s why it seems to me, this is a fact, i think that men waved sabers back then , when women were wearing headscarves, in churches, men were running, shooting, men were, were, were too, just a question. the fact is that probably each gender has its own peculiarities, yes, some mental abilities, so they are revealed in different ways. tell me, dear friends, we have already started talking about easter week, it is clear that probably the most important, the most joyful, the deepest thing is the experience of worship every day, if someone succeeds, and you said it wonderfully , father, but

it is clear that easter is a theme that permeates the entire culture, and our entire life, the whole culture, if we look at... if the priest gave his blessing, maybe she would agree, but what is your attitude, no, you know, i’m so immersed in the temple these weeks that i practically don’t leave there, naturally you don't leave from from here.

that is, when it’s difficult for me, i start reading and reading not only the holy fathers or something there, but sometimes it’s hard to read them, well, just somehow you take our literature directly, so to speak, the soul rests, you think, what depth in people, you understand this depth is also where it comes from, who who gave them such a heart, yes, who gave them such a mind, and where did they get everything from, but look, many of them, in general, were spiritual people, no no, maybe not much, we know them in the church, right? but their attitude to faith, their attitude to life, it still prompts them in their creativity, yes, that for them it was all serious, that it was deep, therefore for me all all literature is ours, it is

beautiful and deep, a classic , yes, our music too, all this inspires, but still for for me, easter is what’s in the church, these are the easter texts, you know, our attitude towards them is, well, unfortunately we read them , well, probably very little, everything there is, well... we read the easter canon for a week, yes , we also read the easter hours there a little, it seems to me that in general this is amazing poetry, it is so beautiful, and just the stichera of easter, and yes, the resurrection god, that’s it, well, it’s amazing, you know, i want to sing it from morning to evening , well, that’s why they really are from a cultural point of view, because it’s in fact, it’s also poetry, this is poetry and beautiful poetry, this is this example, but this is still why it comes together here for me...

we are tired and we understand what it means to share, joy, it is not yours, but when you share, about 200 people, and we are already sitting there , it is multiplying, you said it correctly, you know, dear friends, you won’t believe it, i wanted to ask you about this as a final question, because i absolutely. i agree, it seems to me that any joy, yes, is real, but easter absolutely sure, then it’s full-fledged, when you want and can, and

share it with someone, it’s very cool if there is such an opportunity to go to people who, well , maybe won’t survive this joy, yes, if you don’t invite these homeless people, and surprise, i surprise myself, they, i was afraid that they would come drunk, they would be there, no, they would come sober, yes, that is, it’s interesting that the person answers you, yes, although it turned out...

thank you very much, dear friends, thank you for this absolutely, absolutely easter conversation, i am very grateful to you, christ risen, risen, dear friends, the creative industry podcast is live.

a certain regime of not overeating, this is mandatory, well, you need to move at my age, for example, if i don’t move, then i’ll just sit and watch the first channel, but how to move, what does it mean to move, well, move or to walk, my mother, for example, she was 85 when she was 86, she says, if i don’t walk for an hour, i feel bad, so to walk, that means she didn’t

do all sorts of exercises there. and i'm exercising, i know that you wake up and do exercises lying down, 35 minutes, no, well, just lie there, you just need to pull your heels, like this with your left, this is here with your heel, not there, but the whole leg, like this, it goes like this, uh-huh, like this, like this, and, that is, for this to move here too, here is the pelvis and this is from yoga, to me this is lenya derbenev, my poet, said so, says, and you...

that alexander segevich, somewhere i met that in his youth you were called iron shurik, why iron, maybe i worked like an iron robot, like an iron woodcutter, i worked every day from morning to night, from morning to nights, as much as possible, it brought me pleasure, not that i forced myself, and

i am now without work. i don’t even know what i would do, i wouldn’t be interested in living, it ’s just that, as i always say, my work, for me it’s oxygen, that is, this is the recipe, you need to work with pleasure, profession, you are still working since every day from 9 to 13 you have a working day, yes, that is, you now do not take any breaks, no rest and work and no yes, then i have lunch, had lunch, well... during lunch, breakfast dinner, if i allow you to read, because i don’t have time to read something, and while i’m eating, it means i’ve already read something, there’s something to read, i still need to read something, but what are you do you like to read, what do you have, well, it varies, sometimes some new musical, so, well, let’s say, we had a fairy tale about tsar saltani, i had to read pushkin in all, but of course i read it in childhood,

but that’s all i still had to read it again. and if i wrote a song before, for example in a movie, i always tried to make it out of it, if there two or three songs and says: well, we need at least one hit, but one, but you don’t know what it will be, or whether it will be, so you have to make every hit, and then you look, maybe there’s only one song left, this people are already deciding, i had a case, it means that the film was like this, uh,

when you say, stories, say, who watched the film brave shirak, such silence, very quiet, no one will say anything, otherwise no one watched, i say, here there were two songs. one thing you probably already know, the magician is in short supply, yes, the wizard is in short supply they know, inin arkady copied the script, when we were working, there were two songs, lyrical and magician, he says, this is the lyrical one, it will be a hit, magician - no one needs this at all, it’s the other way around, you know, how it turns out, by the way, i’m bad i remember this film because it came out in 1976, and i was born in 1977, so well, in general, but we know the song.

performers that you would be pleased to see, well, even in my musical, which was staged by moza, lee, and there are artists she worked with, and there are an interesting singer, performer, by the way, his name is anton, and his last name is zatsepin, what an unexpected, what an unexpected coincidence, very interesting, and he is a wonderful singer, he performed several songs there, well, by the way, anton, in my opinion, became famous thanks to the first channel, a factory of stars, yes, yes, uh-huh, they say that this is like a son, no, this is not a son at all, but he has the same last name, but it coincided, and somehow i always

thought that this is your relative, though i didn’t get too far, but for some reason i got along, yes, that it is necessary for relatives, children to follow in the footsteps of creative people, i wanted. i myself made the scores for all the songs, that is , you hear perfectly, that is, you had absolutely no problems with your hearing at all, that is, usually musicians have a slight hearing deformation, but you hear everything,

any note, any orchestra, everything you still create it yourself, well, of course, you sit at the computer, the royal is in another room, it’s been 20 years now and it’s already upset, but i don’t even use it... when i studied, i studied at the conservatory, where my teacher was bruselovsky evgeniy grigorievich from the leningrad conservatory, but not from st. petersburg, then he was still called from the leningrad conservatory, he studied with glozuny, so he is a wonderful composer, and

the most important thing is that the teacher is still a good one, so he told me when i i came back in my first year and i said, i said, evgeniy, yesterday i worked until 3 o’clock, that’s what i was sitting there. and he says, he did n’t call me sasha, but shura, shura, you ’re going to ruin your health, what do you think, we need to wait for some kind of inspiration, inspiration comes, when you work, it will come, so i work, for example, from 9 to one i work, then lunch, then i go somewhere, i still need to go to the publishing house or somewhere else, go to the composers’ union, some business, etc. , and then in the evening they work again, but they won’t finish their work until the night, because if you work until...

victory day, victory day, festive evening, may 9 on the first, they call me, greetings, tomin from ugrodovsk, the first perception of the audience anyway, major tomin and there’s no escape if he feels like he doesn’t care and doesn’t professionalism, then this of course infuriates him . he has great feeling. responsibility, masculine charm and masculine

self-confidence, this is a man who lifts dumbbells every morning, it’s a great pleasure, i’ll tell you, this gym is amazing, he works out, he keeps in shape, he’s very efficient, yes he gets tired, but he doesn’t i can’t live with this, i believe in omens, probably all actors believe, but in a black eye, so you have to spit it out. this is a podcast of the creative industry in the studio of roman karmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, elena kiper, producer and music video director, our guest is alexander sergeevich zatsepin. alexander sergeevich, in the old days you literally assembled the equipment for your studio yourself.

the wrong one always turns out anyway, there are some mistakes somewhere, it’s like you have to spend time editing anyway, but don’t write out every note, it’s easier, so i took some kind of chord, i immediately have all these chord notes, but so i would write every note there, it’s time to waste, that is you use the most modern technologies, of course, all the programs now are so wonderful, there is no feeling that...

and he says: just tell me, if you are writing fish, then please don’t write, do some of your own, because it distracts me, there are words like this, dear, dear, dear, beloved, with all the emphasis mine, from these words, but then he generally refused, and he asked me

to sing 10 verses of mine, sing me 10 verses of your sad , in a sad voice, that’s what he said to me, i sang to him. three verses, edited, made he is 10 or 12, he says: you see, i work, how i turn on the tape recorder, walk around the room, listen to music and write poetry, that’s how he wrote, so he did everything very musically, all the caesuras that there are in music, he did everything in verse, but in general these are long-term creative alliances, but you and gaidai worked with derbyanev, how it all happened, it often happened like this, so, well , i’ll tell you. one example, a singer came to me, i played some kind of melody, from the melody, which means they decided what key where make it lower, higher, as convenient for the voice, that is, first of all, the melody, well, first yes, then, then i, which means that for cinema there should already be some specific theme,

let’s say, well, there’s a love song, for example, or a wizard, like this, i didn’t know it would be a wizard, i wrote the music. so we played everything, then we had to record it, which means you record it, first, since the vocalist and i already have an agreement on such and such a key, then you start making an arrangement, it comes, i really like vitaly kleynot, such a musician, helped then, we were already writing when the music

began, rock, the seventies, a little something else, before that everything was on... i brought it, he just brought it, well, he and i already talked about song, he roughly listened to it, so he simply played it on the tape recorder, or sang it a little, or with poetry, he, just like an island of bad luck , came to him, the song was not, because it was planned, it was not in the script at all ,

island of bad luck. all covered with greenery, absolutely the entire island of bad luck in the ocean is an island of bad luck in the ocean is all covered with greenery, absolutely all of it, unhappy people live there, savages on the face , terrible, kind on the inside, on the face, terrible, kind on the inside, live there. derbinev brought this to me, he said: listen, show gaidai, maybe he ’ll take it, and gaidai took it, of course, mironov did it well, it’s just that after him no one could do it like that, and if these songs had not appeared in films, they would have a chance to sing on the air, they could come to the radio,

there, for example, in those days there was this good morning program and an evening program there program, but it’s right there... the whole problem was, yeah, so the poems, well, this, this is very difficult for us, it won’t work, but it’s from the film, i say, this is you, it doesn’t concern you, it’s not you ordered, either in this form, or you don’t take it, no, i say, don’t redo anything, i won’t do anything, they took it, but a new song that is not from the film, that was a problem, that is, cinema was the surest way to deliver it to the audience , but there were more movies. the possibilities for the text were different , everything was different, i had a case - i was making a gran record on the melody and it was called, it’s not about the weather, well... it seems like there’s nothing wrong with it, but bad advice went through, everything went through, they looked at it, everything was handed in as a record, the cover was already ready,

at that moment it was necessary to send something somewhere - then up to the komsomol there or somewhere else , i don’t know, and from there a letter came, it’s not about the weather, change the name, it’s not about the weather, which, logically, changed the name, it would work in a movie. please tell me, here you are - twenty-second, twenty-third years , you re-wrote songs for the record, for vinyl, in the studio secret of the third planet, that’s all, why is it yes, my manager did it, he was the one who released the records, he said, alexander sech, can i, here i will release the records, that is, you are again on the wave, well this is the merit of my manager, this is...

me, and my grandmother even shed tears, she says how sad, she says what a sad song it turned out to be, well, then i composed,

i composed, but my father was a surgeon, well, he really loved music, on saturday he he forced me, let's go listen to music, i sat down, there was this potyphon, so we listened to tamchakovsky there, the lemishev performers were there and... well, everything, everything, everything, all the performers knew everything, then opera and ballet, in general, he enlightened me, well , too, maybe it went in one ear and out the other, but what - all that remained was how old were you when your dad played music for you, but about 11 years old, that’s already the case, but not every saturday, when he could too, because it depended on him, he worked more than one job, then he had some other consultations somewhere and... he couldn’t, that means no, they didn’t listen, but mostly they still listened, i i remember, and somehow at first it was difficult for me

to sit and listen, because the guys there were playing football in the street or something like that, and i could see out the window there, and i had to listen, and then somehow i turned on and listened with pleasure , we continue the creative industry podcast on channel one, we have a guest today , you know, well, it’s hard to describe, it was also a song from a film, it was yes a song from a film, it was a song above me, the sky is blue

clouds, libitive, here such a song from the movie our dear doctor, silver leaves, gently smiled at me, the rogue wind flies, hurries after me, like a rider on a horse, above me, the sky is blue, the cloud is swan-like and floats and calls for a long journey after itself, white. irmek sirkibaev is a people's artist there, but he is all the time, when he went to moscow, he did a lot of concerts in moscow, he did classics,

there was figoro, figaro, figro, this one and... if both had not gone, it would have been of course it’s unpleasant, yeah, the moment of star fever was experienced, no, no, it wasn’t, i was always trying something new, something new, and derbinev, too, everything, i sometimes told him, i i say, lenya, well, for a long time you can’t write everything, but the most difficult thing, he says, is to come up with something, when i know what, i

’ll do it in 2 hours, that is, his technique was excellent. but here’s how to write songs about love, but again, what does he say, well , the song, well, again, i love you, and i’m suffering without you, that means, here it is, here an idea came to him, for example, a mirage, about odinsky sang, mirage, mirage, that’s how i’m approaching, that is, it’s hard to come up with this, let’s talk a little more about how you met and how did this moment of grinding happen? after all, two creative people, yeah, interesting, yes, when he quarreled with nikita bogoslovskaya, it means he had no one, no candidate, no, he didn’t know composers, especially, just nina, his wife , nina grebeshkova, she said, well, take this young composer zatsepin, he has a good song, there’s no bassine over me, he says, i know

the songs, good ones, the songs are good, but i don’t know how he will write an eccentric for me. i have to think, then i still took a risk, here’s the first one the song you showed him is what it was, i didn’t show him any songs, there was an operation and a film, there’s no song there, and the music in the third novel i wanted there to be a song when they show the house there, they’re there in the window it’s like they’re hugging, but also this, but close to this, in any case, i say, lenya, i say, let’s make a song here, no, no, no, there’s no song... there’s no need for a song here, i just i even told him two or three, i said, we’re not risking anything, we’ll record a song, yeah, we’ll play it, if you don’t if you like it, take it away, there will be instrumental music, no, no, you just don’t need to record the songs, don’t, and then he often told me, if you had insisted, the song would have remained from the film, such a regret, i say, i say, first since i 'm working with you, i have to somehow force you

to agree. well, of course, it was necessary, gidai could guess the hit, will this song be a hit or not? no, the only thing he said was, i need a song, not the kind that ’s played on the radio or on records, but one that people sing, i say, lenya, that’s the task it’s very complicated, whether people will sing or people won’t sing, well, in the beginning, that means there was an operation y, these songs are there, i just jumped to the latest new one.