western and they don’t pay her fees for the interview, and alexey thought it was unfair, yeah, but since there’s a lot of money to write with letters and papers, he ought to pay well, otherwise it’s somehow inconvenient for the state , it’s a shame, he gave his fee , wow , no, the man, he was of high class, and this story with alleluyeva speaks about it, because well, can you imagine the girl there, i can imagine it, the girl with whom there is not even...

yes, they impose hands themselves, that's how many sentenced to death, they they take their own lives, so sometimes i think, maybe kapler was so brave and out of fear that there was no life anyway, no prospects ahead, so he entered into this affair with svetlana aliluyeva, no, it doesn’t seem to you, it seems to me that this well, the first time was okay, but i could have fallen in love with those crazy blue eyes and red hair, by the way, she was pretty, unspeakably with those transparent eyes until she was old, but the second time already.

we should somehow schedule a visit, i have an advantage, this is some kind of evidence corpses, she loves it, the ex-wife caused a scandal, screamed that she would kill them both, you can smell it, gentlemen, yes, there are notes of mousse. how do you like the new forensic expert to record the most prominent person in the opera? well, everyone seems to have left, if this is not murder, does it mean kidnapping or a faked kidnapping? assault group, readiness number one, that is, it’s not safe to be here with you, it’s not safe to be with me at all, uh, no, i won’t take you like this, go back and get treatment, otherwise, can you explain to me what’s going on? not worry, this is a formality as part of the investigation, the genetic fingerprints of ubi.

again you lie in the night, your eyes open, and you have an old argument with yourself, you say, he’s not so beautiful, but your heart answers, well, everything doesn’t go to you, damned dream, you keep wondering where the truth is, where lie, you say, he’s not that smart, but... he answers, well,

then fear is born in you, everything falls, everything collapses around, and you tell your heart, you’ll be lost, and your heart answers, well, so what , we are talking today about yulia drunina, here she is, well as if she was deprived of income in childhood, then... she comes across a husband-father who gave her everything in the material sense, and he also took care of her physically, some pills and look, after the war she was deprived of sleep, and she started having problems sleeping, and it was impossible to buy good sleeping pills in soviet times, but alexey kapler buys her this medicine, imagine, some kind of happiness suddenly for many, many years... but she tamed it, here again,

what kind of woman, that is, what kind of woman can tame such a man, especially all from the outside they even said that he loved her madly.

drunin's glider house of creativity, it's already three o'clock in the morning, i've already packed my things, i have the need to admit that i love you very much, my infinitely dear, again, i miss you in a completely different way, i'm just terribly shocked that i can't call you in your room whenever you want,

i’m unaccustomed to living separately, the vestibular apparatus is not designed, i’m losing my balance, again the chapler, he sent her these notes on the train, good morning, chapler, it’s just that there’s a carriage there. i went to such and such a place this morning in your honor, a forced march to mayakovskaya, i just can’t stop admiring how good i am, my dear, what a shame that i can’t say anything necessary, i kiss you according to the number of kilometers separating us, count your husband, comrade kapler, well, these are of course very alive relationships, they are interesting and here are two talented people, how does this turn out to be a garbage fool, you made me just a fool who understood something in life. “i love you incredibly, and it always pierces me to the very depths when i look at you, and i’m so proud of you, as if you were mine.” child, and i gave birth to you like this, your person always and forever. well, this is amazing, of course, it’s just that all this lasted 19 years, that’s

a very long time, that is, the relationship was alive until the very end, he was so mature that he understood that he would leave someday and much earlier than she and he ..." was very worried about this, and he put straw on her in every possible way, and i - about the fact that kapler began to fade away, well, they lived 19 happy years, and he, she had a good influence on kapler, yulia drunina, she forced him walk, they walked around the old crimea, walked along all these paths voloshinov, like a tybeli, he even lost weight there, became healthier, in general there are advantages to life with a young woman, of course, and then when you... all in black, loaded with black melancholy , it wouldn’t occur to you to write a script, a striped flight, oh yes, a striped flight is written only when everything around you is blue and green, and what a romantic amphibian man, the script is based on the novel by alexander

belyaev, there was also inspiration for a second life, and romance, it so happened that julia dronina tamed this lavilas. to the bottom, someone on the contrary, at the expense of their partners , suddenly shoots like this, grows, that’s when something is real, there is no such thing as unhappy love, it doesn’t happen, don’t be afraid to get into the epicenter of a super-powerful explosion, which is called hopeless passion, if it bursts into the soul

flame, souls are cleansed in the fire, for this with dry lips, thank, whisper to spring, well, it associates love with a cleansing flame. and you larisa argue that she is a mason, but she has a mythological consciousness, in which, uh, the worse, the better, that is, love is a cleansing flame, that is, what is it. everything is bad, but for others, when everything is fine with them and some people need to write to create, when they have enough to eat, it seems to me that with yulia drunina, well , we’ll continue to trace now, everything was fine with poetry when she had everything. in the heart and soul there is such more or less peace, peace

and well-being. yes, this can be traced, that is, when she had difficult times, she did not write poetry, when everything was fine, the poetry flowed. this is a podcast of letters, i’m larisa guzeeva, my guest is agla ibatnikova, and we’re talking today, we remember today yulia drunina, who would have turned ten. may 100 years, of course, they were happy, happy in the crimea, by the way, the amphibian man was filmed in the crimea, this whole love story was written on these crimean stones, and it was filmed there, in general, there really is a love story behind this by drumina himself - in fact , they drew inspiration precisely there and the love that grew stronger precisely in these sweet nights... before his death he wrote

a will that he would like to be buried in the crimea, this is where adulthood begins the life of yulia drunina, and the opportunity arises to know yourself, to say who you are, to start driving a car, which is also at that time, but this is driving. well, firstly, women driving will create independence, it was impossible to buy a car in those days, these were some special postcards that were not given to everyone, only those of high flight, high rank, it was very expensive, that is, today there was such an opportunity , because it is clear that alexey kapler left, at least there was a place to live, something to drive, the world is starting to change, the country begins to change, well, by that time she is already an honored person, she already has several... poems that everyone remembers, several collections of poems, there is

a poem that she remembers, probably everyone remembers, i only saw hand-to-hand combat once , i cry a thousand times in a dream, whoever says that it’s not scary in war knows nothing about war, in general, in my opinion, everyone remembers this verse, that is, she didn’t have such literary merits after all by that time, and even kapler, he one of the telegrams was dedicated to her, he read her books, she was away, he read her collection of poems, wrote that it was dear, i admired her, and so on, that is, he also admired her gift not only as a woman, but also her literary self, i would say, maybe something else. there is no way to the poetess’s heart except to admire her poems, probably, well, with

a backbone like yulia drunina’s, it seems to me that it was possible to survive these times, she was not yet old, she was not seventy, that’s what happened, i’m interested , she went to the white house, she stood in the front row, she didn't want a new change, she didn't want it. she is what she was - it’s fake, it’s all wrong, the principles and rules of that old

life, in general, need to be washed away from this earth, now we will build a new life, she wanted to defend that country with those interests, with those principles that she carried in heart and that generation all her life, she was going to protect them, she didn’t know that everything would be turned upside down, and so she was with great enthusiasm, but her first time. she didn’t understand what was shining, what was looming, uh-huh, where should she go, what should she do, who should we sing about, what should we write about, who should we write for? well, again, the relationship with my daughter was not strong, yes, that is , many people still go to take care of the family at this age, about their children, and so on, a woman is a woman, that’s when a woman is a woman, she

turns on the program, i have to survive and my offspring must survive, and no matter the war - this is perestroika. marina, a star of the russian sky, and then in the thundering trench, when the earth was burning, i did not grow, not knowing then that i was rising here , i knew that a tight noose was pulled around my dark neck, i didn’t know that a star from the russian sky, burned out terribly and strangely, would rise out of the fog again forever, this is marina

tsvetaeva, yes, who committed suicide during that period, and drunina was at the front, that is, there is a poem about this, so she analyzes, that this situation with marina, then it turns out, she herself leaves along the same path, i think that the chair was knocked out from under her body when the kapler left, of course, in this she lost the meaning, i think that if kapler had been alive, then she was alive. she had no personal rear, the privateer was this rear, although i myself was a creative person, why am i leaving, yes, and why am i leaving, in my opinion , it is possible for such an imperfect creature like me to remain in this terrible, but quarrelsome, world created for businessmen with iron elbows, only with a strong rear , she means the captain here and nothing more, it

’s a shame that yulia drunina left during this period of precisely this darkness of darkness, when it was unclear what prospects were, it was unclear what. what will happen to russia, what will happen to everyone who was involved in culture at that moment, well, here it is the moment passed, she didn’t see some, i don’t know, return of a rush of blood, then to these dead organs, well, yes, 100 years old, she’s 100 years old, she would have turned, i think, already years old, today it wouldn’t be so gloomy , look, what a mockery, and fate, she learned to drive a car, many, by the way, were very...

choked by this, i would like to say at the end of the program about her love for her homeland, she dedicated a lot of poems specifically to her love for her homeland, this was something inspired for her, something truly most important in her life, i would like to read: and where does the strength suddenly come from at an hour when it is black in the soul , if i were not a daughter of russia, i would have given up my hands long ago, i would have given up my hands in... exposed nerves snaked around moscow, do you remember, barrier ditches, like funerals, wounds, ashes, memory, don’t tear my soul apart with war, only time, i don’t know, purer , sharper, to the homeland of love, only love gave people strength, in the middle of a roaring fire, if i

didn’t believe in russia, then she wouldn't believe in me. oh, what a pity, what a pity for all the people of this generations who died earlier, or later could not bear all these hardships of the post-war period and everything that happened, how sorry for the women, how sorry for the men, how sorry for the children, and how i still want to sing about the strong ones who survived, but they left the most important thing for us. faith in victory, faith in a person, faith in the future and our art, a poem that we can reread, and we get these emotions now through them. we can touch their picture of the world, thank you very much, thank you very much larisa for you called me, thank you very much for coming.

hello everyone, on the first channel of the podcast everyone wants to fly, and i am the host leonid yakubovich, 79 years old, 79 years separate us from that great forty-fifth year, 79 years ago we were given a great day. great holiday, they gave us life. let's remember today those who 79 years ago lived, fought and

worked in the sky, about girls, aviators, about those same glorious girls about whom songs are written and about whom a huge number of stories, hangings, and poems have been written. in the ranks of the air force, the workers' peasant red army, in 1941 , three women's air regiments were created at once; nothing like this has ever happened in the world practice of the air force, and i think it will never happen again. the idea of ​​​​creating these female aviation units belonged to marina roskova, this is one of the members of the same female crew that traveled all the way to the far east. she wrote a letter addressed to stalin.

the combat history of this regiment began, which means in the forty-second year in the city of morozovsk, this is this, i’ll tell you now, this is the roskov region, ended on may 9, 1945

in the city of swin münde in germany, this is the path the regiment went through. the combat path of the 587th bomber regiment began on december 1 , 1942, near stalingrad, 890 days of combat activity. uh, volga, north caucasus, kuban, orsha, smolensk, vitebsk, baltic states and, finally, on may 9 , 1945 in east prussia they completed the work. 587th regiment, this regiment was personally commanded by marina roskova. one caveat must be made here: unlike women - who worked on dive bombers and who worked on light... airplanes, well , light aviation, night bomber formations, fighter pilots, i must say honestly, were not trusted, well, for many

different reasons, firstly, overload, and secondly, psychophysics is not the same, i must say that this certainly had an effect, well, for example , i can say that the regiment commander tamara kazarinova, by order of the deputy people's commissar of defense, general gromadin, was removed from his post and... major gridnev was appointed in his place, the regiment itself ceased to be purely female at the age of forty the second year, however, several women, several young girls, girls showed an iron character, i must say, honestly, and achieved their goal, in the fall of the forty-second year a group was formed consisting of the best female pilots of the regiment, who were transferred to stalingrad, here you need to remember ..

aircraft, i assure you, this is not at all easy, ekaterina budanova has six, according to various sources , eight aircraft, and finally, klavdiya blinov, either three or five, this is the result of the best fighter pilots who fought in the sky, the 586th fighter regiment, a large one. part carried out combat work in air defense, during the war years a total of 38 or about 40 were shot down... it is believed that the flight personnel of the female 586th fighter aviation regiment carried out some incredible number during the war, something like 4,420 approximately combat sorties, it is necessary to say that the 588th regiment

was relegated to the 46th guards. the 588th night light bomber regiment existed until the forty-third year, and then for merit, for military merit, it was renamed the forty-sixth guards night bomber regiment, well, here it follows, means to become a son, the fact is that the regiment, which, as i said, was formed in october 40. of the first year, fought on planes that were called two. in general , this airplane was originally called u2, a training airplane; in my opinion, since 1936, it existed in general in aviation and was only suitable for educational purposes. here he is in front of you, he is now in a winter formation, but he is on skis, this is a biplane, the name of the regiment is officially 588.

night flight bomber regiment, night flight bomber regiment, unofficial rank of dunkin regiment, because it was commanded by such a bershatskaya, her name was evdaki davidna, she had quite a decent flying experience, 10 years before the war she flew in flying clubs, she was an instructor, she became the commander of this very regiment, hence her own name dunkin regiment, i i flew on it, i flew on it on this airplane, probably already... i talked about this once, an amazing airplane, simply amazing, stayed in the air, no matter what, there were a lot of cases when it was completely rotten through and through, it finally reached home. there is one feature, here in front of you is this plane made of metal parts and iron parts, the engine, struts, landing gear, braces, and yes, in fact, that’s all, everything else is wooden, covered with percale, finished

with a special solution, this plane, as they said, can be knock it down with a stick, here there is one feature, i repeat, he stayed in the air amazingly, magnificently, it was very easy to control, but from the point of view of a man, probably a pilot, because the trees that went along the board to the end, here they stretch along the side in order to so that the rudder blade turns and these planes work. at the end of the wings, well, how can i say, this is such, such a manly effort, you had to press on the pedal so that the rudder blade turns at the back, the handle is held quite easily, but what is the secret of combat work, now i’ll tell you what the difficulties are and what is the secret, it means that the airplane has a 100 horsepower engine, almost inaudible in the air, the combat use of this aircraft was

quite curious. so what did they do? they approached the target, climbed to an altitude of 400 m, turned off the engine, and planned down completely silently, and somewhere at a low altitude they began to drop bombs, which means that it was completely impossible to shoot down this plane, because the air defense cannon, well, any cannon that is there, say, an aviation cannon, its fuse worked at an altitude of about 250 -300 m and above, and they worked at extremely low altitudes, 50 m and below. it was impossible to shoot it down, but it was very difficult in any case, and for a very long time the germans panicked from the operation of these aircraft, when the germans more or less adapted, then a different approach scheme was invented, a risky scheme, very risky, there were two sides, the first side passed directly over the target, causing fire from everything possible, batteries, searchlights, the entire searchlight group

worked for this plane. he left, dragging behind him all this, all this arava, which hit him with anything, including, by the way, everything that was personal, personal weapons were used, it could be shot down. from anything, from a rifle, from machine guns, well, on occasion from a pistol, that is, the first side took all of itself, all the nightmare that it could happened in the air, left, at that time the second plane approached from behind and calmly dropped bombs, there were no parachutes, the girls refused to take parachutes with them, instead of parachutes they took a bomb load with them, what can i say, the airfield was usually located somewhere. .. 150-120 km from the front line, the jump airfield itself was 25 m away, that is, in the dark, from the airfield of the base airfield the sides moved to the jump airfield and began working

from here, i want to talk about this work in a little more detail, i, maybe, i talked about this once, we were making a film about night witches, about these night pilots, i flew on this plane for several... days and at night too, so i can tell you that despite all the passing circumstances, every single one, i i affirm this, i am ready to affirm this everywhere, everyone who worked on this bomber during the great patriotic war, all of them are heroes of the soviet union, just imagine the night.

all control is rear on the right shoulder or on the left shoulder, that is, you need to right or you need to turn to the left, you went down on your head on the combat course and so on, try it, i also talked about this once, the speed of the plane is 120 km/h, try opening the window while driving in the car and sticking your hand out, in the summer, now let's imagine that the same thing happens in winter -25. 27 120 km/h plus the oncoming flow from the propeller, even wrapped in a headset, plus glasses, the face is completely frozen, we still have to work, 25-30 km from the front line we had to take off,

get there, usually they walked in pairs, sometimes one at a time, but usually they walked in pairs, dropped bomb carrier, returned back, during the night they made about 6-8-10 sorties in the summer. night and approximately 12-13-14 maximum, by the way, a maximum of 22 combat sorties per night, fatigue reached such an extent that the girls, as soon as it became light, combat work stopped, they were taken out of the cockpit in their arms, because they fell asleep on the move, breaks between departures, takeoff and landing, takeoff and landing, this little break is 5-8 minutes, which means only time to take a sip of hot tea or jump out to pee, by the way, and too, this is good about men, and for women 5-8 minutes round trip by shuttle, hard work, very hard, great courage, simply incredible, every evening i left the office with a large case full of files that i

took out from original archival documents , i did this regularly, year after year, he is called a brilliant agent of soviet intelligence, many reports are reported by kimofi.

i can’t say, it’s a secret for now, i can’t even tell you, so, there’s a podcast in the sky, everyone wants to fly, i’m the host, leonid yakubovich, we are talking about the pilots of the famous 588, later the forty-sixth guards air regiment. this means that when they started working, they had 20 airplanes in the regiment, two of these, they finished their work, there were already 45, they worked non-stop all this time and accomplished about twenty, twenty, now i don’t remember , 600 or 700,000 sorties, dropped 3,000 during this time.

saw seagulls,

and decided that the seagulls would call them, not far away , as legend says, they stood on the shore, from this, this is how the street goes, here stands a museum, here is a quiet road fork... a cemetery where these very girls who fought are buried. there was one wonderful story, once everyone thought that maybe this would be the basis of some good feature film, just heart-tugging, there is the grave of one girl, during the kerch operation, when our sailors landed ashore in the fall, they flew there. they dropped off ammunition,

they dropped off warm clothes, well, everything that was necessary, they dropped off including all sorts of notes to support the two fighters who held the defense on the coastline, here is one of them, just on a whim, i don’t know for what reason, she flew there and dropped notes, without an address, she just wrote that a dear comrade fighter there or something like that, such sweet notes that can... by the way, a young woman to a sailor who is holding the defense below at this time, also by chance, probably these notes somehow got to one person, then they began to pass them on to him, he collected and collected these notes, when the operation was over, when the landing finally went well, he decided to meet this pilot, well, there was something in his soul, and he came to this town and how... when he was traveling on an on-board aircraft to meet her, there was

a difference of one and a half, two, three hours, this was precisely the difference that had been affecting them since the moment of their meeting, because it was on this day, at this hour that she was shot down, in fact, when he arrived, they took him and took him to this very monument, for the first time he saw the photograph only on the marble , such a poignant story, there were probably a lot of them during the war, but i... it struck me so much, it’s just incredible, somehow suddenly everything coincided, and this blue sky, and seagulls over the sea, and these memories, and this road along which completely simple cars drove and some pioneers walked, there was once a runway, and this cemetery is quiet, almost overgrown, it’s worth remembering those who didn’t make it to victory day, you know, this is probably this... it’s scary to watch your friend like

that in front of you in the sky, burning alive on a plane, and you you don’t have the opportunity to help or do anything at all, i repeat, it was quite difficult to shoot down an airplane, i must say that by this time, well, by this time it was already difficult for me to pronounce these words, but this was probably so, in any case , many people claim that the habit was starting to work out, this is not the case the fact that it was difficult to bring them down, just the euphoria from victory, from every time a job was done, a difficult job, a dangerous one.

it was a hard day, a very hard day, they started working at night, in general the germans didn’t fly at night, and ours didn’t always fly at night, but the germans didn’t particularly like the night, well, so 1 on august 1943 , four planes were lost overnight, the germans, i repeat, dispatched several night fighters, ours didn’t expect this, for the girls it was absolutely complete... and the main thing that also influenced that on that night when they took off, the anti-aircraft guns were silent, neither the anti-aircraft guns nor the searchlights were working, nothing was working, there was a feeling that they had either relocated or stopped paying attention to it altogether, and the german night fighters shot down four

of our planes, it was a terrible night, this perhaps there was a night when they lost, they lost the most, there were more of them... there were no nights, then they got used to it, so what is the u2 airplane, a training airplane, a polikarpov design, which was later named after me he said two at a time. so, here are some technical characteristics of this aircraft, so that you understand, the crew is one person, in combat use two people, a pilot and a navigator, the plane is small, 8 m, something like 8.2 ten meters depending on the modification, but the wingspan you i'm interested in somewhere around 11.5 m, height 3 m, empty weight 640 kg, payload 255 kg, depending on modification, maximum take-off weight 890

kg, also depending on modification, cruising speed from 120 to 150 e. also depending on the modification, the maximum flight range is 400 km, the flight altitude is 4,000 m, then it’s simple, since there were no oxygen masks, not a single pilot could stand it, the engine power was 100 horsepower, he took up to 130 liters of fuel on board, depending on the modification, this is a toy story, this is a light night bomber, in the development of which included bombs... holders under the lower wing for transporting bombs weighing 50 and 100 kg, sometimes 110 or 220. in theory, in combat use the aircraft was armed with cabinets, these are machine guns, or a course machine gun and da in the observer's cockpit.

this is approximately a maxim machine gun in aviation version. well, i must say that the process of creating these u2s began in the twenty-third year, as i probably already did. he said that somewhere in june of '27, test pilot mikhail gromov took it into the air for the first time, i must say, he was in perfect i was delighted with this plane, it was easy to control, easily held the air and even with the engine turned off it was easy to glide quite long distances, on the u2 e modification of the 2nd air force of the armed forces, it was already a 1937 model , on the left side of the body. a synchronized machine gun pv1, an aviation version of the maxim, is installed. in the rear cockpit there is a da dekterev machine gun, an aviation machine gun on a turret. and under the body there were also bomb racks for small aerial bombs. in principle, in the drawings, in any case , a sight was mounted on the right side of the aircraft, an ap-2 aviation sight

and the visir, which was installed there, was called nb5. for aiming, there was a slot in the lower right wing. so small, 70 by 300 mm, that you could see through it where to actually drop the bombs, approximately 600 copies of these training aircraft were made before the war, many have one discrepancy, i said what the y2 was expressed by, according to some data that there are published in the press, it was stated that the machine guns were installed on the 2 on these planes only... i installed the machine gun, the plane suddenly went into the rear, the navigator sitting behind him, fired at ground targets, at searchlights, well

, at everything that was shining, by the way, one day this machine gun was useful in order to, well, if not shoot down, then at least scare a german pilot, one day this same f2 plane found itself over near a german airfield, where german planes were parked at the very moment when a german junkers was landing. he stood in a circle, the german worked according to the approach pattern, a small plane stood in a circle in front of him, when he began to come in, he shot at him with a machine gun, scared the german to death, he left the airfield somewhere to an alternate place, here again there are amazing meanings, of course, in the drawings what i said was there, there was aviation precision, and there were machine guns , in fact, when these 20 planes.

from this aircraft, firstly, it was extremely simple and cheap to produce, uh, as well as very cheap to operate, easy to install, easy

to repair, which made it, of course, very, very profitable for production for the industry of that time, in addition to everything else, it was very cheap, simple technology and so on, secondly, the plane was very easy to fly and even an inexperienced pilot, i can testify to this, could easily control it, well, the pedals were somewhat heavy, but in principle, it holds the air very well, remarkably in any weather, by the way, as for taking off from any site, in winter and summer, this is more or less explainable, there was an option, we showed you in a winter version, a modification on skis, but that's what concerns the transition period, spring and autumn, so... great difficulties begin and for the fact that i tried this, we all tried this when we were filming a film, in order to take off, mud, abyss,

wheels get stuck, no it was necessary, and the girls did it, to throw shields, well, what do you mean shields, boards, somewhere, by the way, you had to take them, then it’s one thing to take off, the second thing is to come and sit down, but as easy as it is to understand, you can’t lay out the boards widely, that means it’s a narrow, well, well, path, not a path, at least quite narrow track. it is quite difficult to get into it at night without illumination; among other things, the po-2 had a low speed, so it easily worked at heights, without fear of being shot down. the fact is that airplanes like foki-wulfs and mesterschmitts have a speed at which they could fly at the minimum, well, the stall speed is approximately the speed. the planes operate in twos at about 100-120 km/h. at this speed, any german fighter would go into a tailspin.