and we received many applications, and the guys , directors and playwrights, selected the most interesting ones, we discussed these applications with them, and the guys went there to these heroes, spent days with them, lived with them, talked with them, playwrights and directors, studied their life , photographers took pictures of these people, and their lives, and their places of work, the director then takes an actor based on the written play, we have wonderful actors who will...

it’s not right in your soul, you know, children are how they are formed through mimisis, through imitation, art is always a mimetic thing, an imitative thing, for example, the art of theater, we imitate, and what we imitate, we imitate what we like and what interests us, and we find what resonates in...

the transformation of documentary theater in our country, this is a project that we are also implementing thanks to the cultural initiatives fund. on the air of the creative industry podcast, our guest today is the director, artistic director of the malaya bronnaya theater, konstantin bogomolov. let's continue, this word, imitation, it, well, comes from what i i heard your interviews, it...

it actually seems to me that this is a rather unique property of russian consciousness, it is so in a cultural sense, imperial in a high sense, it conquers space, in which cultural space, in what sense, it considers everything the best in world culture is its own, russian consciousness, it wants to include all the best in world culture within itself.

published a lot, supported national cultures a lot, gave alphabets and writing to small nations that did not have them, it was generally a separate a gigantic program in the twenties and thirties, thanks to which small nations inhabiting russia and

the soviet union received written alphabets. in this regard, i believe that russia is a country that has. incredible friendliness, in this love, in this curiosity, in this ability to make your own the best that other peoples create, to take it into yourself, to become infected with it, this is also

an essential part of that very cultural code, the russian cultural code, and this is our enormous strength , this is so... german culture was separated from the political building the political madness of the ideological madness of the german, and continued to be loved, it was impossible to imagine the abolition of goethe

as a german author in russian culture, impossible, this is absurd, this. you know, some property, very significant, a property of the intellect, soul, consciousness and heart, but since it was you who formulated some things very precisely in your manifesto and even predicted something, in general, in advance, i can’t help but ask about the times we live in now, this is how to approach it correctly relate to this time, to what extent does it carry all these changes, let’s say globally?

i believe that the changes that are taking place in our country are for the better, definitely. i believe that this time provides new, new opportunities. i believe that these changes are overdue, and therefore i personally always urge those around me not only not to be afraid, but to understand that this is an inevitable historical process, that it has its own. ism and its own beauty, that it has meaning, that it has meaningfulness, that it opens up new horizons, and that it a great cleansing that benefits our country, and i think ultimately

the whole world, but again it is up to us to be firm, strong and confident. in our country in our position and in our strength, then we will be able to transform the world around us, and for those who are somehow afraid? it means that these changes should calm down, calm down, and listen to decide, that ’s all, it seems to me, this is the only recipe, i could be wrong, but there is an impression from the outside that this is what you need, this is exactly what time is very somehow comfortable, well, that is, you somehow feel like a fish in water in it somehow, i feel comfortable,

specific, let’s say, this cancel culture, the culture of bullying for some non-standard opinion, she put a lot of pressure, yes, i feel comfortable because i say what i think, because i feel free, because i feel that what is happening is right and leads to some very correct changes, and i think it's some kind of cleansing, big cleansing a crisis.

there is no need to be afraid, we need to move from

witnesses to participants in these changes, this is really so, move on, witnesses, participants, everything is fine, dear friends, our guest is actor, director, publicist, konstantin bogomolov, it was wildly interesting with you, such holistic, i just met you for the first time, i really... it’s a pleasure, thank you very much, thank you, thank you, dear friends, you can watch all episodes of the creative industry lab podcast on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru.

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beautiful, everything is for us, i know, that day will come, i know, a bright hour will come, when the world smiles and becomes beautiful, everything is for us, and the day will scatter away, your smile, it is like the sun blowing out , meets me, let the light be pure, it is like a dream, let the sun awaken tenderness, let the rain be known as passion,

change of sulfur. her, i know, that day will come, i know, a bright hour will come, when the world will smile and become beautiful, everything for us, i know, that day will come, i know, a bright hour will come, when the world will smile and become beautiful, everything for us.

that day, i know, a bright hour will come, when the world will smile, and everything will become beautiful for us, i know, that day will come, i know, a bright hour will come, when the world will smile, and everything will become beautiful for us, tsyulyu.

hello, this is a podcast 20 years later, and you are the host konstantin mikhailov, my guest today rock group lead fog, hello guys, great, hello, their hit shot powerfully in the mid-nineties, early nineties in the middle, in the middle, in the late nineties in the late nineties, i know, this hit is still playing on many radio stations right now even gets into the charts, and because of this, they put the team together again because. well, the request went back, so, together with the guys with grisha and sasha, we restored the lead, you have such a reunion, the leader, founder, lyricist, author of music, author of everything, was visiting me, in general, the author of lead fog, yes, everything is correct, well, now the co-authors of new songs and new arrangements are grisha and sasha

lapinkov, yes grisha, sasha, hello, hello, you are twins, yes, as i understand it, you can tell them apart by their beards, as i understand it, i generally distinguish them, we have known each other for 100 years, so we have known each other since 2000, but listen, i can’t help but ask a question that you have already practically answered, what is happening now? well, just now there was some kind of resonance and interest again, i look at downloads and auditions on the internet some crazy hundreds of thousands of all sorts of figures millions so it became like... the group became in demand, why don’t you re-upload the clips in good quality, because 480 resolution is the maximum, you know, i don’t have anything, i, well, yes, i didn’t save anything, i thought that i was done with music forever, and to be honest, i don’t even remember where in what warehouse i kept all my outputs, all the sources, then the brothers appeared, shook dima, and what were you doing

during this period when we say from the end the nineties to this day, when well, the 2000s? i was involved in organizing events related to all sorts of political elections, i prepared the field, that is, it was called a social program then, that is, i prepared people for the arrival of agitators, listen, how it all began, bone, as usual, then in moscow in all institutions, i i studied at the moscow automobile and road transport institute, and we did all this there in the house of culture of the automobile and road transport institute, but most likely we organized and rehearsed there, and then moved and rehearsed at sokol in dkma. it was a cult place then, there was a very popular disco there, and minaev, yes, well , there was a lot of interesting things there, and almost a lot of famous groups were already rehearsing there, there were djs, discos, we there... performed our live concerts in disco time, horror, how everything was mixed up, there were slow dances, white, yes, we invited gentlemen, white dance, but

there were slow dances, can you imagine, then it was normal in the middle of a dance set to have a set of slow dances, cool, when you decided that you should write music, and that first the text or or music, music, music, first, yes, this is the problem of our team, that i write music first, especially cheerful, yes, cheerful, positive, i know , this is actually where i wrote the song, i know that day will come, no, i was in love, i

was playing on an out-of-tune piano in dec. my, behind the disco, and i came up with, i immediately came up with this prep, but i think that there is no harmony there then, and the upset of heaven, that's it, now you're split, that's it, well, you once came out of it beautifully situations, you just took byron's text. well, yes, but it’s thanks, thanks to my mother, she read me poetry when i was sick, we had it in translation, yes, in the translation of marshak’s parsnip, okay, they didn’t read me znayka on the moon, they didn’t read me znayka on the moon either , but somehow my mother, i felt very bad, she took it and started reading byron’s poems to me, and i liked it so much, it sank into my soul so much that i remembered about it when i had already started to come up with music and look for some lyrics, the best lyrics to this music are byron himself. yes, i couldn’t come up with it myself, you know, but once i tried it and the rhythm suited, and just like that, once everything fell into place, it turned out to be a song if, let’s take it now

and sing it, let’s sing it, let’s sing it. darling, now alone, in the hour of the night, he will return with the same strength and it is a matter of

my pride, keep your holy image in your soul, among forgetful friends, to be faithful to you as before. like once upon a time, forgive me, sometimes among strangers, laughing carefree , i am in the bustle of empty speeches, as if... i forget you, but don’t believe my words, we promise you a threat, i don’t want to give it

to fools, not even your sigh, not even your glance, i’m so tired of finding and losing you, among the meaninglessness of the years, yes, yes, i saw. there is fire where there is no fire, and where there is only dawn, only you alone, you don’t give, quickly goodness, only for guilt, i so want, so i want to bring you back forever,

i’m so tired of finding and losing you, among the nonsense and years, yes, yes, i saw fire, where there is no fire, and where it burns , you alone don’t let it dawn, it will burn away, leaving bitter wine, i’m so tired, so tired. believe

you, i want to return myself to you, i want to return you to myself, as i once did, so once upon a time. once upon a time, like once upon a time, this is a podcast 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guests are svintsova

and tuman, wow! how did the name come about? oh, it was also a disaster, because it was my student years after even, because it seems like a group, a group, a group, a group, and what a group, there is no name, so we came up with a huge list of 100 different names, then there were fashionable names consisting of two words, but here i am poked, poked, poked, poked, when it all hit me, i poked with my finger and it turned out to be a leaden fog, and it seemed to me very british, very byrene-like, a leaden fog. and again byron again, of course, well , at the beginning of his career there was a tour in the uk, yes there was, there was such an adventure, a fog of lead, of course, such a cold romance, i heard something that in itself , but this is not an adventure, this is actually at the end of the soviet union there was a cultural exchange, the ninety-first, and some people from the bbc came here, only they belonged to irish bbc, uh-huh, they chose, they chose three groups, one played guitar music,

lead fog, one was jazz, one was such a folk-rock band in white clothes, they performed in chain mail wearing real metal helmets, cool, well, and we got, got for the first time in this way in england, and there we got hooked further, met different producers, musicians, different people, played a lot of quite concerts, in russian, please note, we sang sorry, and they sang along with the brazilians, but it didn't matter because that they sang along, you know, bones, this is, we are in business, this is... magic, well , too, i’m sorry, i’m sorry, i was bullied, of course, listen, about the producer, you’re doing everything yourself, as far as i remember, you came on the radio, here i am, i remember you and alyonka pugacheva, here you are together all the time, we had her like that, we had a couple, we ran, she was also involved in the administration of the team, but in this song i know, there was a real chic at the very end there she is there vap couples, well, they sang on they had four girls, she not only

one was singing, and there were more girls there. listen, how about you yourself, you were on all the radio stations, it turns out, bone, it’s just a magic torch in one place, you know, a lot of youthful enthusiasm, confidence in victory, everything is wonderful, horror, but now i’m scared myself , what miracles happened in general, what miracles, that’s how you just opened the door with your foot, i just don’t understand how it all happened. it turned out that they often asked me, i don’t understand, i’m a sucker, there was nothing at all, no limits to perfection, you see, we came up with some crazy ideas, listen, on may 9th at the titanic dance club we played a live concert with djs who swinily just caught the beats for us, played to us, danced to the beats, no, they just presented the beats, chaos and parties arranged, you know, but the time was really all iron jealousy.

collapsed, and there is so much hope ahead, so much ahead of this light at the end of the tunnel, and this is what the song is about, i know, so that day will come, this is exactly what it is about, one hundred percent positive, it is purely sincere. written his first and last name dima nesterov, like dumas hiktipob, yes he said, you’re a very strange russian, i say, why are you strange, and i wrote him my address, where to send it, he reads it, says, well, that’s how it goes , i ’m like you’re all dima, but i’m writing, you’re writing dumas

hiktipop, that is, ivanov would have been an ubakhop, you know, well, my friends then all called him khikhti-pop, you know, dj khikhtipop, dima hiktipop, dumas hiktipop, i remember you also had a song like that for the dance a little bit, that is. she's so right under it love is gone, this is what we did, we made a dance version of this song, with the djs mayovsky, and they recorded beats for us and we made a dance treatment on these beats, i remember that you called your style a new guitar style - well we called new guitar music new guitar music, yes, exactly, that is, i remember at that time it was really very, very fresh and cool. we had to stand out somehow, i was young, we had to organize our own clearing, there was rock, there was pop, but there was no guitar music, well, consider this it turned out to be a mess, but a mess, yes, but then they called it britpop, here you are, like a person

who is always looking a little into the future, what’s next, so we will continue, and we will wait until the young people grow up again, well, the same thing or in some direction there, well, we ’re just now working on new material , writing new material, in what style will it be like here? well, i think that this is not even predictable yet, but absolutely, no, it will definitely be a leaden fog, but it’s just that already in the twentieth century, for example, well, i’m already saying that, well in any case, it will be a fog of lead, well , you don’t want to add more electronics there, there’s also a stage for djs, they tried, tried, tried, not only did they try to introduce talented djs and producers, but they still take the music firmware from the musician . top, we need to play everything live, if we can do it, we need to play live, but we’re not afraid of experiments, we’re looking for, even if we have a new song, moscow, as long as it’s called that, yeah, here it is, let’s see, you’ll just hear it, exactly, it will be such

a leaden fog, the twenty-fourth year, in the spring, the girls will all be what i dreamed of 20 years ago, oh, it’s hard to say, i don’t know what the guys dreamed of, i just lived and enjoyed the fact that we could do something. and write music and play in clubs, it was a thrill, well , that is, there were no stadium ambitions, there were some kind of world tours? no, i didn’t have that, although you know, as i say, i had no ambitions, you can’t imagine, i once came to london to sign an album in russian, i tried to get along with them and sign a contract with them, so you say ambitions, is it ambitions or not ambitions, this is probably a little crazy, this is this madness, but the fact remains a fact, you don’t have such a good nut, like that, as i understand it, and opened the doors for you to... well, i was sure, i i did what i was sure, i was wondering whether they were waiting for me or not, yes that’s for sure. about the clips, did you take part in the development of the scripts, you know, no, it was all given to the guys, because i really trusted all the professionals and

they did everything very well, they are generally mega-talented guys and life showed it, they are now the leading director of cameramen, listen, but you don’t want to occupy your hands on stage with anything when you sing, because here you are without an instrument. i always had it before, but i beat my leg so hard, i walked around with bruises, seriously, surgeons once simply told me, you will end badly, hematomas, hematomas are permanent, i even had jeans with leather linings on the inside, so that - don’t twist your leg at all, i stopped, we even sent him to the tambourine department, but the guys say: advanced training, they professionals, you know, bubin didn’t bring it, well, i can’t anymore, allergies, the bruise forms on its own, you know, bubnophobia, i know that you are now helping young musicians, mentoring, in some form, you have

something like a producer center, or you, the guys and i are there, and we all try at least somehow, if we see talented people, they don’t particularly shine financially, we try to help them with something else. or some kind of product, and not just a reflection on the topic, well, they listen to you or if it’s such a thing in general, then they don’t care floating through their lives, but it’s still absorbed, i don’t expect gratitude, i smell like a production center, you don’t want to, well, let’s see, you know, we ’re working on it now, we’re thinking about this topic, but it’s hard work, thankless work, you’re a musician later you can’t tie it to a battery, you can’t force it, contracts don’t work, it can only be charity, otherwise now the world in general is just... turned out to be unproduced or something? well, this is terrible,

because in fact everything is produced, in fact, as soon as the artist begins to appear somewhere his songs explode, he forms a circle of people who try to help him, and want to make money, well, they want to make money, they start to help him, yes, they start to help him anyway, to say that the person posted something on the internet, became popular and after that he does it all alone, it’s not true, well listen, well, nalich got so infected with his guitars, he in general. he did everything himself, well, yes, but where did he go then, that normally everything exists perfectly, he writes music for cinema, for performances, so he writes music for cinema, you know, but with the stage he did, after all, yes, you also collaborated with cinema, you wrote and the song, i know, was included in the cinema, yes, but with us it was rather different, we just had our songs included in soundtracks, but what do you plan? - i don’t know about writing for cinema next, you know, i’m still like this, i have the format that i’m doing, guys, yes, they manage to write everything for cinema. and for performances and for everything, but i’m still like that, give me a bend with

a band, so forward, you have a more club format, i like it, although you know we played in the big ones, in the olympic, there was screaming at 15.00, i know why that day, in luzhniki 50,000 and nothing, but it’s some kind of different atmosphere, i like clubs, i personally, grisha sasha, and you are music for movies you write, well, they don’t write anything anymore, yes, yes, yes. yes, we used to do both, now we’re just relaxing, i just want to be musicians, and now the time has come that some kind of freedom has appeared, in a word, just self-sufficient, yes, self-sufficient people, and i just want to do music and play with dima and nester, we really like it, by the way, we have some kind of chemistry between each other, we always have some kind of creative symbiosis, and we always, we do it very easily, you know, so we start fattening, we we do it very easily, no one ever argues, no one ever vies. not anything at all, just like this, and

we have completely different points of view, we look from different sides, but in the same direction, it’s very interesting, just a dream, and don’t even talk about it, i’m afraid of spilling the soup, no, we i like the truth i like doing this, because at least everything is real here, no one is in a hurry or thinking about commerce, what is needed tomorrow, on this radio there is no outrage about this, we probably don’t think about the format at all, we’re just honestly for real and this is how you have to create. group lead fog, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, how do you like to spend your free time ? this is a podcast 20 years later, we are talking with time, this is what you like to do most besides creativity or creativity. oh, i don’t know, i’m creative, yes, i do

some other musical projects, related to the performance, there are other people doing something, that is, i like to organize some festivals, do something else like that, yeah, i like it, that is, the organizer, well, yes, i i have such a streak, and i love it, for everything to move around, and you guys, how do you spend your free time, what do you like? we practically don’t have our own, let’s just say, yes, and if it appears, then we are also in a hurry. like, probably, dima, we help, teach vocals, and the fact is that we live in the region, in the region there are, so to speak, a lot of young talents, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, yes, and someone needs to do this, it’s just time, probably, just at least, well, i’m saying this, it turns out that we are just doing charity work, that you can’t call it money, we have to pass something on to people, so we pass it on, some opportunities will appear, we’ll organize something.

luxury, luxury, no one did this, they always cut it, just a guitar, are you playing a guitar, are you just a loser playing a guitar, now, of course, it’s made up there everything is made from electronic cubes. not now, but we need to endure from beginning to end so that everything will be, dad is back, interest has returned , including from young bloggers, uncle sasha, record the drums, also the drums, even in general, it’s just always, uncle sasha, record it drums for me, please, well, how can we distinguish

drums and guitars from artificial intelligence, from the living there, we can’t tell the difference by ear, i think that the style is most likely the style, the energy. big, that is, no purpose, this cube, you know, like the strugatskys, this one a room or a ball, he hears, he fulfills a wish, something will happen kostya, i ’m telling you seriously, i want more positive things, i live happily, i have something to remember in a day, i move a lot, do a lot of things, and i want to continue to move the space in this way, some great achievements, well

, of course i want to release an album , play more concerts, travel around the country to play, i want to, well... everything will come, everything will be, and what would you guys want in 20 years , yes, in 20 years i would like to follow suit, so that everyone, all people, humanity, have their own home, a roof over their heads, health and everything, so that everyone lives by the sea, listens, listens to beautiful music, and you know what i would like, i would also like in 20 years, meet and children and talk about music, what you have done in 20 years, 20 years later, what it means for us, so that yes yes, that is, you understand, so that... i want to stand on stage in 20 years also so that the program, by the way, yes and in order to give people joy, i know that day will come, so to speak, well, the song has survived in general everything, of course, it will survive, i assure you, and it will be, it has already become a classic, and from the classics that you guys listened to when you were inspired , as i understand it, everything that existed there

, for example, in the seventies, sixties , seventies and eighties until 2000 , in general, including everything. they were just so omnipresent, it’s just that later this granche, garage music, music and so on appeared, the only thing i didn’t listen to was glam rock, unfortunately, in 2000 it seems to me that it will all be like this somehow, you know, as if summer had come, everything had melted, it became the music of one producer, yes, that is, people have learned to turn the knobs, yeah, no one is needed, a minidisk appeared, like in a restaurant, like in a restaurant, all the musicians left, there was a minidisc left, and they called the computer, something should shoot again now . it seems to me that now everything that is happening is going to the same point, again, even though they say that the ring roads there don’t lead anywhere, they do, what will it be, i want a song, for now at least make a new song somehow so that it is relevant for the modern, for me modern, for modern guys, you know, well, guitars, drums and bass guitars will definitely remain, everything that is alive

will definitely remain, i think it will remain for centuries to come, it won’t go anywhere, because it’s a classic, by the way, i personally don’t care about music no guitars needed, no drums, no... with such a lively live presentation, it’s an orchestra for me, that’s a different story, to be honest, we need to bring back the industry, when everyone lives with each other, exchanges and lives in one community, in one society , no matter that’s it, everyone will still return to the living, because people cannot live without the living, so they’re sitting, yes, because people are sitting at the table, singing to the accordion, i take it they won’t return to the accordion, but they’ve already returned, but they’ve already returned, yes, yes , let's do something under the boyanchik now at the end we'll cry, okay, that it will be the love that's gone. love never leaves the podcast 20 years later, yes it is always here and here is always the coolest musicians of the lead fog group today visiting the podcast 20 years later.