bbc, they chose, they chose three groups, one played guitar music, lead fog, one was a jazz group, one was such a folk-rock group of white clothes, they performed in chain mail wearing helmets, real metal ones, class, well, here we are got, got to england for the first time in this way, and there we got hooked further, met different producers, musicians, different people, played quite a lot of concerts, in russian, please note, we... drank sorry, and they sang along with the brazilians, but it was it doesn’t matter, because they sang along, you know, there’s something, it’s ours, we’re in business, it’s magic, it’s the same thing, i’m sorry, i’m sorry, i’m rude, of course, listen, about the producer, you’re doing everything yourself, as far as i remember , you came to the radio, here i am, i remember you and alyonka pugacheva, here you two are all the time, we have her like that, we had a couple, we ran, she was also involved in the administration of the team, yes, in this song i know, there was gorgeous right at the very end there listen and how are you all

yourself you you you were included in all the radio stations it turns out that the bone is just a magic torch in one place, you understand a lot of youthful enthusiasm, confidence in victory, everything is wonderful , horror, even now i’m scared what kind of live concert was played in the dance with djs, listen to us on may 9 at the titanic club who simply caught the pigs under us the beats played to us, the beats danced. just collapsed

and there is so much hope ahead, so much ahead of this light at the end of the tunnel, and this is what the song is about, i know, that’s why it shot like that the day, yes, exactly about this, one hundred percent positive, this is pure sincere, absolutely, we wanted to share with people, i know that day will come, it has come, yes, look, we are here, you are here, podcast, everything is fine, 20 years later we and... his name and the surname dima nesterov, like dumas khiktipob, yes, he said, you are a very strange russian, i say, why are you strange, and i wrote him my address, where to send it.

we copied the beats and we made a dance treatment on these beats. i remember that you called your style new guitar music - well , we called new guitar music, new guitar music, yes, exactly, exactly. that is, i remember, at that time it was really very, very fresh and cool, but it was still relevant we needed to stand out somehow, i was young, we had to organize our own clearing, there was rock, there was pop, and there was guitar music it wasn’t, well, consider it that way. it turned out to be

a mess and then they called it britpop, so you’re like a person who is always looking a little into the future, what’s next? so we will continue and wait until the young people grow up again, well, the same thing or in some direction there, well, we are like now since we are working on new material, we are writing, what style will it be in? i don’t know, you say what style it will be in, folk? well, i think that it’s not even predictable yet, but absolutely, no, it will definitely be a leaden fog, but just at 20’. in the third century, for example, well, yes, well, i’m already saying that, well, in any case, it will be a lead fog, well, don’t you want more electronics there, add djs there, they also tried the stage, tried it , tried it, not only talented and djs and they tried to introduce producers, but the musician’s musical firmware still takes over, we need to play everything live, if we can do it, we need to play live, but we are not afraid of experiments, we are looking for, even if we have a new song moscow. while it's

called that, yeah, here it is, let's see, just what you'll hear, just like that, it will be such a leaden fog, 24, in the spring, the girls will all be there, what did you dream about 20 years ago? oh, it’s hard to say, i don’t know what the guys dreamed about, i just lived and enjoyed the fact that we could do something, write music , play in clubs, it was a thrill, well, that is there were no stadium ambitions, there were no world tours, no, i didn’t have that, although you know, so i say, there were no ambitions, you can’t imagine, i once came to london to sign an album in russian, i told them tried to get involved and sign a contract with them, so you say ambition, is it ambition or not ambition, it’s probably... they’re waiting for me or not, yes, that’s definitely about the clips, did you take part in the development of the scripts, you know, no, that’s all was not given to

the guys, because i trusted it very much to all professionals and they did everything very well, they are generally mega-talented guys and life has shown this, they are now leading directors and cameramen. listen, but you don’t want to occupy your hands on stage with anything when you sing, because here you are, you are without an instrument, you only have a microphone, a tambourine, you usually have one, i always had one before, but i beat my leg like this, so bad, i walked around with bruises, seriously, the surgeons once simply told me, you ended badly, hematomas, permanent hematomas, i even had jeans with leather pads on the inside, so as not to somehow twist my leg at all, i stopped, we even sent him to the tambourine department. yes, the guys say, dima, it’s time for you to improve your skills, they are professionals, you know, they came and said, oh, dima, dima, it’s time for five, the sixteenth is lame, yes, and what did sydat bubin not bring, well, i can’t do it anymore , allergies, a bruise forms on its own, you know, tambourophobia, i know that you are now

helping young musicians, mentoring, in some form, you have something like a production center or or you, there are guys me and all of us. we try at least somehow, if we see talented people, they don’t particularly shine with finances or anything else, we try to help them, somehow produce, a lot, we need to help, even do arrangements, because sometimes the guys, that is, you you directly sponsor, well, i just come to the rehearsal base, sit with them, help them compose the song correctly, so that people hear some kind of product, and not just a reflection on the topic, well, are they listening to you, or then they still float through... life , but it’s still absorbed, i’m not grateful i’m waiting, i smell like a production center, you don’t want to, well, let’s see, you know, we’re working on it now, we’re thinking about this topic, but it’s hard work, thankless work, then you can’t tie a musician to a battery, you can’t force him, contracts don’t work, it can to be only a charity, otherwise now

in general the world has simply turned out to be unproduced or something, well, this is terrible, because in fact everything is produced, in fact , as soon as an artist starts to have songs somewhere, he shoots it back... he actually did everything himself, well, yes, but where did he go then, that everything exists normally, great, he writes music for films, for plays, so he writes music for films, you know? from the stage, after all, yes, you also collaborated with cinema, you wrote and the song, i know, was included in the cinema, but with us it was rather different, we just had our songs included in the soundtracks, and what are you planning to write something for cinema i don’t know anymore, you know , i still have this format, the one that i do guys, but they

manage to write everything for both cinema and performances and for everything, but i still give me a band from the band so that i like the club format more than the chamber format. some kind of chemistry happens between us , we always have some kind of creative symbiosis of some kind, and we always do it very easily , you know, we start fattening, we do it very easily, no one ever argues

, no one ever hangs around, nothing at all, just like that we have completely different points of view, we look from different sides, but in one direction it’s very interesting, it’s just a dream and don't talk at all. i’ll take it from him, it ’s probably not, we don’t think about the format at all, we just have to create honestly and truly, well, you already know, you don’t get carried away, in our time it seems to me that this is the only way it’s possible now, in the beginning you thought about it, so now i’m going to write a song, how will they take it on the radio, no, you know, i put it on the radio, but i didn’t think about it, no , never, this is a podcast 20 years later, we ’re talking with the lead group, fog, i’m the presenter konstantin mikhailov, how do you like to spend your free time, that’s what you like do most of all, besides creativity or

creativity, oh, i don’t know, i’m creative , yes, i do some other musical projects, related to the performance of something by other people, that is, i love some festivals organizing, doing something else like that, i like it, that is , an organizer, well, yes, i have such a streak, and i love it, so that everything moves around, and how do you guys spend yours? we practically don’t have our own, let’s just say, yes, and if it appears, then we’re in a hurry, just like, probably, dima, we help, we teach both vocals and guitar, the fact is that we live in the region, in the region of young talents, so to speak, there are a lot, a lot, a lot, yes, and someone needs to do this, yes, just the time has come, probably, to at least just give back what we have learned, i’m telling you, it turns out that we are just doing charity work, that you can’t call it money, but...

now there is a fashion for this kind of sound literally again a couple of years ago solo it was just luxury luxury yes always they just cut the guitar, are you playing the guitar, are you playing the guitar now , of course, it’s all made up of electronic cubes, now it’s not bad, but you have to endure it from start to finish, interest has returned , including from young bloggers. uncle sasha , record the drums as well as the drums, even in general it’s just always uncle sasha

, record the drums for me please, well, what can we distinguish from artificial intelligence , drums and guitars from the living ones there is no difference in hearing, i think the style is most likely the style of an energy drink, that is, it’s a little wrong somewhere a little bit out of tune about the living no, each musician has his own style when and if yes even three musicians if each gathered together. what do you dream about in 20 years, what is ideal? listen, it’s okay, the most important thing is that everything is fine with us and that the country is fine, i’m thinking about this, in 20 years, i want everything to be, for us to develop, move forward, we have big, then there is no goal, this cube, you know, like the strugatskys, this room or ball, he hears, he fulfills a wish, he wishes for something and it will happen. i i’m telling you seriously, i want more positive things, i live happily, i have something to remember in a day, i move a lot,

do a lot of things, and i want to continue to move the space in this way, some big achievements, and of course i want to release more albums i want to play concerts, travel around the country to play, but everything will come, everything will be, and what would you guys want in 20 years, and in 20 years, for example , i would like everyone, all people, to have a person... she will survive , i assure you, it will be so, she has already gone into the classics, definitely, but from

the classics that you listened to, you guys, when you were inspired, as i understand it, ledzelin, everything that existed there, for example, in the seventies, sixties, seventies and eighties, it is necessary until 2000 in general, including, everything, everything in general, they were just so omnipresent, it’s just that later this granche, garage music, music and so on appeared, the only thing i didn’t listen to was glam rock, unfortunately. in 2000, it seems to me, it’s all somehow as if, you know, as if summer had come, everything had melted away, the music became one producer, yes, that is, people have learned to turn the knobs, yeah, no one is needed, a mini-disc appeared like in a restaurant. it’s still going the same way again, even though they say that the ring roads don’t lead anywhere there, they lead, what will it be, i want to make a song for now, at least a new song somehow so that it is relevant for the modern, for me modern , for modern guys, you know, well

, guitars, drums and bass guitars will definitely remain, everything that is alive will definitely remain, that’s what’s left. i think it will remain for centuries to come, it’s not going anywhere it will go away, because it’s a classic, by the way, i personally don’t need music without guitars, without drums, without bass, without such a lively live presentation, it’s an orchestra to me, that’s another story, to be honest, we need to bring back the industry when everyone is friend live with a friend, exchange and live in the same community, in the same society, but still everything, still everyone will return to the living, because people cannot live without the living, so they sit, yes, because people sit at the table, singing to the accordion , to the accordion. today's guest on the podcast 20 years later.

when sadness comes to us, like black dreams, a gloomy haze begins to cloud our vision, don’t rush to argue with it, it will leave like a guest from the underground, we dream again, forever to the bottom of the soul, again a tear, filled with bitterness of losses, the sadness of unfulfilled hopeful

of the shadow of the days i have lived, i will fall... i am looking for in dreams, there is your image, only you, only you alone, but that is only a dream, the soul screams forever, the soul screams forever, ha, love is gone, we are left, sadness, love is gone, it can’t be returned, what a pity, but you wake up, open your eyes, but you wake up and the sadness will go away forever, love is gone, dreams are left, sadness is gone, love is gone, it

can’t be returned, no matter how... but you wake up, open your eyes, but you wake up and the sadness will go away forever, love is gone, love is gone.

hello, dear friends, today everything is unusual, but the most unusual thing, of course, is you, my dear viewer, you, as always, are full of surprises, and so are we today. we’ll try to be a match for you, this is a fantastic beauty, this is alice, her last name is ten, this is a person who has an interesting name,

this is rust, pozyumsky, and her full name, full name rustic, well, it’s just strange to write rustic on posters, so rust, rustic, please tell us what you have in your hands, this is the damba viola, it is the predecessor of the velancheli, but at the same time it is an instrument. technique, for this there are frets, so that you can somehow build chords, and yes, they played it with a feeler and a lot, and it was called the technique was called viola domana,

that is, finger viola, no, we will now ask about this instrument , because we are seeing it for the first time, we will also ask you what it is fence music, finally, the last thing is not meaning, how did you manage to drag such a young... lady, you know, into the middle ages, in fact, i began to play the instrument because i decided to sing baroque, in general i am a singer, i sang different music, i sing, and i studied jazz and indian music, classical, oh, then i collaborated a lot with classical musicians, but just at the junction, that is, when it is necessary...

immaculate, baroque music, from which i am leading everyone here, gaining weight and losing fur , but... there would be tears in me, laughter, light in my window, alone, as if it were a sin, because i,

it’s me, because of that in me, inevitably melting, serene, like a dream, infinitely tender, like water, infinitely alive, like fire, eternal, like our misfortune with you , like an empty palm, locked for some reason within itself, they promised clones and a parade. they punished me and took me home, they said, no one is happy to see you here, and

now i’ll bring everyone here, i’m gaining weight and losing fur, that’s why i’m here, whether it’s the sun. so that the snow melts, that’s why i am, your amulet, your invisible, whimsical white light, and the bottom of your years, and the change of roads, who is the author, this my songs, generally inspired by ancient music, is this musician? the material gives alice the opportunity to demonstrate her vocal abilities in different testituras, in different registers. it's interesting what baroque in architecture

suggests.

about the nightingale and the young man and his love , courtly means knightly, but this is more likely a court norm of behavior already by the 16th century , just a gallant attitude towards a woman , a certain well, let’s say, a set of aesthetic and some kind of philosophical views, including on love where did you get the viola before gambu she not sold anywhere sold yes you should probably order it and the master will

do it for 2 years. four, and rust infected it, yes, with this, yes, it is contagious, you see, except for rust , no one teaches this medieval instrument, yes, where did you find the tablature, where did you find the lessons? well, let’s just say, i’ve just been involved in baroque and old music in general for quite a long time, and initially i’m a violinist violist, it was in this capacity that i began to study early music, well, early

music is actually a fairly broad concept, there... and folk was included, who played on the fiddle, then i played the middle ages in the latern magicka, the ensemble was quite famous, at some point this ancient music curve led me to this instrument, for the first 3 years i studied on my own, well, because in fact it is possible, because that the instrument itself suggests, and the music suggests, but of course i lacked some purely technical knowledge from the native speaker, so to speak, and i was lucky because vittoria gehelmi came to russia, this is... a famous european violist, that’s what they call viol de gamba player, violist, but the violist, who played for many years in geradin armonica, is also not the latest in ensemble music, frankly speaking, so he and i had to play in a concert, i was very worried, because it was like would have been a recognized master of the viola, and by that time i had been playing for three or four years and we were supposed to play in the small hall of the philharmonic in st. petersburg, everything worked out, everything was fine, and moreover, the man himself turned out to be

absolutely amazing. the night captivated me with its brow, and the morning unraveled to fight evil, a shadow on my skin, like a friend hugged me, so the evening didn’t seem to recognize me right away, captivated by the night, sailed like a dashing canoe,

can’t overcome the fact that with... your turn won’t drag away everything that reigns on earth night, the fire dozed in the hall, the morning will flare up. dry fire, it’s time, it’s already bright as day, well , get up, go and drink water, and don’t feel sorry for yourself and don’t waste water, the day whispered on my skin in my ear, like a deer, it ran through the thicket, right vadapa, packs of dzikai bark for you and me. as if it didn’t happen by chance that even he, already not he at all, no longer young, the sky will dry out, the darkness will be illuminated by sunset ashes, and

the prison will become invisible, the night has captivated me with its brow, and the morning has unraveled me to fight evil. a similar day, like a friend hugged me, and here it is evening, as if we won’t admit it right away, i was captivated by the night, and... this is the anthropology podcast on the first, our guests are alisa tan and rus pazyumsky. why did viola damba captivate you, alice? well, initially i wanted to understand the style,

probably, of borok singing. and she began to play the violi, baroque music, and well, through the instrument was easier for me, it turned out that way. singing, it’s just something very extroverted for me, here you just. the chorus is not repeated, as it would be in other songs, and we also don’t immediately find where the typical structure is: chorus, verse, as they already said, chorus and bridge, there’s nothing of this, apparently a boroch song is

a monologue about languor feeling, yes, probably, but in general, in fact, song and poetic forms, respectively, they were very different in the baroque, including a verse for the chorus too... this is generally uh, probably the oldest form of poetry is rondo, that is, it is a repeating refrain and a changing episode, but at the same time in the baroque there is, for example, an aria, such a concept as an aria, which can be tricky, maybe there is no verse and chorus, but there is called dokapa, which means hat, this is the form when - the first part, the second contrasting part, a return to the first part, there are a lot of these forms, and this is rather what i'm trying to do... with songs in russian these new ones, tell me how rather, the spirit, the spirit is very definite, i don’t know how to describe it exactly in words, they don’t look at all like baroques, look, in

russian, yes, no, they resemble something, but the form is not exactly the same as if it were guessed exact correspondence, that is, this is not stylization as such, rather it’s just some kind of general feeling, i don’t know, well, not like indian music, yes, that is, it is impossible to listen to the carrier, but it was very modernized, that is, there was opera, there was completely different music , romanticism, that is, these are direct heirs, but this is a lot in all, it was very active, a vibrant cultural life, someone thinks that we need to look, maybe even...

the fire is burning, its light is calling, its heat is trembling, and the ship is sailing, the captain is silent, in its mash of bells and whistles there is a goalkeeper, the goal hasn't been scored yet, we 'll be lucky, my beloved is running. my favorite jod!

he walks along the waves, through the tall grass, i didn’t believe the dreams, but i saw the light, the fire was burning, its flame was roaring, its heat was trembling and... the ship was sailing,

where can i hear you? this is in demand today in moscow, in russia, well, in every way in this case, this is much more in demand than it was, for example, 20 years ago. in moscow, thanks to the fact that there is a department of historical music at the conservatory, this is actually the only city in russia where there is a department of early music, thanks to this there are, for example, harpsichordists, there are many good ones, there is probably no such thing anywhere else city ​​of russia, that is, in st. petersburg, there are also harpsichordists. someone who studied in germany, someone who studied with those who studied in

germany, but in any case these are rare people, who practice, and that they play the keyboard differently than the piano in general, absolutely, and well, this is due to the fact that this is not a hammer, but a piece of wood, this is due to the fact that on the harpsichord there are actually no different dynamics of the piano; everything is done with time , then in ancient music there were things that were quite formal. in the sense that the text was not perceived as a text that needed to be played exactly, there was always a share of improvisation in this, always the performer, especially the harpsichordist, because the kolasinist who plays, for example, he accompanies a solo instrument, he has a bass voice and numbers written down, that is , he doesn’t have it written down what needs to be played, it’s a chord that needs to be built from the main note, and the way he builds it, he can build it in a narrow arrangement, in the wide or the bass here, and the rest above, and these are different colors, and it depends on the performer, on how... how he feels, how he sees, how he contacts the soloist, for example, well,

in general, borok is compared to jazz too, well yes, because the people who are engaged historical scheming, they, in principle , must necessarily improvise, plus, in general, what i like about old music is that the notes, for example, the baroque text, are not an indication of where you need to put your finger there , hold it there, lead there with a sword there and hold it so long at that time, this... was literally perceived by them as graphics, like a drawing, this is, let's say, a journey of a sound object in space, when we fly up, we really seem to rise, and the interpretation option is how we rise , we can go up hard or to take off, that is, a downward movement is always a downward movement, it is a jump or a jump or a smooth movement, this is what fascinated alice most of all, and here, because this is after all a jazz singer, right? well, i wouldn't say that. and you studied ragyas, right? yeah, here you are on the tabla, this is

the art of ragya, well, it’s just that everyone who sings in india, they play the tabla, everyone who plays the tabla, they sing, you’re just universal there, in principle, yes, yes, yes, but i i haven’t seen women playing the tama, it’s a drum, i hope you are playing, of course, this is not a female instrument, the viola is also not the most female instrument, that is, it is still quite powerful, features with a bag, so on and so forth. a large model, this is a beretran, yes, such a master, lived at the turn of the 17th-18th centuries, in fact, this seven-sided model is named after his name, bertrand, yes, yes, and there was also the so-called... female bertran - this is a colechon, this another master who made smaller instruments also had seven strings, they have such a rosette, wow, it seems to me, orots, that this is a very feminine instrument, because, at least, the way you play it, the way alisa plays, it suits her very well, no, no, firstly, it’s a gentle plucking, not just an arpeggio, you know, then, well,

of course, with his voice he’s very it harmonizes, i really like how the bow adds a cantilena sound, so continuous that it harmonizes very much, no, it’s very. russian music, let’s just let it play, come on, one of our viewers may now have a date with our sounds, but this way we ’ll help him,

heaven lies on the ground, runs, sweeps, scelіt pastel, sleep, until you flog, metz, the snail is not fed, if not. and two, non-torture, one, non-torture, and two, non-torture, the hands of the trees, stretched up, asking the gods, everything is laughter, filling everything with laughter, under the snow

there is earth, under the ground there is water, under the water there is a bottom, something black to me, what -that

’s how the music sounded before it was mixed with rhythms that came from africa, through slavery in america and from the arabs. of course, today it’s difficult for us to imagine such music, but you know, it’s probably muscular memory of humanity by you re-creation is created, and indeed, look, this is the same feeling as they are. and this is an anthropology podcast on the first, our guests are alisa ten and rus pazyumsky, well, in the cinema, for example, you are invited to work, there are no offers to work in the cinema...