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tv   PODKAST  1TV  May 24, 2024 12:10am-1:01am MSK

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“hello, first of all, as a writer, and as a person, i am always interested in the story of growing up, the story of how a person fulfills the fate that he is destined to live, as far as i know, you were born far from moscow, far from st. petersburg, from leningrad, on the border of asia and europe, then it so happened that you came to conquer the capital, if i understand correctly, you came to leningrad, or i’m wrong, look,
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in my imagination i dreamed of how i would transport my mother to my place. there will be a whole room of me in a communal apartment, and how i’ll just divide the room in half with some kind of closet like that, on one side she will live, on the other i, i had such dreams, i didn’t dream of princes, or marriage, or children, they began to appear late for me, i didn’t dream of this, i dreamed of becoming an artist, it’s true, then all the girls gathered artists, changed there, you have two gurchenkos,
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two gurchenkos, i exchange one there for nona murdyakova, well, that’s what happened, and then everything was like everyone else, why leningrad, that’s what interests me, you know, i did to katinyartsev, to yuri vasilyevich in pike, and i went through all the rounds, and the practice was such that they entered everywhere at once in ovgiko, in shchepkinsko, because well, there was nothing to compare with, this is when now they dream of studying exclusively at the shchukin school or in vgik. there was no place where you would go, it’s called, and i, having gone through the rounds with katin yartsev, went to leningrad, and i also went through the rounds with vladimirovich petrov, with whom i later studied, with agamerzyan, to which vladimirovich told me, you’ll run there and here, you won't go there, because i i’ll try, i said, okay, okay, i’ll be with you, but still i understood that i was in general education in shchukinsky and i needed to fly, i was of little intelligence and concentration,
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attentiveness girl, i remember that i went before the train to pancake shop, i had as much as 25 rubles, i gave this money, took a pancake, as i remember now, i took the iron change and went to the station, it turned out that i had no money, because i didn’t take 24 rubles, and i think, oh that's right, i forgot them, in that same cafe, i'm coming back, i had time, i go up to the cashier, i say, hello, i was with you right somewhere just recently, i even gave you 25 rubles. so you say, you gave me some change, but didn’t give me rubles, well, here i am, i’m waiting, she looked at me and said: get out of here, i say, i swear to you, i swear to you, so i took a pancake from you and you gave me 70 kopecks there, but you didn’t give me 24 rubles. i thought that she was worried about this, she said, get out of here, now i’ll call the police, this was my first such blow, of course i cried, stood there and went nowhere, of course i didn’t go anywhere on what train to moscow and... was forced
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to stay in leningrad, well, cool story, that is, you paid for your future destiny, contributed this, no, i just didn’t have any money for anything, even for a telegram, and how -they didn’t teach me that you could ask or something, i don’t remember now how i got out of it, but this was a sign, i went to petrov, that’s it, that’s your feeling from peter, why am i asking, because on me, when i was a young man, i first came to leningrad, despite the fact that i a native muscovite, in general, this big city didn’t surprise me, however, st. petersburg simply amazed me, that’s what i saw there when i was young, and i still have this impression that this is the best city in world, and i am terribly jealous of those who live there, those who study and work there, it seems to me that there really was some kind of culture there, especially in those years, there was still a completely different culture than in moscow, so i’m interested in, in these your impressions, i didn’t have that impression, it’s a very beautiful city, and maybe i was a little in this sense, inhibited, but such an impression, for example, as it makes on me now...
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so great, there is the daughter of kolker and maria pakhomenka, there is natasha pohomenko, the daughter of edita piekha, the son of ilona, ​​the son of allasipenko, the ballerinas there vanya kingdom of heaven, me i became a little slave, because it seemed to me that i
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was somehow, well, i was poor, i was very embarrassed by my poverty, purely material poverty, they dressed poorly there, no, i always dressed better than everyone else from school, because my mother also poverty sewed very well and i... in this sense, i was fashionable, on the contrary , they came and looked at me like, but then i was wow in appearance, i had long hair, i wore short hair, there was probably something like that, no, but i was embarrassed without money, it seemed to me that i couldn’t go somewhere with them, somehow approach them, because where were they and where was i, and saigon was already on the corner of deteyny nevsky, but he appeared somewhere, probably when i fledged, maybe even around the third year, when i already knew kuryokhin.
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everyone goes to theater institute a little sick in the head with the delusion of greatness, we all go there as folk artists, there’s just a feeling that you ’ve come, and if not you, then who, it’s already a folk one, you can do anything, and after the first year, when there’s only a third left there are fewer students, those who are unsuitable are expelled, you are already deserved, and in your second year you are already just an artist. by the fourth you understand that you know nothing, you can’t do anything, and vladimir viktorovich the master of the course kept saying: “nobody needs artists anywhere, the theaters are crowded, the judges are crowded, but good artists are always needed, so you, probably, will work, but you won’t, you’re lazy, your self-esteem is already below par,
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and you understand, this is where the work begins, that is, it’s the same kind of competition as in sports, here not even competition, your idea of ​​yourself changes, suddenly you understand that on vacation you need to go, not to the sea, but to read, that reading is right, reading is good, reading a lot, yes, ah, it seems like something before that you think that artistry is completely unnecessary, and then you thought, for example, there was someone’s i already heard an interview or some stories that there was moktunov’s star-star, but he was of little intelligence, for example, not very educated, by the way, it seems like they were, but he played high-brows all the time, and you think like that, well, if smaktunovsky- then i don’t need it at all, and then you realize that you have nothing to feed on, you have nowhere to get this from, and you have nothing to live with, and you understand that you are already getting to this point, not because the master there tells you: read , read, and what do you read, i’m interested in what you read then, well, straight tomos
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maanna, yes, we were forced to read, well, by the way, i read the classics at school, it was not easy for me not to put it down, i liked it, that’s why when i graduated from college. and i didn’t want to graduate from college, because they started inviting me somewhere from the third, from the second year, and my, i told my mother, and it’s not necessary, by the way, mom, to be an artist, higher education is absolutely a diploma in general, mom doesn’t give anything, i’ll probably leave, look, there’s tatyana drubich, vera glagoleva, look, mom, they don’t have higher acting education, they are filming, and my mother knelt down in front of me, directly... in the literal sense, she said: i really ask you, please bring your diploma, finish college, so i really ask you, please finish your studies, and you for the sake of your mother , you finished your studies, well, it already happened that way, but here’s one of your first roles, correct me if i’m wrong, it was in this famous cult series, the meeting place cannot be changed,
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look, it was an extra, that’s in general, but it’s not had nothing to do with it, look, there was a friend, an acquaintance, who was like that somewhere episodic. and he said, you want to meet vysotsky, who doesn’t want to, i was 18 years old, i said, yes, he says, well, if you’re filming, we’ll go there, and then we were very friends with govorukhin, i’m just famous. to you, i once told him after the fact, i say, slav, and you know that i was filming with you, and he won’t even do that, no, of course not, listen, an eighteen-year-old girl is dancing somewhere out there , and what does it matter to him, well, that’s why he put me on, that’s why he took me down, but i still have it ticket, and 4 rubles for filming as an extra, no, he says, oh well, well, we can assume that no, of course, what kind of role, but why are you state actors, no, i even filmed.
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watch me, and naturally, i played such a little episode for the chambermaid, i couldn’t,
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i didn’t know that they would approve me, but why be a laughing stock, then i already went to moscow for auditions, there were many auditions, the last audition was already with nikita mikhalkov, and ryazanov told me, in 2 days at least some advice, i want you to film, i don’t think there will be any advice argue with me, i flew, arrived in st. petersburg, there was a call, they told me that you... they kept telling me, i said, they won’t believe me, yes, because it was already graduation, i say, and you can send me a telegram, and i went up to petrov, and i said, vladimir viktorovich, in general, i was the same, they approved me as an undevoted woman, krizanova, he probably thought that i was delusional, because i was completely neo-gudalova, right from the word at all, well, i wasn’t the heroine with the long braid, the valaoka, the one who cried there, no, i was from another trade union, so ryazanov taught me... to walk, wear a dress, hold up your back, and what about ryazanov you have in general, it was good to work with him, when you are from
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the orenburg region, next to you are alisa frendlikh, nikita mikhalkov, proskurin, by the way, vite to a lesser extent, because he was not as old as i thought, lyudmila gurchenko, who starred in this film, because it was based on ostrovsky, then her line was cut out, yes, by the way, i saw fragments from your podcast where you tell how she is gave you advice about there. these are non-road signs, these are 52 steps to happiness, every week we take just one step towards a correct, healthy lifestyle, which we will tell you in our program, and as always , all the details about food, about medicine, about home and about life in the program live
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look, he says, you were in sevastopol yesterday on the set, and alexey petrenko saw you, he said that you were drunk, look, he says, you were somewhere in sevastopol and drank there, yes, and i say, already today in moscow about this i know you say, you don’t even... understand what a rumor among the artists, they will stop filming, he says, control yourself, these are some human lessons, this is what i remember, and then i was then confirmed by mashchenko at the tour the day before, and where my mother was supposed to play the wonderful elena solovey, and father yuri bogatyrev, and one great artist said to me, why do you need costumes again, no
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need, why would you repeat yourself, there should have been filming in those days. at the beginning of the 2000s, you played an heiress in the film, if i’m not mistaken, with your son, yes, that’s what family is for you, children, let me tell you for the first time too, yes, because i somehow always keep silent about it out of some kind of modesty, mom today, what will people say, somehow i don’t want this anymore, it means the heiress made up the story marina mareeva and i wrote down
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this story directly on a napkin, i played it directly for everyone, because when i arrived in moscow, i had friends... and katya maskina, who was the administrator of the film at musfilm, she became the producer of this film, found money, this is my story, i came up with it and my son naturally he was filming, but how old was he there, six years old, it was probably difficult to film, it wasn’t difficult, but would you like your children to follow in your footsteps? no, somehow i don’t have the strength to beat myself up and speak only through my corpse, and god forbid, well, like all the artists say that there’s no need to go there, i don’t know, i’m somehow a little cold, probably , what right do i have to get into it at all, because my mother gave me such freedom, and did not beg for you to finish,
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yes, she gave me such freedom in choosing and so she always supported me suddenly... i will forbid my children something or, on the contrary , advise me, no, this did not happen, the only thing is that when my son wanted to enter the conservatory to study guitar, his father said: “well, it’s unlikely that you will become the second eric clapton , so it’s better not to, and he graduated from the higher school of economics, although my daughter, for example, objectively, directly objectively, she is much more talented than me, right at times, but she doesn’t like this profession, she’s a brimer, well, too, she’s probably 24 year in total, she is also looking for something there somewhere, we don’t have like that." absolute freedom, i ’m not dragging anyone anywhere, okay, but if we also talk about your filmography, as they say, what would you say are the most important, expensive, successful, successful, happy works in cinema for yourself? people, here are the happy actors who can talk about this in complete seriousness and give themselves ratings, i, well, where you had a pleasure filming, interestingly, i really loved igor
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aposyan, he was my friend, who directed - in the series moroseyka indian summer , i’m not at all ashamed of myself there, i even received it. some prizes, and he also took down the graffiti, you know, i am very grateful to you for this, for this film, because when i was preparing for our program with you, i watched this film, which, unfortunately, i had not seen before , this is just a super movie, that’s how it’s scripted, and directed, and what amazing actors they play, that is, for me it was just some kind of discovery, alive, and of course the tragic fate of these men , yes, who played in it film, both boys and the director, well, that’s it, of course. in russia, modern russia, but this is a pain, then there is also something interesting, but maybe our viewers have not all watched this film, although i would really like to recommend it for viewing, the plot is that a young moscow artist who here in moscow he got into trouble, had a fight with his friend there, well, in general, he is studying at the institute to become an artist, there he had a fight with the rector, with the dean, i don’t know, but he goes to
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the wilderness, to a remote village, there to an intermediate village, it’s called, the filming took place, as i understand it, in the ryazan region, yes. his they give him an order, to make such a panel on the house of culture and there to depict the main people in this there, this is no longer a collective farm, not a state farm, this is probably already a perestroika village of the nineties, well, in general, the main people of this place, when he depicts, one of the women whom he must portray comes, she comes with a portrait of her father, who died in the war, and says: i agree to be painted only if i have this portrait in my hands, he draws her when it appears, other residents. the bodies find out about this and also bring photographs of their dead during the war there in the chechen war, in the afghan war, their dead relatives and ask him to draw, in the end it turns out like this...
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in general, films made at the beginning of this century, well that’s good, but please tell me, what wind, what fate brought you to this place, and it really seems to me that this is one of the best television, this is how it happened that you ended up in this television world, as far as i’m interested, this is how different the world of television is from the world of cinema, at all different worlds, it’s just that everything is different, for example, you know, well, i’ve already married, so to speak, successfully, to a very wealthy man. and i think, what a blessing, i will give birth to children, because i’m already old, i’m 38 years old, i need to be on time, everything is fine with me, a big house, in
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general, it’s a waste, and i was already so happy over 40, and suddenly they invite me try out for this program, let's get married, i watched it, i thought, my god, what the hell, where am i and where is television, no, here i am just somehow. form went to these auditions, it was 15 years ago, 16, 16 already, and they approved me, but i absolutely couldn’t work with the ear and the prompter, in general i’m straight and hello, well, it was such a test for me, and i was allowed to work without the ear without a prompter, and somehow that’s all it went and a year later there were already those all these years working without an ear without a prompter, and a year later there was a tiff for the program for the presenter, in general such a renaissance is closer. fifty happened, you like it, honestly, i want to tell you, if there had probably been another team, i would n’t have lasted like this, this is where everything worked out, we have an absolutely fantastic
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relationship with my editors, with the producer, with the team in general, and somehow with my friend, the longing for friendship has disappeared somewhere , there is no time for this, i go to work with some joy, with great joy , because i suddenly found my... people and i feel good with them, it turned out that this is such a big part of my life, so important, that suddenly i had enough, everything somehow came full circle, and maybe if if i had come when i was 30, i wouldn’t have been able to bear such a load, i wouldn’t have had much motivation, i felt this whole topic is interesting, i dug through a huge amount of literature on psychology, because i have nothing to do for 16 years. especially a daily program, you need recharge, you have nothing to work with, and this also affected, by the way, the relationship with my children, to this day,
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especially when today, well, everyone is going crazy, i was here in my homeland, when i don’t humiliate absolutely no profession, but when a taxi driver already has his own psychologist, you know, a neighbor who is retired also has her own coach, well, it’s somehow like she’s in the garden. there's something going on there, but she has her own coach, that’s great, yes, i think not, because i refute it all the time, i keep saying, no, no, no, let’s get out of this space where they tell you how to to live, how to separate yourself from someone and in general about your own territory, about your personal one, i want a living person again, but with some doubts, complexes, passions, who lives incorrectly, who makes mistakes, it’s interesting with people like that... with worked out, i don’t even know, they’re like dead, i don’t know what to talk to them about, because they have ready-made answers to everything, they immediately put out their hand, saying: no, you
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don’t need to come here, you don’t need to go there, you’ve never had your own coach, no, you know the name of this city for sure, even if you’ve never been here , famous water number 4, 17, oh, how beautiful she is, let’s lower our hands to accept the procedures. temperature -85° is something like this. we don't expect any aerobatics today. foreseen. hello eagle. we are located at an altitude of about 2.0 m above sea level. it’s especially cool to see things like this here: bright sunsets. this is my most atmospheric dinner. go. premiere. saturday on the first, yes, dear! yes, i’ll buy it, i’ll buy it, yes, i’ll be there soon,
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kvn, the first quarter-final, on saturday at the first, well, hello, brother, are you involved in crime, i see that you’ve wrung out the latvian’s cabinet. it’s interesting, over the 16 years that you have been working in this program, you have probably seen a huge number of people who passed between, probably not a single director or writer has really seen such a gallery of human faces in front of him, here they are somehow everything seems to have been erased for you they’ve already somehow mixed up there, or you remember them all, or you remember some especially, some especially, mostly, of course -
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memory erases them. well, what was interesting for you today? but i didn’t remember, not that i don’t remember the name of the person, although when i talk, i’m just immersed, i let it pass through me, but memory protects you so much, but there are, for example, maybe two dozen people whom i i will never forget those who teach you, who give you some kind of oxygen and answers to your questions, who somehow pull you out of this torment. when you’re just like in a dream, you can’t get out of this, they don’t help you, suddenly a woman comes and explains a couple of phrases to you using her example, but can you remember anything specific? yes, for example, there was a woman who came with her daughter, who and i understood that she was hurting her, she had already crippled her, just an unhappy girl, quite a pretty , very active mother who did not let her say a word that just didn’t bother her
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turned me into... some kind of pet, and i thought what would happen to me stroke on the program, he doesn’t throw around the same words, but i had a klinsky one - hypertensive, i was sitting there, crimson in color, my blood pressure rose, i just felt bad, i wanted to take this girl to live at home, it was some kind of hell and it was impossible not to shout her down, not to convince her of anything, and the absolutely broken, absolutely broken heroine who came here as a bride, so i told myself that i would never be so active, never, although my... child was on that moment, well, maybe 12-13 years old, and i'm right retreated from her, well, you see, this is never, but not literally, yes, so you saw, said something, and you repeat it word for word in your family or with friends , or with your husband or with someone, and you, well, somehow rethinking it on the way, when you’re driving home, yes, you apologize, and you start the next day as a completely different
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person, thank you, so... those people who, what happened to this girl? by the way, she was on our program again, and also came with her crazy mother, well, this is some kind of hell, this is just hell i think there are even some pieces floating around on the internet somewhere, well, it was horror, and i think how many crazy mothers in the world there are in this country who didn’t arrange their own, i just said so, get off your daughter, arrange your life, what are you doing, well, i spoke harshly, that is, you are such an impulsive emotional person. well, not in every case, but when it’s already too much, when you see how a kitten is being tortured in front of you, tying a weight to its tail, you know, and this child, this poor kitten, well, you die, you are doing something, but this was such a situation, that is, there were such situations, generally speaking, this is a really interesting topic that concerns russia throughout the world, this is how to raise children, and this is the relationship between children and parents,
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probably you... have your own view on these things, this is what we do this way, not that way, you know, but it seems to me that this is our russian passion, desire, like max frisch, remember santa cruz, you wanted to enter not just my heart, you wanted to enter mine in my dreams, well, something like this, we want to enter every cell of the body of our lover, husband, girlfriend, i don’t know, children, there are a lot of us in each other’s lives. this is in relation to children, i think this is a huge mistake, we don’t just immerse ourselves in them, we don’t just stick to them, we don’t give them air, we don’t give them the opportunity to breathe, because we are taught our some terrible experience, especially my generation, yes, which has gone through so much, we always want to lay it everywhere, right here run ahead, and we ourselves know better what kind of education they should receive. a hat or
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not to wear it, that is, we know everything better, it seems to me that this is the first, biggest mistake, we begin to strangle them from the cradle, with this very love of ours and some of our involvement, like that. with my participation, when you just want to, well, we are in relation to all our loved ones, for example, i am like this, that is, such despotism, yes, because i am very passionate, and i am jealous, terrible, so i am my friends i'm jealous of me i want to be their only one, my children, my mother, i tormented my husbands, i don’t know, with this love of mine, until i started reading the right literature, i don’t follow, i ’m not blind, i don’t... well, i don’t act, and i realized what my problem was, but it’s good that i realized it earlier, and i was already projecting onto my mom, i think, like here she is, a person who has never talked to one psychologist in her life, hasn’t read a single one book
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on psychology, that’s how she is, where did she get this wisdom to give my brother and me so much freedom, keeping your finger on the pulse, that is , helping if you ask, yes, they participate if you ask, and it was never a matter of importance, not with my brother, i realized that i have so many friends, children, that i need to take a few steps back, on time, with my son, i probably overcame it, with my daughter, well, somehow i had enough brains, it seems to you that this is precisely our russian property, our russian, yes, there is no such thing anywhere, listen , and my son is now 32 years old, i’m just stepping on my own throat, no matter what, he’s married, right? from the age of 17, they were together with the girl, i was already reading, analyzing, looking, drawing conclusions, i gave birth to him at 32, so i was already not very stupid, and i gave birth to my daughter at 40, that
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is, my children were lucky , that i weakened a little in the reins, it seems to me that this is the first mistake - in relation to children, the second, well, the second is also from the same series, cannot be given. something they don’t ask you to do, then blame them for it: i put my life on you, i did everything so that you learned, for in order for you to buy an apartment for a fool, look, now i’m 35 years old there, and i’m already limping, sideways, sick, dying and so on, there’s no need, everything still needs to be done a little at a distance, it seems to me that the main thing is, now it’s stupid, maybe i’ll say, if you have extra money, help, just don’t ask, don’t meddle, don’t control, this shouldn’t happen, really, and of course, education, education and health, i’m everything i told my children, i will close my eyes, like my mother said, to your bad behavior, the main thing is to study well, read, study well, i
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will close my eyes to this, and i also tell the children, study, read, take care of your health, well, it seems to me that the most important thing, and i also want to ask you about the podcast, since you and i both happen to be podcast hosts, this idea of ​​a writing podcast, how did it come about, is this your idea? my producer is creative, let 's get married, who's just me, my younger sister, she's just a part of me, we even look very similar, she's just mine, here's my love, she tells me, there's this one history, podcast letters, let's try, but i 'm having a hard time getting into new projects, i have a lot of complexes that i can't handle it, i won't succeed, and i'm just going crazy, i say, no, no, no, no, no, i don’t like everything new, trying, starting, i’m afraid i won’t succeed, let someone else do it, that’s it, she says, well... well, what, well , it won’t work, it won’t work, well, let’s take it off trial ones, but what can you refuse, so you recorded a certain number of programs, yes, in these podcasts of yours, who was most interesting to you, who you were talking about, here i am about yuli i watched dronina, recently you had a podcast,
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here is my generation of such cynical know-it-alls, in the eighties, eduard osadov, veronika tushnova, yulia drunina were not the kind of poets we read, well, they read drunina at school, they wrote there. or there are some love lyrics, but there was no such thing, because i wanted, well , something else, i now regret that i had such a position at night, and who else are you talking about, that’s who you remember from your heroes, heroines, i was very interested in sveta kryuchkova, she is very close to me, we talked about tsvitaeva, well, sveta just knows everything about tsvitaeva and even more, i myself played akhmatova, yeah, well, tsvitaeva is her love, that’s for me. it was interesting, here ’s an interesting classic question: who is closer to you, tsvetaeva or akhmatova? you know, i would prefer not to know their biography, strange as it may seem, because reading this and knowing about them, a womanish, unnecessary thing comes out in me, and well, it’s better for me not to know, i’m starting
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to judge this is not my skill, and this bothers me a little, this is what i know about akhmatova and about tsvitaeva, what kind of mothers they were, but i can’t wrap my head around it, i want a pure genre, i just want to enjoy. by what they wrote, that is, it bothers me, oddly enough, they were all bad mothers and drunina, somehow from her daughter, and marlin dietrich, and akhmatova and... svyataeva, that’s what it’s my business, damn, it’s none of my business, they are great women, i should only think about this, but why am i dragging out this thought, what is more important, what is more important? well, after all, if you had a choice to take it there on a conditional basis desert island, tsvetaeva or akhmadova, which book would you take? akhmatova, i read her a lot at the institute, well then she is from st. petersburg, yes, yes, she somehow has less of this nerve of such hysteria, yes, like tsvitaeva, she is smaller. you can’t say more intelligent, there’s no such thing, you can’t
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say, well, i don’t know, you can say anything you want, but akhmatova, of course, is such an absolute queen of russian poetry, and she’s so regal that she replies absolutely everything, that’s what kind of mother they were really it's really none of my business, that's it so when today they pull out and excite minds with the fact that you can, i don’t know, fill in any last name, find out all their underwear, i don’t want when how the art was. for us , in my time, but no one knew about personal life, today you know everything, it bothers me, it really bothers me, i want to shed tears over the fiction, and then i want some kind of absolute sterility, absolutely what -angela, thank you very much for this conversation, it was really very interesting, it seems unusual to me, at least at least for me, but i think for our viewers, who are probably used to seeing you in a slightly different form, that’s why thank you for your frank conversation in connection with your birthday, yes, let me tell you, thank you
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very much, yes, i’m sorry that i i wasn’t cheerful, perky, cheerful, perky, you ’ve been seen many times, let someone like that , thoughtful, a little absorbed in himself, see you, this is really very interesting, thank you. hello everyone, the podcast of everyone wants to fly is on air on channel one and i am its host leonid yakubovich. today you and i will not fly anywhere, today we will remember a man, but if not legendary, then at least outstanding. the name of this man was always hushed up in the soviet union; all his achievements, although mostly they came to light even before the revolution, were crossed out from all publications. we. we are talking to you today about a man whose name was igor sikorsky,
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an outstanding aircraft designer. well, let's start with this: on may 25, 1889, in the family of a famous psychiatrist, the family was wealthy, moreover, i repeat, it occupied a position in society very serious situation. therefore, according to the established tradition in the family, the boy was baptized, just like his older sisters and brothers, only members of the imperial family were baptized. in this case , the boy was baptized by the emperor's cousin and became his wife, the grand duchess. at baptism the boy was given the name igor. mom , naturally, adored the boy, read him various fairy tales, but this is what de vincia showed in the story about the great leonardo.
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noticed how an acacia leaf falls, it’s easy to check if you throw it, yes any leaf, but in my opinion, an acacia leaf is better, it doesn’t fall down, it starts to rotate like this along some strange trajectory, only then it lands, once upon a time, i repeat, in that century bc, in china there was a toy like this, a stick on which two petals are attached,
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said surprise in general to those who have ever seen it, and igor was completely shocked, probably this is where his love, his dream began. about the sky, when he saw this picture, and he was, in my opinion, three or four years old, maybe a little more, he asked the servant in the house to pull him a rope between two trees, on which they hung a cradle, at a height of about three or four days, and he sat in this cradle and felt
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himself in the sky, in the air, while his relatives, while his friends, friends, his brothers and sisters played, he sat in this little man for hours, imagining as if he were flying, then more, he studied, his parents sent him to study in the st. petersburg naval cadet corps, after, in my opinion, six months, he suddenly unexpectedly announced parents, i'm tired of it, it's not mine, like this the argument insisted and achieved his goal, in 906 he left - to a technical school in france, such as duveny de lanno, at that time a fairly famous person. about six months passed, maybe a little more, he returned, in 908 he entered the mechanical faculty of the kiev polytechnic institute, where there was
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an aeronautical section, which was led by mozhaisky’s students, there and so on. in the second or third year. he invented the steam motorcycle, for which he became absolutely famous at the institute, without finishing, well, probably, this has already become a habit of the institute, he left, in 908 he began building his first helicopter, i must tell you that this is an incredibly technically complex matter, at that time, i repeat, this is... this is the beginning of the century, nevertheless, in 909 he completed, i am now holding in my hands not his, naturally a helicopter, i am holding in my hands the legendary mi-8, but nevertheless, to make it clear, he always dreamed that the helicopter would be just like this, i then i’ll explain how this helicopter is different, this
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helicopter design is different from many others, but for some reason it i always wanted to make a helicopter with one rotor, the helicopter could not take off, that is, it sputtered, of course, they started it, but it could not take off, nevertheless, in 909, he gathered his family and asked to finance his trip to paris, his elder brother was categorically against it, because sending young sucker to paris, and even with a certain amount of money, is generally speaking dangerous, nevertheless, having shown character, and this later... will be useful to him all his life, he insisted on his family allocated funds and he went to paris to study with the famous designer ferdinand ferber. ferber, i must tell you, first of all, immediately explained to him that inventing a helicopter is easy, building it is more difficult, you can
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never lift the air, and gave as an example all the living creatures that existed at that time on our planet, that still exist, that ran along... the ground and from which no one had ever taken off into the air, well, let's say, higher than a meter and a half there, but sekorsky was a man, i repeat, of an incredible character, he decided that it would be done, he threw it, by the way, helicopter engineering didn’t work out, it didn’t work out because there just wasn’t enough theory, it was just not yet clear, many parameters, aerodynamics, how the propeller should rotate, what configuration of the blades, well, a lot of things didn’t exist then, he left them to during this time, i began to engage in aircraft construction. on june 8, 909, he built his first aircraft, s2, and made a flight, small and short-lived, but nevertheless
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made. here is the very first plane, of course, the inventor himself was behind the handles, he never allowed it. no one to lift the air a car of his own making, now he is wearing a furashka, but everywhere in all subsequent photographs he is wearing his traditional hat. this is a legendary photograph, it must be said that, mm, sikorsky, who did not graduate from college, suddenly it turned out that he did not have a diploma, and his fellow aircraft engineers wrote collective scribbles. polytechnic institute with a request to give him a diploma for his merits, and sekorsky did not just receive a diploma for success. his imperial
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majesty, who was very pleased with what he saw, presented sekordsky with a watch, it was going years, in 911, this man received a diploma as an iceman; in the same year, during maneuvers near kiev, he set four all-russian... air records. in april 912 he was awarded a large gold medal at the moscow aeronautical exhibition. and in the spring of '12 he moved to st. petersburg. he was invited to become the chief designer of the newly formed aeronautical department by the chairman of the russo-balt society, the russo-baltic carriage-building plant. a man who then invested a lot of effort and money. in what he was doing sikorsky, around 13 years old, at the aeronautical plant of this same russian-baltic carriage
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of the repair and construction plant, light non-planes s5a, s 6b, s8, s10 were built, all with this sekorsky and a monoplane s7, s11, s11a and s-12, incredibly in a year . a four-engine airplane, ilya muromets, which was fantastic at that time, was built, i
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must tell you that this building was actually gigantic and, for those times, for today, a huge apparatus with a passenger cabin, where guests sat, who were served, what’s surprising is that this never happened then; they served coffee, tea, and they could have breakfast. on the plane, in june of the fourteenth year, 1914, he set a world record for the moscow-kiev flight in 13 hours, i must tell you that the flight was generally, how to say, fun, somewhere in the sixth to eighth hour of the flight the fuel gas line burst the hot engine began to flood, a fire naturally broke out, the mechanic rushed to put it out, it caught fire, the second mechanic rushed to put it out, the mechanics together put out the plane, they were supposed to fly to odessa, they didn’t make it to odessa, they landed in kiev, well, there was an
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incredible furor, of course, photojournalists, a crowd of people, here was the first plane, by the way, his imperial majesty personally allowed himself to ride the car, this is the same plane with the first passengers on board, i said that during the flight to... to odessa, a gas line burst in the air and the engine caught fire, this is the same machine that allowed you to repair the engine in the air, it was open, by the way, over there, you see, these windows, this is where the first ones were located passengers, there were a dozen and a half - the airfield dog shkalik was the passenger. when i saw all this beauty, i thought it was an exhibition of some kind of cakes, only the last thing that came to my mind was that these were lip balms. this is the prevention of bacteria viruses, this one makes the lips swollen, by the way, you are so cool about this shade, we produce it.

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