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it doesn’t work either, the third time the same thing , the same result, in the end he comes to the conclusion that not firstly, you can’t raise the question about the meaning of life in general, you can only raise the question about the meaning of your own life, everyone has a meaning my own, and secondly, this answer, it should not precede life itself, that is , it is wrong to pose the question in such a way that i must first find the answer, write it on the wall, that the meaning of life is:
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recent empirical psychological research has come to the conclusion that exist three dimensions of meaning. the first dimension of meaning is the actual answer to what the meaning of life is. some words are a verbal concept of defining meaning, the meaning is there, yes, i answer, the meaning is in struggle, in love, in something else in relationships, yes, that is, this is some specific concept, an intellectual concept. this is the first dimension, the second dimension - this is what i was just talking about, the feeling of my life. meaningful, it means a feeling of fullness, the fullness of life, this is such an emotional experience. i don't know what the meaning of life, but i know that my life is meaningful now or i feel that my life has no meaning. so, that is, the first is the intellectual component of the meaning, the second is the emotional component of the meaning, the third component is, again, i don’t even think about the meaning of life, but this is the question of what my actions are aimed at, that is, what my life. what is it about, what is it
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aimed at, what is it connected to, this is exactly what we can talk about, this is the third dimension, what i really do, such an effective dimension meaning, what do i invest my resources into, what do i invest my strength into, what do i invest my energy into, what do i generally invest my life into, and is there a factor of inertia here? once upon a time my goal was to pass the same unified state exam or get approval? from mom and dad or to earn a reputation as an employee there, then i’ve already received this, but life still continues to roll along these meanings, of course, no one has canceled the inertia factor, it’s always easiest to continue living the way you’ve lived until now, because to bring some changes in our life always requires much more effort, much more energy, much more creative efforts than to continue to move along the same rails.
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the remarkable american psychologist, the recently deceased salvator maddi, built such a theory, in his time of existential choice, that all the important choices that we make in our lives are choices between preserving what is, preserving the status quo between the past and the future, that is some step forward, somewhere into the unknown, and different people to varying degrees inclined or to do...
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that involve investment energy, and here we cannot escape from this choice, from this challenge, we need in order to develop, in order to become more complex, we need to put effort into what we do, not just every day go to work, but to raise the question of whether i go to work correctly, whether i go to work correctly, why i go to work, maybe it’s better for me not to go to this job at all, change jobs, maybe it would be better for me to create my own business or even go somewhere to the other end of the earth, do something else, that is, it turns out that in fact, if we don’t just relax and go with the flow,
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a very small part of our human potential is realized, so now there are various debates about how many percent the capabilities of the human brain are used by 3%, 10% and so on, i meet... but nevertheless, there is a very, very wide spread here, there are people who need this power for something, they use it with current , but there are people for whom this is completely redundant, and this again is a matter of choice, you see, in many ways it is a matter of choice, at one time an outstanding psychologist, domestic... our lev semenovich vygotsky formulated such an important concept as the social situation of development. behind this
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concept is that in every culture society offers children a certain set of requirements that these children must meet upon reaching adulthood. well, we have reached adulthood and received our diplomas. what next? is there life after the unified state exam? and it really turns out to be a matter of taste, it turns out. to develop to the point of, in general, without limitlessness, there are a lot of niches that allow us not
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to develop, after all, this adult person, to whom society no longer makes any clear demands, who feels that he does not owe anything to anyone, has woken up with the question: why, are there any recipes, methods, how to look for the answer, how to look for the meaning? well, you know, there’s just no general recipe here, here you need to work, here you need to work. i can’t, i can’t say that take such and such a pill or read such and such a book from page 60 to 75, and you will get the answer to this question: here you need to understand what is wrong in life, yes, why, well, sometimes this manifests itself in such things as, for example, fear of death, yes, fear of death is one of those symptoms which are associated with precisely the lack of meaning in life, because if life is empty, paradoxically, it seems...
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it certainly correlates with happiness, there are many recent studies that are trying to separate them, that is, their connection is quite obvious, in what they differ from each other, but this is the meaning of life, on the one hand it helps to increase the resources of happiness when everything is good in our lives. positive emotions meaning just enhances this; on the other hand, meaning is , on the contrary, a resource for coping with situations
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critical, traumatic, that is, when something is unfavorable in our life, then the meaning is precisely what helps us cope with this unfavorability, what helps us endure it and withstand even the dominance of negative emotions, grief, there are often situations when people who have suffered some kind of bereavement... they find their meaning in helping other people who are faced with similar situations. there is a wonderful, absolutely wonderful phrase on this topic that i found in one of kurt’s books vonagut, with reference to his son mark the doctor, with reference to his son, he gave such a wonderful formula, such a final meaning that works even in the most critical, in the most tragic situations, the meaning is to help each other get through all of this, whatever it is. this is the podcast of schrödinger's cat, i am its
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host grigory tarasevich, our guest is dmitry lentsev, a psychologist, with whom we are talking about such a global thing as the meaning of life. before meeting you, i asked my eleventh graders write a short essay about the meaning of life, almost. everyone, without directly saying anything, made the first phrase, everyone has their own meaning of life, yeah, but it turns out that we have 8 billion meanings of life on the planet.
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it’s still in me, it can’t make sense. frankl has a wonderful metaphor about a boomerang. what is a boomerang? is it a toy that you throw away and it comes back into your hands? no, actually, for a moment , a boomerang is a hunting weapon. hunting weapons of the australian aborigines, using with which they simply hit the prey. the hunter throws a boomerang, and the boomerang should not
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return anywhere, it should hit the prey’s head and remain in its skull. and after that he comes up, accordingly, takes out the boomerang, puts the prey on his shoulder, moves on, only the boomerang that missed the target comes back, so we frank also says, we return to ourselves when we missed our target in the world , that’s our goals, our meaning, they are there in the world when we missed, didn’t hit it, we return to ourselves, we begin to delve into ourselves, in fact our goal is meaning, they are there in the world, but still the first group... do something to bring something into the world, not something extract from the world. the most tragic situation is when we are unable to do anything at all, our capabilities are limited, the last resource is that we can change our attitude towards this situation.
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frankol illustrated this with the example of his four-year stay in the nazis. concentration camp so he remembered such a situation, when in the evening, after the end of the working day, a column of prisoners there under escort returns from their place of work to their barracks in a concentration camp, moving their tired, exhausted feet, in this situation , i imagined that the war was over, that i was invited to a conference in which -the university, i...
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myself to maintain some kind of hope, to remain resilient in general, to ultimately survive , and frankol wrote that it seemed that the greatest chances of surviving in a concentration camp were not those who were the strongest physically, bodily, but precisely those who had some kind of meaning, who had something to save their lives for, for whom something was waiting, or at least they believed, there was a chance that someone or something was waiting for them or some important matter or some people who are still alive. could be alive, and on this, first of all, depended those vital resources that helped people survive and withstand in such a seemingly hopeless situation, well, the famous formula, who knows,
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only to kill, die, but to kill for her meaning. and there are bad meanings of life, this is the meaning of life, when the meaning of life is divorced from life itself, here is the example that i just started talking about, this is its meaning, which is hard, it is rigid, and it has already become detached from life, here... the connection of things with each other, when, when we extract this meaning from the very structure of life, so tolstoy seemed to say, yes, that
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life itself is primary, and then we must comprehend life, that’s when we change this attitude, when meaning comes before life, here such malignant phenomena can arise, when for the sake of meaning people not only die, but kill, so here’s the second, second, what frankl said, example, yes, meaning life in search of meaning. life, it’s not about finding it and stopping there, it’s about continuing to look so that this process doesn’t end. there is a well-known buddhist saying: look for a buddha, find a buddha, kill a buddha, look for a buddha, that is, the meaning is in searching, not is to find the answer. there is one more such joke on this topic, which can probably end with, yes, guys, what is the meaning of life, what a good question, boy, do you really want to ruin it with an answer. wonderful finale, thank you very much, thank you to those who watched us and listened, may the power of meaning be with you,
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hello, dear friends, today everything is unusual, but the most unusual thing of course is you, my dear viewer, you are as always. full of surprises, well, today we will try to be a match for you, this is fantastic beauty, this is alisa, her last name is ten, this is a person who has an interesting name, here is rust pazyumsky, and the full name, full name rustik, well, it’s just strange to write rustik on posters, so rust, rust, tell us , please, what you have in your hands is viola damba, this is the predecessor.
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to sing baroque. i am a singer, i sang different music, i sing, and i studied jazz and indian music, classical, oh, then i collaborated a lot with classical musicians, but just at the junction, that is, when you need some kind of jazz vocals in academic music or ethnic vocals, there is always something at the junction, because i am not deeply rooted in any genre and about...
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eternal, as in... our trouble with you, like an empty palm, locked for some reason in itself, they promised clones and a parade, punished you and took you home, and said, no one is happy here. and now i’ll bring everyone here, i’m gaining weight and losing fur, that’s why i am, whether it’s for the sun to melt the snow, that’s why i’m your amulet,
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about a nightingale and a young man and his love , courtly means trytsovskaya and courtly, this is rather a courtly norm of behavior already by the 16th century. just a gallant attitude towards a woman, a certain, well, let’s say, a set of aesthetic and some philosophical views, including love, where did you get the viola before gumbo, it’s not sold anywhere, it’s for sale, what do you mean, we should probably order it, the master will make it for 2 years, that’s what happened with this viola, the master literally made it for 2 years, it’s maple, as far as i know , the top is a resonating spruce, spruce, maple, in my opinion, these are beads, fretboard? as of course there should be ebony, but no, here is ebony, and here is this, let’s say, simpler option, yes, to be honest, i don’t even know what kind of wood it is, but it’s strong enough, it took you a long time study viola to gamba, well, i’m still in the process,
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but i’ve been playing for four, four years, and i’ve infected this friendship with this, yes, it’s contagious, you see, except for rusn, no one teaches this medieval instrument, but where are you ours ? well, let’s just say that i ’ve been involved in baroque and old music in general for quite a long time, and initially i was a violinist violist, it was in this capacity that i began to study early music, well, early music, in fact, this is a fairly broad concept, folk was also included, who played the fiddle, then i played the middle ages in the latern of magic, there was a fairly famous ensemble, at some point this crooked old music led me... to this instrument, for the first 3 years i studied myself, well, because in fact it is possible, because the instrument itself prompts, and the music prompts, but of course i lacked some purely technical knowledge from a native speaker, so to speak, and i
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was lucky because vittoria ghielmi came to russia, a famous european violist, that’s the name of the viola player de gamba, yes, the violist, yes, the violist, who played for many years in jaraddin armonica, is also not the latest. ensemble music, frankly speaking, so he and i had to play a concert, i was very worried, because he was like a recognized master of the viola, and by that time i had been playing for three or four years, and we had to play in a small hall philharmonic in st. petersburg, everything worked out, everything was fine, and moreover, the man himself turned out to be absolutely amazing, vitoria, he, that is, those few lessons in general that i had with him, he tried his best to give me some knowledge during this time... he could have continued to do something himself, what is dagamba in the name? a viola is apparently a large violin, a dagamba, what is a dagamba - these are legs, that is, a viola da gamba is a viola with legs, well then let's continue to enjoy your art
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. the night captivated me with its brow. in the morning she unraveled to fight evil, a similar day, as a friend hugged me, so the evening didn’t seem to recognize me right away, captivated by the night, sailed like a dashing canoe, not to overcome what is in its turn, not to drag away everything that is on earth, queen of the night, the fire was dozing in the hall, and the morning flared up with dry fire, it’s time, it’s already as bright as day, well, get up, go and drink water, and don’t feel sorry for yourself and don’t spill the water,
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the zen whispered on my skin, he like a deer running through a thicket, guiding a wild pack. do about you and me, as if you didn’t mean it, that even he, no longer he at all, is no longer young, the sky will dry out, the sunset will become ashes, the darkness will be filled with darkness, and the prison will become invisible, the night has captivated me with its brow, and wake me up in the morning. to fight evil, a similar day as a friend of mine hugged me, and here it is evening, as if i won’t admit it right away, i was captivated by the night.
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and this is the first anthropology podcast, our guests are alisa ten and rus pazyumsky, why did this same viola damba captivate you, alisa? well , initially i wanted to understand the stylistics, probably of baroque singing, and i began to play the violi, baroque music, and well , it was easier for me through the instrument, so it happened, singing, it’s just something very extroverted for me, here you just sit with the instrument and you can just play on it all day and nothing, you don’t need anyone, it’s very interesting, in general, how is it built? like the guitar yes this is mi yes well this is re la mi dol re la
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then judging by the impression we can get of frilly music based on your songs we can conclude the first frilly song there is no cycle the chorus is not repeated as it would be in others in songs, we also don’t immediately find where the typical structure of the chorus, verse is like this... they said, chorus and bridge, there’s nothing of that, apparently, a borok song is a monologue, and a yearning feeling, yes, probably, but in general, really , forms songs and poems, respectively, they were very different in the baroque, including a verse for the chorus, this is probably the oldest poetic form - this is rondo, that is, it is a repeating refrain and a changing episode, but at the same time in baroka there is... maybe
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there is no verse and chorus, but there is a so -called dokapa, which means a hat, this is a form when the first part, the second contrasting part returns to the first part, there are a lot of these forms, and it’s more likely that's what i'm trying to do specifically with the songs on in russian, with these new ones, to convey , as it were, the spirit, a very definite spirit, i don’t know what it is... in russian, yes, yes, no, they resemble something, but the form is not wrong, as if one can guess exactly an exact correspondence, that is, this is not stylization as such, but rather this is just some kind of general, i don’t know, feeling, the vocal business has its own characteristics in the baroque genre, of course there are, but since this is a tradition that, well not like indian music, yes, that is... it is impossible to listen to the native speaker, but
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it was very modernized, that is, it was opera, there was a completely different music, romanticism, that is, these are direct heirs, but there are a lot of things, there was a very active, vibrant, cultural life, someone thinks that we need to look for, uh, maybe even uh , the roots are in north africa baroque, that andalusian music has been preserved there, that this is closer to baroque music, in general it seems to me that there is also south america e.g. there, since the spaniards sailed there, they have somehow preserved it a little, oddly enough, they have some baroque genres, so on, they are still alive, they seem to be a tradition, it continues without interruption, well, let’s continue, continue to travel on these waves. the fire is burning, its light is calling, its heat is trembling,
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today in moscow, in russia, well, in everything in this case, this is much more in demand than it was before. for example, there 20 years ago in moscow, thanks to the fact that there is a department of early music at the conservatory, this is actually the only city in russia where there is a department of early music, thanks to this there are, for example, harpsichordists, there are many good ones, but there is no such thing anymore, probably not in any city in russia, that is, in st. petersburg, well, there are also clavicinists, some who studied in germany, some who studied with those who studied in germany, but in any case these are rare people, who practice, and what is played differently on the harpsichord than on...
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and how he builds it, he can build it in a narrow arrangement in a wide one, or the bass here, and the rest at the top, and these are different colors, and it depends on the performer, on how he feels, how he sees, how he contacts the soloist, for example, well, in general, borok is compared to jazz too, yes, because? people who are engaged in historical deceit, they, in principle, must necessarily improvise. plus in general, what i like about old music is that the notes, for example, a baroque text is not an indication of where you need to put your finger, hold it here, there with a sword, and hold it for so long, it was literally perceived
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as graphics, as a drawing, it is, let’s say , a journey of a sound object in space, when we fly up, we really seem to be lifting. tablo, everyone who plays the tabla, they sing, you’re just universal, in principle, yes, yes, yes, but i haven’t seen women playing the tabla - this is a drum, i hope you play, of course, it’s not a female instrument, viola also not the most feminine instrument, well, after all, that is, it is still quite powerful, especially with a bag, and so on, and this is also a large model, this is a beretran, and
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such a master lived at the turn of the 17th-18th centuries, in fact , this one the semester model is named after him , bertrand da. yes, and there was also a so-called female beretran, this is a colechon, this is another master who made smaller instruments, also seven strings, they have such a rosette, wow, it seems to me ruds that this is a very feminine instrument, because at least how do you play it, how alice plays, it suits her very well, no, no, firstly, it’s a gentle picking, not just an arpeggio, you know, then, well, of course, it harmonizes very well with the voice, i really like how the bow adds a subtle sound, such continuous. which is very harmonious, it’s very feminine, in my opinion, this is how you imagine, if only there were a palace, and even the midnight soda was singing, alice was sitting somewhere, playing, and you were declaring your love for some lady, or else you suggest she go to the tax office, this is of course very good, she needs some let's release such a record.
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