anxiety, this is a natural normal feeling, anxiety is a signal of the unpredictability of the future, in order to get rid of the feeling of anxiety, i must get rid of the future, that is, surrender to this very inertia and follow the path of preserving what is, but in this case i get rid of anxiety , but i have a feeling of guilt for unrealized opportunities, because i refuse to realize some new opportunities and always remain with the fact that there is... a choice that we have to make all the time in significant situations. this is naom's korzhavin has a wonderful poem with a refrain, the worst thing is the inertia of style. yes. and until the moment a person retains this choice of the future, he is not lost there at 30 years old, not 50, at each new point there are always new, new choices, because none of the choices is completely final. in our life.

new and new choices appear all the time, another thing is that the same inertia of style is at work here, which you and korzhavin have now quite accurately formulated, because getting used to choosing the past, getting used to choose the status quo, it becomes more and more difficult for us at every new step to choose the future, to choose something new, that is, a person lives, well, let’s say he turns 50 years old, conventionally i ’m guessing by my age, at some point he wakes up after listening to a podcast and thinks, why and how difficult is it for him to make a new choice? well, there are many different stories on this topic in literature and cinema, but often these stories are connected with some critical events in a person’s life, for example, a person gets killed diagnosis, he has a year left to live, but now what should he do with his life for a year, that is , before that he thought that his life seemed to have no meaning. of such a visible end, it

will still continue for a long time, and now very clear visible boundaries arise, yes, that is , time, the countdown has begun, so what to do, how to live with this time, there are a number of well-known studies on this topic that have been published as once about the fact that, let’s say, the experience of clinical death, into which a person finds himself and from which he is brought out, which leads to an awareness of the finitude of life of some kind. sharp, yes, it leads to an increase, so to speak, in the psychological quality of life, a person suddenly realizes responsibility for his life, responsibility for how he will spend the remaining time, begins to take his life seriously, life is a very serious business , as the eminent psychotherapist jim bugintal said, and few people take it seriously enough. maybe the question is, why is it worth doing before there is a fatal diagnosis or something even worse? well of course, because

naturally, it is not at all necessary to wait for this, but this is the question, the question, in many ways, is whether we are able to treat our life somehow consciously, or are we just going with the flow, going with the flow, this is the easiest, this is the most such an energy-saving mode is to go with the flow; all living things have an inherent desire to save energy. people are not inclined to put any extra effort into anything, neither physical nor even intellectual, we existed in the fields, we prefer to do without unnecessary hassle, not to be overloaded, don’t sweat it, and so on, and so on, and so on, but the trick is that everything is human, everything is specifically human, it just requires energy, it requires some kind of investment of effort, personality development, development of managing one’s own life, one’s own behavior, energy and here

we cannot escape this choice, we need to escape this challenge in order to develop, in order to become more complex, we need to put effort into what we do, not in just going to work every day, but in that, to to raise the question of whether i ’m going to the right job, whether i’m going to work correctly, why i ’m going to work, maybe i’m better off in general.

at first glance, in fact, much more is in our hands, if we shake ourselves up, wake up, realize that there are different possibilities in the world, so... let's think about what i need, why, what i really want, this is really the most difficult question is, what do i want, well, after all, my imaginary poster, which should be hung over every bed, why am i doing this, why do i wake up, are there any negative consequences, so i looked at this question, why, i realized that my work or my studies did not make any sense, i chose to do nothing at all, why? go to school if it's meaningless, why be a pr manager if it doesn't make anyone feel good, what to do, well, the point is, no one forces you to actually look for meaning, no one forces you to live at all, that's ultimately the point taste, this is, after all, your free

choice, please, you can stay in bed for the rest of your life, don’t get off the couch, watch tv series, in general, not so few people in different parts of the world. who need this power for something, they use it with current, and there are people for whom it is completely redundant, and this again is a matter of choice, you see, in many ways it is a matter of choice, at one time an outstanding psychologist, our russian lev semenovich

vygotsky formulated such an important concept as the social situation of development. what lies behind this concept is that in every culture, society offers children a certain set of requirements.

well sometimes it manifests itself in things like, for example, the fear of death, yes, the fear of death is one of those symptoms that are associated with precisely a lack of meaning in life, because if life is empty, paradoxically, it seems, if life is empty, if

there is no content in life, and there is nothing to remember in life, then it would seem that there is nothing to be afraid of death, because there is nothing special to lose, right? they have a much more richly saturated content, they have less fear of death, and a person whose life experiences such traumatic worries about the prospect of death, which we all face somewhere ahead of us , well, probably the meaning of life somehow correlates with happiness, it certainly correlates with happiness. there are many recent studies that are trying to separate them, that is, their connection is quite obvious, in what ways they differ from each other, but the meaning of life, on the one hand , it helps to increase the resources of happiness, when everything is good in our lives, positive emotions meaning just enhances this, on the other

hand, meaning is, on the contrary, a resource coping with critical, traumatic situations, that is, when something happens in our lives. unfavorable, then the meaning is precisely what helps us cope with this unfavorable situation, what helps us endure it and withstand even the dominance of negative emotions and grief there. with reference to his son mark the doctor, here with reference to his son, he gave such a wonderful formula, such a final meaning that works even in the most critical...

that yes, everyone has their own meaning, but since the situations with which collide

different people, they are often similar to each other, the meanings that they find, they also often have a lot in common with each other, and he identified three groups of meanings, well , he called these generalized meanings values, the first is the values ​​of creativity, then is what we create, what we bring into the world, something new? something new that we create, work, yes, we build something, yes, we create some ideas, that is, what we bring into the world, generate, this, this and raising children, this is also always creation, generation something new, the first is the most natural way for a person to generate meaning, the second, through the fact that we, on the contrary, take from the world through experiences, pleasure, no, no, no, no, experiences, experiences, love, experiences there, let’s say, what -the, uh, mystical experiences of faith, there,

some kind of cognitive experiences, yes, some feelings that i experience when communicating with art, this is always a feeling of something that i, uh, discover in the world, i admire this world, i find something of this kind of experience, because pleasure, this is just a secondary thing, yes, here... pleasure cannot be the meaning of life, because pleasure is an internal state, it is about me, it is not about the world, my internal state cannot be the meaning of life, my internal state can be only a by-product of finding the meaning of life, meaning is always in the world, but pleasure is not in the world, pleasure is in me, it cannot be meaning. frankl has a wonderful metaphor about a boomerang. what is a boomerang? it's a toy that you throw away and it comes back to you. hands? no, actually.

such a tragic situation when we are unable to do anything at all, our capabilities are limited, the last resource

is that we can change our attitude towards this situation. frankol illustrated this with the example of his four-year stay in a nazi concentration camp. so he recalled a situation when, in the evening after the end of the working day, a column of prisoners there under escort returned from their place of work to their home. in a barracks in a concentration camp and shuffling their feet, tired, exhausted, in this situation i imagined that the war was over.

and this gives, gave strength to withstand, to preserve oneself, to maintain some kind of hope, to remain stable in general, to ultimately survive, and frankol wrote that it seemed that the greatest chances of surviving in the concentration camp were not those who were the strongest, physically, bodily, and just those who had some kind of meaning, who had something to save their lives for, for whom something was waiting, or at least they believed, there was a chance that someone... or something is waiting, or some important matter, or some people who are still alive or could be alive, and on this, first of all, depended those vital resources that helped people survive and survive in such a seemingly hopeless situation. well, the famous formula, who knows why, will withstand any how? yes, frankol likes to quote this nietzsche formula: whoever knows why to live can

withstand any how. yes, meaning is a very important resource. i can’t resist a delicate question, how is your meaning of life? well , i have a feeling that my life is meaningful, that my life is quite complete, it has a lot to do with it, therefore, well, frankol himself, when he was asked a question in response to the meaning of his life, he said that the meaning of my life is to help other people find the meaning of life, in another version of the answer he agreed that the meaning of life is to look for the meaning of life, because here it is very dangerous to... to find the final meaning of life, to stop, to find it, to write it just on the wall, that the meaning of life is this, because the point is not that there should be very there is a lot of meaning, the meaning must be dynamic and it must move along with life, because if you think about it, the strongest meaning of life, the toughest meaning of life, is found in

fundamentalist terrorists who are ready not only to kill and die, but to kill for their own. but there are bad meanings of life, this is the meaning of life, when the meaning of life is divorced from life itself, this is the example that i just started talking about, this is its meaning, which is hard, it is rigid, and it has already become detached from life, life has moved forward, meaning stands still, meaning can become self-sufficient, in this case, when a person is ready to die to kill, that is, for the sake of the meaning that he learned hard. and which he, which he can no longer question, this meaning, it is like a malignant virus that spreads and which can no longer be eliminated from life, i have already said that meaning is a connection, it is a connection, the connection of things with each other , when when we

extract this meaning from the very structure of life, that’s what tolstoy said, yes, that life itself is primary, and then we must comprehend life. that's when we change this attitude, when the meaning becomes ahead of life, this is where such malignant phenomena can arise, when for the sake of meaning people not only die, but kill, so here’s the second second, what frankol said as an example, yes, the meaning of life is in searching for the meaning of life, that’s not the wrong thing, in order to find it, to stop there, to continue searching so that this process does not end, there is a well-known buddhist saying, look for the buddha, found the buddha, kill the buddha, chi buddha, that is, the point of searching is not to find the answer . there is another anecdote on this topic that can probably be used to finish, yes, guys, what is the meaning of life, what a good question, boy, do you really want to ruin it with an answer. i think it's a wonderful ending. thank you very much, thank you to those who watched and listened to us, may

the power of meaning be with you. i see a dried, scentless flower, forgotten in a book. and now my soul was filled with a strange dream, where it bloomed, when, in what spring, and for a long time it bloomed, plucked by someone, a stranger, a friend or by the hand, placed here, why, in memory of a tender meeting or a fatal separation, or a lonely walk in the silence of the fields , in the shadow of the forest, and alive whether he or she is alive, and now, where is their corner, or have they already withered, like this unknown flower.

hello, this is a podcast 20 years later and we are its hosts alexander anatolyevich and konstantin mikhailov. hello, dear friends, today we have a wonderful guest, singer, composer, musician, may i say. in our glowing cube, i think that you are probably the only one, well, it’s so bright that you definitely became popular thanks to the internet, just by yourself, without any production, without any team around, i just took it myself, shot a video literally on my knees, wrote a song, the most powerful hityar who just killed everything, i remember, i was crazy, i worked at a radio station at the time, they sent me a link, watch it quickly, i watch it, and it’s like- then it was phenomenally hooked, there

’s a little bit of the spirit of kusturica, well, this is a mega balkan vigil, yes, super humor, super creativity, and i recently found out that you are an artist, that this is a markhi finish, yes, i’m a markhi finish, that is, an architect, in general , but naturally we had many different artistic disciplines, drawing, painting, sculptures and so on, we decided that i had a direct path there, although i had already graduated from music school at that time, and after music school i played a piano, i began to play something on the guitar myself, some romances, something... then there and

so on, rock there naturally, civil defense, tsoi, well, everything that we love, well, the complete set, yes the complete set, but that’s what we and i have already begun to shine there at all sorts of parties like backyard school days and yes, high school, but somehow there was no idea that i needed to connect my life professionally with music and - i gladly entered the architectural institute and i am absolutely happy that i graduated from this institute and even worked as an architect for a couple of years, this is an absolutely wonderful profession that surprisingly expands not only my horizons, but i just know a lot, and you know , that there can be different approaches to some different processes, phenomena, and this is very important, it turns out just when you need to throw something away, make a selection, listen, that is, you can see some kind of building what you built is what to be proud of when the project is realized. or

he says to his relatives: i would like some help with the layout of a dacha or an apartment, i say, let me do it for you for free, come on, because my hands are reaching out, now i’ll draw it for you, look, here you have to do this, here, it’s such a thrill to actually design, so, well, i don’t know, maybe someday you’ll design your own house, you really love doing free, free things, i know that you, well, how do you have enough time for this, you collaborate with more than five charitable foundations and always you play flawlessly, well, naturally, well, if you can, it seems to me that this is natural life.

a feeling coming from somewhere there from the spine that for some reason i need to get out of architecture, well, if it’s from the spine, then i definitely need to get out, i always listen to my spine, i recommend it to everyone, that’s why at some point i left the office, although we were all fine there, i, being not yet a very experienced specialist, earned good money, and we were such godfathers of the king, we generally

walked around, we all had fun. it was good, but for some reason i had the feeling that i needed to go somewhere to move forward in this life, and i came to my parents, i say again, i was already a grown boy, my eldest son was already born, i say, you know, maybe i’ll give you a year to depend on me, a little more, they such, yes, of course, of course, how old were you, i was 26, 25-26 years old, then, by the way, everyone was still talking about the internet, at the same time computers had grown to such power that it became possible to record at home multi-track, which was not possible before, even in the second year, for example, we tried, but there was no such thing possibilities, we were able to write a maximum of two channels there, but it didn’t last, and then the bass and quickly, all sorts of household music cards began to appear, and my friends and i also started experimenting with multi-track recording; the actual song of the guitars, half of the first album was recorded by me at home. then in 2006, in the overlay , that is, i simply took a beat of some kind of synthesized bass or some kind of live one on the piano, i played becky’s voices, a live guitar and such a sight to show someone

to someone. i’m excited, and if you’re excited, then you have to do it, naturally, naturally, i’m an ambitious person and i wanted people to like it too, but roughly speaking, it was the next derivative of this whole process, so i started somehow this is to brew this interesting broth, and then suddenly , my friends and i , fortunately, i was surrounded by very creative, always talented people, and my friends and i... shot this video that we were talking about, and uh it also became possible to edit the video on the computer into some kind of run-of-the-mill graphics . returning to my artistic manifestations , i threw some kind of animation there and it turned out to be so lively and truly like nothing else, a wonderful thing, i tested it on my relatives, mom liked it, dad liked it, friends liked it and then my friend seryozha sokolov suggested posting it on youtube, because youtube appeared, which did not exist before, a sensation, well, you were the only one without a group, well roughly speaking, we were a group of friends, there was no

band, p “love for this fan makes a vulnerable woman out of an elderly sadist, my head is in the right place, they told me i can’t watch tv from morning to night, here you go, ranevskaya, tomorrow after the program it’s time, my funeral is going on, the orchestra is playing, instead of my

photograph, a photo is being taken for the poet’s anniversary, each king wears special signs, mark how to recognize the kings, “listen, brothers, the third emperor is with us, pyotr fedorich, this is the captain. mironov, he well, there’s also a captain’s daughter, it’s commendable , my sir, that you’re starting your service from the garrison, oh, how nice for you, such earrings will move even now, be at your best, gentlemen, come to me, now we’re not just quarreling, we’ll forget our own mother ". here you are, grandfathers, a new commander, well, are you silent, or don’t you believe that i am a great sovereign, god knows you, sergei makovetsky, you will still be my wife,

vladimir mashkov, forgive me, people, orthodox, forgive me, in film russian revolt, on friday on... this is a podcast 20 years later, host alexander anatolyevich, konstantin mikhailov, we are visiting, listen, i saw you here in the queen of spades, i was so stunned by your vocals, gorgeous operatic, thank you very much, i am the second or third part of my life, this is a very important question , regarding the voice, no, in the same seventh year. on a memorable one, and my childhood friend is an academic pianist, we played something, i just sang arilensky there, somehow she listened to me, you have a voice, you need to study, and i say, well, what to study, i know how and i met with a wonderful chapedagogue, irina vanna mukhina, she had a small studio in a cultural center, and

i began to go there, became interested in vocals, entered the merslyakov school, then academic vocals, then studied there for 2 years, gave up, then after another 2 years, after i entered gnesenka for a year also to study academic vocals, and this is kind of my kind of thing... i even went to competitions, this was already after the guitar, yes, yes, yes, but at some point, several years ago, i realized that i’m still used to singing into a microphone in a big hall, well, sort of another alignment of the music of the vocal apparatus, yes, and i understand that i’m not healing, you said, this is the third stage, which means if we are talking about music, the first stage is guitars, the third stage is opera singing, opera vocals, the second - this is when you decided in 2012 that you needed to try something less ironic, which... which was more serious, but it was not an opera yet, yes, well, roughly speaking, at some point, probably, in many groups this it happens when you gain a certain popularity, and let’s say, your first album is there and there are the first one and a half albums, they fill the entire concert in time, and roughly speaking, you

don’t have to do anything further, and you can just scratch these 15 or 20-30 songs until retirement, and that’s it, and you have money, everything is fine, people know what they want because the joy of recognition is still like that. one of the main magnets at a concert for people, but do you feel a certain dead end? yes, i felt this impasse, we quarreled even with my friends, but what a year it was, the twelfth, so we went on an aerovid in the tenth, then somehow i realized that i need to move somewhere to the side, again, because i’m just turning into karoki, roughly speaking, i can go out, stand, and people will sing themselves, well, on the one hand, on the other hand, on the other hand, it’s really boring, and therefore misfortune and i began to move somewhere in the fifteenth year, a wonderful big story arose... very important for me, this is a performance in the russian academic youth theater northern odyssey, directed by ekaterina granitova, script by absolutely brilliant screenwriters lutsik and samoryadov, it was a big musical story that

went on for 6 years, we played there live as a band, the actors sang there, and there i managed to expand my musical horizons in terms of literature, because somewhere we had some kind of free jazz, somewhere something ambient, it had to be filled in there, it should be there. then it’s as if 15 verses are skipped, as usual in a song, you know, it’s

endless, and there’s some kind of sad ending about what it means she didn’t love him and he went somewhere, listen, but i’m going far, this is a song , this is a song that was specially composed i was there for this performance, and we searched for a long time. in fact , the time signature there is constantly changing, all the musicians, when they come, they see notes and such, and what a horror, god, here there are five, here 10, here six, here again 10, here there are four, so she’s like this quite tricky, it became such a general leitmotif of this performance at the beginning at the end, so i admit that this, well , naturally i adore guitars, but this is my favorite song performed by you, i’m very glad, because it’s something different , more lyrical, more like folk, russian-folk like that.

i'm going far as performed by peter nalich in the podcast 20 years later. i’m going far, easily, easily, i should take someone, i should take someone with me, but there’s no one, there’s no one, i’m going far, easily, easily. so he would

have taken me, so he would have taken me with him, no, i’m neither him, no i’m neither him, what is this? a song across the river, who is singing it with me, somewhere across the river, somewhere across the river,

まなせ なこれ て '

we continue the conversation, this is a podcast 20 years later, we are its host alexander anatolyevich, and konstantin mikhailov, our guest, let's talk about eurovision, what do you remember, but you somehow slipped through, and this was a big preparatory moment, it turned out that there was one woman who liked what we were doing, and , that she worked there somewhere a long time ago in germany, she suddenly wrote that you know, there’s a competition going on, you’re a pop group, here’s a pop song competition, but we’ve never even heard of this competition and what’s up this is generally the case, you just need to send an application, she sent me such a link, we were like, well , let’s send it, they tell us, according to the terms of the task, the song should not be published

anywhere, that is, it’s absolutely fresh, we had three sketches there, two more moving ones and one just this sad ballad like that style of the sixties, as it was called lost and forgotten, well, of course we also think, we probably need something fun, something is needed, yes, but we want to win and yes, but we understand that the fun ones are absolutely not ready these compositions, but they are ready only now this lost and forgotten, we are like this, it looks like this is a stroke of destiny, let’s go there, that means, the name is so optimistic.

we’ll try to sing it well, and whether we’ll be appreciated or not will be appreciated, well, that’s how it will be, of course, you always want to win if you’re already participating in some kind of competition, but that wasn’t the defining moment, let’s remind you what the place was in the end, the eleventh, and you were upset, we proudly told each other that we had almost completed the top ten, we closed the door behind us, and i know, there’s still no

i later said in one interview that we had repeatedly won in evrez, i decided that we just need to create a myth, because myth, as you know, is more accurate than reality and more capacious, especially in our time, everything connected with eurovision, especially more of a myth, since we’re talking about musical competitions, let’s also talk about sports competitions, in the eighth year you became the official musical support of the russian team at the olympics, you were in china, how it was, again it was a lot of fun, we had a great time, such a refrain, well, we’re all there for a while they walked, walked, drank, had fun. we ate peking duck, tried to learn chinese in a very funny way, at some point we even learned a few phrases and , as it seemed to us, from these flowing intonations, which, in my opinion, there are four types in the chinese language, we learned something say, we are so happy, we come to the market and there, here they are so, their eyes light up with

happiness, they understand, oh, the european knows chinese, they also answer us, we understand that we made a mistake, because then it’s like this, then just on the numbers on the phone. a long time ago, i announced your band on stage many times, all the time i wanted to ask casually how many languages ​​you know, or at least superficially to communicate, well , i have more or less decent english, let’s say decent basic italian, all the vocals we learned italian in the freezing area we learned there italian was a must for all operas.' well, we already understood chinese, i learned one phrase from chinese, yes, but unfortunately, which of the balkan languages ​​did not, so i even actually, in bosnia, in the homeland of my grandfather , there was never a second one, although at some point, when i went to eurovision, relatives from there began to write to me, there were some nephews, some - my dad’s cousin, very nice people , no,

they are generally very nice, they just said, if anything comes, we will be glad to see you, here’s what we love, what will we say now, if they tell you that now you have a choice, unravel, then you should only do this, what will it be ? writing music for performances, singing with a symphony orchestra, or singing with a band, or architecture, it’s hard to say, you know, because of course i adore it, that is , writing is an absolutely necessary part of me, as long as there is courage, there is some kind of gunpowder, i will do it, but i worked very hard to sing well for a long time and... and often it works out, so of course, i also can’t imagine my life without it, again, these are some different modes of the general human condition, i don’t know the soul there and organism together, because when you you sing, and the audience and this adrenaline excitement before the concert, it’s like a whole story that you live through every time, it’s cool, because it...