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conventionally called zero, but nevertheless it is already working, and a huge number of people, well, just an incredible number of people, by the way, i talked, now i had time, met with the program director of roscongress, the organizer of the st. petersburg forum itself, and i say, this is what would be for you would be or will become an indicator, a parameter of the success of the event this year, he says, and he can already say, because next year, for the twenty-fifth, we have about 70% of the area at the st. petersburg international economic forum... for all kinds of stands, they have already, so to speak, been booked, purchased, and so on, well, isn’t this an indicator, so to speak, of success, what else? there are a lot of stands, very colorful, interesting, varied, naturally, the first thing i did was look in, well , it turned out to be just a stand - that means the russian boxing federation, i hit the punching bag, satisfied, i moved on, but i saw the stands, well, i really need to repeat there, a huge number, that’s all very interesting, probably impossible to even get around in a day. but i'll try,
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the stand of the lugansk people's republic of me they made me eat two ice creams, i ate them for you, friends, that’s good, i liked it, at the donetsk stand of the donetsk people’s republic they gave me a gift, well, there’s a lot of things, including a brochure about the investment attractiveness of the region, well, i repeat, there are a lot of people, all of them -they are very, how to say, so energetic with a good mood, everyone’s faces are lit, their eyes are smiling, well, somehow everything is very, very good. plus the weather in st. petersburg, well, look, it’s just something incredible, not st. petersburg, well, in general, so far everything is good, we were lucky with the weather, we were lucky with the guests, who are there many of them, and what are they talking on the sidelines, did you manage to communicate with foreigners, what do they expect and , of course, is the topic of the so-called isolation of russia hovering, especially against the backdrop of a record-breaking the number of participants in the st. petersburg forum, this is a good, good question, but... ruslan,
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with all due respect, he, he is so too obvious, because everyone, of course, jokes about isolation, everyone takes pictures there, well, that’s just how people walk and take pictures with each other other huge companies, including such companies, everyone naturally immediately jokes that isolation and isolation, isolation on the march, on the march, and isolation, well, everything here is permeated, of course, with a feeling of complete isolation, well listen, there are several ministers here, still the same the program director of roscongress told me that several dozen ministers will be here, yes, they are expected to speak, in my opinion. the president of bolivia, the deputy prime minister of vietnam, and so on and so forth, a very large number of people, a huge number of businessmen who, naturally, you ask, what are they expecting, well, naturally, businessmen are expecting some kind of signing of some documents, some kind of agreements, for cooperation, for work, i repeat, everything here is permeated with this ironic feeling, so to speak isolation, of course, in quotes and bullying, everyone is discussing, by the way, uh, this removal from the flight, you probably also discussed this or are going to discuss it.
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interesting, so friends, don’t switch, why did i say about lunch, here you have ice cream for before the information wars, it seems to me that there will be breakfast, try the stand, for lunch tell us at which stand they will offer something appropriate for this time of day, thank you very much, anatoly kuzichev, we are waiting for new inclusions, well, anatoly alexandrovich touched on the topic... scottara , who was suddenly
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removed from the plane, and thus banned, it means, in a country where, well, i don’t know, the principle is promoted in every possible way. st. petersburg economic forum, it means that not only was it taken off the flight, but another person, a citizen of the united states, had his passport taken away in the united states. the reason, of course, is scottarir’s attempt to cross the border to end up in russia, this is what scott ritter himself said about what happened. the us government removed me from the flight and'.
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why they removed scottar is also understandable, precisely because what anatoly was talking about, yes, isolation, because russia is ma’am, in fact, in the united states of america, they prove to their citizens that russia is in isolation, they they write a lot about this articles, they have a lot of speeches, biden finally announced it, said that everything there is torn to shreds, that you can tear a dollar for 200 rubles, but that ’s him too? 2 years ago he announced that popular video bloggers come to america and show what in quotation marks insulation really looks like, and how much the ruble costs, and what is shown at these stands, and how many foreign guests are here and what kind of
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exotic things they offer us in general, this is of course for united states of america, for external the politicians of the united states of america and their state department are a blow to the gut, so they want this one. and if, for example, as you think, i had this question, if takir carlson wanted to fly to the st. petersburg economic forum, they would risk doing the same thing to him as i think they would risk doing to scott, that is, now they really are, especially on the eve of their anniversary events for nato, and during the biden election campaign, a very difficult campaign, especially against the backdrop of the fact that...
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a situation where freedom is recorded, and now we ask, i think that here scott ritter was a mow in the throat not only for the state department, which often brought together. all american lies, he exposed the living statements of biden and the pentagon, the un security council, but the question, in my opinion, was really posed correctly, because scott ritter for a long time was the main information caliber who fronted, who opposed the american government, why- then they didn’t take him, he came here many times to moscow, performed on our dear...
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when a country that declares freedom of speech, freedom of movement begins to show force, but from a media point of view, resort to the methods that were used in soviet times, actively criticized by western propaganda, radio liberty and so on, which are now recognized as foreign agents, this is indeed a manifestation of such a very serious weakness, and i will even say that the americans. scott ritter was not allowed to leave the united states of america, that's their way
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a silent recognition that the activities carried out by scott ritter are useful, they are effective, his opinion is listened to, at the same time, this is a recognition that the st. petersburg economic forum really attracts a huge number of guests and is a very important event in general in the international political arena here now, therefore... understanding that this is a very serious weakness on the part of washington, if it took such a step, we need to perceive this as, i don’t know, but words of recognition of our success, yeah, what a reaction maybe in american society? but here it’s really difficult to say, due to the fact that, on the one hand, scott-treater really has a very serious information potential, but on the other hand, the entire american information machine is a cat, a real information skating rink. it is currently directed against russia and against any ideas that it is possible
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and necessary to negotiate with russia, because of this , the americans will clearly go there through their key media, which we repeatedly mention here, creating an information vacuum regarding this situation, more than a day has passed and not a single article on this topic has been published, so i am afraid that the american society will simply not be aware of what the american authorities. you will die in the forest and your mad bear will eat you, stop, it’s filmed, ranevskaya, watch
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treat this freely, your exhibition should perform the same function as a speech politics, so it must be addressed to a specific viewer, a specific group and produce some kind of result. clothes are one of the optimal means of self-expression, but in everyday life people rarely take advantage of this opportunity, the family began to think, how can i do the
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same to enliven my own graphics. i took records from all my friends. knows that russia needs to take troops, go somewhere outside the city, become some kind of camp, but the conspirators themselves were unable to clearly formulate what the plan was, nikolai understood the dilemma well, they want to make me a tyrant or a coward, who is this person, the one who broke the neck of the reforms, or the person who saved from bloodshed, and this famous question that the emperor asked pushkin, what would you do if on december 14
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, 1925, you found yourself in st. petersburg, pushkin before senate square and pushkin after - it... made me happy, it’s impossible to believe it, we live in the 21st century, my address was addressed to a lot of loud statements, all these accusations - it was pure lie. kostya, so strong man, i don’t know how he managed to pull himself together, well, in general, he reassured me, they let an employee of the prosecutor’s office into the room
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of the side jurors, which no one has the right to enter, when the jurors left, she gave herself away. one young girl who cried when her dad was convicted. russian pilot yaroshenko, goodbye america, premiered on sunday on the first. three chords, new season, on sunday on the first. the information channel on the first continues, we work live. on-air president of the united states, joseph biden arrived on a state visit to france, where he intends to take part in solemn commemorative events on the occasion of the eightieth anniversary of the allied landings in normandy, hold talks with emmanuel macron, and naturally, at these negotiations one issue will be raised about providing further assistance ukraine, but the united
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states is ready, despite the fact that ukraine is in a complete hole and abyss, he said this. biden's national security adviser jake salevan says america won't help intends to stop. according to him, no one should give up, just like the united states; america, ahead of the rest, intends to announce new military assistance to ukraine. kiev found itself in a deep hole due to delays in arms deliveries, but the arrival of weapons in recent weeks is changing the situation on the battlefield. you can expect announcements regarding further deliveries to ukraine in the coming weeks. joe biden is heading to france, where he intends to take part in commemorative events on the occasion of the eightieth anniversary of the allied landings in normandy, as well as hold talks with president emmanuel macron. biden will be able to meet with...
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if we ever allow ukraine to fail, mark my words, you will see poland go away, and you will see all these countries along russia's de facto border, from the balkans and belarus, get together to act on their own , that’s why we cannot allow the collapse of nato, we need to strengthen it politically and economically, as well as militarily, in which we invest significantly, sometimes we want re-read these words and whether this was really published, yes indeed he...
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it’s interesting that on the question of whether the americans allow ukraine to hit ukraine with western weapons on the territory of russia, there is still complete confusion there, so kirby declares that some there were never any restrictions at all, but the former commander of the us army in europe, general ben hodges, has a completely different opinion. “washington prohibited kiev from launching atacoms missile attacks on russian territory due to excessive fear that russia would somehow will lead to an escalation of the conflict. for
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the united states, the priority remains control over the escalation of the situation in ukraine. but in general , americans have no illusions about ukraine, according to journalists from the publication forms, not f16 fighters, with it, any other military supplies to ukraine, well, they are not able to achieve." with russia, kap planning bombs are a miracle weapon for the russians , ukrainians have virtually no defense against them, ukrainian troops may not be able to defend against russian glide bombs, but they can strike back with their own their own glide bombs, but the ukrainians clearly do not have enough bombs themselves, it is unlikely that ukraine's allies provide more than a few hundred glide bombs per month, perhaps only a tenth of the bombs... that ukraine will need to match the russian air force power. russia is bombing uaf positions not because it has more fighters, but because it produces
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many, many more bombs. and zelensky’s adviser, mikhail podalyak, is the smartest, because the rest are even dumber says there are no red lines for ukraine at all. all of yesterday's red lines are gone. everything that seemed unthinkable yesterday is already reality. escalation? yes. yes, there are only two things that you need to finally accept for yourself: first, ukraine needs a comparable volume of weapons, high-precision, to compensate for the russian quantity, there is no other way, second - the speed of decision-making in war, everything must be done quickly, any delay - this is always the path to increasing the cost of war; real peace cannot be guaranteed by any means in any other way, except for the obligatory military defeat of russia. there is simply a rhyme here that this american permissiveness to ukraine can...
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but i will answer you not in an academic way, how we can surprise you, but first of all surprise you with strategy, tragedy, a decisive changeable strategy that will allow us to take full control of considerable territories, completely donetsk, lugansk people's republic, zaporozhye and kherson, odessa and nikolaevskoe, this is what we must surprise the world, without looking back at any cries there from the west or from kyiv. we can surprise with the use of new weapons, we have them, they are produced at a stakhanov pace, in large quantities, and we are now building up
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our weapons production. what else can we surprise? we can, of course, surprise in the end with strikes on kiev, because people are already starting to, you know, make a little scurrilous comments about how many times they promised strikes on the decision-making center, but we didn’t always do it loudly, not always effective, well, they hit the main intelligence directorate once there, a little missed, i would have been sitting in the wrong toilet. but, unfortunately, people expect more. what else would i like to say? well, of course, we can surprise with the creation of a dense buffer zone, starting from the belgorod region, ending here, on the outskirts of the kharkov region, in order to once and for all raise the question of ensuring that missiles and drones do not fly from there. we have to surprise with this. well, of course, we have to surprise, here about the f-16, we have to
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surprise. defeat of those f-16s that ukraine expects to take part in military air operations, we owe this to surprise, to surprise, first of all, by the fact that to hit them on distant approaches, well, i think, i think that we may have to make such a decision when we have to strike at the airfields of neighboring ukrainian states, this can also happen. i do not exclude this option, as vladimir vladimirovich said, we will act according to the circumstances in answering this question. we often talk about crossing red lines, one of these red lines is the legitimacy of president zelensky, whom the west is happy with, he suits them, they they are trying in every possible way to keep him in power, so they came up with a scheme to prove to the ukrainians and the whole world that zelensky’s expiration date has not yet expired, although
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one of the founders of the public organization against the chairman of the supervisory board, who is retired british army colonel glen grant. well, actually, this plan has already begun to be implemented, a lawsuit has been filed, alex serik himself posted the relevant documents on his social networks and boasted of this fact to his subscribers. in general, it has become such a thing to think through scenarios that lead to a bad, sad ending.
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this is spelled out in the constitution, the only body in the country that has the right to interpret the constitution is the constitutional court, why am i asking everyone why zelensky, realizing that in principle he can probably put pressure on the constitutional court, does not appeal there, because he he himself trampled this constitutional court, you remember, in the first year of his reign, even before the start of the svo, he saw something that was inconvenient for himself
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the decision of the constitutional court was issued by the king. when he himself trampled this constitutional body, i emphasize, the only one, again, he is put in such a dead end when yes, he can make a decision of the district court, the supreme court, you see, without these decisions the united states says: no, no, you, you are constitutional, yes, everything is fine, everything is fine, but notice, at the same time , articles appear in leading american magazines, yes, including the mouthpieces of ideological economists, the same time that you quoted, yes, by the way , a he has...
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biden, how is this so? poland and other countries, neighbors, means that russia will allow itself independence, but wow, this is how he will act with ukraine accordingly. podalaka joins our conversation. ivanovich, hello, medvedchuk’s article describes this scheme, of course, you simply, besides being a military expert, lived there for many years, understand their psychology, the people there, it seems to me, how can i explain this? healthy society that the decisions of the constitutional court no, he didn’t apply there, he doesn’t intend to apply, he can cancel it by his decree, here is the decision of some district court, or rather the refusal to accept the claim, this will be
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an explanation of its legitimacy for the whole world, this is how it works in their heads, you know , in the minds of ukrainians i’m still pretty good, maybe i haven’t lived there for a long time, 10 years, but nevertheless i’m not bad at this, i hope. i understand, then, i think, now the legitimacy of any government is not determined by any laws. in fact, there was legality in ukraine even before the maidan the concept is quite arbitrary, i can compare russian reality with ukrainian reality and until the fourteenth year the issue of circumventing the law, etc. in ukraine , it was all an order of magnitude simpler and was used more often than someone uses and happens on the territory of russia, these are extremely rare cases, so that’s where it was before ’14, it was still normal, but after ’14 , no one ever bothers with this, inside ukraine, there will be court decisions, there will be no court decisions, this gives zelensky legitimacy in the eyes the population will not change at all, but
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the word will not change at all, this is all work on the external circuit, that is, the task is to prove to other countries that there is a legitimate president with whom they can and should deal, because after the statement of our president... about the fact that we don’t consider zelensky to be the president, now i’m tired, the west has become a very bad situation , and what to do next, what if they obviously want to record some of their achievements in ukraine, and accordingly, in order to do this, they will have to early or it’s too late to bring the ukrainian authorities to the negotiating table, and russia has already said that this is a scarecrow, no one will talk to it at all, because it’s not clear what it is, somehow for...
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of course not, there may well be people among the journalists who will ask uncomfortable questions, let's look at the united states of america, where the same biden is now often asked very uncomfortable questions, in the european environment, many people have questions for zelensky, because he has pushed their countries into completely unnecessary europeans confrontation with russia, an increasing number of journalists are asking uncomfortable questions about ukraine, so there may be such questions among journalists, and accordingly such articles may appear. but among officials, of course, this will not happen, well, all this directly
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affects the course of hostilities, because the illegitimate zelensky is very convenient for the west, because he agrees to everything, and he understands this perfectly well, what they can do from him today survive on the battlefield? you know, zelensky’s illegitimacy actually affects us hand, why? because for an increasing number of the population of ukraine, i will not say that for the majority, but for an increasing number of the population of ukraine... zelensky’s illegitimacy is a reason not to listen to zelensky, that is, not to obey his orders, taking into account the fact that in parallel with this, now there is a total mobilization in the country of everything that moves the male gender, although it is possible that it will spread to women, yes, and people thus have for themselves an increasing number of people internal justification, why they are against, why they actively against, why they run away and so on, that is, in this way knocking out legitimacy from... zelensky, of course, plays in
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our favor, including on the battlefield, because fewer men get caught, receive machine guns, despite all the attempts of the trade center to drive the entire population of the country there, and accordingly makes it easier for our troops to carry out their tasks, as it were, on the battlefield, and how is the situation now in the north of the kharkov region, many write that taking into account the fact that they have been transferred there... reserves were transferred from in other directions, in other directions we are now having more and more successes every day, is that true? indeed , they have deployed, well , at least the best unit of uavs to the kharkov direction, now the armed forces have uavs - this is the main type of armed forces, which generally determines the stability of units on the battlefield, that is, infantry and so on, without uav cover no attacking actions take place, well, because they don’t have large aviation, without cover - uavs, the defense of any
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borders is now impossible for enemy, hence the transfer there of the best units, not only those birds of maidar and maidyar and others too, but it says that for the enemy this is the most important key moment, and indeed they tried to go on the offensive, transferred many good brigades there, but for now i think and they won’t succeed further, this is already visible, already obvious, moreover, yesterday there was an attack on the ptahamdars, the magyars, that is... their location, apparently, was covered quite well, but nevertheless, this also a big blow for not only is it not the only one, it also destroys bridges and so on, in other directions this actually has a very good effect, first of all yesterday, for example, we had a lot of success in the ugledarsky sector, where our troops not only completely drove - populated the poroskovievka point essentially went north, they are literally located side by side on the north-eastern outskirts of konstantinovka, but again along the fields and along...
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that is, there are three such important advances forward in one section - that’s quite a lot for one day, well, in other directions, and the enemy also admits this, they have a difficult situation in the pokrovsk direction, where our troops continue to move in the south-south area, it turns out that for the east-southwest i already apologize for the queue, the settlement of sokol, novopetro, novopokrovka , novoselovka first, yasnobrodovka, offensive actions are taking place everywhere, again taking. nitailov, we have essentially already begun the battles for karlovka, well, so far this is purely good work
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by aviation and artillery, however, we can say that the battles have also begun for karlovka, in the north, this is north of the toretsk section, here is novoalleksandrovka, our troops have already entered the populated area quite well and have moved, most importantly , north towards kalinov, that is , there begins such a breakthrough of the last defense on the heights that the enemy has, i hope it will end successfully then for our troops... it will be easier to move on here, well, according to the clock , there are also small tactical successes, that is , everywhere the enemy does not have enough reserves, we see this on the battle line contact. thank you very much, yuri ivanovich podalyaka, he was with us directly. well , it becomes obvious that fewer and fewer ukrainians want to fight with russia, this is the opinion expressed by the head of the kiev bureau of the publication, andru kramer, in the podcast of the new york times on youtube. well, here it is worth noting that if this kramer were ukrainian, for these words, he would have long ago gone to jail as a russian agent. fewer and
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ukrainian field commanders are reported to be compensating for the training difficulties that mobilization has exacerbated by training recruits immediately on the front line, the decision to train recruits on the front line before sending them into battle indicates that the overall quality of ukrainian troops is likely to remain higher than the russian troops are in...
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ukraine has exhausted free mobilization options with armor, which have become essentially not... the overdue president, who decided to sit on the throne until the end, the rating continues fall and is already 15%. this is not surprising, because since the 9th year, zelensky has managed to do almost the impossible: reduce the country’s population by half, completely lose sovereignty, lose a quarter of its territories, destroy the last democratic institutions, turn ukraine into a proxy of the west, and ruin the agricultural industry. a person who buries, but at the same time continues to live, that’s why zelensky is doing great, burying ukraine together with
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the ukrainians, he continues to live, alone, alone, he probably wants to be like that stay, but here’s the question, evgeniy viktorovich, look. we are talking, quoting the words of boris johnson to the last ukrainian, yes, this phrase, of course, has already become boring to many, it no longer sounds as intimidating as it sounded before, but nevertheless, this last ukrainian, in fact, is already today , yes, we see that they don’t want to fight, we see that they are as healthy as an ox, which means that the medical examination already sounds like sentences for them, they don’t know what to do about it, are the ukrainians running out or are they already finished? and ukrainian patience is it over or not? i think that the patience of the ukrainians has already run out, if they were ready to continue to support zelensky, they would... would not resist forced mobilization so much, by the way, i was very pleased with the phrase in quotes from american
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analysts from the institute for the study of war, about that the ukrainian army, precisely in terms of the quality of its composition, will apparently be better than the russian one, well, apparently, when the tskashniks are knitting the next conscript to be sent to the front line, this is also such an element of training and preparation, but speaking seriously, i think that...
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sometimes one gets the feeling that the americans are preparing zelensky to make a decision on the mobilization of citizens starting at the age of 18, well , they say that’s what blinkin came with, in fact, there, after which he will be safely dismissed as unpopular, undesirable, perhaps the americans will change power in kiev, then they will already remember that he is illegitimate, that he did not hold elections, that he broke the law, that he actually usurped power, well...
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i looked at the pentagon’s data on how many ukrainian military personnel were killed and wounded, and they agree on the figure of 500,000, what does that say? this says that we have already virtually destroyed or put out of action, to put it mildly , two ukrainian armies, you know, when they start conscripting pregnant women, those with cancer, typhus, they are not conscripting pregnant women yet, wait, don’t rush.
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but look what is happening in the depths of the ukrainian people themselves, yes, we have not yet seen half a million demonstrations demanding the resignation of zeleny, but you see how little by little it is boiling in that other one, the people are boiling, you see, he no longer tolerates such a barbaric attitude towards himself, when they will put him in the back of the head for slaughter, now there is a short advertisement,
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for art, children really like it. podcast lab, today on the first. we were waiting for zoya zelinskaya in this studio for her birthday in december, but filming was postponed. she promised that she would definitely come when she felt better. on april 29 at 7 am she passed away. the last thing she told us, guys, go home, rest, go, take a walk, you're tired. and it was 94 years old, and with it the whole era of the satire theater passed away, a part of our life passed away, when the streets were dying out, from what people collected. watch tv screens zucchini 13 chairs courted me, he took me in a taxi, and now we travel by tram, zoya zelinskaya also had
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erotic talent, she started out as a fashion model, was not afraid of... frank things, beautiful, strong, self-sufficient , why did zoya zelinskaya settle her ex-husband with her, my mother and i took him from the hospital, our exclusive - the last interview with zoya zelinskaya, which we managed to record at the home of the people's artist of russia, my husband died, i had a small child, and my car was stolen, so i think, luck, a child, a tavern, a theater, i'm going crazy, what do i do something, exclusive with dmitry borisov, premiere on saturday on the first. you don’t need to read 200 volumes about russia or attend one concert of the berezka ensemble. the audience keeps saying, well, that’s how they are, they don’t walk, they float, it’s always a mystery, and it’s your secret, and it’s not revealed secretly,
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folk character dance in the form in which we teach... naturally it’s a scandal, it’s a nightmare, it’s screams, now we just remember goosebumps, and of course. i said yes, birch tree, beauty in russian, on sunday on the first, the story of its incarnation, the blockbuster of the first channel, the union of salvation, for some reason the decembrists thought that they knew better than the emperor what russia needed, take
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my god, how many years have passed. unit on the move, fire in a residential building. hello, tamara vitalna. i think that oleg has already forgiven me. i haven't forgiven. and i won't forgive you. oleg, i need your help. duty officer, outsiders in the unit. it happened, it was because of her, yes, leave him alone, it’s clear, we love each other, let’s mind your own business, this is vojta, in russian, after all, i left for finland, already pregnant and not i began to tell him nothing, and that social services, they took me away, i was accused of
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suffocating maternal love, he was taken from me because i... loved him, one chance for three, premiere from june 10, on the first, oleg, i need you to come with me to finland, claim your rights to your son, why, here’s your son, one of the most tense sections of the front remains the kharkov direction; reserves from the rear are constantly being pulled there in su from other sectors.
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contact, and this is both in the literal and figurative sense, since overboard has already exceeded 30°, imagine how it is for our guys who... in uniform, in bulletproof vests, with full ammunition, and i know this from myself, it’s very, very difficult when the temperatures are so high, and what’s true, the truth is under 40, yes, andrey vitalievich, because i listened to the forecast this morning, he says, there in lugansk it’s 37-40°, maybe that’s right, we already feel it ourselves, it’s not yet, say, lunch time, well, there’s a little left here, but the thermometer has already exceeded 36°. this is in lugansk, well, perhaps in kharkov, not far from us, the temperature is the same, imagine, yes, how the guys now have to fight, and the intensification of hostilities there has been observed since
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the 28th, i followed this direction very closely, the ukrainian command apparently decided to make the main point here on the line of combat contact, they sent a huge amount of reserves there, pulled together all the best... forces means, and they did it on a regular basis, i want to say right away, in order to, say, stabilize the front line, somewhere on the second of two ukrainian fighters already had enough forces and means to, say, hold back the onslaught of our troops, but they they continue to send troops there with armored vehicles, that is, i can say with full confidence that...
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note, i’m watching what’s happening there, they used really old soviet tactics, there was full-fledged fire training, there was a fire raid, including including all forces, means, even aviation, the guys said that they saw helicopters and planes, well, naturally they did not fly close to the line of combat contact, but that is, the ukrainian command threw everything they could there - hoping that to at least somehow hold it off.
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