still, i understand this moment, that now my son is seven, my daughter is five, and at the age of 12 they will tell me, mom, close the door, come out, and this moment just really scares me, i’m just thinking about the fact that i actually have very little time left, that is, i had 7 years that i didn’t use, now, well , i used it, but not as effectively as i would like, yes, but it’s important here too there is a trap so that you don't knock on their door when they tell you... it will say, they didn't say, i'm on i’ve put you here for so many years, yes, i gave it to you, it’s worth doing it just for yourself, to feel like a mother, to be a mother for yourself, and not for them, to try this quality, to try this part of life, and at the same time, agree with your spouse, your business partner, that for these 7 years you perform there 80% maternal function, 20% business partner function, then this can change if you want, and maybe you will give birth to a third one time, no one knows.

that with my eldest son, it seems to me that i can read in my eyes, because i’m just wondering why you said this, you missed out on some kind of pleasure, probably motherhood, because i didn’t really enjoy it, so honestly, i’m thinking, why at all, why, well, i was 22 years old, and i’m kind of like a business kid here, all this somehow at the same time, in the end, now i want a third one for...

sites that i really want to directly outline and somewhere in a visible place, so as not to forget, this is so important review the algorithm for yourself, write it down, right, yes, thank you, i think it was an interesting conversation, you watched the lab triggers podcast, its hosts were with you, psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, our guest was lyubov, and we too we talked today about how to find balance.

between the desire to achieve success, raising children, the role of a mother, the role of a business woman, it seems to me that we found a lot of interesting things in this conversation, which will certainly be useful for the audience if you want to become a participant our program to ask questions that concern you, then you can fill out a form on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. by the way, i recently found out that there is a traveler’s stone, oh well, yes, i recently entered into some kind of stupor, it happened to me that i was afraid of flying away, a friend told me that you need to buy a traveler’s stone and you will not be afraid, i listened to so much about it that i forgot about my aerophobia, i read so much that it was as if i had already bought it, and it was as if i already had it in my touring backpack, somehow it tuned me in. everyone

hello, this is a podcast and i’m tatyana gevarkyan. diamonds are a girl's best friend, or so marilyn munro sang in 1953 . how has the attitude towards jewelry changed in our time? today our guests are singer olga seryabkina and jewelry stylist yuliana kotsoeva. here is ol, and today i am minimalist. just completely practically, well, by the way, i’m not on purpose, how important this is for you, well, taking into account the fact that i’m also an artist, not just a person who can, can ignore this topic, yes, well, now, for example, i really like the generally minimal, light touch with jewelry, but almost all the jewelry left my wardrobe, went to girlfriends, friends and even to the children of my girlfriends, practically... not i use,

i like a minimum of jewelry, although i am the one who simply put on everything, i don’t know, i had, well... almost like african women, i understand perfectly what you are talking about, i had a story, i hosted one big concert with my friend, who is quite a well-known tv presenter, but she is cool, a very good professional presenter, we have neighboring dressing rooms, and in principle at that time i adhered to minimalism, that is, i have some kind of evening dress and some minimal jewelry, she comes to into my jacket and says: well , how are you ? earrings, some beautiful ones, like clusters of stones, elbow-length bracelets, rings, and we are standing next to her, looking in the mirror, i say, well

, it’s clear, we are like a princess and a maid, now we will go on stage, and she looks like that, says: listen, i’m missing something, i i say, in the sense that you are missing something, she says, well, yes, so she reaches out to... the bird , rummages through her jewelry, puts on a tiara and says: now, now everything is in order, and this is really how she feels i felt this organically, so i’m wondering how to choose the right jewelry wardrobe for myself, where are these edges today in 24, it seems to me that the main thing is for a person to feel comfortable, because i’m like olga, too, there is such a day, i get up. i only have one wedding band, and i put on at most a couple of small earrings, and i feel so good, calm, and i, i’m just comfortable, and there is a day like this, i can be nervous, i can go somewhere, that’s the same some kind of protection, well , it seems to me so, well, tell me about your maximum, oh, well, this is the maximum body kit you have what, well, this is multi-layering in the neck, it’s from

the choker that i get jewelry like this, i have a jewelry talisman, these are definitely some things that are never taken off, and you hide the talisman under your clothes, no, i just have it like that fell. i accidentally came across this pendant and i took it, and now i don’t take it off, that is, there are some talismans that i always wear, this pendant, a couple of rings in my ears and one here, and sometimes, for example, today i was a little worried and i need, for example, obsidian, this is my favorite stone, i rub it a little like this when i’m worried, that is, i need it today, damn it, i need to wear it, for example, this is how it turns out, that’s how it all works out, this is how it all turns out. there are also many stones, a stone of love, a stone against, when, for example, a person wishes you some kind of anger or slanders something on you, if, for example, you put on a black stone, an agate bead, then everything that the person says bad things, everything comes back to him, this, by the way, is also like that, you need to be more careful with people who stones, yes, sterling silver is also

very protective, sterling, and how is it different, i have a piece of jewelry, it’s just like that, someone thinks that it’s sterling silver against the evil eye, it’s just very strong in energy, these are the dutch ones, the amsterdam ones, these ones... energy, i read all this, i really like it, but you definitely need to carry this stone on yourself, or i just remember that there were stones that you just carry with you in your purse, in your pocket, yes in a pocket, which you can just put in a pocket, you can use it as a decoration, you can put a hole in a bead somehow, i heard a lot of stories from my friends about rose quartz, that it brings love, reveals femininity, it really has something to do with it, i’m not asking if it’s true ? but i have one story with rose quartz, one friend just told me that i saw her bracelet made of rose quartz, she says: this is a stone of love, i really want to find my love, i somehow listened to it, and then i think damn, something’s not going well for me, and i was on the passage in kitaigorod, there was a shop where a woman was selling stones, i bought this bracelet and just wore it, wore it, and as they explained to me, i need

to put it on the bedside table at night so that it is charged with energy, then put it on again, then there is a stone that needs to rest, i was wearing it then one day i looked and it became white, transparent, that is, it was just so pink, it became transparent. i started googling and they told me that he gave you strength, gave you energy, and after some time i meet a person with which i have been together for the last day, well, what an amazing story, well, it seems to me that it is connected after all, i would like to believe, good things make sense to believe, but some bad omens, it seems to me, are not worth believing, that is, for example, if you believe in a black cat, then all the time you will receive from this black cat the same cat, just a different color. yes, well, for example, you always know, sometimes you’re driving on the road, when a black cat crosses the road, all the drivers stop, that’s it congestion, traffic jam, because no one wants to pass first, i’m always the person who offends everyone, i think, well, what the hell are idiots, and i always pass and everything is fine,

nothing bad happened to me either that day or the next day happens, is it important to believe in it or does it work autonomously with your sense of trust in this stone or why do you wear it, if it has one? well , i wasn’t skeptical, i did n’t put it on because, well, at least something would help me, no, i just thought, if this is so, it will be cool, i’ll wear it, it seems to me that they work on their own, because when i’m in vladikavkaz, there’s a big mountain there, i very often get an impression from someone, for example , i start an impression about a person, but we

didn’t even have time - with whom - to start a conversation, and i understand, well, this is the energetic message, in principle, the result of the meeting is predetermined as if before you started talking, well, i feel comfortable, cool, in general it seems to me very much and i myself am very interested in chatting to find out in general, maybe i need to rebuild, because i have indeed, also an engagement ring, my favorite... which are just super comfortable and that’s all for today, but tell me about your stage jewelry wardrobe, it also has its own specifics, you also need to ensure that nothing clings to your clothes, otherwise it can do everything it’s going to end badly, it’s true, for example, i really love earrings and before i couldn’t live without big rings, like you, for example, have very bright earrings, but because iliana brought them to me today, they’re very cool, super. but since i wear - uh ears special ones, when you put them on, it’s very

inconvenient ; grills, well , for jewelry on my teeth, that is , i had real jewelry with real real diamonds in my teeth. i even had several of them, but they are removable and such a removable story, but how do orthodontists feel about this? i did it there, that is, conventionally, i made it, and i made casts from gold, here they cast these right in front of me, like real gold gypsy teeth, as if, wait, but gold teeth were the culture of rappers, when they inserted these gold teeth into themselves, apparently i had seen enough of something and wanted the same, but i conditionally had it's like cancer there.

i’ve seen american singers where it’s small , some have a small gap here, i often have a gap, just here is a small diamond that is attached to the other side of the jaw, everything is there on the teeth, and it’s very beautiful, some have a gap, some, well, that’s for me like recently one of my friends told me with delight about a new guy she met, he had a tattoo inside his lip, i have one too.

it’s so interesting to numbers, to dates, to letters and tattoos, i try not to get attached , no, in fact, i always really liked tattoos on other people, naturally literate, beautiful, on myself sometimes i have... thoughts when i have some idea and i want to get this tattoo, because i think that this is also, well, this is a kind of accessory, well, it’s just that accessory that you cannot change, that is, you suddenly want, i don’t know, this cat is not here, but here , or somewhere else, well, i can tell you this right away, they tell me this so often, like you you don’t get tired of them, well, you want something else, why did you do this, then a year later i don’t see her, you don’t notice, she’s like a mole, there’s some kind of birthmark, it’s about... there and there it is, it doesn’t get boring. this podcast is no slouch, and we

continue to talk about jewelry with real jewelry from our studio, jewelry stylist yuliana kotsoeva and singer olga seryabkina. julian, tell us what base a girl should have in order to comfortably and organically fit these jewelry into any of her wardrobe, everyday, business. by the way, the ideal size, it seems to me, these are the very, very average centimeters, probably three of them, i remember myself in the sixth grade, i remember myself now, i always liked rings, and what else about earrings, and about everything in general, here which ones, now in general i really like the asymmetry, i don’t wear the same earrings at all, i get one thing here, another here, in

fact it was like asymmetry, there was a trend once, but i have completely different earrings, it’s now a very common practice to sell single earrings directly. mono and you can already select it as a designer, a lot of brands make designer collections, that is, these are a couple of earrings, the one on your neck is attached to them, yes, this is an earring, this is a pendant, it is attached to a pendant , but then you can replace everything, right there there are special mounts that can be changed from the ear, to the neck, to a belt, to a bag, and it’s very beautiful, it’s what they call it, blackened silver, blackened silver, very beautiful, and blackened silver is now becoming fashionable, this is one of parts of dark fashion, that is, basically everything that goes... it’s all silver with blackening, it’s specially sprayed on top so that it looks even more aged, so gothic, that ’s how it turned out so interesting that dark fashion and gothic fashion suddenly penetrated into popular culture and became something so everyday, well, firstly, we believe that dark fashion is an adornment that has no gender, that is, both men and women

can wear it, it is very convenient, universal, that is, this adornment can be worn by men, yes, well, everything is fashionable. now there is a current, and now you are talking about some kind of piercing, i don’t know some kind in the tongue, in the pubic area, there is simply a piercing that people accept visually, and there is one that is not accepted, that is, for someone it’s neat , for example, a small earring in the nose is okay, a small ring - that’s okay, but when two eyebrows are pierced, well , what is it that happens, that is , it seems to me, it just immediately imitates, well, what we wear cafs, they are all

an imitation of piercing, i’m here too i put it on, yeah, or just to fill it out. well , how often we often work with piercers, but here it is inconvenient to pierce because the ear unfolds, the earring goes back, for this purpose cafs were invented to also fill this part of the ear. olya, did you have a piercing? no, no piercings, no tattoos, you ideal person, i never did, because it seemed to me that it was like a woman’s face, it was very beautiful without any additional, so to speak, accessories, but all this could be done just in cafes, i wore fake ones very often, well, now it’s cafes, yes, it’s on the lip, i wish i wore fake earrings everywhere, ears, and nose, and well, the nose is most likely here in the middle and here on the side, you don’t wear it now, no, it still seems to me that you always have to have keeping in mind how old you are, what status you are in

emotional, first of all, how you feel, but it is very important to be. in harmony, as if with all this together, but don’t you think that this is not the influence of age, but the influence of time, that we are still subject to the influence of trends, of course, i agree, the question now is not about numbers , but rather about the fact that a woman at 20 and a woman at 40 are still different emotional statuses, and here it is very important, well , to move harmoniously from one to the other, i don’t now...

i don’t like everything related to skulls , some bones, that is, the vest is not yours, no, why, but when vivien vest is at the level of very elegant beautiful corsets, or well , she just has unrealistic shapes, yes, she knows how to create, but i just understand what suits me, what it’s beautiful to me, what’s harmonious to me and what i don’t really like, well, let’s say if we take some jewelry. in one brand you can find something ideal and something that doesn’t suit you, even just in size, by the way, jewelry history is also very important size, for example, we take a thread, and there is i even... by the way, i have another piece of jewelry that is not visible, just a red thread, the difference in the thickness of the thread has a big impact on how comfortable it is to wear or how it

suits you, this one seems to just not very comfortable now, but thin, but i feel better with a thin one, can you imagine, it slides out all the time, i constantly tighten it, it moves away, tied, well, that’s it, it goes well, by the way, with any bracelets, yes i had one thread that was very, very means a lot to me... well, something meaning that at that moment somehow resonated with me very much, and they tied this thread to me, it was a bracelet that was always with me, that is, it is tied, it is already doesn’t come off like this one, i went with him for several years, and he somehow always fed me with energy, i felt comfortable with him and... once i was at a formula 1 race, and they put on these bracelets for entrance to the vip zone or somewhere, so i didn’t take it off, and something like one

day or a couple of days later i came to somewhere company, he tells me that you are wearing this bracelet, i say, yes, you need scissors, there are no scissors at hand, you need to cut it off somehow, i say, let’s cut it off for you, well, in general, they cut it off for me, as i later understood along with this thread, and i didn’t notice at that moment, and it was so uncomfortable, some kind of rod that suddenly... you were pulled out, well, yuliana said that she has such talismans that she wears, and you have these , i used to wear them, well now, where is the wedding ring, i used to wear them, i just had two rings, made of different colors of gold, but they were practically the same and i just couldn’t if i was without these rings, well, i already had one, i just couldn’t help but sing, not write, in short, i also became attached to these rings and at some point - i... took them off myself, i realized that that’s it, they, i have to learn to live without them, yes, no, you know, it seemed to me that they seemed to do everything for me, that as if their time

was up, i had the same thing with a ring that i also purchased - during such difficult times for me moments, so i walked with it for a very long time, in principle i set some goals for myself, and it encouraged me, that is, it was hard for me, i also put it on and then took the order, the moment i just felt somehow uncomfortable on my fingers, i started twirl it like that, twirl it, at some point i say, i’m probably talking about... what am i talking about, it gave me everything i needed, and i bought it and it’s like that, you wanted it so much, you calmly sold it, but another ring quickly took its place, and what kind of ring is it? this ring is for, oddly enough, this a divorce ring, and we often have this practice, have you heard of such, no, never in your life, divorce rings, that is , there are engagement rings, when this process is completed, a divorce ring.

the cracks are filled with gold to show that the cracks are our scars, this is our experience, this is exactly the brand i have a ring with obsidian, with a stone, which is also called the devil’s koga, this is the ring i gave myself for divorce, roughly speaking, because this is also an event, in fact there are no such events at all, it’s just the name of a divorce ring, but i think that when you see this ring, you will understand that i want it now, because we have a lot of russian and non- russian brands, who started this trend picked up divorce rings, they come either with colored mali, gold with diamonds, or just some kind of silver. different threads with inscriptions with some kind of support, with some kind of tonic inscriptions, i have a super discovery now, by the way, this ring helps, like being strong or

whatever, i don’t know, it supports, gives energy some kind, it seems to me, it supports, because this is also an event, well, after all, a wedding is a bright white event, and why was divorce so overshadowed, two people gave each other and separated, why not start, in principle , psychologically this is how it should be it could be, of course, that one person gave another an expensive ring. this is doubly a holiday, especially by the way, it would be more pleasant for everyone, at least, well, in general ol, any event would be much more pleasant if we were given rings or good jewelry every time, by the way, it seems to me the perfect gift, well, julian, i asked olga, what is some kind of taboo for you in jewelry, is there something that you would never wear yourself, and would not recommend to someone, there is nothing that i would not recommend, everyone has their own style, everyone. and does as he wants, my favorite phrase is appropriate here: fashion, a matter of time, style, a matter of individuality, so i won’t recommend anything to anyone here, i don’t wear gold, yellow specifically, gold, some kind of big

brass rings for me, is it because you think the color doesn’t suit you or for some reason it seems to me that the yellow metal is gold itself, it’s yellow, not not not the material is gold, but the yellow jewelry is large, they accumulate some kind of bad energy, somehow they don’t suit me, if we talk about jewelry , then in the case of the black ty dress code, what alloy should you choose, white gold, yellow gold, pink gold, what kind of stones, rose gold - it’s very complex in terms of combinations, it’s very difficult to choose something for it, unless it’s some kind of ring with a stone, the stones can now be combined further, yellow gold, i don’t know, but for some reason it turned out that i’m generally very categorical, i don’t really like it, for some reason it seems to me that it has some kind of envy in itself, it collects envy in itself, i had the same attitude towards yellow gold, i didn’t have a single thing made of yellow gold, i categorically did not perceive it, i thought that it didn’t go well with me, and then when

these new modern... jewelry appeared, where white is also combined and yellow gold, well, let’s say, costume jewelry, and i suddenly realized that this it looks really cool together, it’s just very difficult to combine yellow and white gold technically, because they have different melting temperatures, so it’s hard to make them together, and rarely do any brands, if we’re talking about jewelry, combine it all together, so i’m running very often things, by the way, at one time i bought jewelry so that the decoration would have... a combination of white gold and yellow, i really liked it, somehow it just lifted my mood, moreover, my husband thought about some important things in general like this -it's the holidays, he always gives me jewelry, i have a lot of it, well, this has always been jewelry, yes, in fact, i had it since childhood, my dad and very often went on business trips to africa , very often brought stones from there, i was raised in such a way that the best a gift for women is jewelry, but it still

counts. yes, absolutely, i think there is no better gift, a small holiday, even a zodiac sign, it seems to me that it’s still nice, i have a brother, and we once gave it to our mother for her birthday, we both have a name starts with the letter o, and we gave the letter o from diamond white and black together, and well , she always wears it, it was a very valuable gift for her, but here it seems to me that it’s a big fantasy, but how do you feel about this modern interfere with the trend?

but basically it’s jewelry, and what are the most relevant trends this year in 2024, because even jewelry nowadays is an investment, it costs the same as jewelry used to cost, that’s what it costs, it makes sense to invest , what will live the longest, because it happens that... you bought some kind of jewelry and don’t wear it afterwards, but there are some things that you suddenly realize that you haven’t taken them off for a whole year, because they fit into any of your image, this is true, by the way, there are some absolutely mediocre purchases, and there is something right through the years with you, now yuliana will explain to you and me, because olya and i , apparently, intuitively buy such things by accident, so tell me how to really do such conscious things

purchases so that it... fits into the wardrobe, for starters i always collect a base, that is, what i will always wear is a couple of rings so that, well, i just have a security ring that is worn on the little finger, it closes everything , you have it with an alarm button, which sends a signal to the remote control, and to my husband, it turns out that he closes all his fingers, the last finger is the little finger, and i put a ring on it, that’s it, everything is closed, that is, i’m safe, wait, please tell me, that is, for example, if i have there are not so many accessories, i... can, of course, put them on here, this, this will be in any case, what, what kind of safety ring, well, i call it a finger, well , a safety ring, that is, i get it, this is how to close door, you leave the house, lock the door, i leave the house, put on the security ring, that’s it, i feel comfortable, i can’t do this with my forgetfulness, i’ll forget it, i’ll have a whole day to change gears, we have reminder rings , promise rings, a lot all in all, i need this, a reminder ring, and by the way, i also need it, it has a knot, we have many russian brands, they make

a small knot, this is a promise ring. or a reminder, it’s like they used to always draw a star for themselves with a pen so as not to forget something, it can also be, by the way, this is a great option for a gift, for example, to a friend or someone you know well. and he’s just a forgetful person, do you know how many such rings i’ll have then, olya? i think that everyone will come to the next birthday me with such a ring, i don’t have so many fingers, and the main thing is that the sizes are different for everyone, say, yeah, yes, so that they fit on different fingers, and also write in the technical specification that there must be a diamond there, otherwise i won’t remember anything, indeed, this is generally obligatory, yes, and what other trends are like this? well, now the trend is towards silver lace. they make frames like this from seemingly repeating the shape of lace and make earrings from this, this long ring is also completely made like lace - some kind of chokers in the form of lace, bracelets, this is now becoming a trend again, and bows, butterfly bows, let’s also

talk about vintage, because i have such a significant part of my jewelry collection that occupies vintage, that’s exactly vintage jewelry, for some reason they go with everything. tash is more about individuality, because you will know for sure when you put on yourself, you will know for sure that you won’t see anything like this on practically anyone, but it’s about uniqueness, about some kind of memory, also about value, just i'm not vintage at all, i'm i’ve never been to any flea markets, but i dream of going, i like vintage jewelry, for example, there is a great, very amazing brand, this is the lady who makes vintage jewelry, that is, she actually takes rock crystal, cuts it out, makes a drawing inside, fills it with paint , she can add a detail from the 16th century, which was taken there from the diadem of some princess, she also makes on rings, on mala, on such a small piece of rock crystal she carves portraits of pets, elderly women, who come and make it all from diamonds, gold with different sapphires,

so she makes these like subvintage, but they just collect everything in italy, they really like collecting there, they really like vintage, she brought them to russia now, well, this is very it’s cool, because it still turns out that you can invest in... some ideas that will warm you up for a very long time and support some of your ideas and values, by the way, i was just talking about all these different things, and i remembered that we somehow disappeared completely out of the round of brooches, why we don’t wear them anymore, this is the first time i’ve heard that they don’t wear brooches anymore, we really have a lot of brooches, very different ones made of beads. which repeat the paintings of the renaissance, some handmade ones, because well, for example, any jacket can be decorated with brooches, how else can you stylize it, that is, it is still relevant, no one wears it, you don’t have brooches, i have several, but you also stopped

wearing them, yes, it turns out that we need to remember the good old one, i actually think now that we should somehow look into the box, just somehow carefully fall in love with the accessories again - it ’s still really possible. completely change the mood of your image only through accessories, well, by the way, while we were just talking about vintage, you asked, i have a question about pearls, are they fashionable now or are they too, it just seems crazy to me, yes right now they are in general , it is included if it is a very large, very intrusive pearl, well, there are pearls as delicate as river pearls, and yes, yes, a small thin thread, and there is, for example, something like marine, well, that is, large, maybe it’s a borax pearl.

silver as these twigs and pearls, the french school of design, she has very beautiful shapes like this, she uses uh-huh, and she also has a lot of rings, it’s just a modern design, you can replay it, that is, you can in the end unravel this string of pearls , sew a couple of bracelets from it that will go on your finger, and you know what i did, i remembered, several years ago i had many, many of these bouzas, back from my childhood, left over from completely different stones, multi-colored, and i just asked, they made me a long, long thread

in accordance with the artistic understanding of the person who reassembled it for me, and i still wear it from time to time, it’s long, you can wrap it there, here is a choker, then i do it like this, it’s very fashionable now, yes, like a handbag through. how a belt can be tied, that is, this too, it seems to me that such universal things can be, transformers, yes, there is such a theme in jewelry, exactly about this decoration, there are a lot of brands like this now. they do it so that you can wear earrings, for example, if it’s some evening, put some pebbles on top of the earring that are riveted, or then take it off if it’s somewhere and you’re taking a child or going to the store, that is, so that you can play that this is just for people who don’t have time to go shopping, so i have a question, for example - conditionally morning, well, how is there a dress code , and in jewelry there is an evening dress code, is there a difference, oh 'okay, we're not talking now about something so massive, in general, it seems to me, it seems to me that if there is,

let’s say, you are going to some kind of evening, evening event, where the white thai dress code is stated, then of course there must be expensive jewelry there , well, everything, in general, where is black ty and whate ty, it seems to me that it’s local , yes, jewelry, probably just for the evening, it seems to me that now it’s costume jewelry, if before it was believed that costume jewelry was something like daytime, no, there is serious jewelry, then today jewelry is in in principle, such a serious request. i can say about costume jewelry, once i was flying somewhere through singapore and stopped near a jewelry store, all these stones sparkled so much that i decided to just spend the rest of all the money i had on these some , well, some bracelets, some chokers, something like that, what’s the point, the fact is that probably 10 years have passed, this is exactly the same costume jewelry that i have...

the participants of the next ones are knocking podcasts, thank you so much for coming, this is it was really very interesting, we discussed a very beautiful topic today, and there is something to think about, we’ll go through everything, we’ll go through everything, and by the way, we’ll leave it as an inheritance for the children, we won’t give it away, because it’s vintage, not all that glitters is gold , we were convinced of this today, watch not lymshity and the podcast lab on the first website. oh, how many

wonderful discoveries the enlightenment of the spirit is preparing for us. and experience, the son of difficult mistakes, and genius, paradox, suddenly, chance, god, inventor. to the poet's anniversary. this is a space stories podcast, i'm a pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov. may 30 would have been the 90th anniversary of the birth of pilot cosmonaut, twice hero of the soviet union, major general of aviation, alexei arkhipech leonov. he did the seemingly impossible and was the first to go into outer space. he became a legend not only of soviet but also of world cosmonautics. alexey arkipech was there, of course. famous as an astronaut, but at the same time he was a gifted artist,

a wonderful husband and father, and a loyal friend. today my guest is alexey arkhipovich’s daughter oksana leonova and his classmate yuri mikhniv. hello hello! hello! oksana, tell us how you remember alexey arkhipovich as a dad? incredibly kind, touching in our family relationships, a little naive, that is, dad could be taken around. never mother, and he was such a cheerful person, he joked with us so much and played so many, you know, pranks on us, some pranks, that our life was quite cheerful, and of course, dads to us there's something scary missing, i remember my first meeting with alexey arkhipovich in december 2003, when we traditionally celebrated the new year with a detachment of cosmonauts, except for the current cosmonaut. we always invite our veterans, so...