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or you took a wonderful photo of your son, the first thing you do is you show this photo of your son in your family, these 120 people, this is this very family, where there is not a single adequate fair opinion, because just like in every family, there are favorites, and idiots, and mom and dad, grandparents, who are losing their minds in our family situation, every artist is a relative and an absolutely irreplaceable part of this family, no matter who you have in the family i didn’t give my soul to god, you always one will feel sorry for him, he likes someone better, if we talk about art, then of course...
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there are no replaceable ones, we have so few, i don’t agree with many, well, so to speak, gallery owners who believe that you need to be very tough, to behave towards artists, it seems to me that we do not have the right, that is, now i am speaking as a gallery owner, we do not have the right now, even if the gallery owner has the right to behave harshly towards the artist, it’s just like would...
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which could have happened on the gallery site, but suddenly human relations they begin to push us together, as it were , very interesting projects come out, sometimes you want, let’s say, more recognition, because you tell yourself that this can give you more opportunities, and more opportunities to do something, but on the other hand, just to put it that way if you sit and think quietly, you understand that in general, in any situation, the possibilities are the same. that is, it’s all the same, as if there are certain boundaries, that is, this can be done, but this cannot be done, and so on to say, the proportion between what you can do due to some technical conditions and what you cannot do due to some technical conditions is always, in general it is always the same, and, as it were, the degree of your frustration depends on for the fact that you can’t do something there, because there’s no money, there’s no premises, there’s no this, there’s no that, she’s in any, she’s in any situation, i think she’s the same there, starting from some kind of
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fence artist and ending with jeff koontz, that’s why i still think that the question of recognition is purely a matter of ambition, well, the future, i don’t know, well, well, in my opinion, it’s so boring, this is the construction of some kind of dachas, i don’t know, there, buying, there, saving money for a car, i i don’t know, or something else in this whole thing, it doesn’t change anything, for me it changes the impression, you have to live cheerfully, russian reality is so fabulous, fantastic, kind of so-and-so, well , kind of monstrously unpredictable, that any interest in it, it immediately calls up some monsters, right away, that is, the process becomes uncontrollable, i’ll tell you briefly about our exhibition, which was very important for me, which i wanted to hold almost as an academic exhibition, when we made false walls in the gallery and built them there. the soldiers
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had holes cut, they had their hands cold and had to hold the paintings, it was called an apology for shyness or first-hand art, that is, roughly speaking, people walled up in the wall were holding paintings, so we rehearsed with the soldiers, we kind of agreed that they wouldn’t will tremble what it will be like a calm, cold exhibition, you walk in, as if the whole trick was that suddenly you discover that these are living hands, and it seems like everything is very simple to do, it seems like everything is very simple, how to implement it, get it. of course, it was necessary to find some money, it was necessary to build these false walls, but again it turned out that there were a lot of things that could not be foreseen, when touching any reality and russian reality in particular, no one could have foreseen it in advance, when we they thought that the soldiers would smell so strongly, no one thought that they the hands would shake so terribly, but no one would, i couldn’t imagine that people wouldn’t look at the pictures at all, they would try to enter into some kind of interaction with the soldiers when the spectators burst in. they
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began, so to speak, to pour champagne there, so to speak, to kiss them something like that, to calm them down somehow, so to speak , to somehow show some kind of unthinkable mercy and philanthropy, here are the soldiers -
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and smoke some tobacco , and since now it’s just, well, these are banal things, i’m saying because that everyone experiences daily hassle every day, it seems to me that at home
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you need to be calm, conservative, moderate in doing household chores, these are the kind of people i like, i am a doctor in training. i can say that psychiatric hospitals are overcrowded with people of simple professions, there are simple working carpenters, ordinary officials, there are fewer creative people there, because human memory, the human soul, the human brain, all these subconscious things and so on, and he was created for this to man was engaged in creativity, it is possible to exist in this fantastic world, in such a generally amazing mystical world. our program is dedicated to fashion, the style of the era, the artist is shaped by time, he gives time, form, the spirit of the time, the air of the era,
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the artist feels like no one else, in the end, and the picture of the universe is just a picture. it seems to me that we live in a very, very... important, perhaps extremely, extremely important, extremely interesting, like a turning point era, when, in general, one civilization ends, begins another, that is, well, maybe this is something similar, i don’t know, to the invention of book printing by gutenberg, but i think that this, that this still needs to go even deeper, that is, this is something that had no analogues , maybe over the last few thousand years, that is, it is like an absolute breakdown in the human, as if in the structure of the human... consciousness , strictly speaking, when humanity is faced with the fact that it will cease to be people, it will turn into someone , into someone else, and we, strictly speaking, we are not we know by what laws life will be lived, and in general everything will happen there further, but it would be similar
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to if they told you that tomorrow you will turn into a cat, yes, well, it’s like it may be good for a cat to transform, but it’s very scary, because it’s clear that the cat doesn’t even know that it’s a cat, that is, it’s all completely.
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it seems to me that he just catches it, in general, time makes the artist, but in general we all make time, this is, well... here are the stairs, the stairs are one of the most, most wonderful ancient inventions of man, that is , a ladder, a wheel, a bow, all this appeared, maybe even a ladder earlier than, well, not earlier, an ax, but maybe earlier than a wheel, and if we just look around ourselves, even without any mythological research, then we will discover that this is what it is, there is a city, houses, all stairs, the stairs are on fire. evacuation, some kind of attachments, stepladders, something else, these are a bunch of stairs along which they climb
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up, go down, masses, masses of people, masses of us, like garages, so the stairs with on the one hand, this is truly an ancient archetype, a lot of myths are associated with it, including the famous staircase to heaven, on the other hand, this is something that simply surrounds us in real life, just as an artist went out to paint a landscape and painted the moon, a lake and some kind of then the shore? then in exactly the same way, you can, well , conditionally write a staircase, that is, i love stairs for some combination of a completely modern modern function in them and even the function of such a symbolic, say , career ladder, something like that absolutely everyday and ancient archetypal mythological and so on is one of the important reasons. the interest in
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russian art all over the world disappeared, this was immediately reflected in the enthusiasm of our artists, the art of the bolsheviks, which carried a very strong pathos, was gone, and, as it were, in the collapsed, as it were, today of our empire, very much remained. .. on these ruins, in this seemingly zero zone, pathos is definitely needed, that is
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, it became boring to go to exhibitions, it became boring to watch seemingly new exhibitions opening, and i realized that we need to do something like a show, a fairy tale, we need some kind of fairy tale in the good sense of the word, but it’s like a real fairy tale, that is, we can’t cross out anything in our lives, we can’t give up anything, that’s it as if it goes into everything. what existed among us, where we existed, all this, this is part of us, the same zil brezhnevsky, these are incredibly beautiful cars, well, everything, pushkin’s fairy tales, we will not fill in lenin, mishka in the north, everything is absolutely, that’s all we, the world has become so, as it were, unpredictable, artistic, unpredictable, as if so self-developing, that the more you introduce into it...
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well, how impossible, how impossible, it’s as if we were born to make a fairy tale, we
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can, as it were, this very thing, well, as if it’s like an army of workers, like american artists already have, american artists have a whole, so to speak , whole factory near orhal, and brezhnev has a whole country, it’s like they’re rushing with shovels, pickaxes at all the institutions and kind of turning around these rivers and nothing doesn’t happen, well, the microclimate is actually changing, it’s raining somewhere, somewhere out there the fallow deer are dying out, there the blacks are plumping up so to speak, but nevertheless... how would a person do something seemingly impossible, well , i saw a vision of a diver, uh, i made him, but of course, then we have a human brain already trying to explain everything. they are trying to explain everything, but why, and why? well, i can explain, the diver is like this, why is it velvet, and why is it not rubber, because the diver is a symbol of some kind of subconscious world, this hose, hose, it is not just a hose, but it is more an umbilical cord, an umbilical cord that connects
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eternity with our real life. with the world beyond, with our existing world, because if a diver exists in some submerged environments, then his hose goes out into a completely different environment, which is inaccessible to him in the life of a diver; in fact, this is not a diver, but simply, as it were, a light coming from within , well , in general, there is an idea for this that this is a ceremonial bouquet, let’s say, this is generally a funny idea, that is, there was a ceremonial portrait, let’s say with ribbons, speakers there and so on, and this is me i decided to make a ceremonial bouquet, for this i specially chose wildflowers, well, i took and first made 1.50 by 2 m, then 1.80 by 2 m, then 2x2 m, and then 2x3 m, well, then i don’t know if it will be possible to paint a house,
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i would paint a house, i don’t think about the price, let’s say there and there... the problem of selling, let’s say, yes, but just have great fun, throwing yourself on a huge piece of canvas, but uh, the carpet is just hanging in the apartment among the people, this 2 by 3 m carpet also hangs in some houses, even in block houses, so what class, if instead of... a carpet there is a huge picture hanging, in my opinion, everything fits, this colossal money is an illusion, in reality it is not that much money, and i’m not being flirtatious, it’s true, it’s not so often that each of us buys for ourselves painting, so i
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already said that the work of an artist is indeed a very risky job. connected with psychology, just with money, i don’t know, with daily bread, in the event that a person, having worked as an artist, having invested in his inhuman labor, in this profession, at the age of 45, suddenly realizes that he well, it didn’t work out, this is a disaster, because, frankly speaking, artists. they don’t know how to do anything other than practice their art, there are people who write easily, people who create easily, there are people who are hard, i’m painful, you have to force yourself to start, of course, and then, as if in the process, of course you want to, well, there’s just no way out, it’s like for me it’s like they told me a story that people who donate blood get so used to it
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that then, if they stop donating, stop donating blood, they develop excess and it hits. art cannot be worth it, another thing is that i cannot do anything else, and many people cannot do anything other than art, this is another problem, we say art, that there was art in ancient egypt, but in the era , the revival was art, now it’s art, in fact it’s just one word for completely different different things, in this
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sense, when we say modern art, what is that, it’s some kind of special practice that... special humanitarian a practice, let’s say, that began somewhere slowly from the middle of the 19th century, but gained momentum by the beginning of the 20th century and is about now ending. there are many different societies, everything is divided into circles, despite the fact that all people are equal, of course, but it seems to me that i belong to one of... the most wonderful, cheerful, nice circles of society that will probably remain in history, because it’s connected with creativity and... “actually, it’s at least interesting, and if people remember something, then about interesting things and something good and fun.
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the artist embodies the spirit of the times. who today, except historians, can understand the ups and downs of the political life of france in the second half of the last century. everyone knows the impressionists. time will pass, the names of today's politicians will be forgotten, and for posterity." the nineties of the 20th century may become the time when one of the heroes of our program lived here. for today, perhaps, that's all, the matodor was led by konstantin ernst, goodbye.
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flower withered, earless, forgotten in a book, i see, now the soul is already dreaming of a strange mine filled up, where it bloomed, when, in what spring, and how long it bloomed, plucked by someone, a stranger, perhaps by a familiar hand, placed here, why, in memory of a tender meeting or a fatal separation, or a lonely walk, in the silence of fields, in the shade of a forest, and is he alive... ita, they lived, and now, where is their corner, or have they already faded, like this unknown flower, for the poet’s anniversary,
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it may be possible. i dream of asking one question that i never dare to ask you: what is your favorite work by alexander sergevich pushkin? i won't tell you anything original, i
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of course, i’ll name evgeniy anegin first of all, it would be strange if i didn’t say this, you need to know him, love him and so on, i even have to admit one very scary thing, when we studied evgeniy anegin at school, we studied him in almost senior classes. and i, being a theater child, i knew that many actors know not only a fragment of this work in order to enter or continue their studies, or graduate from a theater university, or even act in a play, or sing, but they know simply because they organize readings, by that time i had even heard records or live performances of actors who read by heart, at some point i promised myself... i could do it too, the text was not given to me, no way, i read avidly, it seemed to me that i understood everything, i
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placed the right accents, i felt every line, after 10-20 years i realized that i didn’t understand anything, i was very worried because i couldn’t learn this seemingly small story, and then i i understand that only a few people can learn it, but reading it beautifully, even more so, is a gift.
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socialites, about their experiences, this is a fashion magazine, after all, there is a whole dictionary of fashion terms of that time, beret, tatyana’s crimson beret, and sleeves too , well, this is a long conversation about the history of fashion, and you know, yes, what a beret could be worn only married women, so we comprehend all this through fashion, then baa, fan, tiara, vest, caftan, well, this is already ours, necklace. corset, sash, mackintosh, trousers, gloves, scarf, riding coat, reticule, frock coat, body of the jacket, cane, an integral part of all time and sheepskin coat, all of this is described, all of this can be cited with quotes, all of these are not just colors to describe a character, all of these are also attributes of the time, this is fashion, but i’m sure that you have this entire list in your wardrobe, except for redengote , but i don’t have a cane,
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but i do. you have, of course, not the one that you need to rely on, but the one that you need for segalism, to hold it in your hands, i thought, to beat up the boys, newspapermen, not without this, or to drive the property owner, my friend, touch me, for some reason - just like in childhood i was most fascinated by the queen of spades, because it is so mystical, there are such bright psychological characters, this is probably your favorite work.
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for a russian person, he will probably be primarily associated with pushkin, so we decided to create a whole collection around his fairy tales. what trends of that time inspired you to create the collection? are there any trends from the 19th century in the collection? we did not turn to the trends of that time, we rethought the main characters and motives of pushkin’s fairy tales, created our own our own unique author's print,
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which included: a scientist cat, and nuts, and a squirrel, with emeralds, and a chain, and a chain on an oak tree, a fairy tale, a lie from an old hint, we wanted everyone. i have learned something of my own in everything, in this universe of pushkin, for myself, that is, everyone has their own associations, everyone has their own childhood memories, when we talk about pushkin’s era, that’s what you imagine, for you, what are the most striking signs, symbols, codes of the era? the terminology itself is pushkin's era, fashion pushkin's era, it rather has, it seems to me, some kind of cultural aspect, i'll explain why, if we... 1837, but firstly, fashion does not end in one day, as an art critic , it probably immediately comes to mind namely some stylistic eras, and here we are talking, of course, about
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the late empire, empire, late neoclassicism or simply late classicism in russia, we are talking about romanticism, and we are talking about astarism, that is, these are three things that... again, do not end in one day, but alternate, intertwine, one the period is moving into another, and for me it ’s probably such a palette of images, fashion is the beginning of the 19th century, this is still an era of such great changes, these elegant men’s suits, which were generally accepted in the 18th century, are going away, and as i understand it, that men, at some point, their tendency to wear cosmetics disappears, because the eighteenth. century, men were no less elegant than women, this is cosmetics, this is styling, velvet, lace, what happened, why suddenly at some point everything came to naught, this is the military the years have affected, or something else has influenced
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why a man becomes more brutal, fashion in men's clothing, it came from england, it did not always come from england directly, it came from england through france, and here, of course, is the great french revolution, 1700. .. eighty -nine, rejection of luxury, simplification of costume, this trend of dandyism appears, actually a trend, but the french perceive it very well, it comes to us in some kind of processed form, partly an english trend, anglomaniacs, here not only there were francophiles, and partly through the french, who also give up a little now, all this luxury, well , at least from customs, from... powdering the face, from a large amount, but how elegant, and bob bramel, george bryan bramel, and this is the embodiment of dandyism, is a man who, having actually entered the circle of the prince regent,
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he accordingly began to enjoy great popularity at court, dictated fashion, his things in the development of some kind of masculine style of behavior and costume, but in a suit it also manifested itself very clearly. this is hygiene, this is daily bathing, this is a smooth shaved face, that is, no stubble was allowed, this lack of a wig is a very good haircut. today we are discussing how the works of alexander sergeevich influenced fashion, the fashion of the past and present. braml, he was precisely distinguished by his inconspicuous visibility. even. such a term in english, conspicuous inconspicuousness, noticeable invisibility, you just need to see how it looks, and you suddenly begin to understand that there is nothing so pretentious about there is no such image, although it is impossible to pass by,
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everything seems to be neat and fine, but so carelessly that only a person who has already reached some other level can afford it, that is, this is no longer fashion, this is no longer a modus vivendis , this is no longer... theophy - this is already some kind of mischief and this is already a high sense of humor, very high, thanks to which you are ironic with your image, with the image of those around you, with fashion, and with style, and with the whole world, as if neglecting all this, this is the highest point, this a certain manner of behavior, of course, is equanimity, and with this equanimity it was necessary to amaze with surprise, the third moment when the effect was achieved in time to leave. it was important for him to create an effect, this is how he always appeared in society, and what details in the clothes were so shocking or unusual at that time, i would say that he greatly simplified the costume, that is, firstly, he introduced
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fashion to he tied scarves, neckerchiefs, scarves in a completely special way, and he could spend 2-3 hours tying such a scarf, when, because the scarf was tied in this way, it was possible to bring it back to normal, and this could continue for several hours, and at the same time come, having spent 3 hours on your outfit and come with the appearance that, in general, you are bored in this society and literally after some time after the spectacular phrase to leave, it made an incredible impression, and he was imitated madly, he had imitators in england, france, russia, byron is already like the next wave, and pushkin, in fact, he, of course , byron is like...
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although in fact there’s nothing special about him to highlight and note, there’s nothing to analyze by an expert, you think what’s wrong with him, this negligence, it’s a brilliant negligence, if of course you take it seriously at all, this is what it is, probably dandyism, this this is looseness, but collected, this is like this, you know, like the latin saying, hurry up slowly, not quickly, not slowly,
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very noticeable, this is a balance, this is a delicate taste, well, pushkin was not very wealthy , not low, not action-packed, not in the old school stagnant, something so discreet, but a fashionista, he had a fairly limited number of suits, as far as i know, and what was the name of this robe, the famous dressing gown, and this is a special dressing gown for the home, another such detail, if we are talking about the artistic . the beech tree they smoke, the fez on their head or
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the yarmulke, this style, when an aristocrat in his office, spends his morning, say, or the afternoon like this, these are also certain attributes of a secular person that must be there. i heard that pushkin was quite outrageous in his clothes, very often he fawned over ladies with his appearance, and there were stories, i don’t know how true they were. or not, or this is some kind of historical anecdote, very often in the memoirs of contemporaries, i even saved it for myself, very often his very long nails are mentioned, about which everyone says that they looked like claws, or here’s another story that also it is often told by historians that pushkin had some period when he had some kind of illness, he kept his hair short, and walked around in prikus, here he was sitting in the theater, where it was stuffy, he took off his wig from...
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this line must not be crossed, because to make an impression, at the same time, it is advisable not to offend anyone, so a real dandy can sweat, so dandies should there should be some attacks, and did you see that alexander sergeevich today, however, no, alas for me, it was not alexander sergeevich, he is already different, this is the ability to play with public opinion, if we are talking about some kind of secular then a reception, but about conversations, this is the ability... to trigger an opinion a little
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society, without violating any moral principles, that is , there is nothing offensive in this, and the apatage is not vulgar, but still forces you to keep your attention, and then they look up to him, just like george bramel or david lyon and others other dandies, oscar wilde also falls into the same category, again, these rumors that dandyism is a lot, a lot of rubbish, everything is magnificent. and others say that this is minimalism, and if you mix everything, shake it or not shake it, you get some kind of strange mixture that not everyone understands, how to use it not everyone can do it. who is close to you ? have you cosplayed any of these guys? when there were some masquerades - school or some kind of performances, i gladly participated in some kind of costume fun, and yes, i really loved to portray, well, i always had either a hussar costume, carefully
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selected, very accurately and correctly, or like this, apparently a dandy, somewhere i could get it in theaters. dressing rooms i could get a camisole, a frag, and a top hat, small in size, but still suitable for a teenage boy to direct rustle at some school party, and as an adult you can afford to dress up like this like a real dandy from the pushkin era, you will laugh, i have a frag, only not a real one, but one that looks like a tailcoat that has survived since then, in where i perform with my band, what else do you have besides a tailcoat? and quite by accident, tatyana, i discovered that i suddenly took with me a portrait, which i will be happy to show, oh well, this is a portrait of that same david line, but in my execution there is such
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photo wait, this is david lyon, this is not david lyon, this is yours truly as david lyon, this is a photo reconstruction. exactly like this, only in this place it’s really real, that same famous dandy, in my opinion, i succeeded, tatyana, if you suddenly keep it at your place, i will gladly give it away, because i have a lot of them, and i always quite by chance i carry it with me like a real dandy, you give me such a generous gift, it’s the only one, you’re so a little bit arian gray, that’s exactly how i always i answer, they always tell me, of course. this is a generous gift, of course, i highly recommend you make a portrait in a woman’s dress of that era and that’s it, and the years will stop when they tell me, yours is enough for me, why are you 100 years old at lunchtime, and you look like a boy, it’s all the portrait’s fault , they ask, when they ask me such questions, i will answer, i have a portrait of alexandra anatolyevich, blame it all on me, everything is fine, dariana
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anatolyevich, one way or another, and dandyism penetrated into everything we do. russian society and, of course, one of the most prominent representatives i’m sure alexander sergeevich was this outrageousness and epotage, and he did the right thing, because with his greatest education, and an excellent education, with his excellent upbringing, and there was arina radionovna, and the lyceum, and the environment, there was such a powerful cocktail of all sorts of cultures that he could afford, anything. internal limits, internal boundaries, internal culture, based on his origin and roots of upbringing, it allowed him not to go beyond these limits, in my opinion, as far as i know the biography of our whole alexander sergeevich. in the lists of great dandies, of course, there are historical characters and fictitious, collective, probably, images,
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if real, then these are george bramel, david lyon, or david bowick; among fictional ones, this is eugene onegin. but it seems to me that alexander sergeevich often looked in the mirror, copying the portrait, and depicting onegin in some lines, it seems to me so. and who else besides bowie, who, by the way, usually hangs on the back of my t-shirts, who else is modern, yes, i can safely call modern dandy, as everyone calls him jack varobey, in fact, his name is different, mr. johnny dep, johnny dep, yes, easily, if he really wanted to, and that’s what he is. in his secular manifestations, brad pitt could easily be like this, he’s just more careless, more californian, more of a simple guy, johnny deb, no, johnny deb is a rock star, rock stars in general are the dandy of our time, but not everyone, of course, dandy can be called leni kravitz, yes.

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