mkhat is a clear abbreviation, gergiev is a clear name, they loved temerkanov, they want to see those they know again, and for them, they know that this person will come, it will be the pleasure that they once received and want get it again. it’s very difficult to promote contemporary art, because i have always said that we must show modern russia.

we want to show, you know, this is also a very important matter, because we are still a russian theater to a greater extent, again, what we today it positions itself as a country of traditional values, conservative in many ways, but at the same time actively developing contemporary art, the fact is that contemporary art in russia is in one way or another connected with tradition, all the same, there before the russian avant-garde at the beginning of the 20th century caused a certain horror , read what overchenko wrote there, for example.

so straightforward, yes, in soviet times not a single concert was complete without one or even two new works being present in it, when the state orchestra, orchestra leningrad philharmonic, went abroad, they were told: “bach, beethovin, tchaikovsky, please, festive kuy, ipergenova, be sure to include it in the program, otherwise we will not let you out, well, on the one hand, yes, but on the other hand.”

that a tour is not only at the invitation of one minister of culture, the marinsky theater goes there for two performances or for five or the novaya opera theater, but it is that promoters appear who take them to 10 concerts, to 15 performances, to 20 performances, so happened now, say, with anna karenina, and then this anna karenina, who is still... the economy is working, and well, the korean musical was performed by chinese artists, you understand, and all this is not at all easy, because after all, in america and europe we had understandable markets, completely with the support of state funds , sponsors, today this really needs to be worked out in china, because in china there are big corporations, a lot of money, there is interest. our companies have to work in china

there and so on, so we need to develop such a strategy for cultural cooperation where the market would work, here i am i recently met with... i just recently looked at the prices there in the peking opera, yes no no not in the genre of peking opera in the building of the peking opera these are normal european once european prices, the fact

is that again today you need to look for some the right approaches, but you understand there is no market today. in not one of the new states, not in one of the new states, not in a single country that was formed after the collapse of the soviet union, there is no, there is no, there is no opportunity to come and tour for money for a long time there, it won’t work, we need sponsors and we need the state. but if you still start from the beginning, yes, pushkin, gogol, glinka, whose anniversary is also this year, then start right from the stove, this is exactly the path that we took with europe and america

for many, many years ago, well, you understand what’s the matter, we live in a slightly different space today, today we work with countries where the russian language is, well , a language quite well known even in china and in the same place, not to mention the countries of the post-soviet space , first you need start, but the question is that until we understand how this works on market terms, it will be very difficult for us, i repeat once again, china is huge, china is 1.5 billion people, china is building the infrastructure that it wants to fill, this requires very... careful and painstaking work, they don’t need to be accustomed to russian art, i was recently in gaangzhou, met with representatives of the opera house in guangzhou, yes, they are staging, excuse me, quiet don, an opera performance, you understand, yes, they stage tchaikovsky, naturally, for them

there seem to be no problems with the russian repertoire, but there is a serious problem of how to organize our tours, right? what framework exists within which one must work, but nevertheless the market is the market, they themselves are ready to do this at their own peril and risk, and it seems to me that today, especially since there are now 2 years of serious cultural exchanges with china, then

of course one of the tasks today is to unite promoters, to unite agencies that work in this market, private companies, so that in 2 years... private museums of contemporary art, which in in china there are many, by the way, in china there are many private museums of contemporary art, but there it is just emerging, there are bad venues for ballet performances, despite the fact that indians seem to love russian ballet, but

in fact, so to speak, finding ballet in linoleum is not the easiest task, as it turns out, a completely different tradition, a different approach, what other sites are there? in asia, here are the countries, what platforms, china, japan, japan, korea, there is latin america, there is africa, it is very... different now, for example, there the gitis theater institute works in senegal, russian seasons work in senegal, there is the maghreb, where russian culture has always been considered, there is ethiopia, and so on, well, different countries, they require a different approach, it’s a rather complex story, so, well, the world great, as they say, a certain very serious flexibility is needed here.

with the founder and artistic director of the moscow musical theater. and besides the fact that you license some works, in less of them than what is on your poster, you if you create your own musical, you create a russian musical. tell me, this is how it seems to you, given the current moment, yes, you feel that it is already a russian musical, a russian-language musical, born in russia, it is within those 12 or already 13 years

of creating a russian musical and getting pleasure from it when you are still from the idea not even an unwritten line, something is spinning in your head, you think it would be nice to try like this, like this, like that, like that, and suddenly something happens, we put only one famous name, this is the circus princess, and that having remade it radically, with the permission of the copyright holder then, it was kalman’s daughter, ivanka, an absolutely wonderful woman, we...

also, after all, she wasn’t born in russia, i don’t want to offend anyone, and the drama is an opera, and why won’t it, can’t be russian musical, i don’t understand, but it’s absolutely, no, but it’s the same pattern that we started with, yes, it’s the bolshoi theatre, the marinsky theatre, the hermetage, the tretyakov gallery, the museum, it’s the same thing, but you know which one, i’m starting get a little mad when people come, and different people come, but since i after all, i work in the ministry of foreign affairs, ambassadors once...

to the circus, there is no such need, we are going to moscow to get to the moscow theater musical, maybe someday it will be so, it will be so, i hope, when we build a building for the theater sorry, they will say, well, we ’ll definitely go there, first to a new opera, then to the moscow theater musical, but if we’re talking very seriously

economically, look at new york, where broadway is such a theatrical thing.

basically a russian musical, well, i’ll repeat it again, but that’s not what i’m talking about, i’m just saying that in russia is a country in this sense capable of choosing any genres, now i ’ll tell you something else, yes, but have you ever heard anything lately that someone wrote a new operetta, no? no, everyone writes, everyone already writes musicals, this is also very unique, i haven’t even heard that an opera has been written, yes, no, well, they still write an opera, yes, from time to time, but no one has written a new aperetta, with that go, say, moscow cheryomushki, which was staged so well on the chamber stage, on the chamber stage, and in the bolshoi theater, what is this, is this aperet, you say, well, shestakovichal, yes,

the score says aperet, aperet, yes, well, how does it differ from the structure of a musical, this is a matter of such an agreement, let ’s say. mikhail afrikovich, thank you so much for this conversation, for coming, thank you very much, thank you, i am very grateful to you for this meeting. our guest was the special representative of the president of the russian federation for international cultural cooperation, artistic director of the moscow musical theater mikhail efemovich shvitkoy. all theater podcast episodes you can. watch on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. hello, dear viewers, you are watching the podcast lab with you its host, tatyana

krasnovskaya, psychologist, psychotherapist, psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, she is today. visiting love, hello, love, hello, tell us what you came to us with, i came with this request, it sounds like this: why do i always feel inadequate in some things, and despite that there are certain successes in life, there is a happy family, my husband and i have been together for 8 years, and we have a business, and it’s successful, profitable, and at the same time , depending on yes... clients of social networks, some kind of comparison of oneself with someone begins, the feeling that, well, that’s something... something is missing, there’s something you haven’t completed, well , probably in the language of psychotherapy it’s called impostor syndrome, well, as i understand it, here ’s how to work with it, what to do with it, if it’s possible, of course, or in what way,

what are there exercise, maybe in order to cope with this syndrome, and so that it probably works in... favor in order to i could use it and somehow transform it, on the contrary, it helped me and gave me some kind of resource, rather than stealing energy and so on. have you tried not to look at social networks? it’s difficult, it’s difficult, well, you need to keep everything under control, and what do you control by browsing social networks? and the successes of my friends, well, somewhere i tell myself, i turn on such a cartoon, that i have seen enough training. well, i need to look at how people are, how people are, well, it seems to me that i need observation of what? observation of content in order to also create high-quality content, because... i have now taken up such a fashion story as the development of a personal brand, since it helps to sell there more effectively and better, all this is very implanted in society,

well, in principle, i like it, i like to lead blog, i like to tell people about what i know, about what i succeeded in, but nevertheless, of course, there is such a certain addiction, but why does it have a million views, yes, and i have a thousand, and of course , this is also... in general, i talk more about business, then if i look at your blog, at best i will have, i don’t know , a question, a request, a thought, a desire to get to know

you, to open a kindergarten, well, most likely to open a business, because some, some, you are talking about the fact that you have impostor syndrome, what is it expressed in, what is the very idea of ​​suffering, that i would like to go out, well, i have this business that i have, it is... on a franchise, it franchised, that is, essentially i have five kindergartens, but i am not the face of this company, i have a request for to sort of open your own, yeah, but there’s a huge fear that your own kindergartens or some other business, another, another business, and what confuses you about your impostor syndrome, that it’s holding me back from moving forward, like well, here you are now sitting talking. with us, how is your impostor syndrome holding you back? well, i’m not doing anything, well, i’m not taking any steps to get this started, let’s call it that, and you

understand what strategic steps need to be taken, in general i understand, well, everything, everything is clear, yes, there everything, everything according to one model it’s been built, but i’m very scared that i don’t know if it’s worth saying this so rudely, well, it won’t work. everyone will point their finger at me, that this is how she is, it would be better if she sat and worked for her uncle, why did she even try to do this, who will say that, the people around, well , what kind of people are there? -specific people bother you, and i was thinking about this, it seems to me that these are always some kind of adult parental figures and it seems to me that this is my grandmother, who knows nothing at all about business.

and so on and so forth, it’s better to sit and not go anywhere, but you proved the opposite, proved the opposite, but there is no recognition, uh-huh, no, well, you did the opposite, not

the way she wanted, well, the opposite, yes, well, so what should she admit, if she wanted you to come back in rags, but you didn’t come back in rags, why do you expect that she should, that is, she should admit that she was wrong, well, well, yes, but i would like so that she admits she is wrong, why, why does she need this? she's like her look let's say your grandmother is now 60 plus , yes 70 plus, well, 70 plus, well, they added 10 years to her, or rather, she's sitting like that , looking, and saying, well, you're only 30 , but at 45, you'll come back in rags, you'll be 45, he 'll say, you know, like after 50 life will twist you, cry and come back with your tail between your legs, well, that is, she will always have this idea that she will still be right anyway. but for some reason you want them to admit that you not only succeeded, but that they were also wrong? well addiction probably from the recognition of the public, from public opinion, their opinion. this is how it

was formed, why did you suddenly decide to play this game, like i’ll prove to you all, it seems to me that these are some kind of completely children’s stories, what, when, well, i now remember the period when i did some attempts, i really didn’t succeed, and the adults said, well, you see, we said, well, it’s not worth trying, and apparently it’s still like this... rebellious nature, it took over, and i decided to prove something to someone, in fact i understand that they all don’t care, but i feel very bad about it, and i suffer from the fact that i don’t get the recognition that i expected, that when i left for moscow, well, in the end, 10 years have passed since that moment, and i don’t i understand where i should move next, it’s like i’m not looking forward to it anymore.

good business, good husband, although there is a demand for honesty and to be honest, but it feels like people don’t want you to be honest, and you show a beautiful picture of your life, how you drive a cool car, and in general you don’t have no experiences, and what kind of people don’t want you, these are your inner circle, these are some friends, but nevertheless you want to. understand, this is what i

should do next in this life, because i already have some kind of business, but i want something more, i want some kind of greater realization, well, i probably want something, maybe to prove to myself that well, i can, you have a good car, well, that suits me, well, i mean, you have a good car, i do, but why are you answering me in a way that suits you, there are better cars, of course, but i didn’t ask this question, you have the best car, darling you have a good car, a good car, huh? and i’m better, how do you feel, curiosity, what else, interest, compare, but exactly, what does it matter to you what kind of car i have, well, you said that yours is better than mine, i said, i just said, now it’s interesting, but let’s say you satisfy your interest, it turns out that it’s really better, that then the next time we meet, i’ll be better, be prepared, look, it turns out that

some kind of emotion is born there , very similar to anger, yes, suppose this is the same anger exactly there , it would just have the opposite effect if my car is worse, really, well, like, now, but pay attention to the fact that i asked you the question, is your car good, the answer is very simple, good, bad , you tell me, it suits me, thus wanting, well, how to stop my dialogue with you, to compare. upon ascending the throne, he made a promise: with me everything will be like with my grandmother. catherine the great did not hide her desire to transfer the throne to her eldest grandson alexander, bypassing her unloved son of pavel petrovich. but it turned out differently. the future emperor joined the conspiracy against paul. so the shadow of parricide will haunt him until his last day. he will spend a quarter of a century on the throne and will go down in history as alexander.

called disgust, he did a lot to strengthen in me the feeling of joy from work, when everything is forgotten, only faith in myself remains. wonderful person. i think that the enormous significance that little faith had for soviet cinema is due precisely to the fact that it is a film without ethical assessments of the heroine's behavior. what do you think is the main difference between working in soviet cinema and american cinema? a sense of one’s own self, one’s own pride, talent, of course, the ability to step on one’s own throat sometimes. and in general , the main thing in my life is that i study the philosophy of language, the philosophy of rhythm and the philosophy of plasticity. dor on friday on the first, and by the way, you can say where you are from, that’s where you moved to moscow, from kazakhstan, from kazakhstan, from almaat or less, from almaat, let’s, okay,

agree that you have enough good car, i’ll probably be right if i assume that your car is, well, better than the car of 80 percent of almaty residents. this is a fact, here they are meeting you, everyone has gathered together, all these residents of this city are at a crossroads by chance, here you are, everyone knows you, everyone knows where you are from, what kind of dirt you are from, here you are like a prince, and your feelings, i feel sorry for them, but why do i feel sorry for them, they look at you, someone is jealous, someone is happy, well, someone might want to let someone down, yeah, well, that’s the most normal thing. probably this is an ego that just like that, i’m a beauty, well, it’s a pity for them , arrogant in the sense, yes, arrogance and a certain one, but at the same time you don’t want to look arrogant, it’s not very

good, there’s some kind of feeling for them to help, or to earn money, but in any case, pay attention, a whole range of feelings and emotions appears, although it would seem, why... be there, why? uh-huh, well, for what, she, well, it’s not necessary, but i have an assumption that these feelings, they’re like as if they were protecting you. but what if a person, one of these people, asks you: lyuba, how did you buy this car? but otherwise, i would say that this is a very interesting question, and the story is very fascinating, by the way, would you tell this story? to be honest, no, i wouldn’t tell you yet, because this is generally a big story. faith, when you have 100,000 rubles, you’re like, yes, i’ll buy myself this car, it doesn’t matter that it costs 3.5 million, well, yes, and you do it, yeah, well, that’s the story, but it ’s still as if please note, but in this there seems to be no history - your

progressive steps, which you can say for sure, look, first, it means i saved up 100,000 rubles, this was enough for, i don’t know, the down payment, let’s assume, yes, then i thought that i i will pay for 7 years.

no, if you have an impostor complex, this is a good sign that tells you that you are not an impostor, that’s interesting, can i ask you a question, this is a little from another opera, you said that you have a good relationship with your husband, so in 8 years you managed to build

a good relationship with your husband, yes, at the same time being business partners in any project, that is, if you are asked now about how this is done, how did you do it, do you have an algorithm in the strategy, a clear understandable algorithm, what did you do? i ’m listening to you now, i understand that, that i really need to digitize my knowledge, digitize some of my successes in order to confirm that... this is really deserved, exactly so, because i remember there, there was a period in kindergarten, when there really was no money to pay salaries, i had a chain that was given to me, and i i pawned it in a pawnshop in order to somehow cover my obligations to employees, and of course, when you remember these stories, you think, well, how would i take certain actions so that today, firstly, this business scales, so that... in general, in general, it somehow functions, well

, brings benefit to people, but at least, nevertheless , i’m probably narrowing it down too much, but this is the concept of the path, i take, as it were, the starting point, so i look at myself today and i think, well, i was just lucky, well, at the right time, just lucky, then it is impossible to become an expert, then it is impossible to feel confident about it, but if you see all the things that you have gone through along the way in relation. you asked about relationships, i think i don’t know how to answer, well, i’m just lucky, my husband is great, and even there is no understanding , the relationship may not be very good, yes, that is, i have no concept of understanding some kind of algorithm, that is, where it is necessary sometimes remain silent, yes, but these were objectively moments when you make some wise decision that subsequently helps there. to save, for example, a marriage, so this is what you need

to figure out, yeah, you have, let’s call it bluntly, yes, cases, you have such successful cases that you just need to parse like this, with this algorithm, then you won’t you will need approval, neither from your grandmother, nor from anyone from the outside, then most likely you will have a question: do you need this large-scale business, your own, or what you have now is what you really... do you want and what do you do in general, is it what you want, what makes you happy actually, moreover, no matter what you think, the second part i wanted to say, the first one is about the fact that impostors do not have an impostor complex, the second simple thing i said, two things you need to remember , the second is just how you yourself came to this, to digitize your experience, relatively speaking, yes, digitize, so if they wake you up tomorrow night and ask, like, how did you get there? who you have become, let’s assume, yes there, why do you live in moscow and not in

almaat, why do you live like this and not like that, there is a very important point here, that even as a child i never agreed with where i was, well, conventionally, i didn’t want to be there, i always wanted to be there in another place, that’s it, this is the first decision that was, and yes, your loved ones, solely out of love for you and the desire to protect you, told you all sorts of phrases, such as where: was born there, fit there and a lot of other things, in this sense , you did not agree with this and being disagreeable, this is the first step, so tomorrow if you are asked how to open a business, the first thing you need to say is this you have to be prepared to disagree with where you are, yeah, under no circumstances agree with what you earn there, i don’t know that much money, and not 10 times more, let’s assume, yes or that you drive such and such a car, and not a better one, well then.

do you want to be on glossy covers because your grandma or because it’s your desire? here i have such polar opposite paths emerging, because we have now moved into a house and it’s so cool for me, but it’s so far from moscow, and i understand that in order to be on the move, you need to be here, because there is a certain atmosphere, a rhythm, but i feel so good there, and i am

so, i even called it a quiet haven, so i just feel good, and i want, on the contrary, i have now a desire appeared, to be such a mother, with a child, and now my eldest son will go to school, somehow do homework with him, something else, but at the same time , this is the background, what is needed, business is needed some kind of, well, of course, there is a certain race, you ’ve been training for this all your life, you’ve been training. so i’m probably here today in order to really understand the truth of my desire, do i really want to go where i’m telling everyone what i want, so let’s imagine that you - relatively speaking, are already there, don’t even need to tell me where, well, you have more money there, the business

is larger and so on, there is some kind of the best house there, and so on and so forth, and now imagine that... along the path that, well during the journey that you are going through, it so happened that all the people who are important people for you today, grandmother, mother, father, friends, girlfriends, there and so on, they all disappeared, this goal will still be relevant for you, i can’t say that it’s 100% right, this is one, one of the test tasks is like, well , it doesn’t matter, i want to change my car, yes, but what if no one ever finds out about this car, or, for example, i want to become famous, and what if suddenly... i become famous, but in brazil and no one in russia will ever know that i became the most famous presenter in brazil, as i wish it would still be just as good, or i would still like it, this will be a condition, let’s say you will need to sign a contract, yes, which, in which you are so shady, yeah, this is a shady success, yes, you, you you will do something, you will achieve everything, but it is such

a secret, no one will ever know what car you drive, no one will ever know how much you earn, no one will know that you are in charge. this business, well , this could be like this, and if you are still interested in it, then it’s definitely yours, then you you will be ready to move mountains for this, but if there is still some classmate standing there who should see you fall from envy, then with a high degree of probability you will not impress her, because she will always devalue your experience, your result, and the main thing is that you won’t get this prize, you won’t... be happy there, because there will never be enough there, and yes, i can’t say that this is very interesting for me, but what’s interesting is publicity, media exposure, fame, that’s it. these are the concepts, okay, this can also be in brazil or there in north korea, you will be

the most famous in northern italy somewhere, no, maybe in italy, but no one will know you there, except, well, i mean , the italians will know you, my children will know . my husband, then this is for the children and husband, well, yes, why do you want to show it to them? well, this is the same phrase: so that they are proud of me, so that the children sit and watch, oh my mother and they show here, they don’t value her at all, they don’t value me at all, they don’t value me, so imagine, i still believe in this illusion that what will appreciate what it will be somehow inspire them,

for example, myself in childhood, when i was at school, some students came to our teachers, there, well, who graduated from school 10 years ago, and these are some guys, yes there, it’s like we’re 12, and he’s 22, he came back from the army in uniform, i’m just visiting, i then dreamed of being a military man.