i have an assistant, that is, there are a lot of experiments with unmanned vehicles, but in the sense that an unmanned car drives wherever it wants and it’s fine, this is not there , i have been talking about this for a long time already and talking about what if there will be a contour, a special environment, whatever you want to call it, technologically, simply humanly, then yes, then an unmanned vehicle makes sense and it will drive, but if, for example, on a city scale, this is not a chess game, where the computer can itself... learn to play with you, this is not a game go, this is an environment that is changing, where it is changing dynamically and unpredictably, that is , driverless cars, while this is a research project, a project, i just want to bridge the gap, that when you said about subjectivity, i remembered that in 2011, when the watson computer , in my opinion, yes, jeopardy won, one of the philosophers said that watson does not know that he defeated jeopardy, this, it seems to me, is a very important topic, that a person in a situation where he does not have... . pre-prepared

algorithm, it dives to a certain depth, there is nowhere for artificial intelligence to dive, well, that is, there is no spare space there from which the necessary algorithms could be quickly pulled up to solve this issue, well, by the way, i also remembered this now, i read somewhere that if we compare a human brain with a computer, yes, then we still proceed from the fact that a computer is a deterministic system, that is, under the same conditions, yes, we get one and...

it has the right to life, it has shown its capacity, but so this is necessary to assume that we have a fairly effective tool for solving the problem, now we need, based on the complexity that this technology represents, we must manage risks, make sure that it does not cause harm, and make maximum use, well, as always, in principle life of mankind, there was a nuclear reactor, some other technology, but don’t treat it like now let’s implement it everywhere at any cost, because...

it’s profitable, well, it’s clear that when you let a person through on the subway , well, what the difference, well, even if he deceives and comes in, well, let him come in, it won’t affect anything, but if he goes to a nuclear facility, for example, it’s probably not worth the risk there and there should also be protection circuits to check exactly what he or it’s not him, here - here it seems to me that world practice is already moving in this direction, the europeans are generally tough, so they announced in may, we discussed this at our conference, now, in my opinion , they have accepted that they divide artificial intelligence into ... three parts, one part will simply be prohibited, for example, there is the collection of biometrics in public places, social scoring, the second part will definitely be regulatory, well, for example, in aviation, you know, there are strict rules, it’s just that if you are not developing an operating system for aviation from scratch, for example, it is impossible to certify, that is, it is quite strict, and there is no artificial intelligence, this is ordinary software, but it is an extremely dangerous zone and , accordingly, there are costs for certification for support for... many times more than for

the development itself, we are doing this, so i know this well, we are making a real-time operating system ourselves , finally, the third part, when you can use it as you want, it doesn’t affect anything, well, for example, the entrance to the subway, from my point of view, can be entered into the third part, well, a person comes in, or in the dining room, for example, admission, well, well, he’ll eat it one more time, but on a large scale it doesn’t matter, this needs to be discussed somehow in our society, because now the opinions were very different, some believe that there is no need to regulate it at all. some believe that, on the contrary, everything needs to be regulated, as is the case in other countries, but we really need this discussion so that we understand, and at the same time be based on scientific knowledge, and not because we are afraid of it, let’s go there, if we move away from fears and look in the opposite direction, these are the main hopes that we can place for the development of this technology, father pavel, you, well, it seems to me that the main hope is that we will have the opportunity to make such

a qualitative leap in understanding the depth of formal data processing, even if we take, relatively speaking, languages ​​there, because today... we are all witnesses to how much the quality of translation has advanced not only from modern languages, but also from ancient ones, for example, i don’t speak the ancient armenian language there, but today, thanks to artificial intelligence, i can generally imagine what the holy fathers talked about there is interesting for me during this period, that is, a completely new one is opening up, something that was completely inaccessible to me in my status before. with my level of knowledge, an area that i can already use, plus or minus enough adequately, i think that, of course, this is a huge help. on the other hand, remembering the story of our seminarians who tried to write a sermon and were then

very upset by the fact that, in general, not each of them could write such a sermon that it would be guaranteed to pass the test of the teacher, this is also great, why ? because... here a completely different perspective opens up, and from the christian anthology we understand that a person without god is not a person, in this sense i really like the image that father sergei bulgakov uses, he says that in a person there is a hole drilled into infinity, that

’s why i really like this image, but the hole does not have its own nature, you know, that is, this opens up, in my opinion, an absolutely amazing perspective , because on the one hand this is an advantage and hope, on the other hand , of course, there are risks associated with the loss of jobs, this is discussed there, well, understandable, but from the point of view of our huge country, where the population is not very large, this is automation this kind of order will help us master what is now difficult, in this sense

it is even easier for us in some sense, agriculture, for example, well, we need to increase its efficiency, automate it, this is all connected again with artificial intelligence, because in traditional ways, if to do this, it’s just very expensive, in medicine, in fact, most of us just don’t go to doctors, to be honest, well, i mean the population, and that’s why we ’re doing what we’re trying to do in this direction move and those that screen the population constantly passive, for example, through the devices that we carry with us, there is a single-channel connection now in watches, and a person can be brought to the doctor sooner, and as you know, the earlier the diagnosis is made, the better he can be treated. from my point of view, this will not lead to the fact that doctors will not be needed, on the contrary, the pressure will be even greater, doctors will be needed more, but the efficiency factor can increase sharply, that is, if before we served i don’t know 100 people there, then we can do 10 thousand, but more, and moreover, a good doctor will be able to convey his knowledge to the regions, even to villages,

where sometimes there are no doctors, god forbid that there is a filsher, that is, these are simple examples and there are a lot of them, in fact, i’m not even talking about production, where i have been using it for a long time .

then it doesn’t look like anything, because ford argued that the speed at which this happens is unprecedented, and never a single invention, including electricity, has ever given such results when our negative effect exceeded the possible result in the long term positive, so far he was wrong, judging by his forecast, but are there any risks here? if you allow me, i won’t just answer, but maybe i’ll turn your question into a very practical plane. youth, and i remember very well

that if you had any problem interacting with some different services, there was always a hotline number, you could call somewhere, and after some time you would hear a live voice, a live operator , which in one way or another would be included in your problem, today such an option is practically absent, because in in most of these... cases, you find yourself switched to artificial intelligence, which will ask you questions using a very tough, algorithmic method, at some point it just throws you out and says: that’s it, my capabilities have been exhausted, it turned out that what seems to be should have made it easier to solve the problem, but in the end it simply drives the person into a dead end, and you understand that listen, what’s the point of calling there if i most likely won’t solve this issue anyway. well, this is a pebble in your city, in fact, i think these are just the questions

more or less the next 5-10 years there will definitely be resolved, because now translators are already appearing right away, you can hang it in your ear and communicate with each other in different languages, i just returned from china, there - the girl in the hotel didn’t say a word at all i don’t know english, she had a device on which she spoke chinese, translated it into english, everything was fine, not the other way around, that is, the profession was under threat, we communicated. without translators, she calmly understood everything, we did everything, that is, potentially, of course, in a mass sense, yes, but this does not mean that professional translators will not be needed for specialized stories, in this sense, well, yes, there is a social danger that some professions will be unclaimed, well, once upon a time the same thing happened with horses , but this is the story, it doesn’t seem so dramatic to me if we manage it all correctly. that is, especially for our country, where we have quite large resources and a small population, we need to

fight to improve the quality of this population, that’s what you need to invest in, in secondary education at school, first of all, in general, so that the population is literate, then they will be able to get involved in all these processes, use these technologies for the benefit, let’s talk about education, here i got to my point favorite topic, you said in some interview that when we had a chair as magim, and there, in my opinion, the mathematician gasnikov, yes, talked about how articles are written with the help of a bot and, if i understand correctly, you just cited this as an example of such, well, correct use, and i ended up on some kind of bot, well, in general, he says, write whatever you want, that means neural networks, please, the demo version is free, and i entered a task on a topic that was clear to me on the topic of my dissertation, neural network generated twenty-seven-page text very quickly in 3 minutes. well, part of the text was closed, because the demo version, yes, i couldn’t use it without paying, but i can

say with complete responsibility that more than half of my students won’t write such a text, let alone in 3 days, in 3 weeks, the question, i’m sharpening it specifically as a polemical one, is what ’s good about this? the problem of education, from my point of view, cannot be solved if you don’t have an elite, but if we didn’t have a glass chemistry department in our country, there wouldn’t be any mathematical education on the scale of the union, and to train an elite... if we don’t have this , then of course, if it doesn’t interfere, this is again a threat,

a risk, but we can manage this risk, and the teacher himself can no longer distinguish in the sense that a person cannot interview him to understand that he is not let’s build the education system correctly, that ’s understandable, well then the problem, yes, that’s a different question, therefore, that’s why i am, that’s why in elite places it doesn’t cause problems, because there you either run a hundred meters in the required number of seconds, or you don’t run.

what you think is right is quite possible, but this is a different level, and again this cannot be solved by prohibitions or restrictions, you know, i would like to pick up a little on the topic of the need for elites, from which perspective, it seems to me, the active introduction of high technologies, it puts

the need for a request for appearance is particularly acute.

to give this technological opportunity, i would say even more radically, if we have gone in this direction, if we do not disentangle the idea of ​​a person from a function, if we do not return to the understanding that a person is a seeker of truth, goodness, love, beauty , otherwise then, in general, artificial intelligence, no matter how we define it, it has already destroyed us, i am afraid that we are now again endowing artificial intelligence

with subjectivity, we are trying this more than once i affirm that this is not so, there is no need to be afraid of it, but i... i am an opponent of serving the profession as such, i will explain why, because, well, if it turns out that i don’t know, serving the profession contradicts serving the homeland, what then to choose , or family, for example, or friendship, that’s what’s more important, it’s in a person, that’s the struggle, probably, internal to a person and talking, as a person whose profession is unlikely to come into conflict, for example, very often arises, so you make some kind of technology, it can always be used in different ways, here as if an important question, for me it was a discovery that, relatively speaking , the professional amateurism of a knight in all matters, it was a guarantee, it was still a guarantee that he was not engaged by any profession, by any internal, so to speak, conditioning ,

well, of course, this would be a cultural interpretation beyond all this, yes. a breakthrough that should make life easier, it always throws it back first, because, as lotman said, he had, he spoke in terms of technology and culture, he he said that technology has not yet become culture, but now it has appeared.

that in lotman’s terms, technology does not have time to become culture, i absolutely agree, moreover, we are right here, each of us can see that throughout our lives these so -called revolutions took place several times, although from the point of view of a person who it is engaged in, it’s just an evolutionary development, the world around it has changed, and what is happening now in social networks is just the beginning, because we will be immersed there more and more, there are already countries where millions of people simply don’t leave their homes at all. as an ordinary person, i don’t see anything good, from the point of view of these people, they already live in this normal for them, and it seems to me that human adaptive mechanisms

are still not limitless at some point, this is also changes, does not allow, let’s say, a person to come to god, because there is no time anymore, he lives all the time in a comfortable environment, without understanding that he is eating a hamburger, and not eating a steak, i don’t know, and he, because that everything seems to be there, everything seems to be fine. there is entertainment, and digital entertainment will all be cheaper, cheaper, this is also something that is not talked about much, but if digital education, the digital environment, this is also a reduction in price, on the one hand it seems to be available to everyone, on the other hand it is everything it may not be of the highest quality, because our educational experience shows that there should still be a combined method, that is, digitalization is very good, but not enough, it does not completely replace the human one. communication, but it’s difficult for me imagine that with a priest only through the digital world, and this is what we are heading for , to be honest, but on the other hand, we, as orthodox people, probably understand

what is ahead, what awaits us, so in this sense, that we are moving, moving in this direction is also not surprising, so our task is to create the situation as much as possible so that these technologies do not harm us, but still allow us to maintain our quality. our country, us, our inner content, although this is a loss to each of us sometimes even if we don’t feel it . of course, we do not keep up with technology, and technology itself cannot replace the internal development of the potential for beauty that a person has, so accordingly, what we can contrast here is, well, probably some specific internal experience of a certain practice, practices, i would call them a kind of advanced asceticism, yes, which may well be applicable, hygiene, yes, which are not necessarily for people who are church believers, they can be quite universal, that is

if society at some point understands that this disproportion of technology to man, this is the impossibility of scaling technology without taking into account the fact for whose sake everything exists, and it will create a corresponding request for such asceticism. i think we can find exactly the same approach to the cultivation of technology that othman spoke about. great, let's hope so. i have one last question, if possible, in blitz mode, yes, very briefly, today there are a lot of opportunities, using the program, to get answers to some of your questions, yes, so-called chats that give you options for solutions, one colleague admitted to me that he said, i don’t make any decisions at all without consulting. do you use it in your life, if so, in what cases? i

use it only in the case of translation, i don’t use it due to professional necessity, of course i keep my finger on the pulse, but i don’t use such everyday life, and generative artificial intelligence, which is all.

that the next few years i'm sure it's just will essentially be criminalized, those who post content that does not have such watermarks will be subject to regulation, i think that our country and everyone else will follow this path, because otherwise it won’t work, what’s my point? i’ll tell you this, this is one example of how society is gradually starting to do this, at least to limit not in the sense of what to prohibit, but what i, as a consumer, have the right to know, i’m

looking, is it my neighbor talking or... pavel velikanov, associate professor of moscow theological academy, i’m vladimir ligoida, today we were gathering thoughts about artificial intelligence, fears, hopes about it, all the best, hello everyone, this is a podcast deception of substances, this is

zosh for the desperate. and i am hosting it, olesya nosova, editor-in-chief of komsomolskaya pravda, endocrinologist pavlova. well, today we’ll probably talk about something that people don’t actually know about, about proper cooking of food, because how, with the help of proper cooking, you can improve a product, make it more useful, so, in fact, make it worse. for example, the easiest way is to add extra salt to the food you are preparing. there is such a trick, for example, in general. do not add salt to the dish while cooking, but for the vast majority of people this is unacceptable, they believe that the dish becomes somehow wrong, that’s what you think about this, we have a lot of stereotypes , a lot of habits that have been with us since childhood all our lives, and we often hear people say: my grandmother, my mother cooked this way, i will cook this way, refer to their longevity, for example, but what is the point of adding salt to an already prepared dish?

the only point is that salt is iodized, when we add salt to the dish being prepared, it loses this very iodine, that is, the most valuable thing , in fact, moreover, when we prepare a dish, these are some large volumes, and we add this salt by eye, we don’t understand, strictly speaking, whether there is a tablespoon or two tablespoons, and how much each individual person will then eat, the point is precisely not to overeat salt, because it’s like you... we found out the most bad habit, which has the most detrimental effect on our health, so when we cook, we should not add salt to the dish, we should add salt to the cooked dish on our plate, this way we understand how much salt we used, and moreover, we can train ourselves not to over-salt this food, this is really a very important point, because as you know, not long ago a study came out that

identified the 15 most harmful... eating habits, such as over-salting, excess salt - this is the first item that has taken such an honorable place in this ranking, so it’s really better to add salt to the food on your plate, well, there are also some very interesting data, here is also the latest study, but it turns out that if a man over 50 years old adds salt to his food, after he has already accepted it, ready-made, so to speak, it shortens his life more. than for 2 years, are there any recommendations on how much salt you should eat per day? yes, and this is also a big discovery for many, because you need to eat everything 5 g of salt per day, no more, this is a level teaspoon, as a rule, most people receive almost twice as much of this same salt, and why is there so much attention to salt? the main cause of death in the whole world is cardiovascular diseases, it is salt that

increases blood pressure, well... it began from the moment salt began to be consumed, this is approximately, according to some preliminary calculations, a little more than 5.00 years when the chinese first discovered that salt is an excellent preservative, we understand that before there were no refrigerators, it was impossible to preserve food in any other way, but food that was salted, added salt, sometimes re-salted, it was preserved, and this was the most important point, because the risk of dying from hunger was, well, so dominant, probably, after infections. or some other such dangerous things for humans, so when we oversalt, we retain sodium, sodium retains water, here you have, in fact, an increase in the risk of arterial hypertension, and then such terrible things happen, how everything went, but then,

it’s probably also important to say that it’s not that a person sits down and eats this teaspoon or two tablespoons a day, it’s hidden salt, it’s what we don’t know, what we don’t notice, for example , if we buy bread, there is salt in the bread, by the way, it’s interesting, but in general a person can live without salt, but if a person just doesn’t add salt to anything, well, since we still eat ready-made food, and in many ways, but we don’t we can prepare everything completely at home, then it is not left without salt, this is absolutely true, and if you don’t add salt, then no disaster will happen, but if you try to completely eliminate salt from your diet, then this is also not entirely correct, because salt plays an important role. in our body, well, banal things, in order to develop digestive enzymes, we need certain substances that salt brings, that is, there is sodium, there is chlorine, depending on what kind of salt, for example, sea salt, yes, if it is not

purified, this salt , then there will be more than eighty different microelements, they are all very important, but there are not so many of them amount to get an excess, but here it is also important to note that when people give preference to some... other salt, for example, not this purified one, then along with useful microelements we also receive very harmful substances, heavy salts metals, cadmium, mercury, mouse, what kind of salt are we talking about, what does unrefined mean, let’s say, but there are many lovers of himalayan salt, for example, all this exotic expensive salt, yes exotic expensive salt, the fact is that this unrefined salt , she will also bring salt heavy metals, and this is very harmful to the body, therefore. i wouldn’t support this story, and it’s better to use purified, addiated salt, preferably, then we get what we understand, what we need, and we don’t get these heavy metal salts. by the way, regarding himalayan or

pink salt, they often say that there is a lot of iron in it, pink, this pink tint is precisely due to iron, nothing like that, of course there is iron there, but there are such tiny amounts of it, so don’t be fooled, don't overpay. the risk of iodine deficiency in our diet is high, with it there are a large number of all sorts of consequences , not only for pregnant women and children, but also for adults, well, of course, that is, the most important thing, as we understand, is to use normal salt, not to add salt during the cooking process , add salt only during

consumption, then you are guaranteed to eat less salt, good, but what to do with pickles, pickles and so on, red caviar, yes, by the way, here is red caviar in... thank you for remembering this wonderful product , there are 6 g of salt per 100 g, imagine, so don’t be overzealous, when you eat caviar, it’s still salt, as for pickled cucumbers, if you don’t eat these products in excess, and always taking into account existing diseases, then of course in small quantities these are quite healthy products, if it comes especially about such a product as sauerkraut, because sauerkraut... cabbage, in my opinion, is generally an elixir, well, practically, what are these products good for, if they are not pickled, just salted, first about the benefits, these are fermented products, fermented products for our body, these are products that contribute to the production of substances, for example,

short-chain fatty acids, so as not to overload anyone with biochemistry, so these substances are practically medicines for our intestines, and the large intestine is 80% of lymphoid tissue. that is, immune tissue, and that means we immediately mean that our immune system is improving, which means we are less likely to get sick from all sorts of viral, bacterial, infectious diseases, and much more... other, including prevention of cancer, because if our intestinal wall is not very healthy, then through these, say, damaged areas , hormonal substances can penetrate, which should have been excreted and in no case should have ended up in the blood, so in terms of oncology here is such a mechanism, so fermented products are healthy, including sauerkraut, well , not only cabbage is fermented, other products are also fermented. zucchini, cucumbers, and many others.

there is another very important point, which often missed. there is such an important, important aspect - seasonality. yes, we can’t eat good, ground tomatoes or cucumbers in december, they simply shouldn’t be there. they can be grown in greenhouses, but this is not at all the same as growing naturally in the summer. therefore, fermentation, in this regard, absolutely perfectly replaces these seasonal products and... our immune system feels very good in this regard, when we do not eat strawberries in december, we give the opportunity to cleanse ourselves from various such biological substances in the body for the arrival of certain products, so pickled fermented products are our everything, but don’t forget that there is salt, yes, because salt is always added to such products, and what to do, you need to somehow wash the sauerkraut from excess salt or or what? it’s advisable not to overeat, so adding vegetable oil

to the same sauerkraut is precisely the factor that improves the taste, reducing this saltiness and on the tongue, but it’s better not to deceive yourself with vegetable oil oil in this regard and not get extra calories, but simply don’t over-salt these products, so it’s advisable not to add sugar to them initially, but with sugar it’s such a setup, to put it mildly, because it seems like... cabbage cabbage , you begin to sort of disassemble it into parts, you understand that sugar has definitely been added there, there is another trick: five-minute cabbage, this is when it looks like sauerkraut, but in fact it is cooked very quickly with the help of vinegar, and so on and so forth further, this is not at all this is a magical product that can be recommended to everyone, but it’s really not that useful, including for people with gastrointestinal pathologies. with some diseases, yes, there are pancreatitis,

colitis, here it’s not at all good, again, fermented foods, if a person has hypertension, yes, high cardiovascular risks, then here really, the less salt, the less will be its consequences, increased blood pressure, swelling, and so on, so you need to take into account the initial data - the person, in addition, a very important aspect, because we never, when we studied at the medical institute, otherwise... at first the question arose: why do we need physics, yes, why do we need mathematics, we are doctors, biology, chemistry and so on, well, all our body and the whole world in general, this is physics, chemistry, mathematics, and we need to know these laws, including the salt that enters our body, holds liquid in the vessels along with proteins, otherwise we would simply lose it all, from the vessels everything flowed out of the cells, so salt is also necessary, it holds this one here osmatic... retains liquid where it should be, that is, salt allows us

to maintain our shape, yes, you can say so, briefly, yes, and to produce digestive enzymes, in fact, to live. you can watch all episodes of the podcast deception of substances on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. hello, the program is about the most notable events of this day: reaching the heights, vladimir putin presented gold stars to heroes of labor and state awards to those who live their business in the name of the country. you are the only one

russia day, from the kuril islands to crimea and donbass, a declaration of love for the country in which we live with pride and faith in the future. our iskanders are in the top ten against the enemy's air defense division, defeat is confirmed, and work, assault day and night and drone battles. flags are coming to visit us, tours are flowing to russia before the end of spring. increased by 40%. interesting routes, vacation spots and new horizons. a diamond of a golden ring in the chambers of the suzdal kremlin, for the millennium of the city, a museum without... valuable artifacts from icons to the finest weapons. so, today is russia day, a holiday countries with a long glorious history, with a rich culture, with people who are heroes in battle and in labor. those who have achieved special success, each in their own place, contributing to the common future, were invited to the st. george hall

of the kremlin. vladimir putin presented the highest decorations and state awards. report by anastasia kobazeva. outstanding. achievements in science, industry, agriculture and art. laureates of state prizes and heroes of labor are honored at the highest level on russia day; this is already a tradition. what unites these of people? first of all, loyalty to your work. many have been in the profession for several decades, but what is important is what the country has acquired thanks to their work and skill. in the hands of the guardsmen of the presidential regiment are cases with awards. exactly 20, every hero of labor and state prize laureate is greeted with applause in the st. george's hall. sadovnichy viktor antonovich, kovalchuk, mikhail valentinovich, khubutia mageli shalvovich. and now everything is in its place, but the award ceremony itself began later. first, the president congratulated

the residents of the big country on the holiday. expensive friends, colleagues, congratulations on russia day. this is a holiday in honor of our homeland, we celebrate it with respect for our country, with veneration for its centuries-old history, the covenants of our ancestors, their achievements and victories. and now it is especially important to be united, the president says, russian statehood has gone through many difficult, even tragic periods, but our... people have always overcome all difficulties, obstacles and adversities, created and increased the greatness of the fatherland. today, in difficult times for our country, we are once again united by patriotism and responsibility for the fate of the homeland. these feelings are near and dear to each of us. they serve as a reliable support

for participants in a special military operation. the whole country, our multinational people, supports our heroes. one can say something about each of those who are in the kremlin today. corporation, i personally, my experience, knowledge, we will give everything to solve the tasks that you have set for the country, and, of course, the education system, science, as the main driving force of the country's future. the title of hero of labor was also awarded to academician, grain crop breeder, lyudmila

bespalova, in the industry for half a century, together with a team of scientists, created almost 130 varieties of wheat, their advantage is high as... we have our own wheat, we have our own bread, and you know that we feed the world, yes, because up to 50 million tons grain is sent abroad, the same award was awarded to the general director of sevmash mikhail budnichenko, he began his career as a woodworker in the main slipway workshop, built nuclear submarines of the second and third generations, for more than 10 years he has been heading one of... of largest shipbuilding complexes countries. in 12 years, 12 nuclear submarines have been commissioned ; in recent years, we have been commissioning two or three boats per year for the last 3 years. there were no such rates, well, even in soviet times. eltugan syzdykov, the developer of missiles that hit targets deep behind enemy lines, was also awarded a gold star. in the nineties, we,

weapons developers.