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says, let’s choose, okay, considering that you have a new year and march 9, and then we have another 9 months of joyless life, well, let’s have first class on september 1, a great occasion, have a holiday, this is a holiday of transfer of responsibility, when you cover table, put the cake, you tell them that yes, that's it, school, your responsibility, so great, you are big on the eve, ask them, please, choose, at this moment it would be nice to indicate the budget, say,
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choose, accept, do choice, but this is the moment, what to do with your own hands, the way i used to do it even as a child, that is, we didn’t have the habit of buying something like this, we actually did something ourselves, this moment is just about flowers, making a cake and so on, we don’t do this much, from the point of view gifts to celebrate something, we really don’t do that much. very important,
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because time will pass, 10 years will pass, you ask a child what they gave you for your 7th birthday, he will not tell you, because this thing means nothing to him, this is one thing in a thousand, otherwise he i went with you there, i don’t know, on a hike and fried bread over a fire, then how she, then how she made cakes with her mother and doused herself there with some kind of chocolate, then what was the effect... did this cake turn on dad, then, how she first saw, opening her eyes on march 8, that her dad and brother brought her coffee in bed, this is something that remains forever, nothing material from a huge list remains, of course, if it’s a big dream, well, let’s say, i don’t know, there for 5 years they dreamed of a dog, now they got a puppy, yes, it’s an emotion, but another car, another construction set, they don’t mean anything at all, their number needs to be minimized,
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minimized as much as possible and immediately come up with a storage system, because what you are talking about is a separate traumatic factor for you, which means you bought a construction set, bought a container, that’s it, that’s it there is a container, okay, this is your construction set, shovel it there, that’s it, take it, go take it to your zone, which we have allocated, this is not in your brother’s zone, not in the common area, in your zone, put this construction set, it would be good later remind periodically about what you remember, how you dreamed about it, oh, how cool, you’ll probably be able to assemble it, and maybe you need help, yes, because for a child, when he looks at a complex toy, it’s even positioned like that, it is even advertised as spending time together with parents and he is waiting, perhaps for this help, perhaps she is thinking that you will help her at this moment, or maybe in general there is a designer in the desires, you come to the store together, great do this together, you...
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go to the store and say: yes, there is this construction set, no problem, we can buy it, but look, here there is a game that we can play with the whole family, here i don’t know, something came out interesting for creativity, we can also spend time together here, because any material thing is just accompanying material for the emotions with which it is associated, maybe offering them, you know, forms of exchange, okay, masha has this, and you have it. "come on, masha and i invite each other to swap for a week, bring it to her in kindergarten, she will take your construction set, and you will take her construction set, you will play with this thing, so desired, which you have added to your list, you will understand that you really need it, please tell me, they go to the garden, but with something they also study, maybe they have some clubs, you were a little tense at the beginning about the teaching materials, not too much, it’s probably, i just don’t know what it’s called, these are different developments.”
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just a fun exercise on development of logic, by category, by the way, this is also one moment about material things, i can’t say that we are buying a lot from one category, but it turns out that i bought, say , some kind of developmental notebooks, because i see that my puzzles are interesting, and then there are for creativity there, let’s say a couple of sets of some... something, because my daughter says, i like creativity, here’s a set, well, i don’t... i mean, i buy it, but over time, let’s say, i say, okay, there’s a salary, let’s look at it, take something, whatever let's study the technique, or for some exhibition, if you want in the garden, come on let's do something together, and then
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some kind of sports, something like that, let's say, but what do they do in general , sports, running, jumping, standing on their ears, about sports sections, that is, my daughter went to a creative studio, it's not sporty. that's all, why did they go to the same place, only to another trainer, now, this has already happened, now what, they are giving up , is this happening? we refused to pay for these , that is, my husband and i do roller tricks, subscriptions, because we started having problems with discipline, because this turned out to be the extreme point when i stopped taking the program out, it felt like... we had reached a dead end with these situations, with discipline, agreements, with cleaning the room, and i realized that we need to go back to the beginning, to the beginning, without toys, without these, without everything, start talking to the children, and i explained to them why this is the case, that we are taking
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a month off, because they began to disrupt training, they began to, well, fool around, do what they want, and i understand that that is, contact with the child is lost, that is something is happening there.
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from whom there was a request, that is, we began to optimize his training, well, the second one and the second one arranged everything, i don’t remember, but we changed it then, that is, this is how i understood it. that’s all the child is, that is, he has already stopped understanding the meaning of training, he has stopped liking it, because he already wants to be here, he doesn’t feel like he’s at home there, he says, i haven’t played there for 3 days, well nastya, i have a little feeling that this is probably your peculiarity, i don’t know, your
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my wife didn’t see everything, it’s a little hyper , there’s a lot of everything, you want coloring books, a lot, you want a construction set, a lot, let’s do different workouts, no, i wouldn’t say it’s a lot, i would know how i outlined this moment, there’s also no need for a diet in this regard , so my question is that there is only one coloring, one section, so everything is one by two, a little, and why then everything was so full and the section, because in general the mass, that is, due to the fact that they are growing , every day some wishes from the garden are added, some information, they communicate. that is, they also receive information , let’s say they talked to the grandmothers there, the grandmother gave some ideas in the kindergarten, and besides, i’m in the frame of spending time with the children, i also bought board games, because my husband and i used to play them played, we
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decided to buy something for the family, for traditions, to buy a game, perhaps my mistake was that it was with a minimal difference of... only two, that is, one notebook by stas, because it’s clear, well, handouts understandable, but why games? double copy, no, the game in general, i mean that for the most part it turns out that we buy two things, but for children it looks like a big pile of things that mom brought, that is, because some things, for example, sometimes they come at once, sometimes something else, they don’t see this division, that this is a game - this is separate, a creative set is for creativity. is your son just playing football, before that he also did roller skating and continues
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to play football now or is he also punished? we took a vacation, i didn't call it punishment, i in fact, this was the moment when the children and i, when they understood me, i say, you and i have problems, we argue, mom is a dragon, dad is also a dragon, when he comes after work, we cannot agree. but is this the way we want it to be in our family, the children are like, well, no, this is not very cool, i just can’t understand why you deprived them of sports, why you deprived them of clubs, what kind of vacation, strange, strange very much a vacation option when you are deprived of something important, man, yes, i can understand that the whole room was taken out there in general, even down to the bare walls, they removed all the toys, they removed all the books, they removed all the development games, why did they remove what was really first-class? priority for them, because when the coaches started saying that the child is crying, the child is not doing, well,
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this is the coach’s problem, he is an adult there , it’s like a teacher calling you in the middle of the working day and saying: listen, mom, come to kindergarten, your children are arguing here, solve the problem with them, but this is strange, this also happens, this is also strange, this is a question, maybe he’s telling us, it means we have to do something, no, they tell you because they understand that you are such excellent parents, and now the excellent parents will come. will subordinate the children to us , it will be convenient for us, the coach, an adult, he wants him to be comfortable, so that everything is like this, oh, we run, oh, we jump, oh, in kindergarten , too, everyone should be comfortable, this is some kind of question of not rebuilding boundaries with these adults, because sometimes we just don’t understand, and where are the boundaries in relation to children, because children are at 8 o’clock in garden, then let’s go to training, i try not to look at training. not to be there, because this is the time of the child, his formation, his development, that is, i’m leaving,
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then you’ll tell me how the training went, maybe they’ll start, this is generally the paid time left, they’re gone, this is the coach’s job, the man is 7 years old, the husband is not 2 years old , and we can’t always track this moment, where in relation to sports and training, where are we, where are our boundaries as parents, and what we should explain, show, tell.
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when we, well, let us complain about some situations, they told us what’s wrong, that we need to do something, they don’t always say that we, accordingly , turn to us, to ourselves, and think about what can be done, to a psychologist, for example, we probably start from ourselves, if we can’t cope, we go to a psychologist. in our kindergarten i contacted him, because well, a person needs a person from the category, i say, i’m not taking the program out, and at the same time i don’t want to quarrel with the child either, because i want him to come to me for support as an adult, to be such experience, they helped, if not with everything, but they gave recommendations on how to experiment at home. create some kind of tradition or something to pay attention to, sometimes they said: there is no need,
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there is no need to do anything here, and we are like, okay, no need, no need, we abstract ourselves, we come to an agreement with my husband, this is very good advice for us, i tell you i’ll also tell you now, when a coach tells you: do something, you tell him, thank you, definitely, definitely, but for you it doesn’t mean it’s necessary, because this is his area of ​​​​responsibility, you entrusted child, he is taking care of your child, he is 7 years old. he has the right to get tired, he has the right to do what he is told for 10 minutes, then go crazy and shake off the tension he received, then continue to follow the training program, that is, your task.
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to set rules here that would have been comfortable for us in our childhood, many years have passed, they are completely different, we separate twins, by the age of seven it’s time, we separate them as directly as possible, we don’t try to mix them into one pile, on the contrary, we help them to do the detuning, why, because they will mix themselves, my daughter sometimes tells me,
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i want my own room, i say, i’m sorry, but of course we will consider... the question, but after many years, it’s just when i say, it’s about cleaning , i say, we need to remove it, but this is also related to the question about the shared toy, that this was blurry, because we don’t know how to react, how to share, he says, i want my own room, again, i don’t know what she needs to answer, yes, definitely, someday you will grow up, you will have your own room, when you set goals for yourself, you will be able to earn money, we will probably try to help if we have such an opportunity, but... today we have the opportunity to live in our beautiful apartment, our good, such a cozy, comfortable family , you have a value that many are deprived of, you have a brother, and a brother who is your twin with you on the same wavelength, a very, very close person to you, enjoy this advantage, offer them a search for solutions, children always find some... something very unusual in children's
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garden as during our conversation, that is, i came about stas. talk, well, about his situation, but since adela is always in the background, accordingly, it doesn’t matter, mostly , of course, they spend time together in the same group, she also expressed a version, she says, maybe they’re just tired of each other for now, here they are always together, definitely, very little time is spent separately, because anyway, i’m taking away the tradition of introducing the garden, at least a little. mas - this is how it turns out, bring two to kindergarten, pick up from kindergarten two, and if during, well, let’s say, a doctor, that is, these everyday things, we can’t get away with household things, but at least during the course, and i also started talking to them about training, that i have to drag two of them, although trains alone, because
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i say, i can’t do it yet, i have this audience like parrots, here are a few, probably... i can’t, i can’t leave one for now, i can’t leave one, oh well, recently they began to understand that yes , i'll sit bored because you can't leave me like that use this time for effective time with the second one, who is not busy with anything, the best time is to read a book with him, tell him some story, i don’t know, just pat him on the head, do something else, don’t go off on your own this moment, maybe on the phone to solve some work issues, you... have 40 minutes alone with this child, you don’t even need to spend a day off for this, divide into two parts, now you have him alone, come up with , tell me, let’s figure out how you and i will spend these 40 minutes than you you want to do something, maybe he just wants to cuddle and sit in your arms, and this can happen, offer options all the time, use this time effectively, everything, well, yes,
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now it will probably happen - it’s just that when it was cold, it’s difficult to go where. you can also hug, you can too, this takes away from the second child, let’s make a distinction about this, so that he doesn’t see you at this moment, let him train, why should you sit in training, go somewhere else, don’t be close, just this is the time for the coach’s responsibility, let’s turn off our desire a little see everything, control everything, know everything and give children the confidence that if they are alone, if they achieve something at this moment with them, nothing will happen, this is very good, this is wonderful. you will meet him in a different mood with your second child, because you also spent this time effectively, without whining that your football was finally over there, with joy, yes, that we are glad that you are now... nastya, thank you for you came today, i hope that it was useful
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to you, it was useful, i believe that it was you who gave so much food for thought, so much food for experiments on the question of how to work, not with children, but with ourselves, because we very often focus on them, that here, here like this, here like this, here... then and then we begin to push a feeling of guilt on top of them, that you don’t appreciate it that way, we’re trying here, we’re doing it, to come back to us again, this is the moment, i kept thinking that i should try less, actually no, now here i am as we listen to our conversation, i understand that i’m focusing on the wrong thing at all, now you suggested several such ideas, simple, banal, and impossibilities regarding common toys. these nuances, which i think that over time, even, i just directly see and feel, and even this makes it easy for me, that first of all it’s easy to do, nothing, that is,
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it’s easy to agree, the children will understand it, accept it, because that they like such experiments, they feel like adults at this moment, and that this will minimize this when there is time left, roughly speaking, for pleasant things, and not for such bad things, when they they will fight more, well, i’m glad. that i was useful to you, if you have a question that you want to ask me, this can be done on the website of the first channel, i was with you, larisa surkova, podcast ask surkova, see you, if you want to get to me for a consultation, here in the studio, fill out the form on the first channel website, i will be happy to help you. you can be a sensible person and think about the beauty of your nails, as you remember, this is what alexander
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sergeevich pushkin wrote. in a special issue dedicated to the poet’s birthday, we discuss the aesthetics of pushkinskaya era. who are dandies, where did they learn about fashion in the 19th century, and how the fashion of the past influences the present. with me in the studio is a tv and radio presenter from modern dandy. art critic yulia, as well as designers yulia gaidakova and anastasia sergeeva. sash, i’ve known you for 100 years and i dream of asking you one question that i just can’t bring myself to ask you. what is your favorite work by alexander sergeivich pushkin. i won't tell you anything original. i will, of course, name evgeny anegin first of all. it would be strange if i didn't said. you need to know him, love him, and so on. i even have to admit one very scary thing. when we studied evgeniy anegin at school, we studied it almost in high school, and i, being a theater child,
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knew that many actors knew not only a fragment of this work in order to enter or continue their studies, or graduate from a theater university, or even act in a play, or sing, but they know simply because they organize readings, i even... i read avidly, it seemed to me that i understood everything, i placed the right accents, i i felt every line, after 10-20 years i realized that i didn’t understand anything, i was very worried because i couldn’t learn this seemingly small story. and then i realized that only a few can learn it, but reading it beautifully, especially since it is a gift, a work of genius is not given even to the most
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talented actors, well, the perception is different, the perception that you had in childhood and the one that now you probably recently reread evgeny onegin, i have no doubt what evgeny onegin is for you today, he is different every time, what emphasizes both the genius and versatility of this work. well, for me it is always different, because we are growing up, on the one hand we remain children and read it like in school, on the other hand we look at it as adults, as it seems to us, recently i was caught thinking, that for me this is just some magnificent secular newsletter, a story about the social life of high society people, about their experiences, this is a fashion magazine, after all, there is a whole dictionary of fashion terms of that time: beret, crimson... through fashion, further
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baa, fan, diadem, vest, caftan, but this is already ours, necklace, corset, sash, mackintozh, trousers, gloves, scarf, redingod, reticule, frock coat, body of the jacket, cane - an integral part of the whole time and tulub, all this is described , all of this can be cited with quotes, all of these are not just colors to describe a character, all of these are also attributes of the time, this is fashion, well, i’m sure that you... have this entire list in your wardrobe, except redengote, and i, but i don’t have a cane, but i have, you have, of course, not the one on which you need to lean, but the one that needs to be segalstvo, hold it in your hands, i thought about hitting - boys, newspapermen, not without this, or chasing the yumshchik, buddy, touch it, for some reason in childhood i was most fascinated by the queen of spades,
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because it is so mystical , there are such bright psychological characters, what is your favorite work by pushkin? probably still eugene onegin, because in fact, it is eugene onegin, he, firstly, gives this cross-section of noble culture completely with all the details, with everything the daily routine, with the nuances of outfits, with etiquette and a parallel line, and sometimes intertwined with this urban environment, intertwined with... what it was like for anegin, for tatyana, each hero looks at it in his own way, with his own somehow we see, in this regard, eugene onegin does not become obsolete, i understand correctly that your brand is based on russian literature, where the brand began 20 years ago, they met on...
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style and fashion? well, for me, first of all , this is the revival of the cultural power of russia, cultural, literary, balls, receptions, well this is the time when everything flourished, including literature, music, science, this is the time when russia, while maintaining its cultural identity and originality, entered the international arena fully, that is, everyone looked at russia, but how is it with us, and how... here , in this regard, we, of course, turned to the pushkin era, we wanted to do something that would be identical, original, with such a national twist, but at the same time in the style of today . but it’s still your design, although you are already far away, as i understand it, and this is your original profession, you are professional designers, everyone knows you, nevertheless, pushkin remains in your work,
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tell us how?
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the fashion of the pushkin era, it seems to me rather has some kind of cultural aspect, i’ll explain why, if we are talking about the years of alexander sergeevich’s life, everything is clear here, 1799, 1837, but firstly, fashion does not end in one day, as an art critic, what immediately comes to mind is probably some stylistic eras, and here we are talking, of course, about the late empire, empire, late neoclassicism. or just late classicism in russia, we are talking about romanticism, and we are talking about estarism, that is, here are three such things that, again, do not end in one day, but alternate, intertwine, one period passes into another, and for me
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this is probably such here is the palette of images, fashion at the beginning of the 19th century, this is still an era of such great changes, these elegant men's suits, which were generally accepted in the 18th century, are going away. and as i understand it, men at some point lose their tendency to wear makeup, because at 18 century, men were no less elegant than women, this is cosmetics, this is styling, velvet, lace, what happened, why suddenly at some point everything came to naught, did the war years take its toll or something else influenced why a man becomes more brutal, fashion in men's attire, it came from england. it did not always come from england directly, it came from england through france, and here, of course, the great french revolution, 1789, the rejection of luxury, the simplification of costume, this trend of dandyism appears,
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in fact a trend, but the french are very they perceive it well, it comes to us in some kind of processed form, partly an english tendency, anglomaniacs, we not only had francophiles, but... partly through the french, who are also a little reluctant to give up all this luxury, well , at least from customs, from powdering the face, from a lot of dressing up, and bob bramle, george brian bramle, and this is such an embodiment of dandyism, this is a man who, having actually entered the entourage of the prince regent, and he accordingly began to enjoy great popular at court, dictated fashion. his milestones in the development of some kind of male style of behavior and costume, but in the suit this was also manifested very clearly, this is hygiene, this is daily bathing, this is a smooth shaved face, that is, no stubble
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was allowed, this lack of a wig is a very good haircut , today we are discussing how the works of alexander sergeevich influenced fashion, fashion. has already reached some other level, that is , this is no longer fashion, this is no longer modus revendis, this is no longer philosophy, this is already some kind of mischief and this is already a high sense of humor, very high, thanks to which you treat your image ironically, with
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the image of those around you, with fashion, and with style and with the whole world, as if neglecting all this, this is the highest point, this is a certain manner behavior, of course, is equanimity. and with this equanimity it was necessary to amaze with surprise, the third moment when the effect was achieved in time to leave. it was important for him to make an effect, that’s how he always appeared in society, and what about the details? were their clothes so shocking or unusual at that time? i would say that he greatly simplified the costume, that is , firstly, he introduced the fashion for scarves, neckerchiefs, and he tied scarves in a completely special way. and he could spend 2-3 hours tying such a scarf, when hours yes, because the scarf was tied in this way, the collar of the shirt was raised, i thought i was getting ready for a long time, braml was here ahead of everyone, the collar of the shirt was raised, then the scarf was tied, and if this did not
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work, then the scarf was discarded, because was already wrinkled, it was impossible to bring it back to normal, and this could go on for several hours, and at the same time come, having spent 3 hours on your outfit and come with the appearance that, in general , he is in style, looks like himself, at the same time to
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no one, and he is ultra-remarkable, although in fact there is nothing special about him to highlight and note, there is nothing to analyze by an expert, you think what is so special about him, this is this negligence, it is a brilliant negligence, if of course you take it seriously at all, this is there is probably dandyism, like this one here is looseness, but collected, this is... you know, like the latin saying, hurry up slowly, festenlenta, not fast, not slow, not, not high, not low, not action-packed, not old school stagnant, something something discreet, but very noticeable, it’s a balance, it’s a delicate taste, well, pushkin was not a very wealthy fashionista, he had a fairly limited number of suits, as far as i know, and what was the name of this famous robe? zhlafrok is a special house robe, another one like this
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detail, if we are talking about this aspect of art, this is orientalism in fashion, this is, of course, the influence of napoleonic campaigns in egypt, and this is, in principle, a great interest in the east since the time of this in men's and women's fashion, well, it’s so common yes influence that also comes from rokuko, chinoiserie, turkitri, and this whole line with... clothes very often framed ladies with his
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appearance, and there were stories, i don’t know how true they are or not, or if this is some kind of historical anecdote, very often in the memoirs of contemporaries, i even imagine there preserved, very often his very long nails are mentioned, about which everyone says that they looked like claws, or here’s another story, which is also often told by historians that pushkin had some period when he... he had some kind of illness, he cut his hair short and wore a wig, so he was sitting in the theater, where it was stuffy, he took the wig off his head and started fanning himself with it, this really shocked everyone, he was really so outrageous in terms of appearance. look, yes, this outrageous image, it fits in very well in this atmosphere of dandyism, russian dandyism or dandyism on russian soil, and of course, besides him there was a whole series, in general there were characters who also...
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with public opinion, if we are talking about some kind of social event , and about conversations, this is the ability to slightly trigger the opinion of society without violating any moral principles, that is , there is nothing offensive in this, and the apatage is not vulgar, but still forces one to keep attention on oneself, and then they look up to him, the same way like george bramel or like david lyon and other other dandy, there too. oscar wilde also falls into the same category, again, these
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rumors are that dandyism is a lot, a lot of rubbish, everything is lush, and others say that this is minimalism, and if you mix everything, shake it up, or not shake it up, then you get some kind of a strange mixture that not everyone understands, not everyone can use it, here’s who is close to you, and did you cosplay any of these guys when there were some masquerades, school or some... i was happy to participate in the production in some costume fun and yes, i really loved depict, well, i always had either a hussar costume exactly like it. somewhere i could get this in theater dressing rooms, i could get a camisole, a frag, and a top hat, small in size, but still suitable for a boy to make a noise at some school party, and as an adult
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you can allow yourself to dress up like this like a real dandy from the pushkin era, you will laugh, i have a frag, only not a real one, but one that looks like a tailcoat that has survived since then, in which i perform as my group. what else do you have besides a tailcoat? and quite by accident, tatyana, i discovered that i suddenly took with me a portrait, which i will be happy to show, oh well, this is a portrait, this is a portrait of that same david lyon, but in my performance there is such a photo, wait, is this david lyon? this is not david lyon, this is your humble servant in the image of david lyon, this is a photo reconstruction, the portrait of david lyon is exactly like this, only in this place it is really real, the same famous dandy, in my opinion it was possible, tatyana, if you suddenly keep it at your place, i
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will gladly give it away, because i have a lot of them, and i always carry them with me completely by chance, like a real dandy, that is, you are giving me such a generous gift, it is the only one. one way or another, dandyism penetrated our entire russian society, and of course, one of the most prominent representatives of this mischief and epotage, i am sure, was alexander sergeevich, and he did the right thing, because with his
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greatest education, and an excellent education, with his excellent upbringing, and there was arina radionovna, and the lyceum, and the environment, there was... such a powerful cocktail of all kinds of cultures that he could afford anything, internal limits, internal boundaries, internal culture based on his origin and roots of upbringing , it allowed him not to go beyond this framework, in my opinion, as far as i know the biography of our entire alexander sergeevich, in the lists of great dandies, of course, there are historical characters and fictional, collective ones, probably
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