by the way, i usually have it hanging on the back of my t-shirts, who else is modern, yes modern, i can safely call him a modern dandy, as everyone calls him jack sparrow, in fact, his name is different, mr. johnny dep, johnny dep, yes, ah easily, if he really wanted to, and he is like that in his secular manifestations, brad pitt could easily be like that, he’s just more careless, more californian, more like this, more like a simple guy, johnny dap, no. johnny deb, rock star, rock stars in general - this is the dandy of our time, well, not all of them, of course, dandy can be called leni kravitz, dandy can be called mick jaeger, by the way, he is sir mick jaeger, and he fits perfectly into this whole agenda, listen, well, for example, oleg menshikov, quite, yes, oleg menchikov could easily lead list of our modern fatherlands'. dandy, because he is a noted

fashionista, and understands and pursues fashion, sometimes waves his hand at it, sometimes overtakes it, his look is sometimes daring and outrageous, sometimes careless, but all this falls into dandy’s agenda. these are not lokomshits, we are discussing aesthetics of the pushkin era. now, if we talk about your clothing style, do you consider yourself a real dandy? well, because i heard. a show-off, and the fact that i'm a dandy, and the fact that they say all sorts of things about me, and the fact that i'm a fashionista, and the fact that i have chronic shopping mania, and the fact that i'm completely crazy about my outfits and have to constantly change them , i’m listening to all this from the sidelines and laughing, because none of this corresponds to reality, of course, in the fashionable sentence where we work, you stand out very, very much, that’s what you have with us.

such a style, i like to know how to look good if the situation, dress code, or type of activity requires it, and the shot, of course, needs to match the task, i try, if i can do it very well, if suddenly i give the impression of a modern dandy , very good, it means that professional training takes its toll, but in life i can quite easily walk around in old jeans, pulled-in... fishhords and comfortable sneakers, which is actually the highest degree of dandyism. with men, yes, everything is clear, this is what was in women's fashion, what are the trends time were bright, i don’t know, defiant, traditional, what was happening in women’s fashion? women's fashion, it changes much faster during the first half of the 19th century, and here we have this empire style, in fact white dresses with a high waist, with sleeves... ufami, and this waist too,

it will then drop gradually towards the twenties years, and these are almost weightless translucent fabrics in the empire era , there are a lot of cameos in fashion, and this stone carving, there are a lot of bracelets in fashion, and bracelets are sometimes so strange sentimental appearance, that is, even hair bracelets appear that are woven from hair.

all the information about what was happening in france with a delay of one or two weeks, that is, we were not very far behind here, fashionistas of course followed, did not miss it, it was all discussed, some adjustments were made, again related to russia, for example that in fact we must, of course, make allowances for our cold weather every time. the 19th century is a century of such direct femininity, very feminine, sometimes even such gentle images, how do you like such femininity and...

do you notice it in our time, i read somewhere that dandyism can be female, i think that in modern times this is also present in cocochanel. all the experts said that she is still this or that dandy. firstly, she was indeed too bold in her innovative proposals. secondly, she was also desperately brave in her biography, well, in the end, she was simply as a person, so strong that they took an example from her, and many still do. in other words, here, if fashion experts allow me or fashion historians, coco chanel dandy. there is no way to avoid hooliganism here, when they stand with a ruler and check that everything is perfect, this is already a protocol, period, and dandy has no protocol, the fact of the matter is that this is an anti-protocol, it is also good, but it is completely different, this is this swing,

it seems to me like this, well, okay, i understand about the dandy girls, maybe sir , a girl in a fluffy dress in a corset might impress you. of course, with styling, of course, with these beautiful decorations on the miniature head, and so with these neckline, with these berets, with these, what is this high waist band called here, of course it can, because femininity itself speaks for the one who wears this outfit and promotes this style or represents this style, of course she.

it seems to me that it is relevant in a men’s suit practically without changing, and among women we constantly read these trends, then we have a fashion for bare shoulders, we also remember the famous painting, and goncharova, where we have and in a beautiful there in his outfit , then we have a fashion for collars of various shapes, and these collars are tied with a stand-up and drop, that is, we constantly borrow something, but not in the full form of a suit, here it is for men... you know, it’s just fixed, but for women, it is somehow more diverse, this is how these criteria of beauty have changed from the 19th century, which we discussed very well today, to the present day, what today distinguishes a beautiful person from a person, say, well, not

very interesting, i think that in the 19th century we would have been laughed at and even frightened us, because we somehow look a bit tame compared to them, they are civilization itself, itself... everything should be comfortable for us, everything should be imposing, calm, frank, and we are all kind of twitchy , i have to admit, but it’s the cliché of the age of speed and so on that has affected us, so everything should be simple, these girls with their heads held high, with a fan, with a beautiful neck, and we today with smartphones, who have bent over,

multi-layered fluffy skirts and god knows what there were also bumps on the head, yes, yes, what today for you it is a symbol of femininity in fashion, today femininity is about convenience, we can say that in each of our collections we turn to coquetcore, here are all our things, what is coquetcore, let’s explain, and coquetcore is a style that is particularly feminine , romanticism to some extent, which is inherent in ruffles, frills, lace, again, bows, such bed tops, very feminine, light, so flirtatious, i would say, flirty, yes, the style of a coquette, absolutely right, yes, this very bright too this is a trend of our time, something that

distinguishes us very much, despite the fact that we still borrowed many trends from the 19th century, but what distinguishes us today is that we know how to transform our morning wardrobe into... transform a daytime morning tea into a business dress code, and then supplement it in such a way that it becomes an evening one, this is something that did not exist in the 19th century. it is absolutely impossible to imagine a girl in the 19th century who leaves the house in a dress, which then transforms into some kind of ballroom social evening, this is what our current reality very clearly characterizes, and i think it’s very cool. how did your customers perceive the collection, which was inspired by pushkin’s fairy tales? very good, we have such key models that we produce, there are several seasons in a row, in the collection that was. dedicated to pushkin’s fairy tales, we reproduced and repeated one of our key models, the buldejour dress

, made it exactly in the author’s print, this it just sold out with a bang, we also had pajamas, yes, in my opinion, there were pajamas in this print, well, we had a printing house, that is, everything supported the main theme of the collection, but you are still great for continuing to carry out your philological mission , and by releasing a collection based on pushkin’s fairy tales, you force... us, consumers, to go and re-read some once-loved works and look at it in a new way, rethink it, it seems to me that there is something very right in this too mission. thank you very much, we had a reference to the tale of the goldfish, there was a fabric that we used in studio light that really shimmered just like scales. and of course, it’s very cool when clients themselves give feedback and say that this is really how they get paid. goldfish goldfish dress, so to some extent , we can say that we

fulfilled the cultural mission with this collection, we fulfilled the cultural mission, we made women feel like literally goldfish in your outfits, something that has remained unchanged since then it is believed that the desire to dress up, to dress in some kind of status things is still a basic human need, why are you demonstrating strength, are you scaring off other males? you release your claws, yes, i agree, absolutely, this is camouflage, this is - you change the plumage, but the main thing is not to forget for what purpose you are doing this, where you are doing it, because if you come to a football match in you are watching the biggest shea , this is wonderful, there is no need to be weird, that is, the difference is between dandyism and shocking high-society and simply eccentricity, it very much is. but it is very subtle, there is someone to look up to, including in order not to do what

some people do, there are a lot of outrageous characters that you can look at and understand, that’s how you can’t, this is also important, this is that other edge , for which you don’t need to stand, that is, this is a certain corridor of your consciousness in which you manifest yourself in order to show yourself to people to look at, that’s why there is a podcast that’s not bastard, where we talk about : what to do and what not to do, it was very interesting, thank you, thank you, thank you very much, there is more about fashion and aesthetics of different eras in other issues, you can watch it now on the website of the first one. hello, dear tv viewers, you are watching the podcast lab triggers on the first

channel with you its host tatyana krasnovskaya , psychologist and psychotherapist sergei nasebyan. and our guest today is alexandra. hello. tell me what's wrong with you. i'm buying. a good start. so, i buy everything, everything i can, everything i can’t, in any situation, bad, i go for... good, i go for a new bracelet, bored, i open some marketplace, sadly i buy cosmetics, a pimple has popped out, i buy 115 cream, i have a feeling that soon all the things will simply evict me from the house, that is, they need a separate house in order for us to exist together, it bothers you or is already bothering your loved ones, that's where the problem begins, it's always bothered my loved ones, i've always been like that, that is, uh-huh.

the point is not that i simply don’t have these things, i have a basic wardrobe as such, it’s put together, i start to take philip kirkorov's concert clothes, which i will never wear, they will forever remain hanging there with a label, well, maybe

i'll try them on twice more, look at myself in the mirror , go buy something new, which... i 'll never wear either, yeah, that is, i ’m satisfying some of my needs for a purchase, that’s all, i’m not getting any better or worse, a new thing just appears, which then doesn’t bring me any pleasure, what are you doing? i 'm doing smm now, before that i was married, i'm not i worked by training, i’m a lawyer, yeah, when we were married, we also bought everything, yes, at what age is that anyway? it started, you say , from childhood, i was always like this, yes , well, that is, it was during the period of toys during the period there when i lived with my parents when i lived alone when i then lived there with my husband it was always there and my husband is already like he used to be then he said as much as possible already, but was there ever such a short period, maybe when you didn’t

buy no, never at all, never a day like that, it’s good, you’re going somewhere?

yes, yeah, let's see what you bought last, today, yesterday, a bag, yesterday, today, yesterday, yesterday, yes, we were sitting at home, bought a bag or went to the store, bought a bag, and i saw it, where on the internet, yeah, so, i saw it, i realized that i need this, i waited for it for 2 weeks, that is, it’s not just like that, i went, bought it, it was not available, i waited for it, went, bought it, yesterday you... bought it, today i’m with it , today you came with her, okay, but tell me, at that moment when you saw her, what thoughts, feelings, emotions arose, i liked her, i i thought that i needed it, that it would fit, that it was roomy, that i could carry a laptop in it, since all my other bags are very small, why haven’t we bought a single large bag before, and i don’t know why , before that i

went with little ones, then i needed a big one, of course, that is, there was such a rationalization that everything would fit in this bag, but... no, of course, it’s clear that it doesn’t, so tell me, this is you, this is rationalization , and what emotion arose when you saw her? well i liked her she was beautiful, it seemed to me that she was comfortable, i understand that you liked her, i like you too, but this does not mean that you and i will go home to me from here, no, you understand, but i like you, but i’ll somehow survive this, and maybe you won’t, well, i’m not for sale yet, but let’s... let’s see, here you are, you liked the bag, but besides the fact that you liked it, there ’s another an emotion that, you know, it looks like maybe some kind of hole that needs to be closed, this bag definitely will close this hole, it seems as if, i actually thought that it was because, well, i have a desire, it’s

wrong to say, like everyone else, to be the best , probably, that’s when i, that is, buy ... everything, everything i can, i feel as if i’m better than i really am , perhaps, maybe this is possible, well, that is, it turns out that without this bag i’m somehow not the same, not best of all, well , as if everyone has it and i need it too, well wait, obviously not everyone has this bag, not everyone, either some friend has it, who you saw there, i don’t know, some actress you saw it with, or in an advertisement some girl you saw it with, well, yes and... but the absence of this bag makes you what kind of you, i don’t know, makes me without a bag, here you are without a bag, what, sasha, unfashionable, probably, uh-huh, that is, you seem to be lagging behind, yes, uh- huh, probably good, in this backwardness, what a feeling , what kind of emotions, sadness, unhappiness

is possible, that is, it seems to me that if i buy something, maybe it will make me happy, of course, but now i am more i’m interested in this feeling of unhappiness, yeah, what it consists of, i don’t know, it’s hard for me to say. i was such a favorite, i aroused admiration from everyone, but it seems to me that i may be missing this now, i wish they didn’t arouse admiration, but the clothes and the way

they dressed you up, maybe, and certainly they did, playing with you into this doll, they seem to have created in you this feeling that if you are the most beautifully dressed, dressed up, dressed up, i don’t know, and so on, yes, then you are at that moment in the center of this attention, and more look how you... describe the photo well, all the children are like children, and i’m there in little darlings and bows, yeah, tell me about your parental family, how you grew up, still a little more detail, your parental family, i grew up, i i don’t remember my dad well, because my dad passed away, i was in the fifth grade, at that time my parents were already divorced, well, that is, we talked , my mother was such a very calm person, she never vaccinated me there, well, i just including i have encountered different situations in life, how my friends behave in attitude towards ex-husbands and even communication with children, i didn’t have this, i was raised by my mother, father, grandmother, grandfather,

i studied at a music school, and went to dances, knitting in the art house, well, that is, i had such a normal , cool, rich children’s life, tell us about your parents’ marriage, oh, it’s hard to say, my dad is a doctor. anesthesiologist, yeah, my mother is a financier by education, in my opinion, well, something to do with the financial and accounting field, when she was young, she worked part-time in a clinic, yeah, she washed floors, there i met my dad, uh-huh, so they got married, you were born, 10 years later, 10 years they lived without children, without children, yes, uh-huh, then you were born, how long did they live together after that, oh, i don’t remember, to be honest they were small. less often on weekends, because

my school and academic life was busy, that is, even, probably, my mother tried to implement some things that she may not have had, because as a child i never had anything they refused when i asked, that is, from me i studied at school with... after which i attended a music school, dancing, some kind of gymnastics, i already don’t remember half of where i went, i just came and said, mommy, i want, my mother told me, please, there to dad, i came, i say, daddy, i want, he says, go, and dad, when they divorced, he created his own family, no, he didn’t. that is, you remained the only child for your dad, yes, but at the same time, when you came to your dad for the weekend, how did he show love for you,

how did you feel, why, according to what criteria did you evaluate this? i remember dad very poorly, because i was very little, i remember the moment when he passed away, and i even remember how they told me about it, and how painful and incomprehensible it was for me, but i remember dad in segments, like he made me feel there... not really, my mother wasn’t happy with this kind of life, and my mother wanted security more for me and for herself, well, considering i’m from

a gangster city, yeah. east, it is so specific, my mother wanted a quiet life, you are watching the triggers podcast, with you are its presenters tatyana krasnovskaya and sergey nasebyan, we are talking with sasha, who is visiting us today, and we are talking about the problems of chapagalism, where is mom now, there in vladivostok, yeah, how is your relationship with your mom, excellent, great, well, that’s how it is, after all, the difference is an hour there at 5 o’clock, we communicate with my mother via instant messengers. we communicate via video conference, on the phone, text, yeah, did you have a close relationship with your mother? close in what way? such a warm relationship, where you trust each other, where teenagers are not very good, now yes, in childhood, in childhood i don’t really remember my mother very well, because my mother worked a lot, i remember how my mother took me to school and how

my mother picked me up from school. well, that is , we didn’t spend any time together as such, we started spending this time, probably, i was already in grade six, seven, eight, when we started having common hobbies there, watching tv series, well, some of those we oh, let's watch something there, well, let's watch a series like this in the evening, oh , let's go for a walk, let's run, well, let's go for a walk, let's run, let's chat, well, let's chat, oh mom, what's your favorite book, this, let’s read it together, but that was all later. then it was already strong, yes, but your mother - in your very childhood, had some kind of interesting, rich life of her own, what did your mother live like? my mother lived by work, that is, although everyone always teased me that i was a beloved child, much loved, my grandparents took care of me, i have a wonderful family, i have sisters and cousins ​​there, we all had a great time, had a great time, but i also don’t remember my dad well, and i don’t remember my mom too well.

so that's the point, that's what you say about your life, that in essence you are talking about how all these negative experiences were leveled out by the very purchases, gifts and pampering that they showed to you, probably, and moreover, well, what if you try to change a little bit, and to add tragedy and drama to your story, then mom and dad divorced, as if yes, they could communicate normally.

maybe before that you will see that the level of anxiety was so high that you urgently need something to cover this anxiety, and because in the circumstances that you describe, there is vladivostok, and the nineties, a gangster city and there are all these difficulties and ups and downs, they certainly caused a high degree of anxiety for you as an individual, you need something...

the cat is somewhere, to the theater, to the cinema, if we say, my husband, a man of unknown status today, told me that well, let’s lie there in the evening, i say, what are you talking about, we should have a tradition, well, i’ve always wanted this traditional, some family jokes, something like that, i i don’t know, sign some kind of gift, it’s fun to write some kind of text message, he ’s going on a business trip there, i don’t care...

what difference does it make even if you kick him out, but no, i’m not kicking him out, i left him, well , because i can’t live with such a low-emotional person, he’s ready to cover some basic needs for me,

but conditionally, well, he tells me, why are you complaining, you have everything, you have a house, everything is there you have, what else do you need, but i need it to be cool, fun, interesting, emotional, that is. i want something such that i want to buy something that cannot be bought, uh-huh, probably like this, uh-huh, something that is not for sale in the first place, uh-huh, this is happiness, flight, yes, that is, not that well, yes , there is a husband, yes, good, yes, he’s doing something there, he goes to work, he’s great, that’s when he goes to work, or left, no matter how you felt, so good, to be honest, especially the last five months. i was so happy, sometimes i didn’t even want him to come, but that’s how, well, you were left alone, what did you feel at that moment, you we went there to meet friends, girlfriends, not always, i spent a lot of time at home, we lived outside the city, i liked

to walk, i liked to hear birds singing, i planted some hydrangeas there, he always said, i had two beds there, unfortunate 3 square meters, and i thought, damn, plant... there are onions, yes, we ’ll buy these onions, so i really wanted to create something, and i still want to, i sew i went there, i’m trying to take photographs there now, i want to see exactly the result of my efforts, your business, now you are doing it, now i am doing it, yes, and you know, i feel so happy now, despite the fact that i continue to buy, look, it’s strange, it feels like it’s still happiness does not close your insides. more of some kind of internal hole that closes precisely when consumed, yes, but now i did an experiment for myself, i left, went to a friend, left with two suitcases, in one a tablet, in the second, that means things, so i now

i’m also reassured by what i’m buying necessary, because everything else, it ’s kind of there, i don’t want to go back to it yet, i don’t plan, for now, well , not for today, i just understand that i’m... more comfortable, well, i feel much better alone , than nothing seems to be pressing me, that’s what’s been pressing me lately, it seemed to me that he was like, well, not that he didn’t seem to hear me, so he often asked the question, what are you missing, but it seemed to me everything was enough, i didn’t have enough time, attention, i missed jokes, i missed walking together, i missed being there watching a movie together. together, i didn’t have enough time together, and what am i missing, well, strawberries, let’s buy you some in the evening, if you want strawberries, eat strawberries, but this is crap for me, uh-huh, and you’re sitting at home, he says, let me give you strawberries i’ll buy it, at

this moment you, of course, want him to be just there nearby, but he’s not nearby, it just so happened, then what did you feel, there was nothing nearby, in the sense of such emptiness, emptiness, yes, and this is one of.. . if we have had a difficult relationship there for a year already, if before this i understood that we still have to do this, let’s try like this, let’s do it here, but lately i’ve just felt emptiness, i understand that in principle i don’t need anything at all, let’s see, how did you contact me for the first time? with this question, did you go to specialists or did you already go to them? well, i contacted a year ago that i, too, was covering up my emotions, the need there by shopping, but after talking with a psychologist... i went, called my friend and said: listen, let’s go, there’s a new collection, i need to go , let's go, just let's take a walk, yeah, well, you can do this today after talking with us, but now there is still a feeling that you seem to

be more ready to deal with this? yes, i’m tired, really, i want to, so i understand that even well , it was also very significant for me, i was in thailand, it was many years ago, i was vacationing on one of... the islands and there were three the islands in one of them have an airport, the other two, you can get to by poromchiki, and kotau, i was on kotau and had a rest there. maybe three years in a row, that means i have these two, and can you imagine, it’s forty-degree heat, with these two suitcases, nothing can close for me anymore, i bought myself some scarlet faith in some store, some gifts there , and i bought gifts for everyone who didn’t need it, they didn’t ask me especially, which means that since i stayed there for 3 years in the same hotel, they already knew me there, there was such a beautiful thai woman there, and i i took her out some things from my

suitcase because it just wouldn’t close, that is, there are two suitcases that had to be stepped on in order to close it, and i have my next flight from the island to another country, i understand that i need to buy something in singapore, i understand that i’m just going there i won’t report things, i started giving them to her, and i understand what she feels from this, when probably... this didn’t happen, she feels such, not just some kind of gratitude, but i understand that the person really , and i laid out her things, i understand that she only chose what she will wear it, but damn it, i’ve been saving for years, saving for years, saving, saving, saving, there’s no joy, for me, too, this was such a very revealing moment, okay, these are like those parts of you that you are aware of.

shopping, well, this is how it turned out, and you have more as an individual, if you give up not buying, what will begin to change in your life, in your opinion, how will your understanding change , there will be more money, there will be more money, i think that yes, no more, in large quantities, i can do it, here with professional activities there is also such a small nuance, i worked there before as an assistant, oh, before that i worked as an assistant in a large holding company, after which i became. executive director of a modeling agency, then something went,

went, went, i moved to moscow, and here, while i was, well, with my man in an uncertain status, i graduated, graduated from higher professional education, since there was a transfer from one places to another, i lost 2 years, i didn’t work for these 2 years, and it was extremely difficult for me without work, because before that my life with... consisted of wonderful travels, i had a great time, it was interesting to communicate, to meet new people, i really regret that during this time i lost my professional skills, for example, such as knowledge of the english language, before this allowed me to communicate with anyone, anywhere, at any time time, now i understand, recently going into some kind of restaurant and when i hear a conversation in english, i understand. almost half of what they say is there,

so i would very much like to return to the activities in which i wanted, but let’s say, now i understand that this is impossible, here we need to look for some other ways, but even, by the way, in fact, when i worked, i didn’t have such strong chapagalism, i bought something when i worked with brands, i didn’t buy anything at all, they gave me everything, well, look, because at this moment - this part, but well, you have

a problem, conditionally, you admitted it, thank god, i’m the last one, probably months, well, four months for sure, i say this frankly, yes, that is, you won’t hide this attitude, who will get to know you, introduce you, hello, alexandra, i’m a shopaholic, i’ve been there for 15 years, i buy all sorts of unnecessary nonsense, there’s no shame there, it’s as if they usually just don’t ask about it, it’s learned in the process. in fact, i’m in that, let alone that status, not yet, not yet, uh-huh, i’m actually still in those feelings that i don’t even want a relationship right now, i want to go on a date, i want to get attention, yes great

time, but building a family now, oh which i dreamed of very much, i also have to admit honestly, i’m not ready, i’m not ready, why? i was tired from the period of my previous relationship, well, you didn’t stay there that long, but there was so much going on there that i think it was, well, our relationship was complicated, we have a big age difference, and it was hard, sort of and it was hard to get used to each other, plus he has two marriages behind him, one official, one not very official, this is communication with children, which is very difficult to build and...

the fact that you demand gifts, that would be us that your problem is something else, yeah, that’s what you’re saying about shepagalism, then your task is just to be able to buy this or that thing there, to just have the opportunity, i remember a certain number of years ago i went to some store, there was an expensive bag shop there , i thought, what kind of bag, it must be worth something like... 30,000 rubles. i think what a beautiful bag, 30,000 rubles. it can’t be, then i think, i’ll take a closer look, maybe not 30,000 rubles. maybe 300, but i looked closer, it cost 3 million. yeah, so i put this bag and went from i’ll ask her so much, why am i saying this, to the fact that i clearly could not buy this bag under

any circumstances, well, except on credit, and this is an unpleasant feeling, when you have the opportunity to buy, it’s like you if i were you, i would still look at the same relationship with mom and dad there in childhood, where their attention was still lacking, it is obvious that the problem of this spazhalism originates from there. you know, this work requires, in my opinion, or rather, this problem requires quite a long work, and group work

best of all, but i will now give you some, well, instructions, or something, yes, what needs to be done, i never suggest quitting smoking and drinking. i understand your reaction, but believe me, all of russia is watching us now, i just don’t need it, i know you don’t need anything at all, that’s the thing, you don’t need anything, you already understood that too, i’m giving it to you straight installation, your task is to buy something every day that costs less than 500 rubles. it could be anything, go down to the subway, there