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therefore, i also know certain people who actually went there on condulaino to look at condulaino to have the opportunity to look after her, invite her there to a restaurant somewhere in naples, where we went there, i don’t remember the route now, i’m just here i remember exactly that we were the first soviet tourists on the island of rhodes, now it’s like such a tourist point has been developed, but... then, when the soviet union still existed, we didn’t see soviets there, there were separate stories, i won’t to dive into this so as not to deviate from the actual story about the competition itself, but it was a competition, it was not a swimsuit competition, that is, in fact, there were very talented and interesting journalists there, very promising, and some had even already managed to do something in the industry, here... this
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trip itself, this cruise itself, it became iconic for so many, in particular, ivan ivanovich dimidov, who was the director of the film miss ussr, and i was the author of this film, we shot it all for first channel, it’s for one of the clips, in my opinion, it was a video of chris kelmi, and he noticed there on this cruise, dancers who were in some kind of social group, and invited them to star in this video, i did this...
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from the ninety-first year, when he was only there nothing, he was just a boy, and he danced in this video and noticed matvienko, wrote out moscow, in fact, this is how the ivanushsky international project began, a grandiose one, that is, this cruise gave the green light not only to many journalists, but also to many musical groups, although it happened to me, by the way, with musicians on the laying, i i remember that there was a huge scandal. aziza was there then, she was very, very popular in those years, there was a stopover in istanbul, through istanbul we went to the mediterranean sea and returned, naturally, also through dardanelo and basford, also with a stop in istanbul. i don’t remember whether it was the first or second stop, but i definitely remember the mega-scandal associated with aziza, and this has nothing to do with music, which means the fact is that naturally, in istanbul everyone then ran to the markets, that is, to buy. leather jackets,
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jeans, it was still the soviet union, then yes, it was still a time of shortage, but these shuttles were already transporting with all their might, and of course, a trip abroad, especially to turkey, was always associated with the purchase of some kind of junk, well, in addition to junk and everything else, where is the wife with the child, she is not my wife, you know, she got involved in all this because of a girlfriend with a child, yes, everything is complicated there, the child seems to be mine. please stop crying, honey, if you don’t help me now, then i can’t handle it alone, we are not allowed to approach the russian embassy, ​​especially install i'm spying on him, i don't understand what you mean, i'm on vacation, one chance for three, premiere, tomorrow, after the program, time, get off, window sill, don't touch me, and don't touch mom, and don't give orders anymore, we don't need your help ,
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look, ivanno was very unnerved that people there recognized, came up, something, not only took autographs, they asked something about moscow, there about gorbachev, about telik. that’s when he came up with it, he says: you need to come up with such a trick, that here’s a trick with glasses, like, you put on glasses, you’re ivan davidov, that’s it, you came out on stage, you took off everything glasses, you’re just blond, a former airborne sergeant, in general some kind of, so to speak, incomprehensible person, this is a cool idea of ​​his, that this detail with glasses immediately turns you into a trade mark, into a star, she was born right here in odessa , bought in the city of istanbul. these same glasses, ivan demidov’s glasses, the ones in which he recorded his famous jink, in which he hosted the muse program and chose these glasses, evgeny margulis, musician, it just happened before my eyes, how they bargained, i even remember the amount how much did you buy these glasses for?
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brand, i won’t name either one, but yes, this project was developed specifically during this cruise, that is... the people who shot this film, they then worked on the musical obos project and not only ivanushki international there as -were born, but then a mega-project of the youth editorial office was born and the careers of many journalists took shape, but to close the topic of show business, i will return to aziza. each liner pays for parking at the port, and any, as it were... delay, that is, a violation of the schedule, it is fraught with large fines, that is, if a ship has to move far away from the pier , it must do so, well , just like an airplane, of course, and we all then, i just remember how everyone stood and waited for the oziza , because she delayed
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the sending somewhere, well, for half an hour for sure, for half an hour for sure, here i am, i’m just standing before my eyes, there were no gadgets then, no phones, no one... took it off, it’s just it’s recorded here somewhere how she walks with a huge, you know , those black bags that are in the movies hollywood, or not only in hollywood, for corpses, these black plastic bags, she with this huge bag, which was actually dragging, semi-dragging, here is something purchased in istanbul there, not only maybe for the stage, there’s something else, by the way, this cruise, it is also connected, of course, with the fact that many of the artists that you...
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he had status, i remember his last name, malakhov, he later made a big splash when it was the case with the talkov murder, in short , there were a lot of interesting people, i still have photographs, let's say from this cruise, where daria aslanova, who then made a splash by writing her memoirs, she made a splash then, and then she became a very... serious war correspondent, one of our leading newspapers, and is still working, i remember when in tiri meisan came to moscow, i introduced him to heydar jamal, such a philosopher, very famous, with channel one columnist
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mikhail leontyev, with daria aslamova, i even still have recordings of this conversation and photographs of this meeting, so she was daria not so long ago she was even detained, she was suspected of espionage, such a very, very desperate reporter, there was a very loud story when she and her comrades, in my opinion, the photographer was captured by militants and were going to shoot her colleague, well, that is, in that sense that this was not some girl in a swimsuit, this was a real reporter who would give a 100- point head start to any other person who ... is engaged in investigative journalism, in fact, she had already gone there in the status of a very famous scandalous journalist, well, i i think that these are all the awards that she has, she has a very impressive list of awards, she honestly deserved it with her work, and anya
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danilenko won this competition, who introduced such a zebra program on leningrad television, she was quite successful in those years successful, i have a photo where anya is with me. and my colleague leonid nikitinsky, who was also a member of the jury. anya, as the winner of this first miss competition, she was later on the jury of subsequent ones. april ninety-two, but how do we we know that the soviet union collapsed in december and many of the ideas that were outlined then fell apart, in addition, lyosha romanov, who was the organizer of this cruise, was a sports journalist.
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not only courses collapsed there, but destinies collapsed, in particular, alexey romanov found himself in a very difficult situation, he owed money, and he was supposed to be killed, and i remember that he called me, said that he was going to the switch, that he may not return, in case he does not return, there he asked to do a number of things, but the arrow, thank god, it ended well, he just explained that if they kill him now, then there won’t be any money. and so he will hold - the next event and give away the money, so, by the way, it happened, that is, - this
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miss press cruise came out year after year, it took place in ninety-two in ninety- three, then i stopped following this matter, because well, i had various newspaper projects there, besides, my friends from those who are usually called respectable said that it was like being a judge here’s a competition where girls wear swimsuits, this... doesn’t seem to correspond to my reputation, as a serious journalist who deals with investigative journalism, and then i completely went for an internship overseas and somehow, in general, i had no time for these competitions , and i didn’t follow what was happening, but one of the famous musicians, pyotr podgorodetsky, who was also on this cruise, later described in his memoirs that he met those girls like... who were contestants in various places , including one of them who had a career in
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the same america. i never thought about, to be honest, the commercial component of all these cruises, because for me it was an opportunity for a free vacation, to go there with my wife, there with friends, i dragged a bunch of my then employees there, someone as a a photographer, someone as a journalist who wrote about this, but there before my eyes, i say that many careers took place, not only musical, journalistic, but also, for example, television, dmitry krylov, you know him as a presenter unlucky notes, so, these unlucky notes he also came up with on one of these cruises, i have a photograph where we are in front of naples, why do i know that we are in front of naples... because not only do i have a camera, but dmitry has he has a camera, but after naples he didn’t have this camera,
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because just when he was filming his first these notes, this project, this program was not yet on the first channel, but he was already working in this direction, he really i liked it, a motorcyclist on the street of naples just snatched it from him, he grabbed the camera by the lens and pulled and tore it off, that is, he didn’t have cameras... from time on it seemed to us that we were approaching some new life, the world is friendship, little frog, that
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europe is now open to us, that nothing is needed from us, we don’t need anything, that we will all live together, that is, this was a time of such misconceptions, some kind of naivety, well, well, for the girls who participated in these projects, it was a time of such career starts. i immediately want to say ahead of the curve, because many people think that, well, since this competition, since this means girls, then there were some - perhaps there were uh, intimate moments, here... i must say that firstly, they went there very often, journalists already with a name, well, like the same aslamova, and many were traveling, relatively speaking, exposed to the most reputable, most significant publications, television channels and newspapers with millions of copies, that is, they felt behind them, in general, not
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some daddy who paid for them to participate in this competition, but they felt ... themselves as journalists who are trying to prove that they know how to work, so yes, naturally, there, like in any competition, there was this entry in swimsuits, but it was very insignificant, they realized themselves there precisely in a professional sense, to none of them, in my memory in for 841 years, no one even thought of approaching with any proposals, although this is the end...
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listening, it turns out that we are going to the kremlin together. america now leaves western europe at the mercy of the confrontation with russia. apparently, at the forefront of this adventure will be france and poland. poland is a country that will do anything for money. i hope that ukraine will remember that level of assistance. this was a gigantic help that has not yet been compensated. well, you still have to pay for it. and yes, and we will remember every penny for you. what is the true price of polish-ukrainian friendship? show vavan and lexus. on wednesday on the first. you can watch all episodes of the podcast chronicle of the indian times on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. journalists, due to the fact that they represented certain publications, they themselves
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felt much more confident, it seems to me, than even the representatives of these largest ones. these acting dynasties, i don’t remember , but in my memory there has never been a single complaint from the girls that guests were approaching them, although let’s say there are a lot of them from show business, i won’t name names now if it’s for them it’s interesting, they will tell you themselves, but many girls at that time were famous or became famous later, they had very serious troubles, right? one singer said that she came to her cabin, she had the key to this cabin, only she, it would seem, was waiting for her on the cook, which means that here was a respected person, authoritative, and there were also showdowns there, i had to participate in a showdown, there it was only possible to contact the captain from the captain’s cabin, to get
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in touch with the mainland, that is, there...
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now the producer told me that after he finished his sports career, and before he started his production career, he worked as a journalist, so he told me with this feeling, what a humiliation it was, how he understood how it was it’s unpleasant to run after a person with a microphone, ask him to say something, i understand that at any moment you can be sent, this despite the fact that he was with a person with a name, so to speak, that is, he... worked - a sports journalist in the industry where he was known and accustomed, and therefore he drank a little from this cup and, according to him, now it’s completely different. ae refers to the profession, that is, he always meets halfway, here i am, like a man from the workshop who always worried about the girls, uh, i helped them,
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let's say they had assignments, to conduct an interview or record some kind of synchronization, uh, to do some kind of story, so i agreed with not only my acquaintances, but let's say there were some celebrities, relatively speaking, with whom i personally was not familiar, but which interested the contestants from this competitive point of view, so i always considered it possible for myself, despite the fact that i was a member of the jury, but i did not go beyond the scope of my judicial activity, i agreed that they would give interview to they found time, well, because people who were going on a cruise, but the artists, let’s say they... had a contract, let’s say, one concert in koyuto company, the rest of the time they wanted, since fees were not provided,
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they were paid with a vacation , well, they wanted to relax, that is, they wanted to sunbathe, drink, go on excursions, and not waste time talking, even with beautiful girls, but the artist is ready to spend time talking with... that for them this time will be spent and instead day they could spend there for
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in the ruins of some acropolis, they spent that day in the company of a journalist cameraman, let’s say, relatively speaking, that’s why i always tried to help the girls in this sense, i must say that... i didn’t select the contestants, i was just, well i will repeat to the jury, but i must note that only professional people got there, that is , they were not selected for the length of their legs or eyelashes, but very often there were people who could have succeeded in the profession, but made a different choice there, for example, a daughter roberta rozhdestvenskaya, not the one you thought about, for sure, because she has a younger sister, rozhdestvenskaya, she won one of the competitions, i remember that it was such a headache for us, because
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here we were sitting in kayota, well members of the jury said that if we make the christmas winner a bowl of espresso, then everyone will think that she got it, and then they will think that she won the competition, which means robert rozhdestvensky’s daughter. they will think that it is exclusively because of the surname, on the other hand, take this ignore her absolutely professional merits, she showed herself to be a brilliant reporter, and it seems to me that she never went into the profession, and now, just when i’m telling you this, i actually realized for myself that i still don’t remember, we sentenced her.
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bribed, relatively speaking, that is, i looked at this industry, this one in general, well , competitive, a little from that side, that is, i have insight, thank god, i will repeat that this would be a journalistic competition, which we don’t there were girls for which, as for most events of this kind, may not have been at that stage, perhaps later paid for by the so-called daddies, that is, wealthy patrons who, firstly, bought a place to participate in the competition, then were ready to work like this was called with the jury members to explain to them that their chosen one, she is worthy of the title of miss or vice-miss, that is, i honestly tell you absolutely that i did not catch this aspect, perhaps, i repeat, precisely because it was first of all a professional competition, because it
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was invented. a professional reporter, because alexey romanov, although he turned into such a travel tycoon, at that stage, i don’t know, by the way, what happened to him later in the 2000s, he was a sports journalist, very quickly these competitions were where they lived, that is, the borders opened, people began to travel abroad, not only on airliners, but for me the miss ussr competition, it became. these are the memories and symptoms of the end of times, because the country, i really like to quote and i can’t resist once again the nautilus pompilius, which is from the song striptis that the country was dying like an ancient lizard with a new virus in its cells, one of these viruses, of course, was this competitive industry, i remember without any nostalgia. and
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this is just such a stage in my journalistic career, which for me now is of interest not at all like some kind of recollection, but of interest specifically for analytics, like why the country has become different. this was a podcast chronicling the end of times, and i, evgeny dodolev, told you about the first and last and therefore the only miss press ussr competition. dear friends, the creative industry podcast is on the air, there are still living, real copies of the presenters with you, this is still elena kiper, producer and video director, but i won’t touch it yet,
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i need to make sure, come on! roman garmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, is our guest, dimitrov, our guest today, managing director for data research of a major bank, i’m very glad to be here, hello, thank you for coming, we are here for a reason, you see started because artificial intelligence is really a topic that everyone hears, but very few understand what it is, so everyone is already afraid, apprehensive. in general, something, but what did they know, what is it, we know what it is, we know a little, we use it, what artificial intelligence is, let’s first at least figure out what kind of thing this is, in fact, artificial intelligence , there is absolutely no need to be afraid of it, since we started with this, it is a tool that helps us do different things, that is, it automates some part of our intellectual work, mainly the routine part, artificial
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intelligence... this actually usually means some kind of neural network, what is a neural network? a neural network is something, you know, you can imagine it as a black box that takes something as an input and gives something as an output, that’s exactly how we imagine it, like a black box, what’s inside the black box is some kind of mathematical function, the function that now, for example, lies behind, for example, generating a picture from text, has, well, there are billions of parameters, so they are so complex that a simple person should pass it?
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well, relatively speaking, you take all the volumes of lev tolstoy, load them into this black box, and it can give you, well, relatively speaking, another volume, as if by leo tolstoy, for example, well, in a sense, yes, that is... this one here is a function, it learns in this way, that is, the parameters are configured in this way, these billions, based on, as it were, so that it is configured, this means, this means that - this is this, that is, the learning process occurs if we we are talking about language models, such as, for example, the well -known gpt chat, gigachat, for example, then this a function that takes a set of words as input tries to predict the next one, and thus, if we predict a word many times, we will get, for example, the next chapter of leo tolstoy, that’s what a specific language model does, after all, the neural network, it can not just compile, it can create some new interesting ones, that is, this is a new
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quality after all, that is, it’s like saying, as if the neural network did not see some object during training, then of course it is unlikely to create it , but with those objects and with those styles that she saw in neural network training and... here you can argue whether this is creativity or not, yes, these debates are going on, quite fierce, but the very fact that it can be done beautifully, especially lately, is an indisputable fact in my opinion, but in fact i can say this, that indeed the field of artificial intelligence is now being democratized. such a term, maybe it’s a little complicated, but i’ll try to explain what it means that artificial intelligence is now they can study since they were in school, say, from the ninth grade, sometimes someone from the seventh grade, in general they study at
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a good level, which was impossible to imagine there even 10 years ago, that is, the level of mathematics is really there, the level of interest of schoolchildren sometimes even the quality of training programs, which are actually... made on artificial intelligence, they allow you to get into this science, and this is really science, it is complex, this is mathematics, this is the junction of mathematics and the actual calculations of machine learning, come in already in the seventh grade, and we hold a huge number of competitions, hackathons there, and we see that children in general cope with complex tasks no worse than people who graduated from college, but what do they do, that’s what they do, well, actually the task, the task a person who deals with artificial intelligence, let's say neural networks, although in fact... there are a huge variety of algorithms and types of algorithms, these are not only neural networks, they are just very flexible and therefore they allow you to solve a huge number of problems, that’s how even creative ones, that is, the task of a person who wants to create
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an artificial intelligence model or artificial intelligence is how to select an algorithm that suits the task, although recently there are universal algorithms that solve a huge number of problems, and how to train it, which is the most the main thing is, do you know? i discovered something surprising for myself, that for a creative person, if he has some images in his head, he has ideas, fantasies, and so on, he needs to put these images on paper, well, that is, it was necessary to acquire certain skills, he had to go to study, become an artist, become a musician, and so on, now it turns out that with the help of artificial intelligence, you will refute this or confirm this, that is, you can transfer these images from your head, so say: into the neural network, yeah, it will create a picture for you, which you have, in general, it will transfer the picture from your head, in general, to the computer, this is true, as if possible, of course, of course, yes, and the non-neural network that draws pictures, for example she can
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accept text as input, that is, you can write something in text, but the text must be artistic, it must include all the images, you need to really understand in detail what you want in these pictures. makes the work of the neural network much easier, because it’s easier for her, uh, when you described in detail what you want, it’s easier for her to draw it, when you wrote i just want a fish in space, for example, i don’t know where this came from in my head, she needs to figure it out, but she should be in a spacesuit or not in a spacesuit, there should be a planet in the background or no, it turns out that surprise, surprise, yes, in a sense, there will be a fish in space, of course, it’s not clear what kind, you need to learn to control artificial intelligence, definitely yes. of course, there is actually a skill that is especially relevant lately, this is industrial engineering, that is, the creation of these very texts that are loaded into this black box, in particular, yes, although in fact, this is the most common, say task, although
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the neural network can create pictures using other types of data, for example, you can draw a sketch and ask to make it realistic, also a task for a neural network as a whole, such as kandinsky, for example, neurosit is named after the great russian artist, yes, who came up with what?
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their task is simply to generate everything in general, but we can set the task
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of showing the model a lot of our data of such a domestic cultural code, and this applies not only to the domestic cultural code, this applies to any types of data that we want to show to the model, and for this, of course, you need to make your own development, in memory of anastasia zavorotnyuk, we remember a wonderful person, an amazing woman, colleague, friend, anastasia.
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a person can live after death only in art, only art can defeat death on saturday. on the first, we continue the creative industry podcast, our guest today is denis dimitrov, the man who created the kandinsky neural network, elena kiper and roman karmanov are still with you, and what successes are recognized for kandinsky already, that’s what he does better, than analogues, let's say, analogues analogues is probably the wrong word, well, it looks like neural networks that solve the same problem. well, that is, it’s as if we
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recently introduced a model that generates video, we called it kandinsky video, although it probably should have been called something like torkovsky, well, we called it kandinsky video, we will continue this line, but what does it better, the domestic one knows better the cultural code, of course, is what we actually set before the model. what task, and we will certainly develop this further, what is the problem with russian data , knowledge of the russian domain is that data russians, of course there are fewer of them. what does the model learn from, it learns from data from the internet, that is, from open description image pairs, it seems to capture the data at the time of the request, naturally there is a team that deals with the data, and that is, the data is already contained in it, it does not search in this moment on the internet, no, no, no, in no case, it is precisely what she creates, in this, it is as if unique , where this voluminous amount
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of huge amount of data is stored, this is kandinsky the third who studied on one and a half billion pairs picture text is possible. what does this mean, remove everything, well, if you go to the internet, then in general half of the data there will probably not be of very good quality, all sorts of rubbish there, that’s it, the picture does not correspond to the description that is written down there, or maybe it could be that the picture contains a watermark, uh-huh, such data is probably also bad to use,
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because the neural network will reproduce this watermark, now they say that artists are already fighting, that is, they spoil their own image so that it doesn’t exist either. that's the same, that's also true, with these people also need to fight, that is, there are a huge number of filters that need to be written before giving the data to the model, because of course you can’t give everything in a row, it’s like, you know, showing a child everything in a row, it’s not clear what he will learn in the end , of course, the data development team is responsible for this, and this is super important for both the activity and the team itself, because not only half, but more, depends on it. half of the success, after the data is stored, here it is are in the atoms3 storage, you can actually train the model, yeah, training the model is just such an iterative viewing of this data and changing this huge number of parameters that i talked about, these billions
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of parameters that need to be adjusted so that when they fall on entry new description, the picture would correspond to it, we have a video that was created by kandinsky, but before watching it, the question is this: we are conservative people in general beings in our own right, and well, well, even if we now some person is watching you, he thinks, well, denis tells me interestingly, you have to try, then the internal struggle begins, to allow this artificial intelligence into your life, not to allow it, these are the areas in which we are already actively using artificial intelligence, who has already grabbed onto these are primarily designers, we have a special one. the tool is called fusionbrain.ai and there it is such a developing photo editor; now in general, lately it has been very popular to make photo editors based on or rethink current photo editors like photoshop, integrating ai there. why is this useful? because it is clear that
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creating pictures from text and editing pictures is much, much easier than actually drawing yourself; what people always did before, it took a huge amount of time, is now quite simple. write in text, a picture will be generated, you don’t like some area, you cover it up, add whatever you want, it really simplifies the work of designers, and very much so, that is, it is possible not only to generate an image, but also to edit with the same text, yeah, and what’s more, draw more than one picture, but there’s a whole whole collage of these pictures or a whole panel, that is, you created a gift for designers, do you need a designer now, some designers are afraid of this, that we’re kind of automated work, in fact , this is not the case at all, because artificial intelligence is a tool that allows you to simply optimize work, it is for any profession, design is no exception at all, there is a routine part of this work, it needs to be done as quickly as possible in my opinion, how you can automate better and...

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