creating pictures using text and editing pictures is much, much easier than actually drawing it yourself, something that people always did before took a huge amount of time, now it’s enough just to write in text, a picture will be generated, you don’t like some area, you covered up, finished drawing what you want, it really simplifies the work of designers, and very much so, that is, the opportunity not only to generate an image, but also to edit it with the same text, yeah, and what’s more, to draw more than one picture, and then the whole whole... some designers are afraid of this, that we are sort of automating their work, in fact this is not the case at all, because artificial intelligence is a tool that allows you to simply optimize work, it is in any profession, and design is no exception at all, there is a routine part of this work, it needs to be automated as quickly as possible, in my opinion, as well as possible. it will only save people’s time

there and improve the quality of the content, and animation, for example, how many routines are there, animation is generally the creation of video - in general, there are so many films being made there, well , they can shoot there for years, but now this can happen faster and faster, that is, since , well, until the creation of full-fledged films , the technologies have not matured to be honest, but the progress is such that now, if you have been saying for 3 years that we have been working on neural networks for 3 years, yes, i mean creating a neural network.

he draws the first frame based on the text, and then you choose, that is, how animation differs from video, in that animation is the camera flying around a static object, well or some kind of camera movement, and the video is a full-fledged movement of everything, here it’s still animation, because there is the first frame, and then we select the camera movement, well, that is , the monotonous camera movement, such a zoom, and we select the first one, we draw the first picture based on industrial production, and we can, without creating a new model based only on...

this is all created on a supercomputer, and oh, a supercomputer, this is an interesting topic, well, training the model itself and applying the model, well, it ’s called inference, this requires computational power, the model is huge after all, on an iphone, roughly speaking, it will not run on your smartphone, although progress is also being made towards this, so that it runs on a smartphone, but at the moment kandinsky is launched on the supercomputer cristofar, this is our supercomputer, on which we teach models both language and here. these generative ones, which turn text into a picture in a video, well, that’s where we actually use them, when you make a request, it flies to a supercomputer, it’s processed there, it’s where kanzinsky seems to live, yeah, that’s where he is - from the text makes a picture the picture is returned to you, whatever you use, a telegram bot or, well, in a bot - this is a certain number of iterations, that is, i go into the bot, talk about what kind of picture i want to create, the next picture comes.

competitors are spying on something, to be honest, and this is not artificial intelligence - this is not an exception, of course, but just how ahead are you of your competitors? and competition, relatively speaking, you read the news in the morning there in the evening in any case, and you probably also note to yourself that something happened that will affect who passed whom, so to speak, at the turn? and so it is, of course, yes , like, say, the area of ​​​​creating large models, although it requires a huge number of computing resources, data and specialists who will actually train it all, but in principle. technology, the only thing is that they have generation and the guys make a fairly similar video, no, but today we only watched animation, it’s not a video, after all, a full-fledged

video is the movement of everything, i have a question that concerns copyrights, intellectual property, it’s clear that leo tolstoy, here. said at the beginning there is everything there by leo tolstoy, it’s as if he didn’t pass it on as an inheritance to anyone, he’s an open story, yes, that’s when you load data into a supercomputer, and you license it, or they’re kind of in the public domain, or it’s not necessary, well, they not not about not that public domain, that is, they are on the internet rather public domain, yeah, when we uploaded them, after all, we don’t post their whole dataset with daddy, we don’t post it anywhere, of course, yeah, he...

the first picture is who the author is , artificial intelligence, or the person who ultimately generated all this. this is a very good question, in fact, who owns the copyright and, as it were, at the legislative level, all this is being developed and, let’s say, at some point it will probably be enshrined, although this is a very difficult question, you know , as they just said, there was an angel on my shoulder, an angel was sitting and he told me, when the creators of someone have difficulty in actually determining who the author is, there is data, definitely behind every photo. there is some author who took this photograph, that is, there is an author of the photograph, it’s another thing when there are one and a half billion of them, then it’s as if these authors are all somehow mixed up, and most likely there is no author, there is no author of one and a half billion photographs, that is, this a huge number of people, there are millions of people, on the other hand there is a company that

purchased a supercomputer with its own money, this is a very super-expensive undertaking, in fact, all the calculations took place on this supercomputer, that is, it can... have the right to the picture, on the other hand there is a person, one person who sits and promptly writes, in the end, and he can say, in fact, i am the author, that is, there are four sides, maybe even more, which in general, well, some... participation in the creation of the final picture, they made their contribution, but so far the story is that if a person, most likely, if a person, well, logically, each company does it in its own way in the end , if a person seems to pay for the fact that he used the neural network and received a picture, then he is the author

after all, this is most likely the case, and if motives are guessed there, based on motives, usually, if something is created, a license is issued anyway, i just want to say that such disputes arise only when the picture begins to bring huge money to the author, then a large number of other people arise who claim authorship, but there is actually still a point that the neural network itself can be, as if companies, developers, and so on can claim its authorship, the model itself has a license, for example, kandinsky and this also depends on, that is, a masterpiece is a model that has not been laid out. is not in the public domain, kandinsky, the opposite story, since our one of our first missions, i already talked about this, is to move the community as a whole and move science forward, then we put the model in the public domain, you can use the model , absolutely not for, as it were, without paying some

company and deploy it on your iphone, but why create such a model that is not widely available, so that some limited circle will use it?

fathers and sons from june 23 on the first. we continue the creative industry podcast, our guests today are the man who created the kandinsky neural network, denis dimitrov and elena kiper and roman karmanov, who are still with you. i’m wondering if i’ve generated a masterpiece, then when i’ve created his masterpiece, it’s just a picture.

impossible, yes, but how it was created, this is how kandinsky creates - pictures, i can also tell you on my fingers, imagine how a person creates a picture, any, any image, any painting, he has some kind of white canvas, well not necessarily white, just white paper, some kind of blank, napkin, napkin, yes, there is a tablet screen, he definitely has some kind of idea, he starts sketching out some details, with a pen, uh, stylus, whatever . adds details, maybe removes something, well, a person also has patterns in his head, that is, he has memorized something, he has, now

he has patterns, this is after training, so step by step he simply creates a picture how kandinsky creates a model, in principle an analogy can be drawn, he begins to draw a picture from the so-called white noise, what is it, well, this is when there is no signal on the tv, there is such interference, just some kind of matrix, naturally there is your request, this is... the very idea, as if in a person it is expressed by these signals from neurons, in a neural network it is expressed simply by numbers, which are the text into which the text is encoded, and from this matrix, step by step, in the process of removing noise in the right direction , an image is created, that is, creating images from this white, this white noise, from this matrices can be simply visualized, that is , there are 100 steps or a thousand steps during which any noise is created from this noise. and the final picture is visualized, appears, so to speak, for example, you want to make a pug in space, yeah, so

you always have white noise at the beginning, and step by step you get a pug in space at the end of this process, if the noise is a little another, it is clear that the noise can be as desired, that is, swap two pixels there, there will be another, but also a mob in space, this matrix, it is in in a sense, the models are responsible for the fantasy, this can be visualized, but this process, in principle, there is an analogy with a person in this sense, and you do all this every day, and we do all this, well, russia does not do all this every day , we are doing all this, and we are improving the neural network every day so that it is better. this process, let’s talk about the horrors of the future. this is just from what you just said, is it possible to assume

that in the future, yes, a person will do without this intermediary, right from heads to generate their own images, well , let’s say, on some kind of canvas, i don’t know, well, in the digital sense, of course, in fact there is research, i would not say that this is just a super big practice there and that it is actively used there , but... there are studies that make it possible to decode brain signals, that is, you know, they put an electrical signal reader in the head and, for example, you can, without words, roughly ...

you can actually train a model, who understands you without words and draws a picture if you need to draw a picture, but the limitation of these models is that for each person, for now, you still need to learn your own model, that is, for each person, when he imagines a palm tree, the signals are slightly different, that is, like one model for now that it is impossible to train for all people, and it is expensive to teach a model for each person, and you need a supercomputer for each person, you need a supercomputer, until there is... some kind of universal thing that everyone understands, in general, i hope i i hope not soon, and what’s more, it’s all the same will remain, that is, there is no need to be afraid of it, even though it sounds somewhat futuristic, but there is no need to be afraid of it either, because in general it will be used by people who, for some reason, cannot write, and if you know how to write, then you won’t attach electrodes to your head, you will, it will be easier for you

to write, were there moments when you realized that the neural network that you created was doing something like that? you didn’t predict it, secondly , is it necessary to think about limiting it somehow, actually speaking, in fact, here are all the generative models that are being created so far, and those that will be created, they tend to golucinate at some point, this is the official term, this means that if the neural network does not know something, but you asked her to create it anyway, she can’t create it, let’s put it this way, that is, she creates something, well, not what you want. and something is wrong, but it creates it anyway, and this is probably best seen with and can be traced, as it were, with language models, here you know, when gpt came out, these problems were especially visible, and they asked what was heavier, a kilogram of fluff or a kilogram of lead, well , it is clear that in the training data the neural network saw the word fluff with the word light, it saw much more often than fluff with the word

heavy, well, on the contrary, which is logical, and of course she answers that a kilogram of lead means heavier.

code no, that’s okay, it’s some kind of deo, and you know how he sees us like this, yeah, wow, wow, why does he make us look younger, look, he’s giving us compliments, yes, he’s hallucinating, and i see you, in the form of a prom in my head, that’s exactly what you look like, too, and i’ll actually tell you how photorealistic portraits are made, we have a team that deals with detecting fakes. well, you know, now this is a particularly relevant, urgent problem, well, with the development of generative models , you can generally make a bunch of fakes and post them on the internet, and this can bring huge losses to both companies and states, and all sorts of reputational costs, that is, you need to learn to distinguish what created by a neural network that no, actually, within the framework of detecting fakes, we decided to make a model that generates fakes, why, then, so

that on the dataset that generates the generative model for creating fakes... to complete the detection model and here we are, as it were, within the framework of this here's work on fake detection, they made a fake generation model and applied it here, that is, how does kandinsky create your face? first there is a model that describes you, then kandinsky creates your image, with a tiger, for example, you can put in anything, there on the sea, i don’t know, in winter, on alpine skiing, and then the fake generation model, this one of ours, which helped the fake detection model, simply transfers the face, that is, this. commands and the main conclusion, even if we don’t understand everything in general in the end, there’s still nothing to be afraid of, look at how nice, smart people

are doing those things that you and i may be afraid of for some reason, there’s no need to be afraid, because this is the competitiveness of our country, and it is in the reliable hands of people like denis. denis, thank you thank you very much, we are waiting for the next stage, antennas on your head. analogue versions of the presenters, elena kiper, producer, music video director and roman karmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives. it was a creative industry podcast on channel one. see you! there are a lot of contradictory personalities and characters in our history; if i were making a rating on this matter,

i would probably put pyotr chaodayev in first place. this man loved russia very much and scolded her mercilessly, with his eyes open. well it was for these open eyes that they actually called him crazy.

he was not on his own path, he was in some ways similar to the decembrists, in some ways he was very independent, a nobleman, he studied at moscow state university, attended lectures on philosophy together with his friend, the famous decembrist yakushkin, and griboyedov. by the way, there is a version that the prototype of chadsky, in grief from his mind , was actually copied from chadayev.

he took part in the battle of borodino, near yaroslavets, in fact , chadayev took part in all the most important battles and at the end in the end he reached paris with the russian army and received orders there for all these battles. war, later rose to the rank of captain, then resigned. alexander i offered the post of his aide-de-camp. however, this means that chadayev refused this. just like the decembrist, he was a freemason, and achieved considerable degrees there, in the masonic lodges. he was a member of the union of welfare, that is, from the organization where decembrism came from. in fact, the west influenced decembrism itself to a huge extent, influenced, of course, to a huge extent on itself chadayev, although from my point of view there is,

like a kind of paradox, there are many such contradictions and paradoxes around the figure of chadayev, he was, i would say, even more of a westerner, yes, than the decembrist, but at the same time he belonged to the same west. well, in my opinion, still more critical, he was always on his own, he didn’t want to imitate anyone, although of course, this is the fact that he visited the west, and he visited england, france, switzerland, italy, germany, of course, this left an imprint on his entire worldview, when he returned to russia, he was arrested, by the way, he was arrested for 40 days... there, and nicholas i demanded that he testify that he was not a member of secret societies and so on, well, after 40

days of him released, here. when he returned to russia, he didn’t find any of his friends, so to speak, because they were all already in hard labor or in exile there, and so on, and almost the only person in nikolaev russia with whom he became friends came close, it was just alexander sergeevich pushkin, and pushkin dedicated a whole series of well-known lines to him, even directly from the alexander era, but no, well, he continued and further, so to speak, this is friendship. lasted, here are the well-known, say, lines that are dedicated specifically to chaodaev, pushkin’s, the christ-making, comrade, believe, she will come, the star of captivating happiness, russia will rise from the foundation on the block of autocracy , they will write our names, this is just one of the dedications, so to speak , chiodaeva, chiodaev’s actual message, yes, here, speaking of resignation, there is a mysterious story about the resignation, which was discussed about the resignation of chiodayev and... it

was discussed very much in society then, because chadav was, despite his youth, he was 23 years old at that moment, he was very famous in society, well, a bright figure, seryozh, as for age, then here they forget about the historical context, he became a student at moscow state university at the age of 14, yes, first as a listener, yes, then as a student, yes, yes, so 23 years was a lot in those days, in general then people matured much faster than now , it's not bad or good, it's just statement of fact. so many copies have been broken among researchers, among those, among contemporaries, there were rumors regarding the cause of his resignation, one of the rumors was that he supposedly cared so much about his toilets that that’s why he was late, and he was sent there in connection with news of the uprising of the semenovsky regiment, and he went to alexander, who at that time was outside the russian border, as

a courier who was supposed to report the uprising of the semenovsky regiment, in which, in in which his friends the decembrists, but future decembrists, did not take part, but who were actually accused of this, they were then sent to different troops, although the uprising was connected with a very simple thing, arakcheevets was appointed commander of the regiment, so ardent, schwartz, colonel schwartz , who brought the regiment with his nagging, his corporal punishment to the point of rebellion, practically tortured, tortured punishments, and it must be said that semenov’s... is a guards regiment, in which, in principle , corporal punishment was present then actively in the russian army, they were usually not used, including veterans of the '12 war and foreign campaigns, who , of course, being ordinary soldiers, were not accustomed to such an attitude towards themselves, and so ekhailovich lotman, speaking about the reasons for resignation , throwing aside all this gossip, but there was one more gossip that needs to be mentioned, that he allegedly denounced his comrades, and accused them of the uprising, alexander i, to say, treated

this with contempt. nose, this is absolute gossip, nothing there was no such thing, it is not based on anything, but there was a story, a really interesting one, showing in many ways the character of peter yaadaev in this regard. yuri mikhailovich lotman, our most famous philologist, historian, researcher, interpreted chaadaev’s act in such a way that he expressed to alexander his opinion about the reasons for the speech of the semenovsky regiment, mentioning, of course, serfdom. at that time , schiller's drama don carlos, in which such a marquis pose is present, was very popular in russia. expression, by the way, yes by regarding the pose that can be taken, this part is taken from there, and so the marquis-pose, speaks the truth to the dictator, the tyrant, and thanks to this he must become, accordingly, close to him, in this logic, including literary logic, pyotr yakolevich yaadaev, according to lotman, expressed it to alexander, and at the same time, in order to gain alexander’s trust, it was necessary

to refuse almost all rewards. and chiodaev tried to act as a critic and, accordingly, here his career inevitably had to end, and there was an element humiliation in this sense, because when chiadaev was dismissed, he was dismissed in the same rank, usually they were given higher ranks, and he was dismissed in the same rank of rotmister, in addition , his letter to his aunt was illustrated, which is very she took care of him, looked after him very much, her parents died early, and he wrote

to her, it was... choadaeva, then of course they are absolutely unique, they figure in this history of russian thought, it’s not even a current, it’s some kind of pole , causing severe such magnetic storms, here he is... it seems that he did everything possible so that his compatriots, so to speak, would not love him, so he was a student of european philosophy, to a large extent a mystical philosopher, he also argued with westerners, he argued more or less

correctly , and as for the slavophiles, or more precisely, so to speak, the nascent slavophilia, because it was just emerging then, and in many ways he contributed, that is, he gave birth to the antipodes, so to speak, like this, this movement, he is very spoke sharply about this very sarcastically, well, here’s one quote on this subject from chadayev: in moscow, every foreigner is taken to see a big cannon, a big bell, a cannon from which you can’t fire, and a bell that fell down before it rang, an amazing city in which... the sights are absurd, or maybe this is a large bell without a tongue, a hieroglyph expressing this huge silent country that is inhabited by a tribe who called themselves slavs, as if i was surprised that

the human word has, well, it’s insulting of course, it can be cruel, it’s insulting to a large extent unfairly, it really crashed even before it started, and these famous philosophical letters of chiodayev were written. in 1828-31, but for quite a long time very few knew about them, because they were not published, but were circulated in lists, but this was a kind of publishing house at that time, so to speak, that’s why there was some kind of intellectual elite, courtiers too, i probably read all this before, but the bomb exploded in 1936, when these philosophical...

enlightenment threw the cloak of civilization to us, we they started crying, but did not touch enlightenment, we have something in our blood that rejects any real progress, well, that is, this is

still a delusional idea that russia and progress are incompatible, in fact, in one phrase you can sum it all up, this sharp prick or pebble thrown into the water, so to speak. chodaev wrote only about the nikolaev era, he criticized it, well, probably, many would understand this, the meaning of this is so deep. what i just quoted, this fragment, it is of course broader, he is, he writes, this is a criticism of the past, the present, and the future itself, if russia is not able to progress, it means that everything

is the same for the future, and of course, it was very difficult to tolerate this, but in the old days they very often wrote that the authorities were indignant , outraged. contemporaries wrote: never since people began to read and write in russia has any literary or scientific event had such a huge impact. for about a month there was hardly a house in the whole of moscow in which they did not talk about the chaodayev story. even the round ignoramuses barons, officials who drowned in embezzlement and bribery, half-crazed saints, young... fatherland-loving old patriots, everything

was united in one common cry of curse and contempt for the person who dared to insult russia, and there is a lot of similar evidence, that is, in other words, well, this cry , yes, there are screams, so it turns out that in unison, the authorities, strictly speaking, the public, screamed, they were like a friendly family. there is no need to expand on this. yana, you don’t understand how dangerous this is. kidnapping, attempt on the life of a policeman, hostage taking. i was watching tv, and there i shot. oleg, well, will get them out of there. the police are looking for a woman and a boy. no one is looking for a man and a girl. we look like circurods, honestly. for europe, the most important thing is that when a father abandons his children, he is called the biological father. i didn't leave you. then why weren't you with us? by the way. our estonian colleagues left behind with

dogs, they will be taken in soon, colleague, we need to save him, he himself started this mess, let him sort out what he’s going through, in my opinion, minibus, or something, we can’t go to a colleague, you know, it’s better if we stay here, not a colleague, to dad, he did everything for me, for you, and we are betraying him, one chance for three, premiere, tomorrow after the program time. this is a historical podcast, we continue the conversation about pyotr yakovlecha chaodayev. even alexander sergeevich pushkin, who was complacent towards him and very affectionate towards pyotr yakovlevich, spoke out against chaadaev’s position. he wrote about him, he is higher by the will of heaven, born in the shackles of the royal service, he would have been a brute in rome, crossed the cross in athens, but here he is a hussar officer. it was.

chiodaev is right, and he did not limit himself to criticizing chiodaev before peter’s story. and he writes: as for our historical insignificance, i absolutely cannot agree with you, the warriors of oleg and svyatoslav, even the appanage strife, isn’t this a life full of ebullient expression, ardent and aimless activity, which is distinguished by the youth of all... peoples the tatar invasion is a sad and great spectacle, the awakening of russia,

the development of its power, its movement towards unity, towards russian unity, of course, both ivans, the majestic drama that began in uglich, is all this really not history, but just a pale, half-forgotten dream, and peter the great, who has one whole story, and catherine ii, who put russia on the threshold of europe, and alexander, who brought you. i am far from being delighted with everything that i see around me, as writers irritate me, as a person with prejudices i am offended, this is speaking about modernity. but i swear on my honor, for nothing in the world i would not want to change my fatherland to have another history other than history our ancestors, the way god gave it to us, and the lines are actually brilliant, and here with... there is such a point of view that what he wrote, these philosophical letters, calls it a kind of intellectual provocation, well, in fact , this is probably the way it is, it happened, it happened, although i

think that many were irritated precisely by the fact that they understood perfectly well that, well, i don’t know, this is not... they called him crazy, but this is not some statements by some holy fool, like in the old days, and this is not some kind of public outrage, the fact of the matter is that this was written absolutely seriously, these are such hard-won thoughts, the potential that exists is very important here, and russia has enormous potential, so in any case, you can’t watch it. only for today, but this very premise of chaadaev, that in the past, in today’s, in the future, it does not work, in fact it does not work, this publication, it produced the effect of such an explosion, so it was necessary to react to it somehow, well, nikolai, as you already said, reacted

in his usual manner, he summed up the scandal, taking into account: the painful state of the unfortunate government, in its care, ordered him not to leave the house, to provide him with free medical benefits, in general he was under this house arrest, he was allowed out only for one walk every day, and so he was forbidden to write and leave the house, this continued for a whole year, and a doctor came to him every day with the chief of police . state and, by the way, in the era of catherine there was already one crazy chaadaev, there was such a major of the semyonovsky regiment chiodaev, who considered the god of the persian shah, dictator, so he was also in

such a court hospital, along with other outstanding personalities, there was a monk who cut off all sorts of causal places. so chiodaev is a philosopher, and from that chiodaev they also tried to treat him and drive out demons from him and so on, but the ichadaev philosophers also kind of suspected him of being demonic, so to speak, and also in their own way tried to drive these out of him demons the reading public is most upset by nikolai himself, there uvarov, the minister of education, benkendor was prompted by the phrase: the paragraph that was probably the most harsh, i will quote: peoples are moral beings, just like individuals. in parentheses, i note that he considered the moral law to be the main thread of the development of society, and in general his philosophical letters are letters about the philosophy of history, first of all, and this philosophy of history by uchadaev is completely religious, that is, the moral law,

the gospel law, yes, it is realized in history, in this sense it’s a little reminds me of the late schelling, probably, but these are different, different details. they are raised by centuries, just as people are raised by years. it can be said about us that we constitute, as it were , an exception among peoples; we belong to those of them who, as it were, are not part of the human race, but exist only to teach a great lesson to the world. these words will then be quoted very often. in different contexts. opponents of the bolsheviks, disillusioned with russia because of the october revolution, will call this lesson to the world the october revolution revolution, quote chaadaev. in its turn. critics of the tsarist regime will use this phrase in order to strengthen their arguments criticizing the autocracy and so on, a very quotable phrase, but often taken out of context, but the fact is that chiodayev really puts the west, namely europe, at the center of the world from this fragment.