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in beijing, both the vhenyang people and the plane could not receive, so vladimir vladimirovich had to stay in beijing for about a day and only then, after the end of the visit, it was actually time to see off, and only then fly to khinyan, by the way, then the leader was the father of the current leader kimjongir, the visit was regarded as very successful, after that there were... many such interesting steps, interesting decisions, including, i won’t talk about politics now, including the decision to build an orthodox church in hinyan, he was really built, it is now working, and some of our senior diplomats in hinyan even got married there with their wives, as far as i know, in general, i myself was also in this temple, it is quite real , such a cult object, let’s say,
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they conduct worship koreans, priests, orthodox, koreans, as for the visit, they expect quite a lot from it, because this, as i already said, is an extraordinary event, there will be conversations about why this is not ordinary, but because north korea is such a unique country except chinese leaders, i especially don’t remember that anyone, especially in recent years , had been there at all...
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worked there and it was almost impossible, because well, there was just a very ardent senator, well, i have a question for you, excuse me, my ignorance of diplomatic protocol, it was announced that the president was going to vietnam on a state visit to north korea on a friendly state visit, the word friendly in this case has a meaning, well, it has more of an emotional meaning, because... such as far as i know, there is no protocol term, well, apparently , for some reason they didn’t call this visit a state visit, apparently, it was quite protocol, so they called it friendly, they said friendly and state, and both, well, that is, this is this unusual, but no, of course, and this, well, most likely it was on the initiative of the korean side, which took this very seriously, as far as i know, there is a conversation about developing documents for signing. but he walks, as always in such
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cases, quite tightly and seriously, and that will be signed, we will still find out on the last day, so i would say, there is no need to make predictions here, okay, you can probably make more predictions regarding vietnam, where there was less secrecy, at least even i know that the united states they really didn’t want this visit, unlike north korea, which america cannot really put pressure on. vietnam is its weight category, its authority, its independence in the international arena, but still not at all such that one can say that the americans can attack it to put so much pressure on the vietnamese to object to the visit of the russian president, i consider this impossible, another thing is that yes, the united states of america is pursuing a very active policy towards vietnam, a policy. it’s possible, but some degree
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of approximation, probably the americans are building into their policy, well, vietnam is a very serious country, the leaders of vietnam are experienced and politically sophisticated people, the relations of the americans, we all understand that vietnam still, well, has the right to my specific point of view, vietnam the winner of the war with the united states of america, so what else?
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we have cooperation from tropical medicine to education, i take it, so to speak, on the humanitarian agenda, we have very serious projects in the field of transport, including maritime transport, there is something to discuss, i think that our delegation to
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vietnam will with such a serious economic goal, well, i’ll come back to this visit, especially i want to talk to you a little later about how far away... the summit, which without russia’s participation, was held in switzerland. i want to ask you, general andrei valerievich kortopololov, chairman of the duma committee on defense, you were formerly deputy minister of defense. that's when you looked at the big picture,
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first, what was happening in italy, at the seven, what was happening at this gathering, where there were about 90 countries. are you really worried about something? powerlessness and inability, which they are trying to wrap in some kind of brilliant candy wrappers of pseudo-struggle for something good called help for ukraine, democracy,
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here’s something else, in fact, all this is vomit, and what they say is vomit, because they understand perfectly well that they cannot do anything, that their whole... policy is aimed at prolonging the conflict in ukraine, is doomed to failure, and the fact that they, as politicians and as leaders, are afraid to tell themselves, first of all, and their people that this is so, suggests that they, well, cannot express the interests of their own. voters and their peoples, you know, i actually agree with you not only analytically, but also emotionally, i remember how president ronald reagan was constantly indignant, how his predecessor jimmy carter constantly cheated for america, and
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reagan, one of the reasons why he was elected to the white house, that he said that he would stand proud like a rock. other leaders of america’s allied countries perceived, well, he just looked the way
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he really looks, apparently, either they didn’t have time to bring him these energy drinks, or they didn’t give him enough to make him look more active, that’s not the point here, here you are with andrei ivanovich began to talk about an upcoming visit to...
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will express no opinion of their own, so their end is sad, and their future is dark, after all, but while we have not yet reached this future, we will still come to it, and let me, let me be devil's advocate, come on, after all, they decided to give tens of billions of dollars more to ukraine at the seventh, they are pumping ukraine up with weapons. these weapons are already being supplied to the ukrainian armed forces and are beginning to be used, this will not
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have any results, it will not be used on the battlefield will have no results that they are counting on, explain, that means i explain, today the amount of money and samples of weapons and equipment that they give is not able to change. the situation on the battlefield, firstly, because, well, money still needs to be invested, in fact, for it to work, so that later from this money you can get what is necessary for combat operations, this is time, this is time, and this is this not a week or two there or a month, these are years, as for the immediate weapons that they are not transferring, but look at what they are transferring, they are already transferring what is barely. they are scraping together not only in these moldy warehouses, but they
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are trying from all over the world to collect, buy and carry something there, all this is brought, all this is promptly discovered and promptly hit by our long-range fire weapons, all this multiplies to the frenzy with with which the tskashny ludolovs gather the last men throughout ukraine. you understand what the problem is, they are afraid, that’s when they say that we are afraid that putin will come, they really are afraid, they are not lying here, but they are afraid, they can’t do anything, so i think that we will give money, we will give everything, let these remnants of ukrainians fight there, just to get us they didn’t touch us, as long as they didn’t touch us, and we will quietly continue to do what they say in america, maybe they won’t scold us for it.
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objectively, from my point of view, they created a real threat to american security, no one else was going to create it, they are doing it.
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century to a full-scale world war, thinking that it would be such an easy walk until the winter cold, it turned out to be catastrophic for several empires and in general for europe as a civilization in fact, because it brought down all those humanistic ideas that
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were nurtured throughout the 19th century, so that’s when i look at this situation , it seems to me that this... shows these people who were gathering in italy, there are also elements of samnambulism in these ranks, you mentioned president biden, so in general, in my opinion, he fits this category in every sense, but if we talk about the political meaning, then here is stoltenberg’s statement, what is it about? well, you can build up as much as you like, conventional components of weapons, nuclear ones, but what is the final point of this escalation, so someone can formulate in... the west the idea that they are launching a nuclear strike on russia, i think not one sober-minded politician still doesn’t build a so-so picture, then what, then what’s the point of this? that is, this is a game that involves balancing all the time on the edge of something like this collapse into some kind of abyss, with the idea
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that after all we will not fall into this abyss, and historical experience shows that such good forecasts do not always come true, sometimes...
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a communist, but the first thing he did after how a terrorist, a domestic terrorist, wounded him, shortly after he assumed the presidency, write a handwritten letter to brezhnev about how he understands the need to build normal relations, and you know, when a person is, excuse me, almost dying, and he writes such a letter, it
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it had to be sincere, after that... gardievsky. yeah, who was a soviet intelligence officer who was recruited by the british, here he played a certain useful service, confirming that
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indeed the fears in moscow were serious and real, plus, of course, then the soviet union had an amazing ambassador in washington, anatoly dobrynin, and he was amazing not just because he was amazing, but because the american country allowed him.
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stoltenberg’s statement, you understand, after all , nato does not have its own nuclear forces, so everything that he says, this has no basis, that is, in moscow it doesn’t scare anyone, but that’s not the point, the point is that nato cannot use nuclear weapons without the decision of the countries that possess them, and this is the united states , these are great britain and france. nato must take this into account even in its planning.
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come, because the debates that are coming, they really, well, will not be in biden’s favor, he will lose them, he will lose them to trump, because trump, he reasons sensibly, he says what is understandable no one understands what biden is saying to the ordinary voter today, i’m even afraid that biden himself does not understand what he is saying, so expecting any steps from them today is useless, we understand this perfectly well. we understand this very well, and what we are doing is a signal to them, this is what our president vladimir vladimirovich putin said,
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formulating the conditions for a ceasefire in ukraine, specifically, clearly, understandably and intelligibly, even before them, this is his upcoming visit , and these are the actions of our guys on the battlefield. okay, andrei ivanovich, that’s just it that the general described president putin’s latest peace proposal, western commentators unanimously say that the idea that the west will now agree to voluntarily transfer additional territories in ukraine to russia is unrealistic. they conclude that if this is so, then putin did not mean to seriously negotiate, that this is just
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some kind of trick, i even read from some american officials the idea that since putin made this offer, it means he is afraid, and of course, i’m starting to think about december 21. the proposals were immediately accepted, but it seemed to me and many others that, in general, negotiations were not starting from a position that was
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completely acceptable to the other country. and that therefore, if the united states wanted to defuse the situation, then one could say, we are definitely not inviting ukraine to nato in the near future, let’s sit down at the table, as you suggested, and talk about how to find a mutually acceptable formula, nevertheless, this is a russian proposal was very arrogant, completely rejected, i see the same answer today, they generally... at least something are able to learn, they are able to remember what happened quite recently, to understand that if they completely reject russian proposals like this, without any discussion, then they are playing with fire, you know, in the old school, in the gymnasium, vladimir is probably talking about this nikolayevich, as a historian, can tell a lot, they taught not only methods of persuasion, but also forced him to kneel on peas and hit his hands with a pointer. and all this had a completely
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positive effect from an educational point of view, well, by the way, you said that characterizes our proposal, western opponents, as putin’s trick, but the fact is that the word trick was very appropriately used by vladimir vladimirovich himself, speaking about this very conference on ukraine, which took place just now, he called it... a clever one in order to divert the conversation from real problems , as for the real problems, let’s state what is already obvious: the conflict in ukraine, everything connected with it, is not only inseparable from the issues of ensuring russia’s security in a broader context, but it is absolutely, not even
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close, it's basically the same thing. were tougher than the previous ones, take the proposal purely on the ukrainian plot, yes, minsk, then istanbul, which collapsed, take issues related to security, really now you look back at december 2021, and i just want, honestly, purely in a professional sense , bite your elbow, this was all quite feasible, and without
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any recognition, let’s say. the defeat of one side or the other, this was indeed, as you rightly say, the starting position for negotiations, and there was no need for the western opponents to make a great effort to, well, at least express readiness to discuss this issue, this is all that was required of them at that moment, absolutely true, but this was not done, and we have what we have now, now all that remains is to hit my hands with a ruler, thank you. we’ll go to advertising, and after that i’ll ask vladimir nikolaevich rudakov if he knows the historical precedents of the conference that just met in switzerland and to which one of the parties was not invited conflict, let's go to advertising, mr. nauseda, the new, old president of lithuania,
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kisses the ukrainian flag folded in a triangle in the funeral, this is news for lithuanian mothers that such a flag will knock on our homes. russia must immediately unconditionally withdraw all its forces and military equipment, he kisses biden's hand and shows that they are ready to do absolutely anything. he has two daughters, they both no longer live in lithuania. the baltic countries are primarily under attack. our last and decisive battle. we are talking about a new one.
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no, it looks like i’ll never be on the list, listen, but you won’t be in my turn to sew, well , if i get a job, close your eyes, the people behind this door sew haute couture and work with imports, it’s disgusting, it’s not about the suit, it’s about when you were taken to the section, you were warned that we have special clients here and that the attitude towards them should also be special, tanyusha, live in courtesy, have dinner with me, i came here to work, not to wag my tail , what are you doing, give me a bula, no, wait, no, no, no, volodya, who is this, madisky,
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here we are trying on trousers, the date is so modest, you can’t say that she’s a heartbreaker, so the situation is like this, i met a girl and fell in love with her, haven’t you forgotten that we are discussing our wedding at your house this evening, then... matters from june 23 on the first, i’m married to one, but i love someone else, it seems, there’s a big game on the air, the so-called peace conference in ukraine, peace garden, has just ended in switzerland.
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let's try to find these analogies, because what lies at the heart of this crisis, a huge eurasian country, russia has publicly announced that she is concerned about the situation that is developing around her security issues, in all different aspects, and proposed to agree on how to create and modify the system that exists. and the crisis that we are now witnessing is the result of what we talked about, the result of the fact that the west refused. discuss, this conference is taking place without the participation of the country that was the first to voice its concerns that the structure of the international situation may be durable, because takes into account her interests. so i come to
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an analogy with september of the thirty-eighth year with the munich conference, with the munich agreement, where exactly the same countries, on the one hand, the democratic countries of the west, england and france, on the other hand, and hitler and musalini discussed the fate of czechoslovakia, which they discussed in this way that czechoslovakia was not even invited there, but lost a huge part of its sovereignty, its territory, of course, russia is not pre-war czechoslovakia, russia is a huge country, with enormous potential, with huge influence in the world, we see this today, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow we will see when there are reports, for example, regarding the visit of our president to asia, this... the move that was demonstrated in switzerland, of course, demonstrates the completely disregardful attitude of western countries those who initiate the actual isolation of russia see that this isolation is not
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being implemented, and nevertheless continue to push this line. from the point of view of the situation in ukraine, this is an absolutely counterproductive story, because neither this conference did not bring the resolution of this crisis any closer, well, one might say. the feast of effect that was achieved, probably it was achieved, although it was very blurred, a huge number of countries invited there expressed a special opinion about the documents that were signed there, and some did not. refused to visa them, but from the point of view of a real settlement, this is rather a negative result, but they always say in the collective west of russian aggression, and that nato’s actions were exclusively defensive, and that russia, i like this most of all, and russia knows this very well, so excuse me again, i remind you that i lived in washington in the nineties and lived in the 2000s.
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whose army attacked russian peacekeepers, from your point of view,
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let’s take this period from the early nineties to 2008, what russia did, which could be considered so shocking from the point of view of the collective west. well, now , looking back, many generally believe that russia behaved extremely peacefully in this situation, in fact, in 2007. to the expansion of nato to the east, and this concerned,
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of course, the territory of the former soviet union, you mentioned south ossetia, the attack of georgia, with the wrong hands the west tried to get into where russia felt in such a sensitive position , not in a safe position in the event that the west achieves its plans, so it’s more likely the other way around, and the west seeing russia’s rather peaceful partnership attitude. tried, well, as they say on the street, to squeeze out for myself as many preferences as possible on this space, and russia for a long, long time made it clear to the west that this cannot be done, when it began, that is, to take, take appropriate actions to ensure security, the west began to interpret this as aggressive actions, aggressive actions are when efforts are made against other countries, in order to weaken them, to somehow humiliate them , to get something at their expense, we, if we look at... the history of russia’s relations in new russia
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after the ninety-first year , there were no such steps on its part, and what is now a special military operation is taking place, this is not a special military operation in order to annex ukraine and russia, such goals were never set, throughout this entire period you served in the russian armed forces and occupied increasingly larger positions. here in terms of the russian structure. armed forces, the formation of the russian armed forces, do you know any moments before the conflict in 2014, we understand what we are talking about in 2014, were there any moments that could have caused nato’s legitimate concern, not only did they not exist, but until 2004, we very actively cooperated with nato. we conducted joint exercises on the territory of russia, including, they
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calmly came to us, we conducted a lot of naval exercises, i myself remember taking part, as the chief of staff of the district in 203, in joint russian-norwegian exercises, i was in bergen, i was in kirkenes, i flew all over norway on a patrol plane. it's in american and norwegian, but it's made in america, and well, we communicated normally. and we talked , among other things, with military personnel of nato countries, we found understanding, a military man will always understand a military man, but this is what began after 2014, after the maidan, when the west began to simply
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turn ukraine over like this and make it is a real bandera bandit state and makes... it a threat, i emphasize, a threat to the russian federation. in ukraine at this time the murder of the russian-speaking population continued, not only in donbass, by the way, one can recall odessa and many, many other cases. and we said many times, listen, well, let’s not do this, let’s do this, let’s do this, because i listened to what they said about the minsk agreements, but... zelensky is not even close it was, and i, grigory borivich karasin, by the way, took part in the preparation and conclusion of these minsk agreements, i perfectly remember poroshenko with shaking hands and alcohol-filled eyes, i remember his entire delegation, i remember how i spoke with the chief of the general staff
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the then ukrainian muzhenko, told him where his troops were located under debayts, he didn’t know about it, had no idea, and... then we really thought that this minsk agreement would preserve peace and stability, it would serve to resolve this crisis that had formed at that time, but now there are tricks, it was all the other way around, it was the west that used the minsk agreements to pump ukraine up with weapons, to train its armed forces, for...
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you don’t understand, if this train accelerates, no one will stop him, i didn’t believe him then, because i was talking and he very
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energetically, very energetically convinced everyone that he was a friend of russia and understood perfectly well that not only about any ukraine in nato, but also about any soviet republics in general nato, that this cannot be discussed, in 1996 president clinton spoke at my center. and talked about how he believes in russia, how he believes in partnership with russia, there was a wonderful secretary of defense, bill perry, who was very concerned about the possibility of nuclear distribution, so i’m still trying to ask myself the question, this is where, how why , the washington establishment has almost come to a consensus that... how can one deal with russia? do you have an opinion on this? well, my opinion is, you know, everyday, there are processes, including in such a completely
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everyday way, that cannot be stopped. once they have started, they will not stop, they cannot be slowed down, they cannot be turned back, well, for example, pregnancy, in the year ninety-seven this very beginning took place, and then, yes, like a snowball. that i never thought about these terms, it’s really like pregnancy, there are things, you know, you can’t take the position that you should never start anything, even quite reasonable, because it can be taken to the point of absurdity, but there are some things , which you can’t, you can’t do if you’re not ready to go to the end, i understand you, well, that means those who started it were ready to go to the end, because...
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in the first year he wrote an amazing poem to the slanderers of russia called, i won’t cite it in its entirety now, it is
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quite voluminous, by the way, vladim nikolaevich published it in his last issue of the magazine, and so there is a conclusion there, in my opinion, absolutely prophetic lines, or there are few of us, or from perm to taurida, from finnish cold rocks to fiery... calchis from the restless kremlin , the walls of motionless china sparkling with steel bristles, the russian land will not rise, so send your embittered sons to the victorious, they have a place in the fields of russia among the coffins that are alien to them, so they want, so be it, thank you, there is no stronger way to say it, we are leaving for...
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germany, because there were millions of such unknown soldiers. literature is a selective art. i may read it, or i may not know about the existence of this book, but cinema is still a miracle, you must agree. shipitka took down the parable. his work is quite realistic, in the choice that a person makes, she translated this humanistic interpretation into a religious plan, she made a christian movie. people should not fight, find humanity in each other, reach out to each other. here sits in it. this thought, it was very important for him, i really want these testimonies of those who survived the war to be as truthful and honest as possible, if not
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every generation, then every 30-40 years , it is necessary... of course, contact bykov, this is a writer who raised the eternal questions of the existence or disappearance of man in man. on the centenary of the birth of vasil bykov, the premiere is on the first tomorrow. we chose two heads of poland, two former presidents, called them from petro poroshenko, here is the issue of importing ukrainian grain, farmers arrive, they blockade cities. what is a ukrainian in front of a pole: on your belly, on your knees, crawl here, we supply thorns to europe, we got out of here, we are planning world domination, listen, if they overhear us, it will turn out that we are going to the kremlin together. america is leaving western europe at the mercy of the confrontation with russia now; apparently, france and poland will be at the forefront of this adventure. poland is the kind of country
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that will do anything for money. i hope that in ukraine they will... remember that level help, it was a gigantic help that has not yet been compensated, well, you still have to pay for it, yes, and we will remind you every penny, what is the true price of polish-ukrainian friendship, the vanavan and lexus show on wednesday at the first, take a look, thanks. but what should this phantom do? kiss the first person to walk through that door? water and war are your only beloved woman for life. you are my wife, i am your husband, and it will always be so. on march 2, emperor
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nicholas abdicated the throne. power passed to time. let us now see the future, as if through a dark glass, but faith, hope, love remain with us, and love is the greatest of them. admiral, on friday on the first. this year we celebrate the seventy-ninth anniversary of the great victory. let's talk about songs of the war years.
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i remember the infantry. for me, the most heartfelt songs are those that were heard in our films: death is not terrible, the great song that alexander vasilyevich alexandrov wrote when there were the most terrible battles, of course, this song is a symbol of our army, 17 february 1944, comrade gotsman, that is, my grandfather, was able to destroy 150 by himself
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. well, with a completely different intonation, but with the same deep meaning that alexandrich pushkin put there, in general it must be said that pushkin in this sense is of course the personification of such a thing ... the patriotic part of the russian elite of the 19th century, an elite that was raised on the values ​​of the victory over napoleon, the war of the twelfth year, and despite different relations with the authorities, and pushkin had different relations with alexander i, with nicholas i, everything equally love for the homeland, love for the native ashes, as pushkin called it, yes, and this was an irrevocable inner feeling, the core around which creativity was formed, and pushkin’s civic position, so we decided... to remind our readers about this side as well talent, a side that i would call citizen talent. a couple of months ago we discussed the amazing film from einstein, ivan the terrible,
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and you know, about this discussion, we took part in it, and we talked about how a genius differs from just a very a talented person, that he has some kind of inner feeling. some kind of vision that allows him to say things that remain relevant and significant many, many years later, but let's return now to the actuality of that, return to where we started, the president's visit to north korea, to vietnam, and of course more broadly, russian relations with china, which caused...
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