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that’s all we read, well, in general, to a large extent, because there was another translator who translated gamzatov, but grebnev was one of those people who kind of did this, he was a genius, a rhassoul in his own right , like his dad, was also a national poet, but for the russian reader it was made by translators, mr. nausėda, the new, old president of lithuania, kisses the folded one. in
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the funeral there is a ukrainian flag in a triangle, this is news for lithuanian mothers that such a flag will knock on our homes. russia must immediately and unconditionally withdraw all its forces and military equipment. he kisses biden's hand and shows that they are ready to do absolutely anything. he has two daughters, they both no longer live in lithuania. the baltic countries are primarily under attack. our last and decisive battle. we are talking about a new horror story and scarecrow. ukraine is losing, russia is entering the baltic states, this is a direct conflict between russia and nato. information preparation of the company to increase military european budget. preparations for a second front in the baltic states are in full swing, and lithuania is ready for aggressive action against russia. here is such a colorless, with children in the west, the ideal performer. gitanas nausėda, president of the republic of lithuania, member of the cpsu since 1988. dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on
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the first, take a look, thank you, and what should this funk do, kiss the first one who goes through this door, water. on the second of march, emperor nicholas ii abdicated the throne, power passed to the provisional government, the monarchy, father, go ahead, i ask you, then he leaves in half an hour, if we... don’t make it now,
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we’re finished, and what do you tell me to do, live, life is always better, but i love alexandra vasilyevich, she should be next to us, let us now see the future, as if through a dark glass, but faith, hope, love remain with us, and love is the greatest of them, admiral, on friday on the first, tell me, if we talk about the symbols of russian culture today abroad, yes speak brands, you just recently talked about this, that the list of such brands today is quite limited, if you take a casual foreign reader or viewer or listener. then this list will consist of
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the bolshoi theater, the mariinsky theater, the tretovka theater, the hermitage, the pushkin museum and a number of outstanding russian performing artists. but this list is quite conservative, if we talk about such commercial tours, and about the establishment of the soviet union outside the soviet union, then well , you’re probably right, although maybe not to the end, well, until the year thirty-seven, 1937 years, soviet theaters traveled abroad, and these were theaters that were supposed to demonstrate that the bolsheviks were non-hostile...
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why then was it so popular all these ballet rus everything connected with the moscow art theater tours, after all, bring in the new world, this it was, and not only, excuse me, diagelev brings, these russian seasons, when he begins, the very active formation of a new political life begins, the entente is taking shape, france is getting very close to '.
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again, the names were brilliant, stropovich, vishnevskaya, i don’t say atlantov, milashkina, and so on and so forth. marinsky's ballet of grapes is there, there is one more thing, the fact is that this all the time, so to speak, bothered and worries me, there is conservatism of the public, yeah, well, well, for example, just now the art theater tour in japan was a success , yeah, but mkhat, a clear abbreviation, gergiev, a clear name, they loved temerkanov. they want to see those they know again, and for them, they know that this hello person, this will be the pleasure that they once received and want to get it again, it’s very
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difficult to promote contemporary art, because that i have always said that we must show modern russia, maybe this is important, modern russia is expressed in modern art, i will tell you more, even names, new names of the performer. in trade for non-verbal art is very good, but not drama, yes, after all, the modern understanding of life is born in the dramatic theater to a greater extent, again, what we want to show, you know, this is also a very important matter, because we, after all, are russia today positions itself as a country of traditional values, conservative in many ways, but at the same time actively developing contemporary art, the fact is that contemporary art in russia is about...
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but it is important to show new art, therefore, in this sense, cinema is completely understandable that all russian film festivals abroad are a reflection of today’s russian reality, yes, people want modern art, but they like to be surprised by their friends, the fact is that we have, for example, conductors who devote a lot of time to modern musical art, the same yuri abramovich bashme.
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including, market mechanisms can work there, we really need to start with making it clear that tours are not only at the invitation of one minister of culture, the marinsky theater goes there for two performance or five or there is a new opera theater, and this is what promoters appear who take you to 10 concerts, to 15.
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today this really needs to be worked out in china, because in china there are big corporations, a lot of money, our companies have interests work in china there and so on, so we need to develop a strategy for cultural cooperation where the market would work, so i recently met with the deputy director of the international center for cultural exchanges of the ministry of culture. of the people's republic of china, and we we were just talking to him about the fact that
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30 chinese young producers and curators would come to us who want to get acquainted with russian opportunities in the field of museum exchanges, gallery exchanges, theater exchanges, and so on. in china there are now very decent audiences, i recently looked at the prices there at the peking opera, yes, no, no. not not not in the genre of peking opera, but the building of the peking opera, this is normal european, once upon a time european prices, the fact is that, again, today we need to look for some correct approaches, but you understand, today there is no market in one of the new states, not in one of the new states, not in a single country that was formed after the collapse of the soviet union,
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there is no, there is no, there is no opportunity to come and tour. for money for a long time there, it won’t work, you need sponsors and you need the state, but if you still start from scratch, yes, pushkin, gogol, glinko, who also has an anniversary this year, start right from the stove, this is exactly the path we took with europe and america many, many years ago, well, you do you understand what? well, in a language that is quite well known even in china and in the same, not to mention the countries of the post-soviet space, we must first start, but the question is that until we understand how
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this works on market conditions, it will be very difficult for us. there seem to be no problems with the russian repertoire, but there are serious problems with how to organize our tours, right? well , i understand correctly, mikhailfevich, that you agree that after all the market, well, in particular in china, and participation in the formation of the market, that’s agents, promoters, management, take
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museum exchanges, there are only people there, in other words, there are few platforms for the emergence of private museums of contemporary art, of which there are many in china , by the way, in china there are many private museums of contemporary art, and there it is just emerging, there is a bad situation with venues for ballet performances, despite the fact that indians seem to love russian ballet, but in reality, so to speak, finding a ballet on linoleum is not the best a simple task, as it turns out, a completely different tradition, a different approach, what other platforms are there in asia, these are the countries, what platforms, china, japan, japan, korea, there is latin america, there is africa, it is very different, now, for example, there,
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the founder and artistic director of the moscow musical theater, in addition to the fact that you license some works, in less of them from what is on your poster, you create your own musical, you create a russian musical, tell me, this is how it seems to you, given the current moment... yes, you feel that already a russian musical, a russian-language musical, born in russia, it has been in those 12 or already 13 years of your theater, it seems to be developing and it has become as if part of the theatrical landscape, we should not play western for one simple reason, it is no coincidence that in the last 10-15-20 years operas there began to be sung in their native language. in the original language, in the original language, you want faust by gounod, that means in french, you want verdi, that means in italian, music is very closely related to
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in a word, the music determines the intonation of the singing, and the nature of the performance, the whole physiology, well, i won’t explain this, i basically decided for myself that we would make a russian musical, we staged a russian musical, it was staged even before us. but for me, uh-huh, this is a business, and i’m not in business, this is a completely different story, for me this is an opportunity to create
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a russian musical and get pleasure from it, when you’re from the idea of a line that hasn’t even been written yet, something is spinning in there in your head, you think it would be good to try like this, like this, like that, like that, and suddenly something happens, we put only one well-known name, this is the circus princess, and then we changed it radically with the permission of the copyright holder then, it was kalman’s daughter, ivonka, a wonderful, completely woman, we then they did it with the canadian theater, with the canadian circus, we did it all together, rewrote everything, but the main thing is that the action of the original takes place in the stanislavsky circus, in general in st. petersburg, here it all happens in france and is written completely differently intriguing, but this is the only name that is known.
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museum, it’s the same thing, but you know what, i start to get a little mad when people come, and different people come, but since i still work in the foreign ministry, different ambassadors come there and so on, which one is the main one - as it were the evaluation criterion is, well, straight broadway, and i tell them, it has nothing to do with it, it’s not a broadway at all, it’s not broadway at all, it’s not at all, but there’s only one criterion, we’re looking at it, because again, moscow, st. petersburg are not... connected with commercial art, we succeed well, with high art, like it or not, they come to moscow to go to the bolshoi theater, to moscow they come to go to
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the trityakov gallery, to the new opera, to the stanislavskoyovich danchenko theater, to the pushkin museum, to the kremlin, of course, to the circus , there is no such need, we are going to moscow to get to the moscow theater musical, maybe someday it will be like this... it will be, it will be like this, i hope that when we build a building in the theater they will say, well, we are there, this is a must start to a new opera, then that means to the moscow theater musical, but if speaking so seriously economically, look at new york, where broadway is, this is such a theatrical heart, despite the fact that there is a theatrical heart in broadway, broadway, and in new york, well, before covid. these figures were about 46 million tourists, of which, as they say in vodesse, you will laugh,
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about forty were domestic tourism. and people coming from iowa or from milwaukee to new york know that they have to go to broadway, a minority know that they have to go to the metro, there to the museum, to the metro opera, but everyone knows that they have to go to broadway and watch some fashionable musical, but here they know that they need to go to the big theater, and this logic is just a little different, although i can’t complain, you know, here... we are in may, we discussed this with maxim nikolin, we shared first and second place, they were second in may in terms of attendance, we were the best in moscow, which is generally incredible, but we showed the circus princess, people always go to see the circus princess, but that’s not what i mean, i just to say that, in principle, it’s a russian musical, well, i’ll repeat it again, russia is a country in this i mean, capable of choosing any genres,
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now i’ll tell you something else, yes, have you ever heard anything lately that someone wrote a new operetta, no, no, everyone writes, everyone already writes musicals, that’s also very unique, i haven’t even heard that an opera was written, yes, no, well , they still write operas, yes, from time to time, but no one has written a new operetta, besides, go and tell me, moscow cheryomushki, which are so good staged on a chamber stage, on a chamber stage, and in a large theater, what is this? this is apereta, you say, well, shastakovichal apereta, yes, on the score it is written, apereta, yes, well, how does it differ from the structure of the musical, this is a matter of such an agreement, let’s say, mikhailovich, thank you very much for this conversation for coming, thank you very much, thank you, i am very grateful to you for this meeting, our guest was the special representative
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of the president of the russian federation for... international cultural cooperation, artistic director of the moscow musical theater mikhail efimovich shvitkoy. you can see all episodes of the theater podcast watch on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. there is a lot in our history. contradictory personalities, characters, but if i were making a rating, for this reason, i would probably put pyotr chaodaev in first place, this man loved russia very much, and at the same time scolded it mercilessly, with open eyes, well, for these open eyes of him, in fact, they called him crazy, and he declared
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he was not, he was in some ways similar to the decembrists, in some ways he was very independent. nobleman, studied at moscow state university, attended lectures on philosophy together with his friend, the famous decembrist yakushkin, and griboyedov. by the way, there is a version that the prototype, chadsky in grief otum, was copied directly from chadayev, is indeed similar in some ways. in 812, he participated just like most of the decembrist leaders, and he not only participated, but actively participated, he took part in the battle of borodino, near maloyaroslavl, in fact , chadayev took part in all the most important battles and eventually reached paris with the russian army , received orders there for everything these battles in the patriotic war.
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dedicated a whole series of very famous ones to him lines, well, right back in the alexander era , basically no, well, he continued and further, so to speak, this friendship lasted . well-known, say, lines that are dedicated specifically to chiodaev, pushkin’s, christomatic, comrade, believe, she will set, the star of captivating happiness, russia will rise from the foundation on the block of autocracy, they will write our names, this is just one of the dedications, so to speak, of chiodaev, actually a message to chadaev, and here, speaking about resignation, there is a mysterious story about the resignation, which was discussed, the resignation of chiodayeva, it was discussed then in society it is very strong. chadef was, despite his youth, he was 23 years old at that moment, he was very famous in society, well, a bright figure, seryozh, as for age, we forget about the historical context, he became a student at moscow state university at the age of 14,
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yes, well, first for the listeners, yes, then for the students, yes, yes, so 23 years was a lot at that time, in general then people matured much faster than now, this is not bad and not good, it’s just a statement of fact. a lot of copies have been broken among researchers, among those among contemporaries, there were rumors regarding the cause of his resignation, one of the rumors was that he allegedly cared so much about his toilets that he was therefore late, and he was sent there in connection with the news of the uprising of the semyonovsky regiment, and he went to alexander, who at this time he was outside the russian border as a courier who was supposed to report the uprising of the semenovsky regiment. in which, in which his friends the decembrists did not take part, but the future decembrists, but who were actually accused of this, they were later were sent to different troops, although this uprising was connected with a very simple thing, arakcheevets was appointed commander of the regiment, so ardent, schwartz, colonel schwartz, who
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brought the regiment with his nagging, his corporal punishment to the uprising with almost torture torture punishments, and it must be said that the semenovsky regiment is a guards regiment in which... in principle , corporal punishment, which was then actively present in the russian army, was usually not used; they served there, including veterans of the war of the twelfth year and foreign campaigns, who , of course, being ordinary soldiers, were not accustomed to such an attitude towards themselves. so, yuri mikhailovich lotman, speaking about the reasons for his resignation, throwing aside all this gossip, but there was one more gossip that needs to be mentioned that he allegedly denounced his comrades, yes, he accused them of the uprising, alexander i to say, with i treated this denunciation with contempt; it was absolutely gossipy.
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selfish, yes, was really noticed, then he instantly distanced himself from the royal trust, but there was a different story: alexander did not tolerate people who argued with him, and chiodaev tried act as a critic, and accordingly, here his career inevitably had to end, and there was an element of humiliation in this sense, because when chiadaev was dismissed, he was sent to...
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so that his compatriots, so to speak, would not fell in love, so he was a student of european philosophy, to a large extent a philosopher, a mystic, he also argued with westerners, he argued more or less correctly, and as for the slavophiles, or more precisely, so to speak, the emerging slavophilia, because it was just emerging then , and in many ways he contributed to it, that is , he gave birth to the antipodes, so to speak, like this - this is the current, he spoke very sharply about
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to the forward movement of the human mind, that’s all, what we got from this movement, we distorted, if the hordes of varurs who shook the world had not passed through the country we occupied before the invasion of the west, we would hardly have given our heads to world history when the great man decided to civilize us, well, speech is natural peter, and in order to get the desire for enlightenment, he threw at us... the cry of civilization, we raised a cry, but did not touch enlightenment, we have something in our blood that rejects any real progress, well, that is, this ... it’s still a delusional idea that russia and progress are incompatible, in fact, one phrase can sum it all up, this sharp prick or thrown pebble, so to speak, generated a lot of water, and gave birth to a whole wave, but such a slap in the face, and of course it
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was a very loud slap in the face, in general our compatriots have never received this before. and the most difficult thing, probably, was that if chiodaev had written only about the nicholas era, criticized it, well, probably many would have understood this, the meaning is so deep in this, in what i just quoted, in this fragment , he is of course broader, he is, he writes, this is a criticism of the past, present, and indeed the future, if russia is not capable.
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never since people began to read and write in russia has any literary or scientific event produced such a huge influence. for about a month there was hardly a house in the whole of moscow in which they did not talk about the chaodayev story. even complete ignoramuses, barons, officials who drowned in embezzlement, bribery, half-crazed saints, young and old lovers of the fatherland.
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